Iran…Terrorism Returns Home
Asharq Alawsat / Tariq Alhomayed
20-Oct-2009 (15 comments)

 

The Iranian regime raised its voice in condemnation of terrorism and cast accusations against the West following the suicide bombing that targeted Revolutionary Guard leaders and others in the Sistan Baluchestan province, which is near Iran’s border with Pakistan. We could say here that terrorism has returned home, i.e. to Iran. There is also another lesson [to be learnt] from this operation.

Whilst the Iranians tried to use extremist groups in our region to realize the Islamic Revolution’s goals, whether they are Al Qaeda or other similar groups in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and Saudi Arabia, Iran was a stopover on the way to joining “Al Qaeda” for some members who surrendered themselves recently in Riyadh, such as Fawwaz al Otaibi. In fact some of those who cut through Iran to join Al Qaeda in Pakistan or Afghanistan admitted that people wearing security uniform facilitated their journey through Iran!

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Shah Ghollam

Ex

by Shah Ghollam on

Stick to what I say and don't bring into discussion others that I do know no control as managers of this site. But I am glad somone has already tried to educate you before apparently w/o success. I am however trying to tell you the same as others may have been implying and that is, if you are on a public forum you will get engaged for the words you put down. No one here enjoys the childish immunity you are asking. Either that or simply shut-up if you don't have the stomach to take it. That message is as clear to you as it possibly can be.

 

Now you can call me terrorist sympathizer as much as you want while you subscribe for all kinds of terrorism when it fits your game including state terrorism per your own definition. You see, your problem here may have been that you don't stick to a certain measuring stick all along like a good debator does. That is probably you got yourself into trouble and were kicked out of here and the Arab forums. You claim you have been there and done that but you seem not have learned an iota!

So, bottom line is that wheather you think I or anyone else has anything to say per your judgement, you will hear me and them regardless of your preference.

Like I said, you can simply shut-up if you don't have the stomach!

 

 


ex programmer craig

Shah Gollum

by ex programmer craig on

A little education for you: this may technically be a public forum, but it is run very much at the whim of private individuals. And the censorship here is worse than I've seen it anywhere else on the internet, both in the degree of bias that is used and in its heavy-handedness. So don't tell me who I am or who I am not supposed to debate with here. The last time I really got into it with somebody who supported terrorism as much as you do I got my account deleted, after all my comments were deleted. Considering you don't have anything to say that I haven't heard 100 times before, it's really not worth the effort or the aggravation. But hang in there! I'm sure some n00b will show up for you to square off with. Or you could do like Q does and at least pretend you aren't an extremist. That can be interesting too, sometimes. But foaming-at-the-mouth true believer? Been there. Done that.


Shah Ghollam

Ex

by Shah Ghollam on

 

Regardless what you think, you are on a public forum. As a little education, in such forums you cannot pick an choose when you speak your words. You will irate some people and will get their opinions too wwhather you like it or not.

On the other hand, if you do not have a stomach to bear others views, either you should move on yet to another forum or try to send personal messages to the very selective audience you wish to communicate with. Otherwise, wellcome to the hellish world of virtual space.  

Now as for this:

If you think you are going to defeat my arguments with nonsense and propaganda then knock yourself out. I'm sure there are people on this website who will agree with you.

You bet I will make sure you will hear my nonsense or greatsense opinion whenever I think you deserve one. So far you seem to drop your words and runaway. In a public forum you are asking for too much of a private room. Sorry, no go!!!! you will be the one to knock yourself out! I promise you see me at every post. That is why I am here for, to enlighten and enagge! What are you here for??????

 


Farhad Kashani

Shapesh jaan, dear craig,

by Farhad Kashani on

Shapesh jaan, dear craig,

I support you guys all the way.

 


Farhad Kashani

First I gotta say you know

by Farhad Kashani on

First I gotta say you know you hit the nerve when you speak out about the real issue and when you expose IRIs main destructive role and then seeing all these few remaining IRI supporters in the world (with the exception of IRANdokht) feeling outraged. I sure feel proud! Good job Farhad Kashani.

 IRANdokht,

I’m not even gonna try to respond to you, cause any response to your posting that is in contrary to your views, is met by deactivation of account! So aziz, you’re always right and I’m always wrong. There you go. It’s just interesting that how come so many pro IRI garbage propaganda is posted here and you don’t speak out, but on mine, you do. Interesting.

Ostaad,

Your pathetic and twisted rationale is mind boggling. You have proved that you don’t have a clue what “terrorism” is, what “Islamic Fundamentalism” is, who spreads a fundamentalist way of life openly and in day light, who has stated goal of “exporting its revolutionary Islamic ideas”, who has stated clearly that its main job as government is to make sure “Islam takes over the world”. You have no idea how Saudi society or government, or the Iranian government or society, works.

Your comical claim that it is “money that spreads terrorism” is really sad and illustrates how dumb your argument is.

Abarmard,

Where do I start!

You say “The US Middle East policies that has and continues to support the extremists in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan will backfire against the US interest in the long run”. So I guess Americans killing Taliban by the day, supporting Pakistani civil society and government, sacrificing themselves for Iraqi democracy and fighting Shite and Sunni extremists, whom are inspirationally and financially supported by the IRI, is “Supporting extremism by the U.S”. Do you have any idea how dumb you sound?

Also, one main point, lot of IRI supporters claim that Egypt and S Arabia are promoting “extremism” and IRI doesn’t (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), ok, be a man and lets compare them together, agreed?

    


ex programmer craig

Shah Gollum

by ex programmer craig on

I haven't seen you around here much in the past but I've read enough of your comments lately to know I don't place a high value on your opinions. Or on your judgments. If you think you are going to defeat my arguments with nonsense and propaganda then knock yourself out. I'm sure there are people on this website who will agree with you. But they already agreed with you anyway, didn't they? What's the point of you and I pretending we are having some sort of discussion? Is there a snowball's chance in hell that either of us is ever going to come around to the other's way of thinking? You are a lost cause in my opinion, and I have no doubt you feel the same way about me. How's about we both try to make our points without trying to put on a show of engaging each other? There are people on this website I like to discuss with - that's why I'm here, after all - but you aren't one of them.


Shah Ghollam

Ex,

by Shah Ghollam on

I think God putting all that oil underneath Muslim's must have been some sort of test of faith... one that Muslims seem to be failing badly. Unless somebody is going to try to claim that God approves of mass murder, rape, torture, hostage taking, hijacking and etc. Which, I seriously kinda doubt. 

Your are putting your foot in your moth again. You keep creating double standards theorugh your biased "definitions' post after post.

I don't know what you are trying get at by making a analogy between the Muslims and the oil. But let's play along with your game (though I sense racism here).

When it gets to the formula of religion+population+oil Vs. mass murder, rape, torture, hostage taking and hijacking do your simple math and realize that it is the USA that has been failing the "test of faith". I terms of oil wealth US is no small player. In terms of wealth total, the US is the richest country on earth and yet, the US has brought much of the rape, torture, war crimes and mass murder (hijacking was not needed) US dwarfs the world let alone the muslim countries. How fast some racists forget about Vietnam, Panama, Nicaragua(remember the US terrorism training pamphlets),Iraq and finally Afghanestan. Should I remind you of the by proxy US crimes in these regards too. In fact, the US is the sole nation that has killed and wounded the largest number of civilians in the world post WWII and is proud of it not to mention that it is still in progress!

So tell me, does the Christian god approve of such Christian crimes? I did not incluse the "other "Christian" countries to bundle them together as you did with the Muslims, but you get the picture how far more christians may have failed their test of god.......muslims would be pale in relative terms, No?

 


ex programmer craig

Abarmard

by ex programmer craig on

Are you seriously trying to claim that Iran's support for a mass murdering, hostage taking, plane hijacking dissident assassinanting embassy bombing child killing group like Hezbollah is a GOOD thing?

Bavafa, US doesn't buy Iranian oil. But I do agree with you... if the ME wasn't floating on an ocean of oil the governments there would behave a hell of a lot more responsibly. A near-limitless supply of unearned income seems to make governments feel like they can do whatever the hell they want. And when you combine the extortionist mentality of a terrorist with a natural resource that the rest of the world can't do without, that's a disaster. I think God putting all that oil underneath Muslim's must have been some sort of test of faith... one that Muslims seem to be failing badly. Unless somebody is going to try to claim that God approves of mass murder, rape, torture, hostage taking, hijacking and etc. Which, I seriously kinda doubt. 


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by Shepesh on

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Bavafa

Ex programmer Craig: It is every easy for the West to deny them

by Bavafa on

those $$$, if they really think their money help terrorist.  Lets stop importing petrol, thus denying them the $$$$

Mehrdad


Abarmard

Actually

by Abarmard on

The US Middle East policies that has and continues to support the exterimists in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan will backfire against the US interest in the long run. This is a fact. The small anti Shia group (Jundullah) will at some point change direction and murder "friendly" forces. If the US policy makers were smart, they would support the "opposing" forces in the ME similar to Iran's support to Hezbullah, by creating hospitals, schools, and social Welfare programs instead of guns alone. 

Iran's success story in southern Lebanon, eastern Afghanistan (Herat), and southern Iraq is a proof of what works; while US support of Wahabis in Saudi, Sunni extremists in central Iraq, Pashtoon extremists in Afghanistan and historical support to Taleban is the other side of the equation that does not work for the US and West interest in the long run. 

Similarly, US has supported the regimes that in the long run are or became liability for the US interest around the region, including Iraq and currently Eqypt and Saudi.

We shall wait and see the ultimate result of supporting and training dangerous groups such as Jundollah in Baluchestan region.


IRANdokht

unbelievable

by IRANdokht on

one thing I thought when I read this: har ashghali ro keh nabayad post kard!

I mean seriously!  Did you see what this article is, where it's coming from?  The articles that you refer to on this page show what you read, what you like and what you agree with. Do you really want to be associated with this type of nonsense? They are connecting their own terrorist group with Iran!!! baba digeh boghz o kineh ham haddi dareh! We shouldn't sacrifice the truth and our integrity.

IRANdokht


Shah Ghollam

"regurgitating"

by Shah Ghollam on

How well deserving this term is for F.K. indeed! 


ex programmer craig

So...

by ex programmer craig on

The saudi terror family has realized they cannot gain political
influence by spending petro-dollars to spread terrorism in the world.

How long will it take the Islamic Republic to learn that lesson?


Ostaad

Farhad, I sent a response to Tariq Alhomayed, who is...

by Ostaad on

a regular Iran-bashing gossip columnist for Asharq Alawsat, which a British tabloid partly owned by a saudi "prince" - precisely the kind of person whose crap you'd love to regurgitate on daily basis.

In a nutshell, I informed him the it is an open secret that the saudi tribal chiefs who call themselves the royal family and the whole establishment around them are the proven source of Al Qaida terrorism around the world. The canard that a Wahabbi terrorist "confesses" that he was helped by the Iranian in uniform is just a pathetic effort by the saudi tribal chiefs to cover up the fact that they have failed to benefit from sectarian terror. The saudi terror family has realized they cannot gain political influence by spending petro-dollars to spread terrorism in the world.

You have proven to be in a real pathetic state of mind to resort to regurgitating the crap these gossip columnist put out for the saudis.

Farhad, is there ANY limit how low you can stoop? I don't think so.