Patriotism Iranian Style.

Faramarz_Fateh
by Faramarz_Fateh
19-Aug-2009
 

I could be wrong, but I believe that a great majority of Iranian.com readers and posters are outside Iran; U.S., Europe and elsewhere.  If there was no censorship in Iran, the situation would be very different.

Reading blogs on here has introduce me to the concept of "Patriotism Iranian Style".  Its seems individuals that live the farthest from Iran are the most fervent "lovers" of her.  I read blogs that advocate bombing of Iran and these so called patriots come out like "moor o malakh" to defend Iran.

In my view, a true patriot is someone who sacrifices his or her personal life for the betterment or advance of their country.  Actually dictionary's definition of a patriot is someone who loves, supports, and is prepared to serve their country.

How could you live outside Iran, study outside Iran, work outside Iran, pay taxes outside Iran, contribute to economy of a country other than Iran, contribute to science, engineering or medicine of a country other than Iran, then go and spend 2 weeks in Iran to either visit family or collect accummulated rent money and come back and THEN, act as a patriot and lover of Iran.

Killing innocent people, Iranian or otherwise, anywhere, anytime for any reason is wrong.  Not many people disagree with this.

Its possible that to get rid of the current IslamoMafia regime of IRI bombing maybe necessary.  I don't know how, where, by who etc.  Other than bombing the Parliment while in session and or bombing Tehran University during a Friday prayer while Khamenie is speaking and GohNejad is attending, bombing other parts of Iran is not a good idea.

The bombing however MUST be done by patriotic Iranians and not a foreign power.  Remember, Akhoonds will not let go of power without extreme force.

 

 

 

 

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listen, you are not a Bahai, I am not a Bahai.  Why do you bring these poeple into our discussions?  What did these people do to you that has cause so much of what seems like irreversible pain?

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BUT, PLEASE  KEEP TAKING YOUR MEDS. 

 


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...and so are you, An-var.

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Faramarz_Fateh

Zulfaqir_110 they let you out already?

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Zulfaqir_110 they let you out of the timarestan already?

Did you start another new religion this weekend or u just have that 1 ?

It really must bother the hell out of you that now you have to be a dastmalkesh to the IRI elements just to be accepted somewhere by some people.

Life sucks for you ha? 


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(Un)Reliable Sources

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In other blogs, *Faramarz_Fateh* has already made it clear that he is not a Baha’i.  To imply otherwise, as in *Zulfiqar110*’s post, is simply mischievous and dishonest.  I, on the other hand, am a Baha’i.  I do not speak for the Baha’i community.  However, you may read my own comments on violence & patriotism, which are consistent with my faith’s teachings, in a post down below.  It is titled: “To What I Aspire…”

Please do not be misled by biased and unreliable sources about Baha’is.  Authentic Baha’i materials can be judged on their own merits and are freely available on the Internet and other places.  Let’s put a stop to misrepresentations and false accusations. 

Anvar


Sassan2

Yolanda

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You're very kind and absolutely right -- let these phony-baloney bleeding hearts go and blog on Palestinian.com!

Islamic freaks are welcome there! I even hear that with every utterance of "Allah Akbar" while blogging on Palestinian.com, they get an extra "young" virgin in Heaven!

These creeps would sleep with a nine-year-old child, like their holy prophet, if they had the chance!

Welcome to the morally and sexually perverted world of Islam.

Peace. 

 


Zulfiqar110

Ostad, welcome to the Baha'i New World Order!

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Ostad said:

In that case to prove you mean what you say, you should be the one who blows himself up first.


A baseeji dog has more humanity than you do.

 

Damet garm!

Note from personal experience of having lived amongst this owbaash va araazel for 25+ years, I can say with 110% confidence that 85-90% of Baha'is are exactly like this fascist Faramarz Fateh prick. This is what I have been telling you all about these glaze-eyed cultists. They are worse than the IRI, far more hateful and far, far more dangerous, as you see for yourself. You think the mullahs are bad, which they are, what would you do if you had a regime with Faramarz Fatehs running it? No, this is not a rhetorical question. These people are after that very thing.

Baha'i Cult FAQ 

 

Ramadan Mubarak to our Muslim brothers and sisters! May your fasting be acceptable by the Almighty and may the Lord All-High grant your deepest personal hopes, wishes and aspirations in the coming year. 


yolanda

Sassan2......

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I applaud your posts! Yeah!!!!!! I wish I could write as good as you by using a girl's language! Great job!

I do have a website for someone who cares about the Palestinians more than the Iranians: Palestine Times

//www.ptimes.org/main/

He can go there and blog until he is content!

 


Faramarz_Fateh

Poor attempts to divert attention

by Faramarz_Fateh on

IslamoMafia elements always try to divert attention from main issues by bringing up Israel as soon as someone bad mouths the IRI or Islam.

Although this may work in villages of Seestan and Baloochestan, it ain't working here Mehdi.  Sorry Charlie.

People are ever aware of the fact that Islam and Islamic Clergy must be exponged from Iran.  No more, no less.

Now, go to Iran and serve your beloved IRI. 

 


Mehdi

Israeli lovers always make me laugh

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They whine, and complain and shed crocodile tears for the "homeland" and they are so ready to fight for "human rights in Iran" and all those fancy claims, all up until the moment you mention that Israel is worse! They go bullestic! They want to have NOTHING to do with human rights anymore! Their "neighbors's probelm" is not important, all of a sudden. Slew of excuses why a government NEEDS to be brutal all of a sudden starts to surface. Well, gentlemen, I wonder why you extend SO MUCH courtesy for Israeli government in their baby killing but when it comes to the "evil IRI" you give NO ROOM whatsoever? How come this double standard? 

I am not here trying to defend Palestinians. I am just trying to make it clear that a lot of "opposition" to IRI, as well as fighters for "human rights in Iran" are neither interested in Iran nor human rights. They are here ONLY to suuport their land thieving regime who is as we speak killing more palestinians and officially endorsing a policy of expansionism at the cost of murdering others outright! And you will not hear a peep from Faramarz Fatah or Sassan or any baby Zio-Nazi. Iranians don't be fooled by such "human rights fighters." Recognize that you are dealing with people that make bloodthirsty mullahs look like sweet church ladies! These are the supporters of the brutal regime that steals people's land, money, and pride and if that people, in their primitive ways, tries to fight back, they will be immediately branded as "terrorist." Israelis kill quietly, so I guess that makes them not-terrorists! You guys just have absolutely no shame! I have no doubt you will get what is coming to you. Nobody gets away for long. 


ex programmer craig

Mehdi

by ex programmer craig on

...the most criminal regime in Middle East, Israel.

I think you accidentally said "most" when you meant to say "least", right? lol.


Iraniandudeee

Faramarz

by Iraniandudeee on

I'm not a islamist but a nationalist... i would slit a akhoonds throat if I could. I have no idea what you're talking about and accusing me of.


Sassan2

"Mehdi"

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You are such an over-the-top embicile, I feel like I'm utterly wasting my time as I write this, but here's what the embicile from Qom had to say in his last post:

"If, as you guys say, millions of people demonstrated and threw rocks at the police and attacked Basiji bases and according to your exagerated claims 69 people were killed, you take this scenario and present it as if every day all Iranians are being killed on the streets."

Millions of people DID protest all over Iran in the immediate aftermath of the FRAUDULENT elections -- that is until your masters got bloody rough and starting murdering people on the streets.

Moreover, some people put the number of dead between 150-300! You're actually low-balling the figure at "69" (only a perverted bache-akhund would come up with the number "69") and passing it off as an exaggeration.

And no, I don't "take this scenario and present it as if every day all Iranians are being killed on the streets." I just present it as evidence that the GREAT MAJORITY of the people of Iran only have HATRED in their hearts for the mullahs and their bloodthirsty IRI.

I never said "all Iranians" are dying on the streets. Only an embicile would write that -- and like I said, you can pick out a closet Hezbollahi really fast by how quickly they resort to the blame-game and attack everyone who is against them as an Israeli agent.

If it wasn't so sad, you'd make a good stand-up comedian in Islamabad.


Faramarz_Fateh

Mehdi, only an idiot

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Mehdi, only an idiot would start a post as you did "It is funny that your defence is also another very important principle of the Nazis - propaganda of falsehood. You Israeli right wingers,"

FYI :  Nazi's killed 6 million Jews

Ooops...sorry, Ahmadinjad dastmalkeshs like you don't believe holocaust happened.

I will make a statement about Israel for you, here an now:

As long as barbarians living in Islamic nations around Israel do not recognize Israel as a nation, and keep attacking it, Israel has the right to bomb the hell out of each and every one of them, especially the Palestinians every time they are attacked.

The 3 wars waged against Israel after its formation were all started by Arabs/Islamic nations.  And they lost all 3 wars.  


Mehdi

Sassan2: Lying and misinformation - Israeli right wing scam

by Mehdi on

It is funny that your defence is also another very important principle of the Nazis - propaganda of falsehood. You Israeli right wingers, similar to MKO and neo-cons, lie outright about the conditions in Iran. If, as you guys say, millions of people demonstrated and threw rocks at the police and attacked Basiji bases and according to your exagerated claims 69 people were killed, you take this scenario and present it as if every day all Iranians are being killed on the streets. Just lie and misreprersent, the same way you did about Saddam. Your intention is to get support for a mass killing of Iranians based on a false claim that the conditions in Iran is so bad that killing all Iranians is a favor that Israel will be doing to them! Again, this is what you did to Iraq, in order to send Iraq back another 50 years so that you could milk it easily for years to come. How shamelsss are you? Is there a limit to your attrocities? 

I don't have a "theory." You will see very easily for yourself that almost ALL those who recommend bombing of Iran will NEVER say anything even vaguely critical of the most criminal regime in Middle East, Israel. You or Faramarz Fateh will NEVER make a statement against it. What exactly am I "making up" here? 


Mardom Mazloom

Contemptuous and cowardice

by Mardom Mazloom on

Two peculiar qualities of patriotism !!
He he...


Faramarz_Fateh

capt_ah

by Faramarz_Fateh on

check spelling of "ridicules" ..... thats bad even for someone like you.

Better start saving $ to buy flowers for the graves of your akhoond relatives.....Iranian people living in Iran will not let  these people survive alive.

By the way, when are you going to Iran to serve your beloved country?

Its better than being a janitor in the U.K. cleaning after the najes British.

 


capt_ayhab

Fateh

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Kinds of little people like you speaking of truth is just funny, if not ridicules. The only nerve you hit is the one that make me vomit [WINK]

Amuse us more dude, you certainly are a sad joke! 

-YT 


Sassan2

Mehdi and "Ostaad"

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Is it me or do "Mehdi" and "Ostaad" sound like the same person or perhaps roommates or perhaps more (you go girls!)???

By the way, a sure way of picking out a secret hezbollahi is when they play the "Israel or Zionist" card -- the wickedly deceptive Islamists are masters of misinformation and true ostaads of the blame game.

Overall, Fateh is not saying anything terribly wrong here -- of course, I understand why the "Mehdis" and "Ostaads" of the world are against his idea, which is FOR IRANIANS to blow up the parliament and Friday prayers sermons, which would send a bunch of these freaking Islamist to "paradise" (read: Hell).  

I personally think it's a wonderful idea!

We'd be mostly killing mullahs (perverts and thieves), basijis (murderers and torturers) and their supporters (whores) -- what's wrong with that? How else do you people think we're going to get rid of these monsters? You think a few protests will do the job or chucking a few rocks or burning a bunch of trash cans? Or perhaps you guys think if only we ask them super nicely (to leave the country), they'll listen to us?

Get real, and do it quick!

These perverted/Islamist/bastard children of Muhammad are not going away without a bloody fight! It's in their DNA -- to fight and kill and spill the blood of innoncents. They acquired their trade from their prophet who fought 78 battles, 77 of which were offensive.

And Fateh is absolutely right for saying the fighting should be done by patriotic Iranians, and not foreigners!

People are dying in Iran already!!! They're getting raped as we speak! So innoncents are getting killed and more will get killled in the future if this regime stays in power!

So why not kill a bunch of these criminals and rapists now and try to avert the disasterous human toll that awaits us in the future? In short, if we don't do anyting, people will die. If we bomb them where it hurts, people will die, but at least we'd weaken our Islamic oppressors and have a fighting chance at getting rid of them.


Anvar

To What I Aspire…

by Anvar on

On Dropping Bombs:
I’m against war, violence, and killings.  I agree that killing the innocent is wrong but killing the presumed guilty, from thousands of feet away, is not right either.  I’d recommend a fair judicial system that would render an appropriate sentence on a case by case basis.

On Patriotism:
By now, either from religious or humanistic points of view, human beings should have learned to love their neighbors and love their country.  The vast majority of people in the world love their own country.  There is nothing special about that.  Unfortunately, at times, the love for one’s country translates into hate towards others.  Loving one’s neighbors or country are no longer fresh or outstanding concepts.  They come naturally for most people in the world.  Nowadays, the pre-eminent idea is to love the world. 

Don’t blow a gasket!  One’s country is a subset of the bigger global set and, consequently, covered by this idea.

Granted that we may not be quite ready for the implementation of this idea yet, but I think it is well worth contemplating. 

Anvar


Faramarz_Fateh

Bache akhoonds out like mooro malakh

by Faramarz_Fateh on

guys....don'y quit your days jobs even if it at Micky Ds  cuz you suck at reading comprehension, logic as well as writing.

I am first to admit my writing is not as good as it should be, but to miss the point of the blog so widely and responding with such nonsense is really disheartening.

At least we get to know the bache akhoonds that are afraid someone will distrupt the status quo and prevent $ from coming from Iran.

Days of an Islamic Iran run by a bunch of filthy bache baz is about to be over.


Iraniandudeee

VHAT?

by Iraniandudeee on

All I explained was that it doesn't matter where you live. As long as you have true love for your identity and country, and as long as you do everything in your power to support  your people and nation anyways you can then you're a patriot and a nationalist.... and therefor an Iranian.

 LOl, hit a nerve? Grow up will you! Seriously

 Your own blog answers your question. By your retarded logic (according to your blog) why should we listen to someone who's not living in iran (YOU), therefore (according to you again)  you're not iranian.


Mehdi

"Final Solution" always is recommended by Israelis!

by Mehdi on

Funny, how all Israel righ wing lovers on this site always recommend the "Final Solution" for Iran. I have no doubt you guys will get what's coming for you. If you don't have faith in that, then you must be so very miserable!


maziar 58

..........

by maziar 58 on

if thats the case reza pahlavi is a certifide fighter pilot (trained in lubuck,tx) But he is also  against military intervention,so CHE BAYAD KARD ?          Maziar


Mardom Mazloom

Fateh,

by Mardom Mazloom on

The bombing however MUST be done by patriotic Iranians and not a foreign power.

Hmmmm... Look how we'll proceed...

Show us the way, return to Iran. Put a bomb around your waist, and go blow yourself in the middle of friday prayers.

I promise you'll be an example. We'll at least celebrate your bravery here as the Iranian of the day. I'm sure that JJ will keep the page for at least one day.

Oh, a last question... you didn't write a blog that your wife threatened to leave if you don't stop coming on this site... I presume that as you came ...


Ostaad

The same way those who are killing people in Iran have...

by Ostaad on

"hit a nerve". What part of your brainfart had anything to do with "truth"? Can you tell?!!!


Faramarz_Fateh

Truth hurts

by Faramarz_Fateh on

All I can say to the likes of capt_a, Ostaad and Irandudee is to put your behinds in a nice tub of ice water.

I must have hit a nerve.......Truth sometimes hurts. 


ex programmer craig

Ostaad

by ex programmer craig on

Fateh, are you aware you're publicaly supporting terrorism?!!!

 

That's factually incorrect. Fateh said attacking anything besides regime targets would be in error. Regime targets are valid for attack to any resistance group. If they don't attack the government they oppose, then who are they supposed to attack? According to your definition of terrorism, every resistance movemnet in the history of man has been terrorism. That's just silly. You need to read the relevant international treaties.


AK69

Patriotism Correlates to Geography?

by AK69 on

Your blog hits on a number of points, but I will focus on the theme of Patriotism. Even  your own definition of Patriotism does not conflict with the patriotism of Iranians living abroad nor does it add support for your argument. Your point is taken, but I would say it only relates to the select number of Iranians that fit that “2 weeks in Iran to collect rent” category only. Distance, geography and patriotism do not need be in conflict as an absolute.

QUOTE: How could you live outside Iran, study outside Iran, work outside Iran, …THEN, act as a patriot and lover of Iran.

QUOTE: Actually dictionary's definition of a patriot is someone who loves, supports, and is prepared to serve their country.

AK69 

Bar Labe Goore Man, Avaz Bekhan


Ostaad

Fateh, are you aware you're publicaly supporting terrorism?!!!

by Ostaad on

In that case to prove you mean what you say, you should be the one who blows himself up first.

A baseeji dog has more humanity than you do.


Iraniandudeee

IF!

by Iraniandudeee on

If you consider yourself Iranian/Persian, stick to your Iranian culture, mentality or whatever, and have love for your  true country, then it doesn't matter where you live, YOU'RE AN IRANIAN.

 As for most people giving their opinion on Iran on this site, well, I'm guessing that most, just like me, will be going back to Iran for good in the future.... After all, this is the biggest reason why we want to see a government change in Iran.

 As for me living in the U.s for the moment, well, i moved her when i was 12, and that's really because of my parents. I had no say in it.