DAUGHTER

Oh God, good one, scammer...People, I'm sorry... Koroush

People I'm sorry, this shouldn't be about me, but maybe in a way it should. Scammer accuses me of being a Jewish Hezbolaahi paid by JJ.  It is ridiculous.  Take it as an example. You younger people: DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AS YOUR ELDERS. ALL POLARIZING AND ACCUSING MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY! FIND THE COMMON GROUND! Iran will find her own way, but it all depends on you.

Begin with JJ.  Seek explanations, he's already apologized enough.

Now to you scammer:

You have NO IDEA how ironic that is...what does jj give me? JJ gives me a lot of headaches. I do what I do because I want to do it and stand by him when he's attacked because I believe in the work he's doing. It is true that ideologically I am on the "soft" left, meaning I support mixed economies, but I have stood behind many a Shahi and a Zionist when I felt they were unjustly attacked, because I always place humanity before politics. I am a pacifist and a humanist first and foremost. THe IRI is a theofascist criminal regime. Please read my long post to Dr. Malekanasri, Khomeinist, under Rashidian's last blog if you still think I support the IRI.

If after that there is any doubt in your mind, quite honestly you need to have your head examined.

 Koroush, quite right.  He has to live with himself.  And he doesn't really need anyone to remind him. The news he links you to every day about human rights abuses in Iran reminds him enough.  Let the matter rest there.

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Robin

Hamid and Kouroush Sassanian, please..........

 Please stop it. We are not in high school and you are not teenagers.  We are trying to have an objective and intelligent discussion as best as possible.

Again, I ask you both to please, please, please stop with the attacks and insults to each other.

Thank you,

Natalia Nadia

Kouroush Sassanian, You can do "better" than that

I quoted you Sheikh Saadi, You gave me this garbage :)
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Comeon, if you think you are smart, which I doubt it, let's see something a little more creative.
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But on a serious note, every single one of us have responsibilty towards what happened in Iran. What I don't like, is the "Holier-Than-Thou" attitude that you are exhibiting.
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Please come down from Your High Horse. I am sure you probably have more "skeletons" in your closet than others. People who are "self-righteous" usually have more to hide.

Falcon JJ can .........

 JJ can write two separate ones. One his Explanation of the why he did what he did. Another about what changed his way of thinking. His experiences may be similar to many other Iranians and it would help to clarify the "Why?". However, like Rosie pointed out, you need to listen to the man and not attack him. It is why we never get a descent answer because there is always attacks.

We need to let them speak and listen to what they have to say. Without the accusations and foul language.

Natalia Nadia

None taken!

Shiek Sayeed Hamdollah:

You must have forgotten! Lalee kon, az in pa be on pa bad az ghosl! Bad doushanbe bia perov.

Rosie

Thank you for your words. No noose is needed! It is best he lives with himself!

Know-it-all Kouroush Sassanian

As Sheikh Saadi said: Khare Issa Garash Be Make barand, Cho Baz Gardad Haman Khar Bashad. The more I read your reasoning, the more I realize that the Great Sheikh Saadi is talking about you :):):):)

Sorry, No Offense :):):):):):):):)

What changed your mind?

I think an essay as what changed your mind is more interesting & lesson learning than trying to justify the obvious rebellious acts of the past. I am interested to know if there was a moment of epiphany?

KOROUSH / Judge / JJ

KOROUSH JJ APOLOGIZES EVERY SINGLE DAY OF HIS LIFE BY PROVIDING YOU WITH THIS WEBSITE> HE CAN"T DO ANYMORE THAN THAT!  WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO, HANG HIM? HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THEN?  WOULD THAT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER THAN THE "AKHOONDS".WOULD IT CHANGE HISTORY?  WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GET YOU A NOOSE?

Koroush, let it go...move on...you're killing yourself with  this hate....

Judge, the direction the discussion has to go is exactly where JJ proposed, to EXPLAIN.  He said he 's wporking on it so I assume he's going to publish an explanation soon.  When that happens you all need to focus on the EXPLANATION.  You need to ask specific targeted questions about the politics, the psychology, the interpersonal dynamics, whatever you think you need to know to get an EXPLANATION of why he and those like him did what they did.  Not an apology, an EXPLANATION.

JJ, after you publish your piece, when they ask you, you have to respond to them.

In the meantime JJ asked you all to view the photos.

DON'T YOU THINK SHE'S ONE OF THE MOST ADORABLE LITTLE GIRL sYOU'VE EVER SEEN?!!!!                   :D

 Good luck with this all of you,

Robin

To Hamdollah, AKA Hamid

Steel Rain is coming to a mosque near you! I anticipated a blockbuster.

Hamdollah khan you seem way too sensitive about all this. Calm down, do your namazaeh vahshat, ghosl koon va salavat beferest be ajdadeh arabzat..

JJ has come up with a new

scam to maximize the hit rate on the Iranian.com site. Given the fact that the posts on this site have become stale, repetative, and the same shit only on a different day, JJ is posting his old Hezbollahi pictures to attract more people. Second, he has found this Hezbollahi Jewish woman, Rosie T. to get more attention to the Iranian.com. I know, I know, a Hezbollai Jew is as oxymoronic as as Hezbollahi JJ!?!?!?! But, shit happens in life. What do you imagine, JJ, gives Rosie T.!?! Any thoughts!?

Thank Jahan. You had an

Thank Jahan. You had an amazing background. What a big change! Why did you divorce your wife? What happened to her? Is your daughter married...should be!

I had a different image from you. Wow....

To NN

A child should not see policemen hung from a street lamp. A child should not have to travel with his mother to Ghasr prison to be only told that his father has been slaughtered. A child should not have find out that his brothers were murdered by the local Pasdars after a summary and meaningless trial. A child should not have to fight along his mother to get the body of his father back for burial. A child should not have to come home to find his home being looted by Muslims. A child should not have to find out that his mother has been slaughtered for seeking justice for her family. A child should not have to witness the slaughter of his neighbor in the "joyee ab" by his house at the hands of muslims. A child should not be beaten by pasdars for trying to retrieve an album of his family's photographs. A child should not have to lose everything dear to him.

But, when a child does go through everything mentioned this child grows up to, at a minimum, to hold every hizbollahee, every supporter of the revolution, every abitter of the IRI accountable.

JJ and the ones like him must seek forgiveness, they must plead for forgiveness, they must show remorse, anything less is a show.

His daughter, his family lived, prospered while many did not. Where are the pictures of our loved ones that are no longer here because of the IRI?

In order for any truth and reconliation type program here to be meaningful, JJ and ones like him must be completely honest about their sins.

There is one issue at hand that may prevent any reconcilation to be effective and the that is the IRI they created stills lives.

kouroush Sassanian

Please don't lecture others on how to live. You are the biggest "hypocrite" of all. We have all read many of your comments in other articles.
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Ta Mard Sokhan Nagofte Bashad
Eybo honarash Nhofte Bashad
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Just keep The Trap Shut :) :)

This topic is long overdue.......

This topic is long overdue and it must be brought out in the open for a civilised discussion.
There needs to be a purpose to all of this talk and it has to lead us somewhere otherwise it will be some cheap talk.
I was a very small child during the revolution but I still saw the violence and the destruction, that the revolution brought to our cities. I saw things that a child would probably not even see in a bad movie.
It is unfortunate that in Iran's hour of need, so many of its intellectuals and the educated class could not come up with the goods !!! And yes, no matter what anyone says, they are ( and as indeed every Iranian who was active in bringing about the revolution is) partly to blame for what has happened and is still happening in Iran today. Everyone is responsible for his or her own actions and this includes the Pahlavis, Khomeini, the mullas, Jebehe Melli, Mojaheds, ............and the man in the street. Those who helped the revolution failed to appreciate the consequnces of their actions even though the Islamists' agenda was clear to see and even some people like Bakhtiar and his followers had tried to tell people what an Islamic Iran would be like and he tried to remove Shah's power and stop the revolution. So it is not as if nobody saw the future and that nobody told people about it !!!
Somebody wrote here that "....sh*t happens" . This time sh*t didn't just happen. A lot of us made it happen!!!
History will judge the Iranians of this generation very harshly.
But what now ???
I think those who took part in the revolution and now believe that they were wrong, should ask themselves what they have learnt from it all ??? They owe it to us, and more importantly they owe it to themselves. If we cannot recognise our mistakes and learn from them, we will not be able to rectify the situation and we can actually make the same mistake again!! This could be the starting point.
There needs to be an end to violence and a beginning for dialogue.
I say this as the son of a man who had nothing to do with politics of any sort, and yet he lost his life to the revolutionaries in a violent manner. That scar hasn't healed after 28 years and I don't think it ever will, and it is certainly not something one can ever forget.
It is easy for me to be bitter and unforgiving and resort to violence and seek revenge. But I am prepared to forgive, for the sake of an end to bitterness and to break the cycle of violence. And I truely believe that it is what my father would have wanted.
But for this and for the reconciliation to happen, I need those responsible to own up, accept their part, express sorrow and tell me what they have learnt from it. This will help avoid a repeat, not only by themselves as quite a few of them will probably not be active any more, but also by a lot people watching and listening and who themslves may be in a position of authority. Everyone can learn from this process. And we must not forget that this can also help develop a culture of respect for human rights in Iran which it is now so very much lacking.
But until they do so, I and so many people who have lost loved ones, cannot possibly be expected to forgive and join a dialogue and because you have created such a large number of us, you need us onboard.
I believe that I speak for a lot of people in my situation and that I can persuade many more to take to heart this way of thinking.

Is this site a manifestation of your guilt?

You will have to live with your choices for the rest of your life. Your choice of working for the IRI contributed to the deaths of thousands of Iranians. You could have fought against the IRI regime you did not. You and the like of your cousin decided to work for the IRI.

Many will not be able to see the pictures of their mothers, sisters, daughters, aunts, uncles, brothers, fathers like you can. Many could not even be a father or a mother, because of people that keep the well-oiled death machince of the IRI running.

Why don't you post pictures of the many thousands that perished at the hands of the IRI. Why don't seek pictures of the many the IRI has killed and continues to kill.

The first step to start the healing process is for you to ask to be forgiven for what you and many like you did against the good people of Iran.

Mahdiyeh?

... why an arab name while they are so many beautiful Persian names for our sons and daughters ... it's a pity.

revolution

i like to ask any one who is older than 35 years , what has changed in Iran Really? with apology to all my country man , khar hamon khareh , palonesh avaz shodeh.

Child of Persia

Child of revolution is the most ridiculous concept one can coin and then use it as if it has a reality of its own (Sui Generis)...Iran has over three to four thousands of solid culture with too many historical political and cultural and economic and military boom and bust.

The 1979 revolultion was simply a drop in a big swimming pool in the grand scheme of things and therefore it is foolish to blow its impact on the Iranian society out of proportion. All the changes that occurred over the past 28 years will be only few wrinkles on the face of Iranian society that will be ironed out smooth and straight with the hot and steamed iron of time as if it has never happened in people's historical memory.

Now let me see how much gas and oil reserve there is in Iran and how much it is going to be sold in the next coming ten years foir without it the true revolution for the first time is going to happen in the Iranian history with ever last memory

Yes, it is time..........

 Yes, it is time to heal and let go of the hate that consumes many Iranians. They have to first forgive themselves for any part they may have had in bringing about the current regime in Iran. Once, they forgive themselves then they can forgive the rest. Forgiving others allows them to let go of the hate.

When I say forgive that does not mean to forget what happened to millions of Iranians. It means in order to find a solution for Iran, there must be clear and objective thinking.

Blaming or making accusations and conspiracy theories will not help bring about the necessary healing. It will only add to the hate.

It will take all Iranians regardless of age, gender, religion, political views, and yes, sexual orientation to find the most logical solution for Iran and all Iranians.

kouroush Sassanian JJ knows what he needs to do. He is doing it. We all know whatever is done will not bring the Iranians that are now dead back. However, when are you going to let go of the pain? I think that the best that can be done in the memory of all those Iranians that have now passed away is to make things better for Iran and Iranians now. It will give some meaning to their sacrifice.

JJ  You selected a beautiful name for your daughter and no one has a right to belittle it. She never took part in what happened so long. She is Iran's future just like many others of her generation, they will bring the necessary change to Iran.

Natalia Nadia

The revolution..

I was 12 when the revolution happened... so I was more of a by-stander and observer than a participant... You can not really blame any one person or group of people... allegations of foreign intervention and General Huyser and all of that aside, it seemed like an inevitable reality. We can spend the eternity asking what if this and what if that, but we are here and it is now .We need to heal and move on to cure what ails us as a community, as a culture and as a country with more than enough talent but insufficient understanding of ourselves to work together effectively. I remember every event and every feeling of the revolution days. How many time in a lifetime would you witness such an event? The raah-peymaayees of Ashoura/Taasoo'aa, 22 bahman events, 26 dey, 17 shahrivar, and on on. Everyone, I would say, well over 95% of the people, rich and poor, young and old where in on it. Everyone had their own reason, some religious, some truly concerned about the future, some fed-up with the thefts and the "hezaar faameel" routine, some smelled opportunity, and etc and etc... We are all to blame and yet no one is solely responsible for this. We caused it by the relative (for the times) excesses of the Shah, we did it by pouring into the streets and we did it by voting for the Islamic Republic and now we have to fix it. Of course it is easy for me to sit on my couch and prescribe Rx for a nation but we have to do it somehow.

Dear Lost Iranian in France..../ PS Shirin

Thank you for being concerned about my sexual and familial well-veing. However, there are some problems with your suggested match:

1)  I have assiduously argued that Haji is not ready for a relationship to those who have tried to hook him up and suggest instead that he focus his attentions on publishing in Playboy, and I stand steadfastly by my convistions.

2) Haji wants children and I am perimenopausal.

3) Kadivar won't finance the thing. This is just my intuition.

4)  JJ's not hooking up anything beetween me and anybody.  He knows I already have my hands full with anoher impossible,irrational  Persian Male. strictly platonic but true nonetheless.  And anyway, he wouldn't wish me on his worst enemy. You'll just have to trust me on that one.

5) And last but not least, I am married to the Church and to Our Lord Jesus.

Hail Mary Full of Grace.

Rosie  PS Shirin:  NO NOT BY THE WAY THANK YOU FOR THE PHOTOS!  THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT! THE PHOTOS!  THE PHOTOS!  THE ADORABLE LITTLE GIRL!  LIFE!  THE PHOTOS!

I want to add one thing

I am not just blaming but we have to heal and forgive to be able to move on.We will move on because Mona Mahmodnejad died believing men and women are equal,and nobody heard her,then.But today brave women of Iran our beloved land are working toward the same thing(one million signature campain)and they are being heard all over the world.The time has come for tolerance and acceptance in Iran and the new generation with their open mind will do it.
They will not repeat the same mistake.
I applaude Mr Javid for his honesty.

14u thanks for stepping aside.........

 Thanks for stepping aside so that other Iraians can work together to find a solution  to the ills of Iran. It is so generous of you. :o)

The current regime was going to come into power with or without the support of Iranians.

Natalia Nadia

Another lost iranian in France

 Rosie and Haji? What are you thinking? Besides Rosie is very capable of finding her own man. The woman is highly intelligent and extremely eloquent in her writing.

You are most definitely lost. :o)

Natalia Nadia

BTW JJ thanks for sharing the photos

I know what I'm going to write has nothing to do with the topic of "reconciliation" between generations, but I was a bacheh enghelabi too and these photo bring back old memories
from my childhood. 

Its amazing how identical our family album is to your photos: esp the horrible revolutionary fashion style and the nerdy 1980s glasses that my dad also wore. lol

anyways thanks for sharing!

Revolution? What revolution?

As one of the generation supposedly responsible, at least I will say that there never was a revolution. Only a 3-day abandonment of a cancer-stricken Shah by the US, and the simple changing of the names from immortal to revolutionary guard. As has been our less than gloried tradition, we have been more or less cursed to be ruled by one or another regime, often feigning holy authority, and our best interests at heart. Almost always brutally murdering and suppressing us in the process. And so it was in 1979. Revolution? Please! The closest this was to a revolution was the have-nots walking in and without the slightest fight, merely taking away from the haves as they left Iran for the sunny beaches of France. The rest of the country simply watched it unfold like a boring Morad Barghi sitcom on TV. Except this was much funnier. Blame? Prayer? Healing? Just words, and no replacement for Pride, Responsibility, and Brotherhood. Call me when everyone decides to be real Iranians who deserve to have a real country. Until then, I'll be over here, trying to con the rest of the world into thinking that we actually have a culture that is worth saving.

Considering all the weirdos

Considering all the weirdos who will launch about a thousand comments on this page in the next few days, I think this was very brave from you to put such a personal topic online JJ.

I agree to what as been said by BacheJavan, however, the so called ''students'' do have their share of responsability. Specially the ones who were sent to the U.S with huge scholarships, got their diplomas and then eventually went to give foshe e khar madar to the Shah at NY Cornell Hospital. Those idiots are now somewhere in Orange County or North Vancouver, enjoying the most extreme western/capitalistic lifesyle you can think of. Now don't get me wrong, I ain't no Hajiagha = ) , good for them, hal konin, but this annoys me to be honnest.

By the way, I wonder if we could hook up Haji and Rosie, in a blind date organized (and paid) by Darius Kadivar.

= )

Our Generation

All generations have something for which to blame the previous generation. We did it so well to our parents, and we can't blame our children when they do it to us.

Our generation was lost and confused. Some from our generation turned super religious, some turned red hot communists, some others turned conservative, and many others tried to make sense of it, making the best of it. None of us had mentors, teachers, or leaders. Nobody was trained to know what to do.

Our generation was captured and imprisoned, summarily dismissed from jobs, tortured and executed. Our generation was promised the heaven and walked the minefields. Our generation delved into the new era, its women bereft of many rights, and its men bereft of their dignity. Our generation could still remember what it had seen before, and was defiant in accepting what it was seeing now, and fearful of what it will see soon.

Our generation paid with its blood, with its hopes, with its dignity, with its rights, and with its life. Yes, we are probably to blame. We weren't like our parents and we didn't conform. We had seen more than our children could ever hope to see. We are the generation that loved Iran and gave up so much for it. Those are people from our generation sleeping in those nameless graves in Iran. Those are people from our generation sleeping in the Martyrs Graveyards across Iran. Those are people from our generation, displaced and exiled to faraway places of the world, seeing Iran again just a huge dream in their hearts. Those are people from our generation driving those mini-cabs in Tehran and telling anyone who would listen, that we are actually engineers who were dismissed from work, never again able to be employed, because of our political convictions. Those are people from our generation working two and three jobs to pay for our children's tutors, music lessons, clothes, and university tuitions. Those are people from our generation still remembering the names and faces and smiles and looks of friends and family who died in the War. Ironically, those are people from our generation who continue to manage what is left of Iranian industry and trade, the last of a generation of experienced technocrats who were taught well in Iranian universities.

Yes, perhaps our generation is to blame for a lot, and we always receive such blame from our children a lot more easily than from anyone else. But as we prepare to face their blame, just like all the others we have faced before it, we also have to look fearfully to our children's future after us, where they can blame their by then deceased parents all they want, but they would still have to be the ones to pick up the pieces, build their country again, raise their children, and maintain hope. The new generation of Iran must take responsibility for all of that when our generation has finally ran out of time. Are they ready for that challenge once the blame game ends?

I agree with Bachejavan

I was born in 1984. I think its stupid to blame. Its not only the youth of 1979 who should be held accountable... if we were really to blame. We should then blame many figures who preceeded the revolution and many who were responsible for events in the 20th century.

Instead of blaming, perhaps we should look ahead and see what we can do to take Iran out of this situation. Germany and Japan were politically,
socially, and economically devastated after the WWII, yet they managed to pull themselves together and emerge as strong independant countries again.

True prosecution, truth-telling, reconciliation, reparations, institutional
reform, memorials and official apologies are all important, but we also need to look ahead in the future and lead the nation forward. We tend to love to live in the past and mourn over "how great things were in the past". I think its time to move on.