In response to Hdoer's
Raees e saay e Radio Zamaneh keest
هزار جور دلیل هست برای ادیت کردن کامنتهای رسیده. یکی
ناسزا می گوید یکی اتهام می زند یکی غلط املایی دارد یکی در محل کامنت
مقاله منتشر می کند و الخ. من یادداشتهایی برداشته ام تا اگر وقت شد به
آنها سر-و- صورتی دهم و به عنوان مقدمه در معرفت شناسی کامنت و ادیت
فرمودن آن و نیز حذف کامنت بی محل منتشر کنم. اما جاایی هم هست که نباید
کامنتی را ادیت کرد. نمونه اش کامنت زیر است:
«آقای درخشان، بند اول مطلب شما نقل قول کذب است و من هرگز از شما چنین چیزی نخواسته ام. تذکر
به این نکته هم ضروری است که بر فرض هم که گفته بودم نقل آن خلاف اصول
حرفه ای است. آنچه شما در ضمن کاری که سفارش گرفته اید می شنوید امری
محرمانه است و باید بر اساس اصل رازداری پیش شما باقی بماند. متاسفم که
برای شما اخلاق حرفه ای بی معنا ست و نه تنها آن را رعایت نمی کنید بلکه
براحتی دست به جعل هم می زنید. بند دوم ادعای شما هم کذب است و
آقای نبوی هرگز قرار نبوده برای زمانه رایگان چیزی بنویسد. اطلاعات دیگری
هم که داده اید البته به همین مقدار معتبر است.»
این کامنت با هیچ معیاری قابل دستکاری نیست. اما بخش رنگی بالا از آن کوتاه شده است (در اینجا).
کسی از شما نقل کذب کرده است که به او چیزی گفته اید و شما آن را تکذیب
کرده اید و ضمنا گفته اید که رفتار او خارج از اصول پذیرفته در همه جای
جهان و در همه زمانهای تاریخی است: وقتی به شما کاری ارجاع می شود و شما
داوطلبانه یا در قبال دستمزد آن کار را انجام می دهید ( از طبابت تا امور
حقوقی و مشاوره فنی و طراحی صنعتی و تولید رسانه ای و مانند آن) شرافت
کاری و اخلاق حرفه ای شما را از نقل آنچه در ضمن کار دیده و شنیده اید و
اگر در کار نبودید به آن دسترسی نمی داشتید منع می کند. در بسیاری از
کشورها این عرف حقوقی است و شما تنها در قبال دادگاه صالحه ممکن است
ناگزیر شوید از اطلاعات خود پرده بردارید. در کشورهای متعددی هم در اغاز
کار قراردادی با شما امضا می کنند که به آن تعهد به حفظ اطلاعات محرمانه
گفته می شود. اگر هم قراردادی امضا نشود همچنان عرف افشای اطلاعاتی را که
شما به دلیل کار و سفارش به دست آورده اید منع می کند و استفاده از آن را
به ضرر سازمان یا فرد سفارش دهنده نشانی از دنائت اخلاقی و مذموم می داند
و رفتار شما قابل پیگرد حقوقی است.
حسین درخشان نه تنها به این اصل پایبند نیست که حتی دست به جعل زده است و
از خود چیزی ساخته و به من بسته است. برای من جالب است که کسی که فحاشی
مردم را به خود منتشر می کند تا مثلا آزادمنشی خود را به رخ بکشد
تذکر حقوقی مرا ادیت می کند. او نگران است که روشهای غیراخلاقی اش با نقد
حقوقی و اخلاقی همان اندک تاثیری را هم که ممکن است در بعضی اذهان داشته
باشد از دست بدهد. بسیار با معنی است که او اگر هر کامنتی در هر جای وب بر
خلاف خواست و نفع او باشد رسما می نویسد و اعتراض می کند و خواهان
برداشتن آن می شود اما کامنتی را که در برابر رفتار ناجوانمردانه او
گذاشته می شود و در آن هیج اصلی از آزادی بیان و احترام به مخاطب مخدوش
نشده کوتاه می کند. آقای درخشان فکر می کند دست ما بسته است؟ یا حد دفاع
اش از «آزادی بیان بدون مرز و ترس و تابو» اجازه نداده است دو کلمه حرف حق
به او نه بلکه به مخاطبان احتمالی او برسد؟ آقای درخشان آزاد است جعل کند
اما کسی نباید به او تذکر بدهد که جعل او صرفا یک دروغگویی فرومایه
نیست بلکه زیرپا نهادن اصول اخلاق حرفه ای است که از یک دروغ ساده بمراتب
خطرناک تر است؟ من می فهمم که دروغ برای شماری از افراد از نان خوردن هم
واجب تر است و بلکه نان شان را از همین واجب می خورند اما نمی فهمم که چرا
آنها فکر می کنند تشت رسوای دروغ شان از بام نخواهد افتاد. بزرگترین آفت
دروغ از بین بردن و سست کردن اعتماد بین افراد است. اما اولین قربانی دروغ
خود دروغ باف است. زیرا دیگر کسی به او اعتماد نخواهد کرد. کسی که اعتماد
دیگران را از دست بدهد هر چیزی به جای آن به دست آورد ناچیز است. زیرا
دروغ ناچیزکننده است.
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Hoder-bashers club
by hoder on Tue Sep 11, 2007 07:28 AM PDTJahanshah jan, welcome to Hoder-bashers club. These are good questions you've asked and I' have tried and will try to answer them. But briefly:
1. Iran is less and less of an opperssive state compared to when Khatami or Rafsanjani were in power, unless you have an interest in exaggerating rare examples of violations. This is usually applied to the three group of oppostions: Pahlavists, Rajavists, Rafsanjanists. Unfortunately, a big part of the so-called refomrers (turned into native informers) have joined one of these three groups, especially the first the the third.
Jahanshah Javid, for his lack of first-hand knowledge about the reality in Iran and also for being too close to some major Rafsanjanists (From Abbas Milani to Haleh Esfandiari, from Akbar Ganji and to Shirin Ebadi etc.) has, perhaps unconsciously, been brainwashed and used by Rafsanjanists for their political agenda.
2. Lots of critics don't see the direct link between the local opperesson by the Iranian state and the real outside threat. They are so disoriented that have joined the great oppressor (the U.S.) to fight the small opperssor (Islamic Republic.)
They fail to see their assistance to the great opperessor has only increased the opperession by the local power structure. Therefore, they not only strengthen the Americans in their mission to destroy the only indepenedent state in the middle east, but also fail to achieve any reform within Iran.
I propose a different strategy. We should critically side with the Iranian state and fight with the U.S. hegemony to remove its threat. Once the outside threat is gone, the state of Iran naturally becomes more tolerant and it would permit to be further reformed, especially since it trusts those who stood with their own people rather their enemies.
Kee beh kee migeh self-righteous :o)
by Jahanshah Javid on Mon Sep 10, 2007 03:01 PM PDTRoo ro beram...
Hoder says he removed part of Jami's reply because it was "typical self-righteous patriarchal nonsense".
Hoder should know self-righteous nonsense; he's an expert in it. That's fine. We all can be self-righteous in one way or another when we take a political stand.
But what has disappointed me most is Hoder's lack of conscience and tendency to side with oppressors in Iran at the expense of decent individuals who want a better, freer, less oppressive society.
I know because that's what I did when I was a journalist for IRNA for 10 years. My strong faith in the greatness of the revolution made me overlook gross violations against human rights. My decision to side with evil (or be blind to it) for the sake of an imaginary "greater good" will bother my conscience forever.
Today I have no allegiance to politicians, governments, religions, cultures or idiologies. I judge everything against natural and universal principles of human rights.
Nothing, nothing, nothing, can justify any harm or limitations on individuals who wish to express their views. To do so would make oppressors -- be it American warmongers or Iranian theo-dictators -- more oppressive.
Hoder even ADMITS to his deception tactics?
by jamshid on Mon Sep 10, 2007 02:49 PM PDTIn his response to Mr. Jami, Hoder explicitly admits in editing out important sections of a writer's comments, and why so? To tailor it more to his own points? Is that fair? Of course not! But then Hoder is a known pro-IRI charlatan. I don't want to even bother responding to such moft-khor. The only reason I am leaving these comments are for new readers who may not be familiar with this "moozi".
Your reply to Mr Jami
by baback on Mon Sep 10, 2007 09:30 AM PDTMr. Derakhshan,
I am not familiar with either you or Mr. Jami. I only know of the two of you through the pages of Iranian. But what Mr. Jami said and you edited out does not strike anyone who has worked professionally in the West as remotely patriarchal. It is a statement of either explicitly stated or tacitly understood responsibilities of employees to their employers. You stated rationale for editing out the highlighted portion of his response seems to reveal at the least your lack of experience in working in a professional organization.
Jami's typical self-righteousness
by hoder on Mon Sep 10, 2007 02:37 AM PDTDear Mehdi Jami, before leaving that comment in my blog, you'd better had read my blog's comments policy, which explicitly states that the owner of the blog maintains the right to edit readers' comments, if necessary. (Or in Persian:)
- حق ويرايش نظرات برای صاحب سايت محفوظ است.
This is a common practice among most media outlets who publish their readers' feedback.
The part of your comment I removed was nothing but a typical self-righteous patriarchal nonsense that Iranian grandfathers love to give anyone younger which is even evident in this very posting of yours and its title. Your main point was kept intact.
Fortunately I have enough evidence confirming my statement about your persistence to keep Radio Zamaneh's distance from Rooz. Just the fact you are denying it now actually affirms my theory that you are losing Radio Zamaneh to Rooz's Ebrahim Nabavi and his influential Dutch backers.
Stop dealing with HoDim
by robertborden54 on Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:21 PM PDTFirst it was troubles with roozonline. Now it's radio zamaneh. Hossein the Dim (HoDim for short) is obviously a person with a big fragile ego who gets attention by causing trouble or saying and writing ridiculous nonosense. So why won't people in the media just stop dealing with him? HoDim is free to write whatever crap passes through his head. The rest of us have a right to ignore him. And the people in Iranian media have a right not to refer business to him.
جنگ شریعتی-طلبان
damonSun Sep 09, 2007 12:10 PM PDT
اینکه مهدی جامی به چرت و پرتهای درخشان جواب میده فقط یه معنی داره: جنگ داخلی شریعتی-طلبان با هم داره بالا میگیره!
Sahar
by Sahar on Sun Sep 09, 2007 04:24 PM PDTI think you should first try to learn Persian, then correct other's spelling errors, etc. In Persian, 'nazar' is used for 'comment', and 'edit' is tashih or better 'veeraayesh'. Remember the proverbial "Physician heal thyself"?
Ey baba
by Parham on Sun Sep 09, 2007 06:57 AM PDTThere was one place where we all seemed more or less safe from the stories of Dearakhshan's online flame-wars/"kal-kals" and that was iranian.com. Unfortunately, this is changing. People have a right to surf on the web to relax and escape from their own daily miseries. They don't need to constantly read about other people's ego-tripping and whatever (ultimately) nauseating experience they're exposed to wherever Derakhshan sets foot.
Seriously, this is all in very poor quality, no matter who's right and who's wrong.
Az maa goftan.
Re: Hoder
by jamshid on Sun Sep 09, 2007 02:49 AM PDTaghaye Jami, osoolan shoma be cheh dalil Derakhshaan ro enghadr jedi migirid? hameh midoonan ke Derakhshan yek mozdoore hoghoogh begir IRI hast. ba moozigari talaash mikonad ke khod ro tore digari jelveh bedehad. vali dastash roo shodeh.
shoma ham in nokare IRI ro jedi nagirid.
Jamshid