Indications of fraud in the June 12 Iranian presidential election, together with large-scale street demonstrations, have led to claims that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad did not actually win the election, and that the majority of Iranians perceive their government as illegitimate and favor regime change.
An analysis of multiple polls of the Iranian public from three different sources finds little evidence to support such conclusions.
The analysis conducted by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland (PIPA), was based on:
• a series of 10 recently-released polls conducted by the University of Tehran; eight conducted in the month before the June 12 election and two conducted in the month after the election, based on telephone interviews conducted within Iran
• a poll by GlobeScan conducted shortly after the election, based on telephone interviews conducted within Iran
• a poll by WorldPublicOpinion.org (managed by PIPA) conducted August 27--September 10, based on telephone interviews made by calling into Iran
The study sought to address the widely-discussed hypotheses that Ahmadinejad did not win the June 12 election and that the Iranian people perceive their government as illegitimate. It also sought to explore the assumption that the opposition represents a movement favoring a substantially different posture toward the United States. The analysis of the data found little evidence to support any of t... >>>
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Adele
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Mon Feb 15, 2010 06:43 AM PSTPolls in a military dictatorship are not representative. There is a rule in law where testimony under duress is not considered legitimate. Why? Because when someone puts a gun to peoples head they will say anything. Sure there are a few who stand their ground but the vast majority will lie. Now keep posting this BS poll.
No Iranian believes it.
"Adele": you're a little slow on the uptake, no?
by AMIR1973 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 06:30 AM PSTSince my last post went over your head, let me be explicit: Iran is run by a religious dictatorship. Iranians don't have freedom of speech, press or assembly (this website is blocked in Iran). The Iranian regime has executed about 20,000 of its own people since coming to power 30 years ago. Iranians are afraid to openly criticize the government for fear of punishment. Go and ask Iranians, if you know any, whether their relatives in Iran would openly criticize the government in a telephone conversation. They are afraid that their phone calls are being listened to. Therefore, as has been pointed out numerous times on this website (BTW, this is at least the fourth time that this article about these polls are being posted on Iranian.com), such polls are totally and entirely unreliable as an accurate gauge of Iranians' true political sentiments. You seem to have mistaken a religious dictatorship, i.e. Iran, for a democratic government.
As for the bit about "exiles", it has become pro forma for supporters of the Iranian regime to denounce all opposition to the regime as stemming from "exiles". This is false. Moreover, the views of "exiles" are deemed to be "out-of-touch" with Iranians. There is more than a hint of hypocrisy about this, since the current regime (the one being defended by these online supporters of the IRI) itself came to power to a significant extent through the efforts of "exiles" (including, none other than the Leader Khomeini himself).
I'm curious to know: are you Iranian? Do you speak Persian? What, if any, are your connections to Iran? I look forward to your response. Thank you.
Adele
by AsteroidX on Mon Feb 15, 2010 02:45 AM PSTThere have been many polls done, all saying different things.
the so-called "opposition" refuse to read anything that disagrees with their own opinions and if one suggests anything otherwise, they are personally attacked and abused.
Actually we do read them. But our priorities are different to IRI supporters. Funny how you complain about being attacked/ abused when you stay silent on inhumanities in Iran and harper on endlessly about Israel/ Palestine. If you want respect then you have to show fairness and humanity for your own countrymen.
poll analysis
by adele on Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:05 PM PSTThe two people who responded to my "recommendation" to read the poll analysis prove my point that the so-called "opposition" refuse to read anything that disagrees with their own opinions and if one suggests anything otherwise, they are personally attacked and abused. Imagine if a day comes (god forbid) they take the helm of government, how tolerant they would be of "oppositon".
Get over it fellows.
your post
by adele on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:57 PM PSTAmir, I assume that your comment is a sarcasm. Right? The first and the second paragraphs contradict eachother. Which one is your opinion?Very confusing.
you claim that 100% of women support the "hijab". Sounds like a very scientific resrarch you did (saarcasm intended).
Adele: I conducted my own poll while in Iran
by AMIR1973 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 04:40 PM PSTIn 2003, I visited Iran for 25 days; in 2004, I visited for 40 days, and I traveled to a number of different cities. While there, I confirmed 100% support on the part of Iranian women for mandatory "hejab" I did not see a single women (not even one!!!) who didn't wear some sort of "hejab-e Eslami" outside of the home (in case you don't speak Persian, and it is very possible that you don't, "hejab-e Eslami" means Islamic dress code). What else could this 100% rate of compliance reflect other than the complete approval and satisfaction of Iranians with the ruling regime and its laws? None of my relatives will say anything even remotely critical about the regime over the telephone either. Do you know what this means: that the Iranian theocracy (aka the Democratic People's Islamic Republic of Iran) is not only the most popular regime in the world, it is also the most popular regime in history. Other popular regimes include N Korea, Syria, and Egypt (when was the last time you heard about large anti-government demonstrations taking place in those countries)? Do you know why it doesn't happen? Because they are so spectacularly popular.
BTW, I love the use of the word "exile" on the part of IRI's cyber groupies. There was this turbaned dude who led the 1979 Revolution: he lived for 15 years in exile in Iraq (Iran's main enemy) and then moved to Brigitte Bardot's neighborhood in France. Many of the key revolutionaries were "exiles too. I would be happy to supply their names to you upon demand, since I doubt you know the least thing about Iran, Iranians, their language or history. Hope to hear from you, "adele".
Yes, vildemose, we are to believe that night is day
by Fair on Sun Feb 14, 2010 02:44 PM PSTaccording to the proponents of these reports.
If a government has so much mainstream support and is considered legitimate, why must it militarize its capital for a national celebration, forbid all those not part of the official celebration from being in the street, imprison more reporters and shut down more newspapers than anyone in the world including China, forbid any foreign reporter from leaving Azadi square or quoting anyone other than the "president", beat imprison torture rape and execute young defenseless citizens without trial?
I mean, what are they afraid of?
People who do this are afraid of two things:
1)the truth
2)their own shadow
And that says more than any poll conducted by phone callers calling from abroad citizens in one of the most repressive regimes on the planet. Don't take my word for it- consult with Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Reporters without Borders. (unless you consider them other zionist propaganda agencies)
-Fair
How many times do we have
by vildemose on Sun Feb 14, 2010 02:20 PM PSTHow many times do we have to read this bogus report??? We are Iranians not the Western lefties...You need to post this on the *useful idiots'* site.
This poll has been debunked at least twice on this very site two weeks ago or so... Check out the archives. First time it was posted by our resident IRGC, Major Pirouz...
Adele and friends
by Shepesh on Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:09 AM PSTThe kind of facts your ilk are not interested in is the Human Rights of Iranians. And how dare you put the opinion of people commenting due to their being "exiles" or anything else? Personal agendas? Serving the interests of their adopted countries instead of Iran? You are so out of order. We are Iranians and have families in Iran. Some of us still work there. Your judgements are rediculous and in fact you are the one flauting IRI propaganda in trying to discredit the opinion of others. Before you slander posters and this website again remember that at least it gives you the free speech to slander. Which other IRI-sponsored websites would not.
Why not?
by Mamane-Omid on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:46 AM PSTDear Adeleh,
Just because its written down doesn't make it a fact. Ten out of 12 of these surveys, , were produced by Tehran University, and only 1 of 12 was conducted from outside of Iran. Only evidence the author offers for the authenticity of data is similarity of the responses. I am not sure what the authors expect, when the expected outcome of a study is predetermined, then rigging the underlying data is a lot easier than stuffing the ballot boxes. Did an internatonal unbiased party contact a sample of the respondents to obtain confirmation
of their existence and authenticity of their replies?
So, as you can see, we do read and understand. And for you, continue believing everything on its face value at your own peril.
Ankas keh nadanad, va nadanad keh nadanad
dar jahle' morkkab abdol dahr bemanad
I don't know if you even understand Farsi, the above was for the ones who do.
So, next time you express yourself on this board, or anywhere else, please be polite or be quite. As you have heard:
"Its better to be quite and thought of as stupid, than
to open your moth and remove any doubts".
Mamane-Omid
Poll analysis of Iranian Presidential election
by adele on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:13 AM PSTI would recommend the report here but the so-called "oppositon" does not read. They are not interested in facts. This bunch of Iranian exiles have their own personal agendas and serve the interests of their adopted countries instead of Iran.
Unfortunately, Iranian.com is full of this type of propaganda.