Hitler Norooz greeting to Reza Shah the Great

Siavash300
by Siavash300
05-Dec-2011
 

Unlike to presumed idea that Reza shah the Great was follower of Hitler, the letter shows the other way around. Seems Hitler had a deep respect for Iran and Iranian culture.

پیام تبریک آدولف هیتلر به رضا شاه به مناسبت نوروز



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hirre

Strategic respect

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Signed_Photograph_of_Adolf_Hitler_and_His_Best_Wishes_for_Reza_Shah_Pahlavi_-_Sahebgharanie_Palace_-_Niavaran_Palace.JPG

"His Imperial Majesty - Reza Shah Pahlavi - Shahanshah of Iran - With the
Best Wishes - Berlin 12 March 1936 - The signature of Adolf Hitler"

Iran has good relations with Germany, technology in exchange for oil/money etc... For Hitler it was important that the German machinery could be fed oil in a later stage and Iran was the key to that. This is one of the reasons the allied forces "invaded" Iran and forced Reza Shah to step down (even though Reza promised earlier that he would not ally with Germany and that Iran would remain neutral)...

During Hitler's time the germans even wanted to convince iranians that they were aryans:

"Iranians were immune to the racial Nuremberg Laws on the grounds that
they were pure blooded Aryans. In 1939, Nazi Germany provided Iran with
what they called a Germany Scientific Library. The library contained
over 7500 books selected "to convince Iranian readers...of the kinship
between the National Socialist Reich and the Aryan culture of
Iran"(Lenczowski. 1944, p. 161). In various pro-Nazi publications,
lectures, speeches, and ceremonies, parallels were drawn between the
Shah of Iran and Hitler, and praise the charisma and virtue of the
Fuhrerprinzip (Rezun. 1982, p. 29).

In 1941, the Allies forced Reza Shah to abdicate the throne to his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. His pro-Nazi followers in the Iranian government such as Fazlollah Zahedi and Mohammad Hosein Airom shared similar fates."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany%E2%80%93Iran_relations 

When it comes to american sanctions the germans are not willing to just "tag along", german economists have calculated that it will cost germany ~10000 jobs to cut all ties to Iran. Today germany has the largest share of Iran's export market (~15%)... Now Angela Merkel can say what she wants about Iran's nuclear issue and sanctions, but the fact is that germans helped Iran with the nuclear power plant to start with, also sanctions will give a hard blow to the german economy which is in crises even today after the european loan scandals... Basically what you see from Europe on CNN is a theatrical show, but under the surfice it's business as usual...America is alone in the sanctions game because they have managed to get oil etc from other sources as well as exporting to other countries, but Europe is far away from that... That is why you see European countries one day speaking against the IR and the next day there are billion dollar deals in arms, communication etc etc with the IR...


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

A Good King is an ardent Nationalist like the Pahlavi's were

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

There is a difference between nationalist=moderation and ultra-nationalist = extremism.

Nationalists message is we are less than no nation.

Ultra-Nationalists message is we are above other nations. 

Regarding priorities, its a long long subject and gets nowhere in the end.  As an ardent monarchist, I believe in secular government, that means the clergy can not sit and rule in the name of god, as gods representative.  However, I believe based on the constitution of Iran and 2500 years of tradition that the king/queen can be a symbol for all religions.

FYI your question of priorities is really a futile attempt to try and make improvements (changes) in a people that took millenia to form their priorties.  Basically love it as it is, because a million people like you can't change what is.  This is why Iran needs to develop democracy based on its own culture if it is to work, just like everywhere else that did it based on their cultures.  Why france is different than holland which is different than uk which is unlike spain which is unlike italy.

Irans culture which exists within the people of iran, lists priorities like this, khoda, shah(president if it were a republic), mihan.

This can change, but not in our lifetimes, as it truly takes a long long time.

 

One could say revolution/coup happened because Shah put Iran first (creating foreign motivation to remove him) and one large group of people instead of putting shah first put mihan first thinking mihan needs democracy, and so betrayed him ad another group prokhomeini put khoda first and together they said bye bye to iran and all the hard work and progress shah worked his entire life creating.  So they would have been fine if they had put Shah above Mihan or khoda unlike your priorities. 

 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Thanks guys

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

I think fascist ultra-nationalist forces within Iran with their extremism to solve the nightmare and pain Iranians face
will easily win.

As a self proclaimed ultra nationalist Pan-Iranist I guess I would win :-) But there is just one problem: I am not an extremist or fascist. Otherwise I fit the bill perfectly. Believe me nationalists is just what Iran needs to recover.

There is no reason for my point of view to be at odds with Monarchists. I have no problem with a competent Monarch as long as they put Iran first. No more putting the king ahead of nations. Mihan is more important than a King or any ruler.

 


Siavash300

AmirP and VPK great ideas are alike

by Siavash300 on

both suggestions are beautiful thinking from beautiful minds.

Thanks,

Siavash


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Siavash300

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

The issue we have is an antisemetic even fascist IRI.  The minute you agree with secular government you are pointing towards friendship or at least cooperative relations with Israel, due to people to people relations and history.  Minus IRI types Iranians on a people level admire Jewish Culture in Iran it is very similar to our own and was impacted positively by it.  If we move towards a republic however, I think fascist ultra-nationalist forces within Iran with their extremism to solve the nightmare and pain Iranians face will easily win.  The monarchy can counter this easily by preventing any political group from having access to absolute power as they do in Europe.

So a good motto for Monarchists is "Peace, Progress and Human Rights for Iran with a secular democracy". 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear Siavash

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I agree my suggestion is to move to productive things. For example remind people of how Iranian officials helped rescue Jews from Nazi. They used the relation with Nazi to get the innocent people out of danger and into safety.

In addition Reza Shah was the first to pray at a Synagogue. In 1400 years we had finally a king who respected Jews. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rez%C4%81_Sh%C4%81h#M...

 


Siavash300

Thanks VPK..let's stay focus on subject

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We were talking about being the same side with Israel and this blog doesn't help us in this conjunction and then this guy who didn't listen to my previous advise of seeking therapy came around and labled it as "ass kissing". I tried to explain the science of politic patiently with this guy. But seems the damage of his Iranian father in relation with him and his American mother is so deep that only skillfull therapist can help. it has nothing to do with disease that Iranian innovated or anything else. The issue is psychiatric, not political. So Let's move on because it seems it is just waste of time.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

For the benefit of the sane

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I am not even gonna bother responding to the other one. But for the benefit of those with open minds you may do some research and find out. The "Canon of Medicine" for example was the "Bible" of medical knowledge

As for medicines the most obvious is opium which is still the primary source of pain killers. Other medicines include use of hibiscus for blood pressure. This was confirmed as very effective with no side effects. Plus it is really inexpensive and has antioxidant properties.

Another example is a very accurate description of the c-section in Shahnameh. Including how to sedate the mother; remove the baby and sow the mother back. Hence saving both child and mother.

For more details:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Iranian_medic...

Of course there are mental problems beyond reach of any known medicine. One is "self hatred". In fact hatred of any form is a poison which is difficult to remove. Partially because the person does not want it removed. 

People with low self esteem project their problems to others. Figuring blaming other people will save them. But it won't. Because if you got a problem it does not get fixed by *** blaming others people. You got to fix the problem without the person.

Anyway I am happy to help but I want 300$ an hour; and I don't take insurance. Therefore no more help from me but real Iranians are of course welcome to ask me anything they want. I  will respond to them for no pay.


JahanKhalili

So why didn't Iranians do it?

by JahanKhalili on

Why didn't you ever cure even one disease?

Because, you have no respect for the truth.

Your culture values lying and doesn't value the truth.

That's why you all never discovered a damned thing (except for some minor contributions here and there under Western guidance). 


JahanKhalili

What's the matter, can't answer a question?

by JahanKhalili on

I asked what disease was ever cured by Iranians, or what drug was ever invented by them, and you idiots - as usual - just go on bullshitting.

... and then you wonder why I despise Iranians, and pretend that your own behavior isn't disgusting. 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Re: JK Modern Medicine Up Until 17th Century was mostly Iranian

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Our friend JK is beyond modern medicine Iranian or Western. I doubt even Chinese; would help! 

Maybe some Indian meditation; African or Native American herbs;  one may hope.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

JK Modern Medicine Up Until 17th Century was mostly Iranian

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Look at what was taught in UK/Poland etc Avicena medicines etc. Ask Professors about Iranian contribution.


Siavash300

Jahankhalili' problem

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Your problem has nothing to do with Iranians or Iranian innovations. Your problem is your irresponsible Iranian father who was a disturbed Iranian man and never took stand by your American mother. you view her as being victimized by cruel treatment of your Iranian father. Extensive therapy is your only solution. Hope you made an appointment with therapist by now. That is the way to go.


JahanKhalili

Proud Iranians Are Full of It

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Name one disease that was cured or one drug that was discovered by Iranians.


Iqbal Latif

Âbâd bâd Iran va shad bâd Irani!

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Iranians contributions to mankind has been immense. I will just began with medical sciences, lets start around 1200 years back when Red Indians ruled Amerika:

With us ther was a Doctour of Phisyk 
In al this world ne was ther noon him lyk 
To speke of phisik and surgerye, . . . 
Wel knew he the olde Esculapius, 
And Deiscorides, and eek Rufus, 
Old Ypocras, Haly, and Galien, 
Serapion, Razis, and Avicen

I have started with Geoffrey Chaucer who wrote in his prologue to the Canterbury Tales, and named  the great physicians of the past that his 14th-century audience could be expected to recognize Esculapius,  Deiscorides, Rufus, Old Ypocras, Haly, and Galien. Chaucer then goes on to name physicians from the medieval  world of Middle East Ibn Sarabiyun or Serapion; `Razis' the great clinician of the early 10th century; `Avicen', or Avicenna referring to Ibn Sina whose early 11th-century medical encyclopedia was as important in Europe as it was in the Middle East.

To expound let's first read Ali Jafarey  who writes ''

''In its thousand years of supremacy, Pârsi has shaped one of the most excellent and premium creative writing  from the ‘a’ of ‘anatomy’ to the ‘z’ of ‘zoology’ on animals, art, architecture, astrology, astronomy, drama, food, games, geography, government, history, humor, literature, magic, medicine, music, religion (Zoroastrian, Manichaeism, Mazdak Movement, Islam, Sufism, Christianity and Baha’ism), science, ‘translation and commentary’ (from Arabic,Greek, Pahlavi, Sanskrit, Turkish and other languages into Pârsi), and other fields of the human life. Phonetically, it sounds sweet to ears. Its articulated vowels make it much less guttural. Its poetry is, perhaps, the richest in language, expression, inspiration, narration, rhyme, tune, length, height and depth in the world languages.

Well-known Pârsi authors, numbering around 400 persons, are not only writers, generally prolific, but simultaneously a combination of two or more as architects, artisans, astronomers, chemists, court flatterers, ecologists, fictionists, geographers, historians, linguists, litterateurs, mathematicians, musicians, mystics, philosophers, physicians, poets, politicians, rulers, scientists, teachers, technologists, theologians and zoologists.Among those known better in the Western World are: Abhari (Asir al-Din Abhari), Alpharabus (Abu Nasr Farabi), Avicenna (Abu Ali Sina), Biruni (Abu Reihan Biruni), Ferdowsi (Abol Ghassem Ferdowsi Tusi), Geber (Jaber Ibn Hayyan), Hafez (Khajeh Shams al-Din Hafez-e Shirazi), Haravi (Abu Mansur Movaffaq Heravi), Kashi (Ghyas al-Din Jamshid Kashi), Kharazmi (Mohammad Kharazmi), Khayyam (Omar Khayyam Nishapuri), Rhazes (Zakariya Razi), Rumi (Mowlana Jal al-Din Mohammad Balkhi), and Sa’di ( Sheikh Sharaf al-Din Mosleh Shirazi). Its Shâhnâmeh, the Book of Kings, composed 1,000 years ago by Ferdowsi Tusi, is unique in the World Literature. Consisting of 60,000 couplets, it begins in the name of ‘God of Life and Wisdom’, Who is higher than human conception and Who created the Universe and maintains and guides it. It praises Wisdom as the best Gift of God to humanity. God created the earth along with fire, air and water, and then the plants and animals. Mankind appeared in an erect posture. The human history begins from the days of cave-dwelling, vegetarian food, scanty covering and stone implements, through the discovery of kindling fire, turning to the ‘devilish’ meat eating, animal domestication, architecture, dress making, metal implements, medicine, commerce and navigation, to the invasion of Iran by the Arab Muslims and the end of the Sassanian Empire. That is where the Shahnameh ends. As a nationalist, Ferdowsi did not want to continue the History of Iran under alien occupation. ''

 If there were Noble prize instituted from 1000-1250, Iranians would have held most of them. 

 

A hospital was called a bimaristan, often contracted to maristan, from the Persian word bimar, `ill person', and stan, `place.'The earliest documented hospital established by a ruler was built in the 9th century in Baghdad probably by the vizier to the caliph Harun al-Rashid. There is no evidence to associate the construction of the earliest hospital with any of the Christian physicians from Gondeshapur in southwest Iran, but the prominence of the Bakhtishu` family as court physicians would suggest that they also played an important role in the function of the first hospital in Baghdad.

The physician, with his medical art and his drugs, 
Cannot avert a summons that has come, 
What ails the physician that he dies of the disease 
That he would have cured in time gone by? 
There died alike he who administered the drug and he who took it, 
And he who imported and sold the drug, and he who bought it.

Hippocratic Oath: Verses upon the death in Baghdad of the physician Yuhanna ibn Masawayh in 857 (243 H).

Latin translations of these practices provided late medieval Europe with ideas and practices from which early modern medicine eventually arose from Greek medical teaching and medical literature of the 9th to 12th century professionally practiced by `Razis' and Ibn Sina .

 

One of the greatest names in medieval medicine is that of Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn Zakariya' al-Razi, who was born in the Iranian City of Rayy in 865 (251 H) and died in the same town about 925 (312 H).

`Adudi hospital was founded in 980 (370 H), more than 50 years after al-Razi died, it must be an earlier hospital, probably the one founded during the reign of al-Mu`tadid (ruled 892-902/279-289 H), which he helped locate and of which he was later director.

 

The most sought after of all his compositions was The Comprehensive Book on Medicine (Kitab al-Hawi fi al-tibb) -- a large private notebook or commonplace book into which he placed extracts from earlier authors regarding diseases and therapy and also recorded clinical cases of his own experience.

Following al-Razi's death, Ibn al-`Amid, a statesman and scholar appointed vizier to the Persian ruler Rukn al-Dawlah in 939 (327 H), happened to be in the town of Rayy and purchased from al-Razi's sister the notes comprising the Hawi, or Comprehensive Book. He then arranged for the pupils of al-Razi to put the notes in order and make them available.

`Ali ibn al-`Abbas al-Majusi (d. 994/384 H) was born into a Zoroastrian family from the Iranian city of Ahwaz about the time of al-Razi's death. Al-Majusi practiced medicine in Baghdad and served as physician to the ruler `Adud al-Dawlah, founder of the `Adudi hospital in Baghdad. It was to him that al-Majusi dedicated his only treatise, The Complete Book of the Medical Art (Kitab Kamil al-sina`ah al-tibbiyah), also called The Royal Book (al-Kitab al-Malaki). It is one of the most comprehensive and well-organized compendia in early medical literature. In Europe the treatise was known as Liber regius or Pantegni and the author as Haly Abbas.

Al-Majusi began his influential Arabic encyclopedia with a critical survey of his sources, which included Hippocrates and Galen as well as al-Razi. While commending al-Razi's medical epitome dedicated to Mansur, al-Majusi criticized the Comprehensive Book on Medicine, the Hawi, for being too long (the modern printed version is incomplete at 23 volumes) and not well organized, since it had been intended as an aide-memoire and general medical record for al-Razi's own private use. Al-Majusi stated that the Hawi was so enormous that few could afford copies of it, and that in fact he knew of only two people who owned a copy, "both of whom were people of culture, learning, and wealth."

The Complete Book of the Medical Art (Kitab Kamil al-sina`ah al-tibbiyah) by `Ali ibn al-`Abbas al-Majusi (d. 994/384 H). The copy was finished on 15 May 1208 (7 Dhu al-Qa`dah 604 H) by the Christian scribe Tawma ibn Yusuf ibn Sarkis al-Masihi, who copied it for Mahmud ibn Zaki al-Ruqiy al-Shihabi. Shortly afterward it became the property of `Atiyah a Jewish physician of Damascus. NLM MS A26.1, fol. 33a, open to the chapter on the eye condition pterygium (zafarah).

The second book had 10 chapters on the following topics:

1.     the general principles of hygiene, dietetics, cosmetics, and therapy;

2.     therapy with simple drugs;

3.     the treatment of fevers and swellings;

4.     treatment of skin diseases and burns, bites, and poisons;

5.     therapy for diseases of the head, eyes, ears, nose, and mouth;

6.     therapy for diseases of the respiratory organs;

7.     therapy for diseases of the digestive organs;

8.     therapy for diseases of the genitalia and reproductive organs;

9.     surgery, including bloodletting, cautery, the setting of fractures and dislocations, and surgery of the parts of the body in order from top to bottom; and

10. recipes for compound medicaments.

Of all physicians, the best known name is that of Abu `Ali al-Husayn ibn `Abd Allah ibn Sina, known to Europe as Avicenna. He was born in 980 (370 H) in Central Asia and traveled widely in the eastern lands, composing nearly 270 different treatises. When he died in 1037 (428 H) he was known as one of the greatest philosophers, and in medicine was so highly regarded that he was compared to Galen.

Ibn Sina's magnum opus by which he was known East and West is the Kitab al-Qanun fi al-tibb or Canon of Medicine. It was composed over a lengthy period of time as he moved westward from Gurgan, in northern Iran, where it was begun, to Rayy and then to Hamadan even further southwest, where he completed it. The large comprehensive Arabic encyclopedia rivaled the popularity of al-Majusi's compendium and in many quarters surpassed it. He divided his treatise into 5 books, the first concerned with general medical principles, the second with materia medica, the third with diseases occurring in a particular part of the body, the fourth on diseases not specific to one bodily part (such as fevers), with the final book containing a formulary giving recipes for compound remedies. The Canon was known to Europeans through the Latin translations of Gerard of Cremona and Andrea Alpago and remained in use in medical schools at Louvain and Montpellier until the 17th century. Complete manuscript copies, in either the Arabic original or in Latin, are exceedingly rare, no doubt due to the enormous length of the entire work. The National Library of Medicine is fortunate to have a carefully executed complete copy probably made at the beginning of the 15th century, with illuminated headings opening each of the 5 books.

he Aphorisms of Hippocrates in the Latin translation made by Constantinus Africanus (d. 1087) of the Arabic version prepared in the 9th century by Hunayn ibn Ishaq.

A commentary on the Mujiz or Concise Book of Ibn al-Nafis, called The Key to the Mujiz and composed in Arabic by al-Aqsara'i, who died in 1370 (771H). The copy was completed in October of 1407 (Jumada I 810 H) and is one of the earliest preserved copies

The Salutory Treatise on Drugs for Forgetfulness (Risalah al-Shafiyah fi adwiyat al-nisyan) written in the 9th century by Ishaq ibn Hunayn. 

Proud heritage leads to a proud nation, I see nothing wrong with that? As a non Iranian I  proudly rest my case! Best wishes.


JahanKhalili

Actually, I'm better off without pretending Iranians around

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Every Iranian imagines himself to be a Shah, a Churchill or a gd Ayatollah. Its disgusting.


Siavash300

There are so much to read in one statement

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"Rumsfeld wasn't pretending anything, when he shook hands with Saddam - well, perhaps his smile wasn't so sincere" Jahankhalili 

 

I was not there when shah abbas made a close tie with Portuges in order to get rid of Brits in Persian Gulf, nor was I there when Rumsfeld fly out of Washington to Iraq and accomodated by Saddam. I was not there to hear what kind of words were exchanged during their meetings in Baghdad. But one thing for sure I know, they both met for a political reason. Both Shah Abbas and Rumsfeld. They didn't met for friendship or something personal. That is common sense.

The common sense says the politicians play their own games to achieve their goals. These are just examples to clarify for you what is going on in the world of politic. That is general statement. If you still don't get it you are not a man for the job.

   Another example that just came to my mind relates to Bill Clinton's daughter during Clinton presidency. She asked ruling mullahs in Iran to send her a copy of Koran. Some naive people like you might have thought she could go to Stanford liberary where she is studying and find the koran herself. it is easy. No need to ask Iranian official to send her koran. No the gesture is friendly gesture and that is politic. you shouldn't intepret literary with no flexibilty.

another example is Madam Albright appologized from Islamic thugs for the event of 1953. Again that friendly gesture is not something personal. That is politic. There is an alternate motive behind it. Al Bright didn't appologized for bombing Nakazaki and Hiroshima and killing million innocent people from Japanesse. All the sudden she appologizes Islamic thugs for coup in Iran back in 1953. Is she kiss assing ruling mullahs in Iran? No, it has nothing to do with ass kissing or being controlled or controlled by as mullah's agent brainwashed you while you were staying in Iran. that is politic.

Madam Al Bright is an american. Now, are you going to resent American culture for Madam Al bright dishonesty or pretending that she is friend of ruling mullahs? no you won't because you had a good relationship with your american mother. No need to resent americans.The problem is your fahter side.

I still believe you will be better of in your major Biochemistry.


JahanKhalili

No

by JahanKhalili on

You're saying some Iranian politician pretended to convert to Christianity.

That's pretending.

Rumsfeld wasn't pretending anything, when he shook hands with Saddam - well, perhaps his smile wasn't so sincere, but this is not the same thing as pretending to believe in Christianity. 


Siavash300

Rumsfeld vs.Saddam. Shah Abbas vs.Portugues

by Siavash300 on

"That was an act of political convenience, not an expression of personal friendship" JahanKhalili

The same principals apply to shah Abbas the Great. I may not express it in proper English, but it was the same path and line of policy. Shah Abbas also was not being controlled by Portuges nor Portuges was under Shah Abbas control. That is politic. That is what I was trying to accomplish all along this blog for you.  Got it?


JahanKhalili

Since You're All Hot for Hitler

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JahanKhalili

Rumsfeld, not Ramsfeld

by JahanKhalili on

Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam doesn't mean that he was being controlled by him, or that Saddam was under Rumsfeld's control.

That was an act of political convenience, not an expression of personal friendship.

No one had an orgasm over the handshake. 

However, an Iranian WOULD be likely to pretend to like someone when they really didn't, in order to achieve some crap. 


Siavash300

JahanKhalili misunderstanding of politic and political figures

by Siavash300 on

"Iranians have this mental illness where they assume everyone is just like themselves - a puppet of others" Jahankhalili

Now, Ramsfield shaked Saddam's hand in 1988. Did U.S kiss Iraq's ass? or U.S really loved Iraqis?  Ramsfield is an American, therefore he must be honest and truthful person. He did NOT pretend that he loves Saddam. Only Iranians such as shah Abbas pretending they love someone. Ramsfield loved Saddam Hossain from his heart when he flew out to Baghdad and shaked his hand and supported that bastard. He went to Baghdad out of his love for Saddam. May be took flowers with him as well. Some roses?   

What an intellegent man you are Jahan. Bravo.

Get therpay. It will change your view about Iranians and it also might help you about politic as well.  


JahanKhalili

Mirroring and Projecting

by JahanKhalili on

Iranians cannot explore the minds of others, because they lazily assume that those minds are just like their own.


JahanKhalili

WC had nothing to do with Hitler's rise to power

by JahanKhalili on

Hitler was his own man.

He was no one's puppet. 

Iranians have this mental illness where they assume everyone is just like themselves - a puppet of others. 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear Siavash

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Winston Churchill was the man behind Hitler became powerful. Do you know why? because he believed if Hitler get suppressed the communists will take all over the world and he didn't want that happen. He was smart politician. I know VPK doesn't like him

Do you blame me for not liking WC. By your own admission he helped Hitler rise to power. The guy was the definition of SOB. If you are right then  Jews who died have WC to thank. He was about as smart as Dr. Frankenstein making a monster who turned on him.

By the way I do not see why you argue with JK. The guy is a hopeless case; I don't bother dealing with him. What is the point of talking to him.

 


JahanKhalili

Iranians are always looking for a scapegoat

by JahanKhalili on

Their latest one is my father, or my relationship with him.

I've written all sorts of true things about Iranians, and what do they do?

They say I must not have a good relationship with my father.

How dishonest can you be?

I lived in Iran for over a decade. I've talked to all kinds of Iranian idiots.

But you guys can't admit that the stuff I say is true.

That's your problem, of course. 


JahanKhalili

Get out of here, Siavash300

by JahanKhalili on

What is this bullshit you write about?

I know more about Hitler than all Iranians put together.

Churchill being behind Hitler's rise to power - ahhahaha!

How do Iranians come up with this sh-t? 

Churchill wasn't even Prime Minister until AFTER Hitler came to power! 


Siavash300

Examples that is more familiar for JahanKhalili

by Siavash300 on

"I hate that stuff. Pretending and all that might be necessary at some point, but I hate that stuff" Jahankhalili

Do you know how Hitler became powerful? Do you know who was behind him?

Winston Churchill was the man behind Hitler became powerful. Do you know why? because he believed if Hitler get suppressed the communists will take all over the world and he didn't want that happen. He was smart politician. I know VPK doesn't like him but he was very intellegent and smart politician. His vision that Hitler is the only one who can stop Stalin ambitious and soviet expansion was remarkable. Now, he supported Hitler till Nazi became real issue. Did he pretend he like Hitler.? yes, he did.that was the reason he supported him.  Isn't it the same tactic Shah Abbas used to kick Brits out of Persian Gulf. ? Yes, it is the same thing. Now, I give you another example on which you are more familiar.

In 1991, U.S troops got to few miles from Baghdad. They could easily topple Saddam, but they stop there and left Iraq. Do you know why? it was during Bush father that happened. They didn't want to remove saddam because if they removed him prematurelly the danger of spreading fundamentalism by ruling mullahs would have been in order. The idea of exporting Islam  throughout middle east. Iran was in the position of exporting their ideology of fundamentalism throughout the region and U.S didn't want that happen. Saddam was good force to stop them, so U.S didn't want him to lose power. They just kick him out of Kuwait and left the country. U.S toppled Saddam in 2003 once Iran was not in the situation to take over. The ruling mullahs were much weaker than 1991.  Even in 2003,  there were still so many people who voiced opposing with Bush idea of toppling Saddam because they were saying ruling mullahs in Iran can still influnce in Iraq. Now, Did U.S pretend that they like Saddam in 1991 or in 1988 when Ramsfield met with Saddam? yes, it appeared that way that they pretend they liked him, otherwise they would have removed him with less cost back then. Now, is that the same thing Shah Abbas was doing? yes, the same thing.

In U.S in daily conversation once an Ameican woman sleep with so many guys, Americans (of course we are talking about politicians) never say that woman is slut or whore who is screwing every single guy in the block. They say "that lady is romanitcally challenged". or if they see a drunk man falling because of excessive alcohol consumption they don't say he is f**cking drunk. They say "that jentleman seems mentally challenged". This is politic and obvious you are not up to that. Stick to Biochemisty. my friendly advise.

BTW, the reason that you can tolerate  Americans with the same attitude of Iranian but you can' stand only Iranians, even though American and Iranian both are acting the same way, relates to your previous background in dealing with your father. Therapy will be helpful.

Siavash


Tiger Lily

Ewwwaw

by Tiger Lily on

Operation Ajax would not have been possible without Iranian monarchists and other self-interested collaborators.

But anyway, I don't like the smell of boot polish.


JahanKhalili

Screw Shah Abbas the "Great", too

by JahanKhalili on

I hate that stuff. Pretending and all that might be necessary at some point, but I hate that stuff.

Its the worst thing about Iranians, in my opinion.

Its why I can't stand them.

They're such a bunch of boot lickers and bullshitters.

They disgust me. Totally.