DAUGHTER

my previous post

forget about the research part, I got carried away! that would not be yours or any writer's job.

I loved the stories in your pictures

Dear JJ,
It takes courage to let everyone see you so clearly.
Your daughter is beautiful and I hope she feels fortunate to have you as her father.
You know, don't you feel that the topic of discussion sounds like a fantastic book (hint to whoever you are)! Just imagine having a collection of stories and/or autobiographies of parents focusing on how their political convictions transformed their relationships with their children. And then, other books following that one containing research on psych profiles of all those kids of revolution and how our acts of sublimation affected them in their revolutionary efforts. What do you think?

Makes me sick

You see the Chador? you see the Beard? These were the signs of those who brought Khomeini to power, who arrested and executed the intellectuals, who threw the country into midevil times for decades to come.
Makes me sick to see these pictures. If there is a God, these traitors of humanity will burn in Hell for eternity.

Your wife

It would be great to see a recent picture of your wife or ex-wife? Does she still package herself in Islamic cocoon or similar to you she has shed off the Islamic cult by removing the islamic yoke as you did by shaving your beard?!

Post a recent picture.

Bacheh Enghelaab

Dear Jahanshah
Bacheh Enghelab was very interesting! Your family members look really stanch supporters of Ayatolah. I hope I am not offending you, nothing personal but you guys should take some responsibility for what is happening in Iran. I am not questioning 1979’s uprising just the Muslim fundamentalist system that killed many and taken the country hostage.

Rashidian.........I went on the web link

 I want to thank you for the web link. I have signed up and also signed the petition. Thankfully it was all in English. :o) My only regret is that I do not understand Persian script or even Finglish at the moment. :o)

I have also joined an organization called codepink. They also do not want another war in the Middle East. Check them out.

//www.codepink4peace.org

Natalia Nadia

     دم خروس

 دم خروس را چه میکنی؟

 در حالیکه اقای جاوید ظاهرا از همکاری خودشان در گذشته
 با جمهوری اسلامی اظهار ندامت میکند, هم اکنون سایت ایشان کماکان
ایستگاه تبلیغاتی حامیان حفظ نظام قرون وسطائی ج.ا در ایران است.
 برخی از شیفتگان ج. ا. مانند اردشیر عمانی، ثریا اولریش و..., در این سایت فعال هستند. نگاهی به مواضع انان کوشش آنها را بخوبی نمایان میسازد که این لابیهای رژیم جمهوری اسلامی هر فرصتی را غنیمت تا
 تنها برای دفاع از مشروعیت  ج.ا مزدوری کنند. کمیته .ttp://stopwaroniran.org/ در امریکا و سازمان دیگری که به لابیهای برای جمهوری اسلامی در آمریکا میپردازد عبارت است از:
CASMII - Campaign Against Santions and Military Intervention in Iran  اینان مدافعان بی قید شرط  ادمه حکومت جهل و جنایت در ایران هستند.
  اینان با هر نظری که خواهان محکوم کردن جنایات رژیم
 و دفاع ازحقوق دمکراتیک مردم و ازادیهای اولیه اجتماعی و سیاسی باشد شدیدا مخالف و به بهانه دفاع ازایران در واقع از رژیم ضد ایران حاکم دفاع
 میکنند.

 بخش دیگری از طرفداران رژیم که در طیف طرفدار قدرت بنیادگران رژیم هستند شامل لومپنای ایترنتی هستند  کهبا اسامی جعلی مخالفان ج.ا را 
 فحاشی میکنند. حضور انان افترا به هر دگر اندیش است.

 گروه دیگردر طیفی که اخیرا خیلی رشد کرده
 "مسلمانان غیر وابسته به بنیادگران" هستند که بی پروا برای بقا  این رژیم
 جهل و جنایت وفلسفه سیاسی ان,اسلام, تبلیغ میکنند.
سایت عمد تا درختیار تبلیغات این سه گروه طرفدار رژیم است.

 اقای جاوید بهتر است رابطه فعلی خودشان با حامیان حفظ رژیم رامطرح
 کنند و توضیح دهید چرا ستون سایت شما محل تبلیغات ج.است.
 وگر نه ندامت شما از گذشته دور ماست مالی کردن شرایط الان وهمکاری 
سایت با این سه گروه نامبرده است وبه نوعی مغلطه از سیاست سایت. 
ما همه هم نسلان اقای جاوید این داستان را میدانیم:
 دزدی خروسی را دزدید، در حال فرار او را گرفتند, او قسم"حضرت عباس"
 میخورد که خروس را ندزدیه است
شخصی به جیب او اشاره کرد و پرسید"قسم حضرت عباس را قبول کنیم
 یا دم خروس را!"
 

"After 2500+ years of

"After 2500+ years of monarchy in Iran, the whole focus was to overthrow shah". Really? The Shahs have always been in power, Bush Jr. became the president of the United States (with his impeccable credentials for such a position), Wolfowitz just received another good job in government (see newsweek), another shah. Don't worry, as long as there is greed and power and people to be ripped off, there will always be Shahs everywhere in the world. By the way many shahs in Iran are considered Iranian heros (among Iranians), but since they didn't have cell phones & fax machines and weren't driving cars way back then, they should be criticised per today's standards (according to some). Don't forget, there was democracy in Greece (their slaves were democracised on a daily basis, while performing forced labor for their democratic owners). Don't worry, be happy.

...just happy birthday to

...just happy birthday to M.
This baby of 24 years ago had nothing to do with what was happening in her country

Slavery / To Who said young iranians..

Rozbeh wrote: who said that young iranian are angry at their parents for the revolution.

 JJ's cousin said it after speaking to young people in Iran. You don't think he was lying, do you? After all, you have friends but other people have other friends. Young people on this thread have expressed anger at their parents' generation...

Roozbeh wrote: at least we are not slaves anymore, we had not freedom before and we have no freedom now but we are not slaves for yankees

So before you were slaves from without and now you are slaves from within. You are proud of kicking out the unjust masters from without while others are humiliated by the barbarities of the unjust masters from within. Can we agree that slavery is slavery and in this terrible situation, what one chooses to feel proud of is really just a question of personal taste? Then you could try to understand both each other's pride and humiliation. It's a good place to begin.

I know, Roozbeh, you're trying to be earnest and fair, but your statement about not being slaves and your denial of many people's anger contain the kernel of much ongoing discord.

And those of you who are angry and humiliated, can you possibly concede, can you possibly imagine, that Roozbeh has a right to feel proud of at least something in this whole mess? You Shahis, for example, having lived and voted for three decades in the West, participating in this open forum, you wouldn't want to go back to the autocratic system you had before...would you? So then Roozbeh DOES have something...just something...to be proud of....autocracy has been rejected. The question is now how to get rid of the current autocrats, whom Roozbeh is very unhappy with, and...move on...

Koroush,  you don't want any more tortures in Evin prison, do you? Not by IRI and not by SAVAK.  I don't believe you do.  You don't even want to hang JJ, and I was willing to help you....  So you see, you all have much common ground.

Robin

PS Scammer:  I'm gonna get a big FAT paycheck for this one!

who said that young iranian

who said that young iranian are angry at their parents for the revolution. i am born after the revolution and non of my friend who are aducated is sorry for the revolution. the only sad thing is that iranian people did not get those thing they wanted.
but at least we are not slaves anymore, we had not freedom before and we have no freedom now but we are not slaves for yankees

What I remember

As for JJ,

Thank god she took it after her mom, she is beautiful :)

As for the rest:

I was 18 years old when the revolution happened. Iran was a very young country that was starving for social justice. After 2500+ years of monarchy in Iran, the whole focus was to overthrow shah. When that happened in 1979,

there were many political groups that popped out of the ground like mushrooms. Each group was hot from the fire of the revolution and had no social or economical plans for Iran. Our youngsters of Iran were loading up on ideologies and books that previously weren’t available (Thanks to shah). While they were shaping their path and mind, it was obvious at the time that the open exchange of ideas would be a wet dream. Due to the lack of experience, our newly developed brains were in contrast with each other. There were plenty on theory but no practical application.

It kind of reminds me of this poem:

دو نفر دزد زری دزدیدند -

سر تقسیم به هم جنگیدند

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  اندو بودند چو گرم زد و خورد

   سومی امد و زر را زد و برد

 While they were arguing Marx is better or Shariati, fundamentalism used their well organized akhunds to take over the country. This really was the story of the revolution. Even right now after 25 years we do not have a unified coalition. We have several groups who just want to overthrow the present regime and continue their argument in Iran. Then we have pro monarch group that wants every one in north of Tehran to evacuate the premises for them to move the party from LA to Tajreesh. I steel after 25 years don’t hear what will they do after they overthrow the present regime? As long as there is no plan B, you have to excuse people of Iran for living their lives. It probably is miserable but as they say, I rather live with enemy that I know than friend that I don’t.  One man’s opinion.

Javid I'll be waiting for

Javid I'll be waiting for you to explain your actions and thought process during those years.
It'll really enlighten me as to: "Why"!

REPLY : Why WE(?) did what ( really?) WE did?

the ones who did it know why they did it. the ines who did it can not give any answer. They all lay in beheshte zahra. the ones who are still alive live in IRI. they know even today why they did it. they all will do it again. The youth which "suffers" is only spoiled by western Propaganda mashine. thanks God they count only a negligible number. As in farsi the iranians - i mean the ones who live in IRI - use to say: CHOOBE TAR RA CHENANCHE KHAHI PICH, NASHAVAD KHOSHK JOZ BE ATASH RAST. The latters have the choice. They can any time give up the DRUG&ALCOHOLFREE life in IRI ang go to abroad as slaves, as the destiny of Assylumsurchers regulary in the western country is. How can one claim WE founded the IRI? has any body a answer to this quiz? And the ones who have been in IRI and now turned back "home": have these unsatisfied Youth new that they do not pay a cent for thier education? Thier Parents either? Greeting

The TROJAN horse and The Soft lies 　

MESG: It is home kookin good

you KNOW it aint home cooked BUT YOUR STARVIG FOR SOME...SO GO AHEAD MUNCH ON what JJ serves...

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Where are you from?
I am from Cary, North Carolina. Where_Is_Iranian_COM
No, I mean where you come from.
I come from Iran BUT I have lived most of my life in US.
Are they civilized where you come from?
You see we are not X and not Y and definitely
not Z .
We are just plane NOT!
Will you ever go back? NO, Not ever.

NC.ppt ”Integrates our planning efforts into a cohesive” “game plan”

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RE: Baba Joon Just Happy ...

Darius, I think the only reason you like JJ so much is because of the last part of his first name. I can't see no other reason for that. After all, JJ was one of those who helped with getting rid of Shah!

Please guys ,I'm

Please guys ,I'm naive...
(pehaps totally out of the loop, even stupid...)
,

Tell me how we can avert an oncoming war if it has (as some think)all been pre-planned, signed, sealed and about to be delivered.
Could Iranians have actualy gotten themselves a democracy had they behaved differently in 78-79?
Or would it have just been a small hindrance
for the axis of US + UK=(SUK) had the people not poured into the streets with their support , and these Powers would have gotten away with murder, as they did, anyway?
What can "WE" do "NOW"?
Can we do something??

Tarsam ke ashk.

JJ jan:

Doosteh aziz Taghdim be shoma.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVwK7aY4-Tg

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZxjxGkgAjQ&feature...

Be omideh didar dar concert. Tavalodeh mahdiyeh ham mobarak.

shad bashio salamat.

GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I SHOULDN'T SEEK JUSTICE

The Hezboallahis killed two members of family after a 10 minute trial and I am mad as hell.
Some comments say to JJ "..... there is no need to worry, or shit happens, or we should just expalin and that is is enough, or there is no need to apologise........".
In that case give me one god damn reason why I shouldn't seek justice and/or rough justice on anyone who was or is a hezbollahi?????
I can always later on say ".......shit happens, I can explain, there is no need for me to apologise......."

Please let us not forget that...

The revolution was a consequence of many years of suffering inflicted on the Iranian nation mainly because of the foreign interventions (the US and UK) and the betrayal, corruption, and brutality of their stooge (the Shah). It was an inevitable phenomenon, and no one should be held responsible for it but those who created the circumstances. Unfortunately, the desperate (and long-distressed) people back then didn't realize that they were coming out of a ditch just to fall into another deeper hole. It is not fair to blame the regular people for what happened then and what is happening now.
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I agree with Anonymous8 that this discussion is irrelevant at such a sensitive time. What we Iranians need more than anything else at this time is unity. When the likelihood of Iran being invaded or bombed to ashes is becoming an inevitable reality any day now, what is the use of this discussion which would further divide and weaken us Iranians? Isn't it more relevant for us Iranians outside the country to put our thoughts and energy together to prevent another catastrophe rather than looking at old pictures and grieve over old days?

Baba Joon Just Happy Birthday will do ... ;0)

Cheers to your Beautiful Daughter Jahanshah.

Mobarak bad that she has such a brilliant Father and for all the joy she has brought to you and your loved ones.

She can be proud of you and of herself.

VIVE MAHDYEH and JAHANSHAH !

Excerpts from the "A Century

Excerpts from the "A Century of War":

"In November 1978, President Carter named the Bilderberg group's George Ball, another member of the Trilateral Commission, to head a special White House Iran task force under the National Security Council's Brzezinski. Ball recommended that Washington drop support for the Shah of Iran and support the fundamentalistic Islamic opposition of Ayatollah Khomeini. Robert Bowie from the CIA was one of the lead 'case officers' in the new CIA-led coup against the man their covert actions had placed into power 25 years earlier. Their scheme was based on a detailed study of the phenomenon of Islamic fundamentalism, as presented by British Islamic expert, Dr. Bernard Lewis, then on assignment at Princeton University in the United States.

Lewis's scheme, which was unveiled at the May 1979 Bilderberg meeting in Austria, endorsed the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement behind Khomeini, in order to promote balkanization of the entire Muslim Near East along tribal and religious lines. Lewis argued that the West should encourage autonomous groups such as the Kurds, Armenians, Lebanese Maronites, Ethiopian Copts, Azerbaijani Turks, and so forth. The chaos would spread in what he termed an 'Arc of Crisis,' which would spill over into Muslim regions of the Soviet Union.

The coup against the Shah, like that against Mossadegh in 1953, was run by British and American intelligence, with the bombastic American, Brzezinski, taking public 'credit' for getting rid of the 'corrupt' Shah, while the British characteristically remained safely in the background.

During 1978, negotiations were under way between the Shah's government and British Petroleum for renewal of the 25-year old extraction agreement. By October 1978, the talks had collapsed over a British 'offer' which demanded exclusive rights to Iran's future oil output, while refusing to guarantee purchase of the oil. With their dependence on British-controlled export apparently at an end, Iran appeared on the verge of independence in its oil sales policy for the first time since 1953, with eager prospective buyers in Germany, France, Japan and elsewhere.

In its lead editorial that September, Iran's Kayhan International stated: In retrospect, the 25-year partnership with the [British Petroleum] consortium and the 50-year relationship with British Petroleum which preceded it, have not been satisfactory ones for Iran … Looking to the future, NIOC [National Iranian Oil Company] should plan to handle all operations by itself. London was blackmailing and putting enormous economic pressure on the Shah's regime by refusing to buy Iranian oil production, taking only 3 million or so barrels daily of an agreed minimum of 5 million barrels per day.

This imposed dramatic revenue pressures on Iran, which provided the context in which religious discontent against the Shah could be fanned by trained agitators deployed by British and U.S. intelligence. In addition, strikes among oil workers at this critical juncture crippled Iranian oil production. As Iran's domestic economic troubles grew, American 'security' advisers to the Shah's Savak secret police implemented a policy of ever more brutal repression, in a manner calculated to maximize popular antipathy to the Shah.

At the same time, the Carter administration cynically began protesting abuses of 'human rights' under the Shah. British Petroleum reportedly began to organize capital flight out of Iran, through its strong influence in Iran's financial and banking community. The British Broadcasting Corporation's Persian-language broadcasts, with dozens of Persian-speaking BBC 'correspondents' sent into even the smallest village, drummed up hysteria against the Shah.

The BBC gave Ayatollah Khomeini a full propaganda platform inside Iran during this time. The British government-owned broadcasting organization refused to give the Shah's government an equal chance to reply. Repeated personal appeals from the Shah to the BBC yielded no result. Anglo-American intelligence was committed to toppling the Shah. The Shah fled in January, and by February 1979, Khomeini had been flown into Tehran to proclaim the establishment of his repressive theocratic state to replace the Shah's government. Reflecting on his downfall months later, shortly before his death, the Shah noted from exile, I did not know it then perhaps I did not want to know but it is clear to me now that the Americans wanted me out. Clearly this is what the human rights advocates in the State Department wanted What was I to make of the Administration's sudden decision to call former Under Secretary of State George Ball to the White House as an adviser on Iran? Ball was among those Americans who wanted to abandon me and ultimately my country.[1][1]

With the fall of the Shah and the coming to power of the fanatical Khomeini adherents in Iran, chaos was unleashed. By May 1979, the new Khomeini regime had singled out the country's nuclear power development plans and announced cancellation of the entire program for French and German nuclear reactor construction. Iran's oil exports to the world were suddenly cut off, some 3 million barrels per day. Curiously, Saudi Arabian production in the critical days of January 1979 was also cut by some 2 million barrels per day. To add to the pressures on world oil supply, British Petroleum declared force majeure and cancelled major contracts for oil supply. Prices on the Rotterdam spot market, heavily influenced by BP and Royal Cutch Shell as the largest oil traders, soared in early 1979 as a result.

The second oil shock of the 1970s was fully under way. Indications are that the actual planners of the Iranian Khomeini coup in London and within the senior ranks of the U.S. liberal establishment decided to keep President Carter largely ignorant of the policy and its ultimate objectives. The ensuing energy crisis in the United States was a major factor in bringing about Carter's defeat a year later. There was never a real shortage in the world supply of petroleum. Existing Saudi and Kuwaiti production capacities could at any time have met the 5-6 million barrels per day temporary shortfall, as a U.S. congressional investigation by the General Accounting Office months later confirmed. Unusually low reserve stocks of oil held by the Seven Sisters oil multinationals contributed to creating a devastating world oil price shock, with prices for crude oil soaring from a level of some $14 per barrel in 1978 towards the astronomical heights of $40 per barrel for some grades of crude on the spot market. Long gasoline lines across America contributed to a general sense of panic, and Carter energy secretary and former CIA director, James R. Schlesinger, did not help calm matters when he told Congress and the media in February 1979 that the Iranian oil shortfall was 'prospectively more serious' than the 1973 Arab oil embargo.[2][2]

The Carter administration's Trilateral Commission foreign policy further ensured that any European effort from Germany and France to develop more cooperative trade, economic and diplomatic relations with their Soviet neighbor, under the umbrella of détente and various Soviet-west European energy agreements, was also thrown into disarray. Carter's security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and secretary of state, Cyrus Vance, implemented their 'Arc of Crisis' policy, spreading the instability of the Iranian revolution throughout the perimeter around the Soviet Union. Throughout the Islamic perimeter from Pakistan to Iran, U.S. initiatives created instability or worse." --

William Engdahl, A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order, © 1992, 2004. Pluto Press Ltd. Pages 171-174. [1][1]

In 1978, the Iranian Ettelaat published an article accusing Khomeini of being a British agent. The clerics organized violent demonstrations in response, which led to the flight of the Shah months later. See U.S. Library of Congress Country Studies, Iran. The Coming of the Revolution. December 1987. The role of BBC Persian broadcasts in the ousting of the Shah is detailed in Hossein Shahidi. 'BBC Persian Service 60 years on.' The Iranian. September 24, 2001.

The BBC was so much identified with Khomeini that it won the name 'Ayatollah BBC.' [2][2] Comptroller General of the United States. 'Iranian Oil Cutoff: Reduced Petroleum Supplies and Inadequate U.S. Government Response.' Report to Congress by General Accounting Office. 1979.

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Dear JJ don't worry, it is a

Dear JJ
don't worry, it is a mistake we all did and we do not want to remember it... Oh my God forgive us all... Now we love all people alike and God bless America and Iran. Peace with you all...

The revolution was inevitable

blame yourself, if it makes you feel better, but there was nothing you could do about it.

I don't know what you or anybody else thinks they could've done. Maybe the revolution would've happened a couple of years later, but that's it.

It's extremely SELF-CENTERED for a bunch of well-educated, upper class Iranians who are now living OUTSIDE of Iran to think "they" made it happen. This kind of popular revolution where people were willing to sacrifice their lives day after day for years happened because it had the vast majority of the country behind it. Khomeini spoke to them directly and completely bypassed the "intelligencia". Don't flatter yourselves, you were only incidental.

This revolution was coming for a long time and there was nothing you, BBC, Jimmy Carter or Michele Faulault could do about it. Instead of focusing on the past, why don't you work to make sure there EXISTS an Iran, so that you can have these debates about it in the future.

At this rate, very soon, the only debate will be how many millions of Iranian children are going to be born retarded due to radiation exposure of American bombs. Get off your ass and do something USEFUL.

Islamic Revolution in Iran was

the direct result of "Unintended Consequence" of the '53 coup. The Shah Created such a political oppression that when he left there were no "viable" opposition to replace him except for these Akhoonds.
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Ladies and Gentleman, England and US needed a "Nokar" and they found it in Shah. Mohammad Reza was weak, and did not have the "Khayeh" of his father Reza Shah.
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Don't forget one thing: We, Iranians, screwed up when we betrayed Mossadeq. For those Shahis, remember that Mossadeq believed in Constitutional Monarchy like England. He had no objection for Mammad Reza to stay as Shah. For him to reign not rule.

To Fair Judge: This movement is strong; I assure you

This movement is strong - I assure you. Its speed, energy, power, support, finance, and volume are remarkable.

We are living in the best of time to be part of Iran at onset of leaping to new level of democracy valuing her own Koorushian heritage.

This movement is strong.

JJ, I want to know . . .

Do you remember what you were doing in summer of 1988 when Khomeini ordered the following:

"Those who are in prisons throughout the country and remain committed to their support, are waging war on God and are condemned to execution.... Destroy the enemies of Islam immediately. As regards the cases, use whichever criterion that speeds up the implementation of the [execution] verdict."

I want to hear your thoughts on the 1988 massacare! Did you cover it?

Falcon my apologies....

 My apologies in my haste to write my comment,  I did not separate the paragraph that sounds like I am accusing you of attacking JJ. I meant that paragraph for the other people on the thread that were attacking JJ.

I did go back and tried to clarify my comment but it is blocked and I can not access it. I am truly sorry. I hope that this public  apology will suffice.  I will  be more diligent in posting of my comments. I did not intend to cause you harm.

Natalia Nadia

Jahanshah, thanks for the pictures and...

Will you be able to share with us why and how it came to reversal of your positions and politics?

Was it partially related to personal life issues or was it some of everything (including the mess you saw developing under Khomeini's control gradually)? 

I'm very interested to know how you went that way and how you made your way back?

Sasha

Sasha: where do you see that I attacked JJ. I have a lot of respect for him & his contribution to Iranian society.