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I next remembered that Francesco Cossiga, the president of Italy from 1985-1992, revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, a false flag operation under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. The bombings were blamed on communists and were used to discredit communist parties in elections.
An Italian parliamentary investigation unearthed the fact that the attacks were overseen by the CIA. Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated in sworn testimony that the attacks targeted innocent civilians, including women and children, in order "to force the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."
What a coincidence. That is exactly what 9/11 succeeded in accomplishing in the U.S.
Among the well-meaning and the gullible in the West, the supposition still exists that government represents the public interest. Political parties keep this myth alive by fighting over which party best represents the public’s interest. In truth, government represents private interests, those of the office holders themselves and those of the lobby groups that finance their political campaigns. The public is in the dark as to the real agendas.
The U.S. and its puppet state allies were led to war in the Middle East and Afghanistan entirely on the basis of lies and deception. Iraqi weapons of mass destruction did not exist and were known by the U.S. and British governments not to exist. Forged documents, such as t... >>>
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Cost of progress....
by StoneHenge on Fri Jan 15, 2010 01:05 AM PSTI guess it cost u ur entire life to progress into a decent human being, u talk like an animal! You say u arent a psychiatrist yet u talk like one..... well... and uneducated one that is! I like challenges so bring it on! Please define what part of me is brainwashed? I dont understand, I think u are confusing me with someone else? Please since you know who I support then name them so I can reply to ur accusations. If im a brainwashed moron then u must be the most arrogant idiot alive to date! Nightmares? no not really, I think I might have seen ur aunty on one of my dreams but I wouldn't call it a nightmare!
ISLAM BEFORE EVERYTHING!!!! NOT NOW!! YESTERDAY!!
However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition. I believe that the conditions in the Palestinian territories are alway capable of explosion because the same circumstances are there.
asteroidx...
by StoneHenge on Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:56 AM PSTI haven't been rude, nor am I toxic as u put it.... I am a man who disagrees with your idea of democracy and freedom.... u disagree with mine... this is typical opposition, instead of running away from the argument be a man and face me. It doesn't have 2 be a rude discussions like some other idiots.... it could be a gentlemen's discussion. What bothers you with my mentality? is it the pic? And anyway... who is the person or reference to define what is better democracy? The west sees democracy as they see it better than anyones (although I dont believe it is), They believe we have to follow their way of Democracy, each nation in the world has its OWN democracy, you cannot apply the same democracy of Britain into Russia for example, the same way u cannot apply that certain democracy to middle east, it just wont work! See my point is who is this person to better asses what is and what isnt democracy? Iran is a great nation, now a great Islamic nation, You are basically asking more rights because a tiny majority in Iran believes that they are the democratic side more than the other, now I dont see anything wrong with the opposition here, wanting more democracy... but what I do see wrong is applying it the American way.... havent u learned from the days of the Shah to what is American democracy? Dont you know who ur enemy is, or is it the Iranian people?
See I can have a normal discussion with anyone who ISN'T RUDE! this is my mentality, I like to treat people the way they treat me, please dont judge a book by its cover.
Than you,
Kind regards,
Stone!
P.S. u dont have 2 be in Iran to only want democracy... i dont like to make u feel less of an Iranian than u already are, it is not my place, nor is it my business.
However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition. I believe that the conditions in the Palestinian territories are alway capable of explosion because the same circumstances are there.
hmmmm -o kooft
by Cost-of-Progress on Thu Jan 14, 2010 08:05 AM PSTI don't need to be a psychiatrist to spot a psycopath. Yeah you can say what you want, but be prepared to be challenged.
I don't think you're a spy, too dumb to be one - You're just a brainwashed moron.
BTW, hows supporting those who murder your own people in cold blood working for you?
Any nightmares?
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Look Stonehenge
by AsteroidX on Thu Jan 14, 2010 08:54 AM PST"only a coward runs from a discussion! "
No, I just do not see the point of arguining with someone with your mentality. Your statement about Iran having a democracy is ludicrous and shows your own ignorance of the concept. There is no free speech or freedom of concience. And then you reply with rude answers and gibberish. So please be a gentleman and leave it there.
"Or do u require to change the whole world just because u see it fit?"
Well I do care about Iran, as my father was iranian and i have family and friends there. So yes, I will support those who want a better Iran. It is a silly argument to say that people who do not live in Iran should not care about inhumanities there. In a civilised world things do not work like that.
I do not want to have abusive discussions with toxic people, and I can see you for what you are. So lets agree to disagree on our concept of democracy. kind regards.
hmmm...
by StoneHenge on Thu Jan 14, 2010 07:28 AM PSTYou must be a physiatrist.... lol you just assumed alot of things about me when you actually know nothing! this just oes to show how much bull$hit u consume everyday in order for u to talk like this. Is this the excuses u give ur patients? U might need a bit of Phsycology treatment. So you think im a spy or brit agent... looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.... sorry had to laugh 4 that was a first for me looool! FYI I went to UK for holidays with my wifes family... i also saw a football match in the new emirates stadium... Your accusations are as the same accusation u make of the Iranian goverment! You tlk $hit yet u are mr. know it all! to be honest with u I tried to take ur reply seriously but even my kid brother will laugh at ur stupid and childish comments! If you take it Irans freedom is offensive to u then that again goes back to u... this is a forum and I can say what pleases me... if you dont like it then close ur eyes and pretend u didnt see it, otherwise say something nice.
However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition. I believe that the conditions in the Palestinian territories are alway capable of explosion because the same circumstances are there.
Stop immitating and start innovating!
by StoneHenge on Thu Jan 14, 2010 07:15 AM PSTYou are right on one thing we will never see eye to eye, but only a coward runs from a discussion! Your concept of democracy is null! You think they have democracy! If this is the democracy u need then u are free to go to the states to practice it... isnt that freedom enough 4 u? Or do u require to change the whole world just because u see it fit?
However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition. I believe that the conditions in the Palestinian territories are alway capable of explosion because the same circumstances are there.
I gotta say something Stonehenge
by Cost-of-Progress on Thu Jan 14, 2010 05:47 AM PSTAbout this brilliant remark you made:
" The west clouds ur judgement, all this freedom u speak of is worthless.... no country today is more free than Iran is.... I recently been to the UK.... they defy freedom! If UK and America is freedom and if freedom is what ur asking for (that is the american way) then u are asking ur self to become a slave! well atleast u have the choice of staying and leaving so go to America and be free there!.... everybody to his own taste! "
On second thoughts, what does one say to this type of mentality? Is it a childhood thing? Is it some kind of a complex that makes you both blind and stupid, or is it some kind of an Islamic drug? I'd guess it'd be some Golab laced with the sweat that was extracted from old socks left over in one of many many harams and emamzadehs in our beautifual, but occupied motherland.
Were you in UK to get new assignments from your Brit masters?
To say that Iran is a free country today is the most preposterous and offensive thing one can say.
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I suppose who is delusional
by AsteroidX on Thu Jan 14, 2010 05:31 AM PSTI suppose who is delusional is personal opinion on what your realities are. And I am glad that I do not live in your reality. FYI I do not just "go along" with the West or Iran, but on what I believe are concept of Democracy, free speech and freedom of concience. For me the West provides that in abundance and Iran is a dictatorship. Your comment is hilarious.
Anyway, no need to continue this discussion as we will never see eye to eye. Kind regards.
Delutional person u are!
by StoneHenge on Thu Jan 14, 2010 05:02 AM PSTThe protests have NOTHING to do with the West. The West is just supporting the cry for freedom of Iranian people who want democracy and freedom.
You just contradicted what u just said.... read ur sentence again and out loud and ull realise you just admitted the west is responsible for it in a way! The west clouds ur judgement, all this freedom u speak of is worthless.... no country today is more free than Iran is.... I recently been to the UK.... they defy freedom! If UK and America is freedom and if freedom is what ur asking for (that is the american way) then u are asking ur self to become a slave! well atleast u have the choice of staying and leaving so go to America and be free there!.... everybody to his own taste!
However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition. I believe that the conditions in the Palestinian territories are alway capable of explosion because the same circumstances are there.
Replies to you both
by AsteroidX on Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:05 PM PSTIranmilitary
What I meant was that in Iran they censor news, forbid free journalism and free speech. You know that, journalists get arrested and papers criticising the regime or those in power are closed. I was not talking about press freedom in US or Iranian.com. People in Iran want freedom of expression, which they are denied. They have been trying to send footage and news abroad for the world to see. That was my point. In the West free speech allows us to read differing views, do our own research and make up our own mind, not to be CONTROLLED like the people in Iran are with censorship. To only read what they are allowed to read.
Maiser
You are a typical Iranian who sees Iran’s “arch enemies” responsible for all ills in Iran. The protests have NOTHING to do with the West. The West is just supporting the cry for freedom of Iranian people who want democracy and freedom. IRI has used this “arch enemies” tactic to control the masses, to divert blame always to external enemies. People are now seeing through this. Actually Islamic republic is NOT the best solution for Iran, people want an Iranian Republic. But to even admit that would get them arrested, charged with a ridiculous “crime” and imprisoned. The Show Trials are an injustice to humanity and a tactic to intimidate people, but people do not fear any more.
Your nationalism is clouding your judgment and you see iranians that do not support IRI as traitors and name-call them as Zionists. It is the behaviour of children. Let me tell you that I for one, do not dislike you but like you the same as any other person on this site. You are Iranians but you need to see the need for positive change and stop just following your Leader if he has failed the people and Iran. Israel and US have NOTHING to do with it, stop trying to find scapegoats for Iran's real problems.
Ordinary Iranians want more than free'er press
by maiser on Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:40 AM PSTThey are also supporting the establishment, and are not too eager in internal unstability and being defeated by arch foes. You cant deny the fact that most Iranians dont want changes at the cost of everything else. Besides, most Iranians are clever enough to understand that replacing the Islamic republic with something else doesnt solve anything. They know its more complicated than that.
So you think
by IranMilitaryForum.net on Wed Jan 13, 2010 09:53 AM PSTAt least in the West news is not censored and journalists not
intimidated and arrested. There is free press. That is what democracy
is about, free speech.
In a world where like never before the access to news is in abundant "censoring" plays a very minute or a non existant role. In other words, it is no longer a factor.
In the US we are not suffering from censorship, at least not the obvious way. However, traits such as stealing the mainstream news and saturation of the news by special interest has been making cesorship as a policy quite innocent.
The idea for censorship is redirect or focus public mind. If this can be done by news saturation on selective subjects then there is no need for censorship, is there?
The things that ordinary Iranians are now
fighting for, and you should be supporting them in that.
It is hard to believe Iranians are suffering from access to news as illustrated on daily basis here at Iranian.com with a massive amount of news coming out of Iran (so much for IRI censorship ). In fact there so much news on Iran that I have never seen anything like in my entire life in the US on anything.
What is left out out of Iranian news reports these days is when Mullah X is visiting the washroom. everything else is reported.
At least in the West news is
by AsteroidX on Wed Jan 13, 2010 06:29 AM PSTAt least in the West news is not censored and journalists not intimidated and arrested. There is free press. That is what democracy is about, free speech. The things that ordinary Iranians are now fighting for, and you should be supporting them in that.