Montenegro Welcomes Back It's Crown Prince and Royal Family


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Montenegro Welcomes Back It's Crown Prince and Royal Family
by Darius Kadivar
09-Aug-2011
 

Prince Nikola was officially welcomed by Montenegro's President and Prime Minister in the former royal capital of Cetinje. Is it possible that Europe will have its 11th monarchy soon? All the more that the National Flag of the Republic of Montenegro has maintained it’s Royal Coat of Arms (see Here) based on the royal standard of King Nikola I which was adopted on 12 July 2004 by the Montenegrin legislature.

Prince Nikola Greeted by Montenegro's President and Prime Minister :

Prince Nikola was officially welcomed by Montenegro's President and Prime Minister in the former royal capital of Cetinje.

Montenegro Travel Guide:

Montenegro's Crown Prince Nikola II Petrovic says he is "entirely satisfied" with a law rehabilitating his family, which was dethroned in 1918. According to the Associated Press the Legislation approved earlier this month recognizes the family's historic role and its male lineas descendants. The law says the Petrovics were dethroned when Montenegro was "violently annexed" by Serbia in 1918. Is it possible that Europe will have its 11th monarchy soon? Or is it all homage paying to a country’s former royal family?

Prince Nikola was officially welcomed by Montenegro's President and Prime Minister in the former royal capital of Cetinje. He was given use of the first floor of the former royal palace, and bestowed with former honours and rights and named special representative for the government of Montenegro.

The government has also promised to pay 4.3 million euro ($6.13 million) into a family fund over the next seven years, and pay Crown Prince Nikola a monthly salary that equals that of the president. (See More Complete Report Below)

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ROYAL REHABILITATION A FIRST STEP

TOWARDS A ROYAL RESTORATION ?

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Coronation of King Nicholas Ist of Montenegro (Augutst 28th, 1910):

Royal Anthem of Montenegro :

Associated Press : On 22 July 2011. Montenegro’s Prime Minister Igor Luksic hosted a reception in honour of the country’s Royal Family, the House of Petrovic Njegos, in Cetinje. The event celebrated the adoption of the Royal Family Law, ( see Related RFE/RL News) which regulates the status of the descendants of the House of Petrovic.

“I believe that the adoption of the law not only rectifies a great historic injustice, but provides for moral and historic rehabilitation of your family,” PM Luksic told Prince Nikola Petrovic during a meeting earlier today.

Prince Nikola welcomed the adoption of the law, as he said, not only for the sake of the past, but because of the future as well, as it enables the Royal Family to participate in European processes in Montenegro.

“I am happy with everything that is happening today and I am looking forward to what is to come,” said the Prince.

Is it possible that Europe will have its 11th monarchy soon? Or is it all homage paying to a country’s former royal family?

That is what many royal watchers are wondering as they watch Crown Prince Nikola II Petrovic accept a law late last month rehabilitating his family after they were deposed in 1918.

The Royal House Law allows the House of Petrovic-Njegos to participate in events in Montenegro – which was formerly part of Yugoslavia – and for Nikola to receive a salary of $6.13 million, which is similar to that of a European president. The government is financing €4.3 million euros for the upkeeping of the family and their apartment in Podgorica and a family house in Cetinje.

“I am happy with everything that is happening today and I am looking forward to what is to come,” said the Prince during a reception hosted by Prime Minister Igor Luksic.

Evenso, Petrovic’s attorney in Montenegro, Tania Turquin Spicanovic, said the prince does not expect Montenegro to restore the monarchy, and only wants to see the new law “consistently applied.”

The law also recognizes the royal house’s role in Montenegro history and how it was “violenty annexed” by Serbia nearly 100 years ago.

Yet in many ways, it does look like Montenegro is headed towards restoring its monarchy. All it needs to do is hold a coronation ceremony for Prince Nikola. But there is no word of that happening in the near or distant future.

Montenegro is not the only country where there are talks of having a monarchy once again .Earlier this year, two-thirds of Serbians surveyed that they would like to see their country become a kingdom. Already, its former royal family lives in Serbia and occasionally do public engagements. Same goes for the former royals of Romania, although no poll has shown a majority want a monarchy again.

Related Website:

The Royal House of Montenegro and Njegoskij’s Fund

About the Kingdom of Montenegro:

The small Adriatic nation of Montenegro was ruled by Prince-Bishops until Danilo I became Prince. His heir, from 1910 to 1918 was elevated to the status of King of Montenegro. After World War I the country was handed over to the Serbs as part of the creation of Yugoslavia. King Nicholas I was a poet-monarch and had 12 children who lived very eventful lives even after the loss of their own monarchy. One daughter married the famous WW1 Russian commander Grand Duke Nicholas Romanov and another married King Victor Emanuel III of Italy. Although they have claimed the royal rights no native Montenegrin monarch has reigned since Nicholas I.

About the Prince Nikola II:

Prince Nikola II is the only son and heir of the late Prince Michael of Montenegro, Grand-Duke of Grahovo and Zeta, who lived in exile under a "regency"(born on 1 September O.S., 1908 and regarded by Montenegro's monarchists asking from 7 March 1921 until his death in 1986, and Geneviève Prigent (1919-1991). (Nikola's parents married on 27 January 1941 and divorced in Paris, France on 11 August 1949).

Nikola was an active participant in the campaign for the restoration of Montenegro's independence, preceding the referendum on the separation of the former kingdom from the provisional State Union of Serbia and Montenegro.

Prince Nikola made public pronouncements of his willingness to return to the Montenegrin throne if that were the wish of the people. In July 2010 the government of Montenegro made a formal offer to provide Nikola with a €3,000 monthly stipend (equal to that ofthe President), granting his family with an annual €300,000 civil list, a formal residence in Cetinje and the return of the Petrović Njegoš historic family home in Njeguši. This offer was rejected because Nikola believed that the proposal did not deal adequately with the issue of property compensation, as more than thirty properties were alleged to have been confiscated from the dynasty after the monarchy was overthrown. Furthermore, he believed that the bill would prevent the dynasty from participating in political life and restrict the ability of members of the dynasty to speak freely about certain subjects. He also said that the civil list amount that was announced inthe press was not actually contained in the proposed version of the bill that he was shown.

Owing to his stance on this bill, Nikola chose not to attend the celebrations of the centenary of the Kingdom of Montenegro that were held on 28 August 2010. Instead he celebrated in private. However On the 12 July 2011 the Parliament of Montenegro adopted the Law on the Status of the Descendants of the Petrović Njegoš Dynasty. (More Here)

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amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

My own Views on Irans future.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Jepeh melli Pretended that they were nationalists, if they knew anything
about Iranian culture and traditions they would know that betraying the
shah is the most unnationalistic and unpatriotic thing to do.

For those of us that know the difference between this arabic culture and
Iranian culture we need to be more forceful in our promonarchy views.

I think we need to have a natonalist movement based on Irans Culture and
remind iranians that means, the very foundation of it must be and will
always be Shah-han-shahi, in place of the arabic culture present today that has brought
iran to its knees.

The only Truly Nationalist Group in Iran is the Monarchy, the commies
and mullahs and proRepublicans... none of them can claim to be either
the nationalistic or the patriotic voice of iran, We all know that
because we all know Irans history.  In addition their revolution and its results goes to prove what complete traitors they all were to Irans 3500 years of civilization.

So really, iranians were weakened by the concept of divide and rule, you
have this mossadegh guy who is revered by some as a patriot, yet he
betrayed the shah, hell of a patriot/more like traitor using populist
sentiments and using it against the very foundations of what has been
the symbol of iranian culture since history began.

Add to that you have some people that are prorepublican and they would
like to also be considered nationalist and patriotic???? To what culture, which
traditons, based on which language, I'm not saying that monarchists will not be
democratic, it is an ideal that we can incorporate, but give us a break
in calling yourselves patriots or nationalists, at this point if your
not a monarchist, you are not aware of Irans culture.  The monarchy is
and has always been at the very heart of iranian culture since
prehistory, the plain truth.

People are wondering why were things so great in the past and now they
are so bad, you need to get back to your own good, succesful, just &
freedom creating traditions, represented by the monarchy. Easy.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

TS9 Discussing our personal experience

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

This is not market research, I'm not sure anyone can claim to know either way as market research does not work in totalitarian states like iran.  Its based on less than a few hundred kids meet at parties. 

I live in USA/UK and in the UK I see lots of the younger generation enrolled in studies, they express to me the revolution was the worse thing ever and they wish someday iran has a king again and can enjoy the progress it used to have, they are all fresh from iran, not part of the green movement, they want regime change mostly and keep insisting and telling me, things like you don't understand how corrupt iran is, it needs a reza shah... you can't mistake their views, its pretty blunt.

really I think the views of just about everyone here including the promonarchist are completely off base with what gets expressed to me by young iranians abroad... maybe by living in a place like london teir views will change again as they grow up, but those that coe fresh from iran for studies are for sure mostly promonarchy. kash shah barmigasht , saltanat barayeh bazi mamlekat mesleh ma khoob car mikoneh etc.


Truthseeker9

APFS

by Truthseeker9 on

"majority under 25 as preferring a monarchy restoration"

Where did you get this statistic? Can we have the link please?


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

hirre, I seriously doubt that you are right.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

I think its more than just passing words, its feelings and beliefs too.

I see it among the majority under 25 as preferring a monarchy restoration, do either of you hang around among our youth?

I don't know why them, people 35 to 45 years old, like the video of the zarghan guy, there it is more like 35-40%... actually the older you get the less monarchists I see, don't know why.. I think the youth reject the older generations views actually that are not promonarchist.  I truly stand by the view and would have no problem proving it if you came to London or the young ones that escaped to the west coast of the US. 


hirre

Seriously...

by hirre on

No serious person thinks a monarchy is possible in Iran, not even the majority of iranians... There is a difference between wanting a monarchy and saying "the shah was better than khomeini". In Iran (but mostly abroad) we hear a lot of: "zamane shah mitonestim in kar konim... on kar konim..." and so on, but that is not to be confused with wanting an actual monarchy, which unfortunately many monarchists think!

Many monarchists take advantage of older iranians' stories who lived during the shah era and making it sound like everybody wants monarchy. The fact is that the older generation is a minority and the islamic republic has managed to brainwash the youth by using true facts along with propaganda during many years. Even if the shah was a jesus-figure the youth wouldn't know it because the regime has systematically glorified the revolution through brainwash... Only a few choose to think outside-of-the-box, but unfortunately they think in terms of "bad is better than worse"...


R2-D2

'amirparvizforsecularmonarchy'

by R2-D2 on

I hate to burst your bubble, but your comment below shows me without the shadow of a doubt, that you haven't been to Iran in a long while :)

My strong suggestion to you is to take a trip to Iran, and engage the people - Both the young, and the old - Then, you'll see what I'm talking about ..... !

I have to say, respectfully, that your comment below is so off-base, unrealistic, and, sorry to say this, silly, that I just can't respond to it :) !

 

Let's Live In The Real World, And Not In The Dream World :) !!

 

 

Again, Wishing you the best,

 

 

R D

 

 

 

 

 


Rea

You never cease to amaze me, DK

by Rea on

Heck, where do you dig them up?  ;o)


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

I am sure your stats are off, based on speaking with many young

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Iranians.  Go to any persian student party and speak with the 18 to 25 year olds and ask them and listen to their views on how cheated they feel and their views on the shah.

I think the reason for yor misunderstandng of the younger generations views is that either you don't communicate with them or... you're not aware that most iranians within iran are not at all activists culturally speaking as we see in democracies where people participate more politically. 

your quote..

The under 30 comprise 65% of the population, and have absolutely
no memory of the Shah - All they have seen is the tyranny of the
Mullahs

Most of the young Iranias who have no memory or knowledge, blame the older generation for the revolution and they wish the late shah was like reza shah.  There is a growing majority of the youth who while scared to express promonarchist views do so freely in the UK where some have fled to study and live.

My personal estimation of the reality in iran at this very moment, is that 10-15% are for IRI, 20-25% want a republic and around 60% are pro monarchy.  I feel that the monarchist number has doubled since 1990 in the younger generation, and may still have room to grow the more the uk and usa show their anti iran/pro mullah policies.

The number for monarchy keeps growing as I have seen it and the number for republic keeps dipping with time. And most of the say 55%- 60% youth, say they want a more dictatorial guy like reza Shah.  They also tell me that the interesting thing is in iran, no one even mentions the word shah, it is very taboo and people will be killed for being pro monarchy, but that they feel the monarchy works well for some countries like iran.

Personally, i would love to see it be up for a vote, no future system should come to power without it.  I'm also glad that prorepublican Iranians also know they should be seen publicly to want a vote and realize they can never create a republic without a vote on type of govt. monarchy/republic.  Hopefully they can live with what ever results come out from a vote and they awaken to the depth of popularity or lack of for their ideas among young Iranians.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

I am sure your stats are off, based on speaking with many young

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Iranians.  Go to any persian student party and speak with the 18 to 25 year olds and ask them and listen to their views on how cheated they feel and their views on the shah.

I think the reason for yor misunderstandng of the younger generations views is that either you don't communicate with them or... you're not aware that most iranians within iran are not at all activists culturally speaking as we see in democracies where people participate more politically. 

your quote..

The under 30 comprise 65% of the population, and have absolutely
no memory of the Shah - All they have seen is the tyranny of the
Mullahs

Most of the young Iranias who have no memory or knowledge, blame the older generation for the revolution and they wish the late shah was like reza shah.  There is a growing majority of the youth who while scared to express promonarchist views do so freely in the UK where some have fled to study and live.

My personal estimation of the reality in iran at this very moment, is that 10-15% are for IRI, 20-25% want a republic and around 60% are pro monarchy.  I feel that the monarchist number has doubled since 1990 in the younger generation, and may still have room to grow the more the uk and usa show their anti iran/pro mullah policies.

The number for monarchy keeps growing as I have seen it and the number for republic keeps dipping with time. And most of the say 55%- 60% youth, say they want a more dictatorial guy like reza Shah.  They also tell me that the interesting thing is in iran, no one even mentions the word shah, it is very taboo and people will be killed for being pro monarchy, but that they feel the monarchy works well for some countries like iran.

Personally, i would love to see it be up for a vote, no future system should come to power without it.  I'm also glad that prorepublican Iranians also know they should be seen publicly to want a vote and realize they can never create a republic without a vote on type of govt. monarchy/republic.  Hopefully they can live with what ever results come out from a vote and they awaken to the depth of popularity or lack of for their ideas among young Iranians.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

I am sure your stats are off, based on speaking with many young

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Iranians.  Go to any persian student party and speak with the 18 to 25 year olds and ask them and listen to their views on how cheated they feel and their views on the shah.

I think the reason for yor misunderstandng of the younger generations views is that either you don't communicate with them or... you're not aware that most iranians within iran are not at all activists culturally speaking as we see in democracies where people participate more politically. 

your quote..

The under 30 comprise 65% of the population, and have absolutely
no memory of the Shah - All they have seen is the tyranny of the
Mullahs

Most of the young Iranias who have no memory or knowledge, blame the older generation for the revolution and they wish the late shah was like reza shah.  There is a growing majority of the youth who while scared to express promonarchist views do so freely in the UK where some have fled to study and live.

My personal estimation of the reality in iran at this very moment, is that 10-15% are for IRI, 20-25% want a republic and around 60% are pro monarchy.  I feel that the monarchist number has doubled since 1990 in the younger generation, and may still have room to grow the more the uk and usa show their anti iran/pro mullah policies.

The number for monarchy keeps growing as I have seen it and the number for republic keeps dipping with time. And most of the say 55%- 60% youth, say they want a more dictatorial guy like reza Shah.  They also tell me that the interesting thing is in iran, no one even mentions the word shah, it is very taboo and people will be killed for being pro monarchy, but that they feel the monarchy works well for some countries like iran.

Personally, i would love to see it be up for a vote, no future system should come to power without it.  I'm also glad that prorepublican Iranians also know they should be seen publicly to want a vote and realize they can never create a republic without a vote on type of govt. monarchy/republic.  Hopefully they can live with what ever results come out from a vote and they awaken to the depth of popularity or lack of for their ideas among young Iranians.


R2-D2

'amirparvizforsecularmonarchy'

by R2-D2 on

I grew up in Iran (Tehran) in the 1960's and '70's, and was attending college in London when the so-called '79 Revolution took place -

I remember very well the conditions under the Shah - What I am trying to say is that there is absolutely no way that the people in Iran would accept the restoration of Monarchy -

I don't know whether you have recently travelled to Iran or not, but if you go there, and talk to people, especially those under 30, absolutely no one, "None", talks about restoring the Monarchy -

The under 30 comprise 65% of the population, and have absolutely no memory of the Shah - All they have seen is the tyranny of the Mullahs - Additionally, they are very well educated, and keep up with the news all over the World via the internet -

Furthermore, all throughout their lives, they have seen dictatorships, such as in the Soviet Union, and elsewhere, collapse, and turn into Republics - Not Monarchies :) !

At best, and I am being quite charitable here, Monarchy has no more than 15% support amongst the population in Iran - To restore Monrachy, we need a Super-Majority of at least 65 to 70%, if not higher -

Again, please be "Realistics" - The Math Should Tell  You That The Restoratiobn Of Monarchy Is A Highly Improbable, If Not An Impossible Task ..... !

 

 

Wishing You The Best,

 

 

 

R D

 

 

 

 

 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

r2d2 your comment asks us to embrace being a lemming

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Go with the tide of the times, embrace, folow the crowd.

Is India (democracy)better off or China (autocracy)?

Is Russia (autocracy) better off or poland/ukraine (democracy)?

Freedom matters more than democracy, far more.  

You are right in one respect, if enough people want democracy cool aid, then they will get it and after the poverty/in fighting/dependence on other powers sets in then people will have to look for a solution for the mess.

I'm just sayin lets skip the hard lessons and use our wisdom to learn from others mistakes that are in a similar situation to our own and make an intelligent choice.  Or else we will have wasted our time and accomplished little.  The late Shah was I believe on the exact right track up until he was betrayed, by his own people and by his so called friends. 

The Late Shah is the true example for protecting and engaging our good traditons that lead to success, independence, freedom and happiness.  

Look I understand you can't see the obvious, but I just don't want life to have to teach you the way it teaches all others.  It doesn't hae to be that way at all.  I am free and not ever going to be in a position to risk anything of my own at all to help others find the correct answers, and what ever happens to Iran will be no skin off my nose. 

If it enjoys freedom and prospers at the most I will get to enjoy it and have a nice place for a vacation home, if it embraces democracy and gets flushed down the toilet of poverty and dependence, it won't affect my children.  Sure I'll be sad for the people, but if after the last 30 years enough of them are still not using the wisdom they were given to really learn from others and think idependently then they will face the consequences.

By the way, China and Russia are doing far better than all, just an opportunity to use your own mind andmaybe realize that the #1 aim of the mass media is to dupe the intellecuals using misinformation in their own countries so I fully empathize with you r2d2 if you can not be a monarchist.


R2-D2

'maziar 58'

by R2-D2 on

Well ..... The manner in which you expressed yourself below, gave one the impression that you are a Monarchist ..... !

P.S. I sincerely hope that you are not one - I, like most of our beloved Brothers and Sisters in Iran, believe in practical and workable solutions - Things that can affect people's lives in a positive way -

 

And not in some By and By, Pie In the Sky Fantasy of restoring the Monarchy ;) !

 

 

R D

 

 

 

 


maziar 58

..

by maziar 58 on

clarification.......

I only have a solid good memories of my PAST and nothing of the FUTURE for that matter since I know ME don't count

I,  NEVER mentioned my political view or any thing else for that matter

I'm just a FREE spirited size 58 and not an ignorant I think ;  SIR.

Maziar


R2-D2

'maziar 58'

by R2-D2 on

In all due respect, better than an ill-educated, and sorry to say this, an ignorant soul such as yourself :) - Unfortunately, the typical trait of most Monarchists ..... !

 

Wake up - You have much to learn ;) !

 

 

R D

 

 

 


maziar 58

pitty

by maziar 58 on

our dreams and wanting free motherland is turned into the hands of a battery operated robot size D and a well intended dariush khan......

But let be honest we are not montenegrans and the WEST still is on sleep mode in regards of middleast.

Maziar


R2-D2

'amirparvizforsecularmonarchy'

by R2-D2 on

Let's be a bit more optimistic :)

A couple of facts that I would like to share with you:

- The vast majority of the population in Iran is educated now - I remember that back in the 1970's when I lived in Iran as a student, the great majority of Iranians couldn't even read or write - Now, there are "More" women attending the Universities than men !

- The old days of colonizing the middle east, in my humble opinion, is pretty much over - Thirty or four years ago, the Western powers could manipulate the people, and set up revoluitions here and there for their own benefits - As I have indicated in previous blogs, in my humble opinion, the Iranian Revolution of '79 fell into that category -

However, with the great onset of communication technology, ie. internet, etc., the Western powers can't get away with stuff like this anymore :)

I want you to know that everything has its time and place: One of the people that I greatly admire is Reza Shah - He consolidated Iran, and stopped it from becoming another Afghanistan (Molook-ol-Tavayefi) -

However, times have evolved into more democratic and pluralistic aspirations - Let's go with the tide of times, and not against it ..... !

 

 

R D

 

 

 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

R2D2 my #1 goal for all Iranians is Freedom.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

I just have serious doubts that Iranians will have Freedom if they pursue "A Secular Parliamentary Democracy".  They are more likely to end up like the majority of countries with such systems that have No Freedom, like India.

A Secular Parliamentary Democracy is the ultimate goal, I don't disagree with that, how does one get there? what institutions are necessary? how must the culture first be transformed? My honest opinion, I don't see Freedom and A Secular Parliamentary Democracy together in my life time.  I may be wrong.

To complicate the situation for Iran we have, the USA/UK/France/Germany actively implemeting a united polcy with respect to the entire middle east including Iran to Africanize the region.  That by itself means a A Secular Parliamentary Democracy is going to be even harder to implement not easier as they will use their money, university institutions and their media to deceive and exploit Iran in their favor and Africanize it even quicker.  That was the goal behind the creation of the green movement.


R2-D2

'amirparvizforsecularmonarchy'

by R2-D2 on

The days of "Restoring" the Monarchy are way past ..... !

P.S. Let's look to the future - A Secular Parliamentary Democracy - That Should Be Our aim ;) !

To think of "Restoring" the Monarchy is akin to living in a Dream-World Fantasyland :) !

 

 

 

 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

It took these fools 93 years to figure things out!!! OMG

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Let's have a little more faith in Iranians.

Based on results so far one may get discouraged.  Consider Irans economy today, which is so unjust in comparison to when the shah ruled
iran.

Instead of having the largest growing middle class in the
world our mullahs enjoy ice cream flecked with pieces of gold in it at $280 a
scoop.  People who were deceived about the gap between rich and poor back whe the shah ruled iran got their answer.  Shows how little the average person knew about the root cause of ignorance and terror in Iran, islam.

And the USA/UK/France and
Germany that helped bring this Regime to power and even start the iraq war
are sincerely grateful to their islamic maids running iran.  Hopefully, Iranians will not keep insisting on their misinformation and ignorance regarding the Shah, the sooner that happens the sooner light will return to Iran.  It's all in our hands.

 


R2-D2

What A Waste Of Time .....

by R2-D2 on

The Titanic is sinking, and they are trying to re-arrange the chairs on the deck ;) !

 

Really ..... !

 

 

 


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