Syria Massacre News & Open Thread


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Syria Massacre News & Open Thread
by Onlyiran
09-Feb-2012
 

Another day, another report of massacre of civilians by the Assad regime in Syria.  More than 5,000 people have died, mainly civilians, including women and children.  Homs is being indiscriminately shelled by tanks, missiles and heavy artillery while the world is sitting by idly.  The Assad regime is not allowing food, water or medicine to reach Homs, causing the residents of the besieged city to starve to death or die for lack of basic medical care.  Reports are all over the internet.  There are hundreds, or even thousands of videos that can be easily found by searching YouTube or Google.

Those of us who have been on this site for a while can remember the hysteria over the whole Turkish “Gaza Flotilla” a couple of years ago.  There were two blogs, this one, and this one written on IC condemning the death of the eight Turks on board in the strongest terms.  The authors of the blogs, and those commenting and supporting them on the blogs presented themselves as peace lovers and people who stand for human rights and justice around the world, regardless of the nationality of the victims.  Yet, the same commentators and bloggers are completely MIA when it comes to the ongoing massacre in Syria.  In fact, the only thing they decry is the way the Assad regime is portrayed in the media.  Don’t believe me?  Look at this blog for instance.  One of them even commented on the blog by saying that we should be more concerned about women’s right to drive in Saudi Arabia than the ongoing massacre in Syria!!!  And this is the same person who not too long ago wrote this long winded blog talking about the injustice to the Palestinians!! 

So, get one thing straight folks:  every time you see one of these people talk about peace, Palestine and human rights know what it’s all about:  pushing the IRI line.  The IRI talks about Palestine, they talk about Palestine.  The IRI defends and justifies the massacres in Syria, they defend and justify at as well.  The IRI says that this is all a Western media conspiracy, they parrot the same thing.  The last thing these people are interested in is human rights.  Let’s not forget that Syria is right next door to Palestine that they beat their chests for every single day.

But, let’s keep focus on the subject of this blog.  In the absence of our resident bogus human rights and peace activists, I decided to write this blog to allow people to share their thoughts, news stories and developments about the human catastrophe in Syria.  Please feel free to say what you want in support of the besieged people of Syria and to share news stories about the on going events. 

 

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Yaasi

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 In
other word the millions of people who marched the streets of Iran and hailed
Khomeini had no hands in choosing their destiny? How long do we want to blame
the West for our mistakes? How long do we want to blame "ingilisa" or
"Amrikayea" for our misfortune that was brought upon us by no one but
us?  You mean to tell us that the millions of Iranians who live in Iran
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their strings? don't you think it's time for us to change our old habit and
find a solution instead of comfortably blaming others and do nothing? the
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"too sari khor" and adjust to any situation bad or good and lament
over the past instead of looking to the future and finding a way to become an
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dictatorship, stop looking up to one person whether it’s akhund or shah to
solve our problems we will never be anything but how we are now.

 


AMIR1973

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First of all, the Jooooz are involved in Palestine. Secondly, Palestine is Holy, and Syria is not. This explains the filthy hypocrisy of West-residing Stalinist and crypto-IRI Groupies regarding this issue. Any questions?


Onlyiran

PN - for your information -the Pahlavi regime was deposed

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33 years ago.  So, it's practically impossible for anyone to support it.  You may wish to see a psychiatrist to help you get out of that era.  Secondly, I personally have always, and will continue, to condemn Israeli injustice against the Palestinians.  It's just that I don't use the Palestinians for propaganda purposes like you and your ilk.  

The number of dead in Syria in less than a month is perhaps ten times of that in the Palestinian territories for the past decade.  Not that even one death is justified, especially that of civilians, but that's just to give your apparently comatose brain a point of reference and something with which you can guage the level of violence.

PS- I am no fan of the Pahlavi regime or monarchy in general.  So, don't even waste my time with that distraction. 


پندارنیک

PN -Stop doing mullah's dirty work and stop distracting from the

by پندارنیک on

I'm afraid that name calling and smart talk doesn't cut it.............I don't see any reason behind some of our so-called fellow citizens' concern for the wellbeing of the Syrian people, while they shun the Palestinian issue, and choose to either ignore, deny or justify the support of the criminal Zionist regime for the filthy Pahlavis. It's politics in bulk............no sampling please.........


vildemose

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Riyadh Al-As`ad said that his forces did attack a center for "thugs" (Shabbihah) in Aleppo but that they did not bomb it but that the Syrian regime bombed after the withdrawal of the Free Syrian Army forces. Let me get this straight--it is not easy to keep up with the lies of this army or the Syrian National Council: so the forces of the Free Syrian Army attacked a center of "regime's thugs" but that after the withdrawal of the Free Syrian Army armed thugs (sorry, soldiers), the Syrian regime's thugs in the center decided to bomb themselves? I mean, that is exactly the account that Riyad Al-As`ad told on Aljazeera Arabic.

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


 

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


Faramarz

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Davutoglu, the Turkish Foreign Minister was in Washington this week to meet Hilary. He discussed the Syrian situation in great length. At the end of his speech, in response to Haleh Esfandiari's question, he discussed the nuclear issue.

 

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Foreign-Minister-Spea...

 


Onlyiran

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vildemose

http://www.juancole.com/2012/

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http://www.juancole.com/2012/02/the-dilemma-over-syria.html#comments comment from Juan Cole's thread:

  • Lennart says:

    02/10/2012 at 12:04 pm

    Juan: May I respectfully suggest that if we are going to discuss arming the opposition in Syria we not use lose and fuzzy language like “Once you flood a country with small and medium arms, it destabilizes it for decades.”

    The United States has for decades been “flooded with small and medium arms” but still seems reasonably stable, at least if we discount certain parts of the South.

    Syria is already flooded with weapons but the weapons are controlled by the regime, which shows every sign of using them without any let or hindrance.

    As a historian you are certainly familiar with how Britain and France helped the Arab revolt 1916-18, with a small numbers of advisers, money, tactical advice and fast armored cars.

    Today we would be talking about flooding Syria with Kevlar vests, communications equipment and medicine, including first aid knowledge for the opposition.

    Not the least important is to enable the opposition to upload videnon to YouTube.

    Also, the US and Israel have already showed that they can break into the Syrian communications system. Why can’t the US do so again in order to knock out Assad’s communications network?

    Part of Assads military communications are carried over a dug down cable network. It can easily be targeted by the guerillas.

    Finally, the ongoing guerrilla war shows every sign of slowly wearing down the Assad forces and ending the incredible brutal Assad regime.

    The worry should not be that support for the opposition might spread violence across the border. The worry should be that if the Assad the regime survives his methods will be widely adopted in other countries.

    If Assad falls it will be a signal to other dictators that resistance to democratic revolutions is futile.

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  • A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


    Onlyiran

    PN -Stop doing mullah's dirty work and stop distracting from the

    by Onlyiran on

    ongoing massacre.  This is not about the Phalavis.  It's time for all you fossils to get over your obsession with 33 year old events, and stop propagandizing for the brutal regimes in Iran and Syria.  Beeating the Pahlavi dead horse for the past 33 years has served you well.  But no one is buying it anymore.

    In short: get a life! 


    پندارنیک

    خاندان اسد، پشتیبان بشار در سرکوب مخالفان سوریه

    پندارنیک


    Let us see one single piece of  evidence which can prove that the dirty Farah and the rest of the beneficiary members of the filthy Pahlavis did otherwise...............


    Onlyiran

    خاندان اسد، پشتیبان بشار در سرکوب مخالفان سوریه

    Onlyiran


    خاندان اسد در ۴ دهه گذشته علاوه بر ثروت‌اندوزی، پست‌های کلیدی حکومت سوریه را نیز در اختیار داشته‌ است. اعضای این خاندان از مهم‌ترین حامیان بشار اسد در سرکوب مخالفان و حفظ قدرت در این کشور به شمار می‌روند.     http://www.dw-world.com/dw/article/0,,15725186,00.html

    Onlyiran

    «حمص در آستانه بروز فاجعه انسانی»

    Onlyiran



    vildemose

    Posted on 02/10/2012 by

    by vildemose on

    Posted on 02/10/2012 by Juan

    Syria’s military continued its brutal assault on neighborhoods of Homs, a center of civil disobedience against the regime, on Thursday, killing over 100 persons, including children.

    This deployment of military force against civilians who were protesting is a war crime, and part of a pattern that by now amounts to crimes against humanity.

    The first thing that comes to mind at these horrific images is that something should be done.

    But what? Sen. John McCain has called for arming the rebels, as has the The New Republic, which appears to be veering again toward Neoconservatism.

    My wise colleague Marc Lynch has raised important questions about the wisdom of this course.

    I would argue an even stronger case against. Once you flood a country with small and medium arms, it destabilizes it for decades.

    Ronald Reagan spread weapons all around northern Pakistan, and in my view began the destabilization of that country, which now has an endemic problem with armed tribes, militias and gangs. I saw the same thing happen in Lebanon shortly before, during the civil war that threw that country into long term fragility. More recently, we saw a civil war in Algeria (1991-2000) that left 150,000 people dead, which is really no different than what has been going on in Syria except that it was on a much larger scale and the West at that time decided to support the secular generals against the rebelling Muslim fundamentalists. The arming of Iraq post-Saddam has left it a horribly violent society for the foreseeable future (a plethora of US arms given to the new Iraqi military and police were often sold off to guerrillas). And while the war would have been longer in Libya if Qatar and France had not secretly armed the rebels, it likely would have had a similar outcome (what was really important was NATO attrition of Libyan armor). And in that case the problem the country now faces, of militia rule and fragmentation, would have been much less severe....

    http://www.juancole.com/2012/02/the-dilemma-over-syria.html


    Bavafa

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    Is on the top list of our donation, which we often request our BD, Christmas gift be a donation to them in our behalf.  This report only reinforce their commitment to a great work in a borderless world.

     

    'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

    Mehrdad


    Bavafa

    OnlyIran: We may not see exactly eye-to-eye on this issue…

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    And I don’t mean to beat a dead horse, but only to point out that your view is based on the assumption that the Flotilla was designed/organized by Turkey.  It was and still is an international grassroots effort by people who see their own government impotent  or accomplice in Ghettoization of Gaza.

      A better comparison in my mind would have been, the involvement of IRI thru arming and encouragement of Palestinian mainly to act as a buffer zone between Israel and Iran and, by design, try to prolong that conflict as long as possible.

    Here is another question:  Of those who [rightly] feel appalled by the crimes of the Regime in Syria, felt and spoke the same when Bahrainis were been killed, though it was put down by foreign forces and was never allowed to get to the point of Syria  

     

    'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

    Mehrdad


    Onlyiran

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    Onlyiran

    Dear AO - you don't need to tell me something that I already

    by Onlyiran on

    know about this sad bunch!


    Onlyiran

    It absolutely is Bavafa

    by Onlyiran on

    That stunt was pulled by Turkey for political reasons, namely to gain support and status among Arab nations and to assume some sort of leadership role in the Middle East, in competition with Iran and Saudi Arabia.  It was a power play at the expense of people who dies on that ship.  And as far as the IRI and it taking advantage of the tragedy, well, we don't even need to go there.

    The Syrian uprising is a grassroots uprising by the people against a brutal dictatorship.  It has nothing to do with foreigners, despite how much IRI supporters try to portray it otherwise.   


    Bavafa

    Dear OnlyIran: I hardly think...

    by Bavafa on

    That the IRI or Turkey involvement and condemnation of the flotilla fiasco is the same as the current situation in Syria. But I have condemn IRI involvement in Syria, along with what the Syrian regime is doing to its citizens. As such, I have also repeatedly condemn IRI treatment of Iranian citizen along with Bahrainian or the backward Saudis.  

    'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

    Mehrdad


    Anonymous Observer

    Dear OI-If these numb nuts are "peace lovers," I'm Miss America

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    Dude, these characters are only motivated by one thing and one thing only: their disgusting anti-Semitism.  It's all about the Jews.  That's all.  The whole world can blow up and they won't care.  But a dog can pee on a sidewalk in Ramallah and they'll fill this site with comments and blogs.  It's a product of living under a system for the past 33 years that has anti-Semitism as its core ideology.  It has filled their meager brains with hate and they vomit that hate in the form of fake cries of "freedom for Palestine."  And don't be fooled.  They couldn't give a rat's ass about Palestine either.  Thier disineguity manifests itself in their over the top cries for Gaza.  

    Seriously, I have friends who are from Gaza, whose family members suffered losses in the 2009 attack on Gaza--and they don't even hate Israel, and are not as blatently anti-Semitic, as these losers. They have a much more balanced and intelligent approach to the issue than these hysterical nudniks (note the Yiddish word that I just used to define them--adds insult to injury for them).

    Anyway, here's a report from Doctors Without Borders (which will probably be accused of being a Zionist toy) on how Assad is using medicine as a weapon.  How much lower can you go?

     

    http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/press/release.cfm?id=5755&cat=press-release


    Onlyiran

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    AMIR1973

    OnlyIran

    by AMIR1973 on

    Exactly right. They are a shameful/shameless bunch.


    Onlyiran

    Dear Amir1973

    by Onlyiran on

    I wish it was only silence on the Syria massacre.  But they go way further. They actually try to justify it and divert attention from it.  These people have no shame or humanity whatsoever!!!! 


    iranvatan

    I agree with Jeesh Daram

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    They install puppets and they remove puppets.

    One puppet after the other.

    If thes puppets like a whore (Assad, Mubarak, Saddam etc) is not making the  money for the pimps (England, USA, France) they will be replaced.

    They also realized that making Iran an Islamic country brought them Billions of dollars much more than the Shah would. As a ammter of fact the Islamic Fascist regime has been giving out natural resources like candies.

    Look at the ouil prices today.

    It is our fault as a nation we have stayed very primitive and lack trust and solidarity.

    One Iran for all Iranians


    AMIR1973

    Dear OnlyIran,

    by AMIR1973 on

    The IRI talks about Palestine, they talk about Palestine. 

    I would also add: the IRI talks about Bahrain (about 50 killed in 1 year versus many more than that killed by Assad in 1 day), they talk about Bahrain. The IRI denounces the West, they denounce the West. Just compare their reactions to Israel-Holy Palestine versus their absent or very muted reactions to far greater killing in Syria. You have these hypocrites pegged perfectly.


    Onlyiran

    But Bavafa Jaan

    by Onlyiran on

    You say:

    The protection of civilian in Syria must be a priority for the international community.  But also any power trying to take advantage of the carnage in that nation must also be condemned equally

    But did you, or anyone else for that matter, try to condemn other nations', such as IRI and Turkey, taking advantage of the Gaza Flotilla incident on the two blogs that I have cited in this blog?  I didn't see any. 


    Bavafa

    On the subject of the blog itself....

    by Bavafa on

    Sadly there is no shortage of hypocrite on IC.  There are those who scream foul when one side kills yet stay silent or even cheer when the other side does the same thing.  In fact few have the courage to treat all crimes equally and rise their voice when both side kill.

      

    Let’s not forget the recent prisoner of the day here that was rejected by many, even though technically he is a prisoner of political nature.

      The crimes committed by Assad regime in Syria must be condemned and confronted.  The protection of civilian in Syria must be a priority for the international community.  But also any power trying to take advantage of the carnage in that nation must also be condemned equally.  Lastly, if we see people skeptical and untrusting of the West, it is not without reason.  Their silence during 2009 uprising in Iran AND specially the uprising in Bahrain and their lack of support points to their hypocrisy and selective support of dictators around the world.

    'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

     

    Mehrdad


    Onlyiran

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    Jeesh Daram

    و

    Jeesh Daram


    ویدر ماوس - به آن هم فکر کرده ام و مطلب خوبی را عنوان کردید.  بهرحال مقایسه دو دیکتاتور است و میدانیم هدف غرب اسلامیزاسیون تمام خاور میانه است،  برای سرکوب بیشتر آن کشورها  و مظلوم نشان دادن اسرائیل که آنهم نهایتا یک حکومت وابسته به آرمانهای دینی است.  باید دید کدام یک از ما کشورها دوام بیاوریم و نه زیر حکومت دینی برویم و نه دیکتاتوری نظامی