غیاب انسانیت

بنا نیست دغدغهء مردم غزه را بر مشکلات و خواسته های مردم ایران الویت دهیم ولی ...


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غیاب انسانیت
by Ali Nasri
03-Feb-2008
 

بعد از منتشر شدن مقالهء قبلی در مورد "وضعیت مردم غزه" در سایت ایرانیان٬ واکنش بسیاری از خوانندگان این بود که "چرا باید غصهء مردمی را بخوریم که در جنگ ایران و عراق حامی صدام حسین بودند و او را هنوز قهرمان می خوانند و از ما ایرانیان بدشان می آید؟!"

پس این سوءال هم برای من پیش آمد که مگر حق طلبی و آزادیخواهی "مشروط" هم می تواند باشد؟!!

فرضأ شعارها و سرودهایی که بچه ها و نوجوانهای فلسطینی در مدح صدام حسین می خوانند از شعارهای "مرگ بر آمریکا" ای که بچه های ایرانی از روی عادت٬ هر روز صبح در طول دوران مدرسشان سر می دهند٬ دلیل معتبرتری بر دیدگاه سیاسی و احساسات واقعی یک ملت باشد!

فرضأ مردم فلسطین باید بیشتر از مردم فرانسه و آلمان و انگلبس و آمریکا-که دولتهای منتخبشان صدام حسین را تا دندان مسلح بمبهای شیمیایی و جت و تانک و موشک کردند و در طول ۸ سال جنایت٬ از او حمایت کامل کردند - پاسخگوی قربانیان ایرانی جنگ ایران و عراق باشند.

فرضأ مردم فلسطین که به حماس رای داده اند بیشتر از مردم آمریکا -که به جرج بوش رای داده اند -مسئول جنایتهای سیاستمدارانشان هستند!

فرضأ کمک های مالیی که از جانب ایران به فلسطین می شود بیشتر از پولهای مالیاتی که از جیب ایرانی ها به جیب دولتهای کشورهای غربی می رود٬ صرف ساخت سلاحهایی می شود که برای تهدید جان خانواده های خودشان در ایران به کار می رود.

فرضأ ایرانی ها بیشتر از دست مردم فلسطین تا مردم هلند و سوئد و آلمان و غیره طعم نژادپرستی را چشیده اند و تحقیر شده اند.

فرضأ همهء اینها درست!

ولی حق طلبی و آزادیخواهی ما چه می شود؟! موضع گیری قاطع ما در برابر ظلم و ضعیف کشی کدام است؟ آیا میزان پایبندی ما به آرمانهای انسانی مشروط به روابط تاریخیمان با ملت های مختلف است (آن هم در چارچوب ساختارهای موجود روابط بین الملل)؟ و یا آنکه همدردی و همدلی میان انسانها و مبارزه با بی عدالتی و زورگویی فرا تر از این مسائل است؟

گر او می‌برد پیش آتش سجود/ تو با پس چرا می‌بری دست جود؟ (سعدی)

ما اگر به تاریخ و فرهنگمان اقتخار می کنیم برای این است که ارزشهای انسانی ما را تقویت می کند٬ به ما درس"بنی آدم..." می آموزد و ما را از بند تعصبات و خودمحوری ها آزاد می کند. وگر نه٬ چه سود آن هویت ملی ای که در قرن بیست و یکم٬ سدی میان ما و ملت های دیگر شود٬ ارزشهای انسانیمان را قربانی کینه های تاریخیش کند و آرمانهای امروزمان را فدای غرور شکوه گذشته اش؟

بنا نیست دغدغهء مردم غزه را بر مشکلات و خواسته های مردم ایران الویت دهیم و یا مسائل آنها را مهمتر از رنج دیگر مردم ستمدیدهء جهان بدانیم! آنقدر کافیست که بدانیم که "هر ویرانه نشانی از غیاب انسانیت" است.


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Mola Nasredeen: This time i must have found HER

by Anonymous found your donkey (not verified) on

Mola said: "I'm sure we will be able to find her soon." (emphasis added)

I am very sorry for the mistake Mola, but you did not tell me before that your donkey was a "she" and not a "he". You know, since this donkey bunch in iran "ham az toubreh mikhorand ham as aakhor", it is very difficult to determine their real gender accurately.

But I think this time I found HER. This one is "kouseh" and does not have any beard so it must be your donkey, it is assumed the name of "ayatollah ali akbar hashemi rafsanjani" and has taken the leadership position of a "tavileh" named expediency counsel or "tavileye khebregaan".

Gaavaan-o kharaane baar bardaar,
Beh zaadamiane mardom aazaar.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7o4YZV2_mU&NR=1


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Mola nasredine let it go !!!

by Tahirih (not verified) on

Our friend "Anonymous found your donkey',Has given you such a sharp answer and in persian "dandanshekan",that what ever you say Mr mola nasredine,would be a futile comeback.So my friend let go of this lost donkey situation since you lost this battle of words!!!!!!!!!please do not come back with a bemazeh answer!!!!!!
Just think about your end!!!!!!!!


Mola Nasredeen

Thank you for joining the expidition to locate my donkey

by Mola Nasredeen on

Dear Friends:

I'm honored for all your efforts to locate my donkey.

I should indicate to my friend "Anonymous HA HA", that standing up for animal rights does not contradict defending human rights. We people of Ghazvin stand up for both animal rights and human rights, so rest assured your rights will be defended in either case.

I also like to thank Mr "anonymous found your donkey" for the beautiful and moving poem he had composed in praise of my donkey. But unfortunately the one who you mentioned is not my donkey. It must have been a case of mistaken identity. I'm sure we will be able to find her soon.

Peace and love from Ghazvin

Mola Nasredeen


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Punja

by Anonymous HA HA (not verified) on

Punja You're right!

Don't listen to this Mullah (Nasredeen) with HIS PICTURE Posted.

Don't get disappointed!!

....

they don't have guts to admit what you said!
they're scared of human rights!

BUNCH OF SCARY CATS!


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Mola Nasredeen who lost his donkey...

by Anonymous found your donkey (not verified) on

I found your donkey! Your donkey has assumed a new name "ayatollah seyed ali khamenei" and is now the honorable leader in charge of iran:

Kharaki daashtam chegouneh khari,
khari aaraasth beh har honari;

Aan yeki khar daasht paalanash naboud,
Yaaft paalaan gorg khar ra dar roboud;

Shaadi aamad, ghosseh az khaater beraft,
Khar beraft-o khar beraft-o khar beraft;

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcF0kaRCmYQ&feature...


Mola Nasredeen

Re: anonymousHAHA - My donkey is camera shy

by Mola Nasredeen on

 Dear friends: Tahirih, Farhad Kashani,  

Could you all put your heads together and look for my donkey. I have posted her picture to make it easier to be recognized since there are many donkeys around (with all due respect).

 

 


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Mola nassredine ,Puja is right!

by Tahirih (not verified) on

Puja is right since the clergy in charge of Iran are after their own grand plans and power.
Do not make fun of pujas's knowledge ,because the clergy in Iran pretend to having knowledge but they are the example of ignorance.
They are as the last trace of sunlight upon the mountaintop. Soon will it fade away, as decreed by God, the All-Possessing, the Most High. Thy glory, and the glory of such as are like thee, have been taken away, and this, verily, is what hath been ordained by God.


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Puja, right on the money.

by Farhad Kashani (not verified) on

Puja, right on the money. Till IRI is in power, there will never, ever be peace in the Middle East. Mark my word. The IRI has small but very dangerous and barbaric support groups in most Muslim countries that were inspired by the murderer Khomeini’s regime and get financially and logistically and inspirationally supported by the IRI, for example Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbullah, Ekhvan Muslemin In Egypt and Jordan..among others. These group understand one language only : force and they have no value for one thing: human life. The IRI has been operating as the central headquarter for Islamic Fundamentalism for the last 30 years and till this regime is ruling our beautiful country and destabilizes the world and threatens every democratic and liberal value the world cherishes, world peace is just a dream.


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Mola Nasredeen,PLEASE LOOK AT THE CAMERA!

by AnonymousHA HA (not verified) on

HA HA HA


Mola Nasredeen

Re: Puja - Have you seen my donkey?

by Mola Nasredeen on

Dear Sir:

Since you are a very acknowledgable person, I was wonering if you've seen my donkey?

She wondered off a few days ago and I'm looking for her since.

Thank you,

Ghazvin


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IRI IS RESPONSIBLE

by Puja (not verified) on

I think, like Mr. Rashidian, that IRI and Mollahs are responsible that you can not find peace in the region and we see so much pain their. IRI supports with huge amount of money and arms Hesbollah and Hamas and is not interested that the palestinians will living in peace and have their own country. IRI will with several billion of Dollors for Palestines not to help them but to divert the opinion of supied peoples like basidji from problems in Iran. I think that you are an honest person and will see the situation of Bahais in Iran too. They are in beliving in an Iranian religion and they are all Iranian. For Bahais is Iran a holy country, because the religion is coming from there (like for Moslems Mekka is a holy place). I have read that they are not alowed to go to university. Why? Also I read about 54 jung people (all Iranian)who were arested in Shiraz. Do you know why? Or today I read that a young boy, 22 years old, will be executed because he drunk alcoholic drinks. Why? That is horrible! I hope that you will save your heart also for other people, also Iranian.


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One Big Difference

by Behrooz (not verified) on

Well Ali

Very good article however you missed a very important point.
There is a major difference between the Palestinians and the West

The West has money and has tones of it. So for most of Iranians who are longing to sell their identity conscience and humanity to the highest bidder, the rest is irrelevant.For all they know if one side pays better they do not even care about where the mony has originally come from!

Nowadays most of our youth are blinded by the artificial glamour that is the Western media and entertainment industry.
They prefer a half naked western blond bimbo to the hejaab wearing Middle Eastern girl any day as the first one is more likely to give them a hard and enable them to masturbate much better.

That is why we see so much crocodile tears for the 9/11 victims and the Israeli citizens than other human beings. If they make a comment about the right of minorities in Iran or the situation of Iranian people in general, it is only to counter your argument otherwise they do not give a monkey about anyone or anything but themselves.

Most of them even sell their Persian identity and their loyalty to Iran on the drop of a hat, given the right price is offered as most of them are known to their friends and colleagues by their Western nicknames(Reza== rezz Ali= Alen, kamran = Cameron, babak= babi and so on)

To make a plead to someone’s humanity first they have to be human. These guys sold their humanity to piece of paper which says Western Citizen, ages ago.

These are all phony bigots and their hollow claims about Persian identity and Kooroshe kabir is noting but empty slogans as they never have or will act upon it.


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the problem with this letter

by proud iranian (not verified) on

the problem with this letter is, the author is explicitly implying We as Iranians are all anti-plastines!!!!that would be absolutly suprising !!!!turn your tv on ccn or bbc ....for half hour and u will see , what u r saying is aginst every rules and policies commonly accepted as a fact.It has almost bcame a common sense, Iran is the foremost supporter of plastines' cause.Regardless of any of us may think of the current iranian policy toward plastine the facts on the ground wont change, those kids that he is talking about, arent getting support from any where but Iran and so on.. what he is talking about???duuuuuget a life


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a mood change and some thinking perhaps..

by khaste az davari... (not verified) on

Naamjoo sums it up really well here, what is wrong with us a nation... Davari...(Pish) davari... Ta'asob, Ghezavat...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJAf4UrUIQ&feature...


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Mr Maleknaseri ,please do not try to answer all the comments!!!!

by Tahirih (not verified) on

You start your comment about Bahais by saying " I do not know about Bahais" then you pour your wisdom!!!!!!! on us!!!!
Sir please read at least one book(our book) then try to solve our problems with your vast knowledge and elequent tongue!!!!

You can go to www.bahai.org for more information.
regards,
Tahirih


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To: Proud Iranian

by Anonymous Observer (not verified) on

Good call on calling this guy's (Ali Nasri - the author) hiding behind the pseudonym "shameonyou". I have to say that I didn't catch that. The most obvious sign is his singling me out, which is something that he would know, and feel, more than anyone else, as I have been one of his most vocal opponents n refernce to the postings to his article. Again, good call!


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To: Proud Iranian

by Anonymous Observer (not verified) on

Good call on calling this guy's hiding behind the pseudonym "shameonyou". I have to say that I didn't catch that. The most obvious sign is his singling me out, which is something that he would know, and feel, more than anyone else, as I have been one of his most vocal opponents both in refernce to the postings to his article. Again, good call!


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get some help

by proud iranian (not verified) on

the author of this non-sens letter should seek phsycalogical treatment. he has come back to the forum and post some comments under different name "f*** u all"is one of them,in the other one He chose "ARAB" for his post and call us majoos and lower race than arabs(lol). lots of baggages he must have.here is the remedy for you, Ali, go to Takrit over there they got doctors for this specific illness


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Shameonyou

by Anonymous Observer (not verified) on

Wow!!! I have to say that I am extremely honored to be specifically mentioned, apart and separate from the rest of the pack, as the recipient of an individualized “fuck you too” (I think that it was in all CAPS as well) in your very eloquent post. Thank you. It means a lot to me to be addressed as such by a well versed author like you!


Jahanshah Rashidian

IRI stirs the regional crises up

by Jahanshah Rashidian on

حل عادلانه بحران اسرائیل و فلسطین  به صلاح تمام منطقه از جمله ایران است. تشکیل دو دولت مستقل با نظارت سازمان ملل راه حل مقدوری است.
انچه باعث تداوم بحران میشود، وجود بنیادگرائی در دو طرف دعواست.
صهیونیزم و اسلامیزم خواستار دسترسی به تمام سرزمینهای"مقدس" منطقه
هستند. ج.ا نیز با حمایت از اسلامیزم در فلسطین به بحران دامن میزند.
کمک ج.ا از بودجه ملی به حماس و حزب الهه کمک به تداوم بحران در
 منطقه است که اصل سیاست خارجی رژیم از بدو تاسیس با هدف صدور
اسلام سیاسی است.


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REPLY : ABSENCE of HUMANTY & some COMMENTS

by Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on

I appriciate and admire the titles you have choosen. "Absence of Humanity" and also the Title of your previous article. A very nice Farsi. I have read all comments. I am sorry, but I do not find any comment which could be compared intelectually to your explanations. Never the less there is a full serial of statements which are worth to be acknowledged:
1. The Statement: MA RAVAN FORUKHTEGAN. I think it is a passable word for the ones who leave thier homeland searching for a better life. When they do not find it so they feel as if they have sold thier spierit.
2. I think calling the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of Iran just distant is all right. But Forgotten? isolated? Iran has the Raket KAVOSHGAR traying the Satelit OMID sent in the universe. all the world is speaking about amazing happening. Even the media of the self named "free world" have broadcast this news. Iran is a distant country to place where "IRANIAN" is alowed but i think by no means neither isolated nor forgotten.
3. In many comments one can read a lot of personal accuses. But I miss by all of them the proof. better I forget them.
4. Often you read the accusation being an antisemit. I think if one lets Zionism all by side then and only then can calling the palestine occupeying system an occupeying system be interpreted as antisemitism. But these tow subjects are in reality different. Not identical at all.
5. Thereb is also the Question: So what? some one else is absolutly fed up with all tzhese discussions and sends all negogiatores to hell. She/he does not write to hell with you but uses other words. Unaware of the farsi Speech: BEFARMAID; BENESHIN & BETEMARG all three express the same.
6. Then there are all "iranians in torture". without naming a person, without any proof. better I forget this accusation too.
7. The nice words of BABA TAHER E ORYAN ( E BIRUNY?): TA BAAS KODJA KOSHTEH SHAVAD AN KE TOE RA KOSHT. Reading this was just refreshing.
8. I know little about BAHAIs. The ones who report about thier difficulties in thier daily lives in the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN write only they have difficulties for example to beginn with a university study or getting a job by state. So that one will have to ask: Are these single individuals who are accused of being against the constitution? and when the bahai is not an official religion in Islamic Iran? What do? IN the united statescan any body ask the officials for a bishop diploma. and she/He recieves it. anew religion can be based. Example: Scientology. apparently the rules in Islamic Iran are not so simple. United states is named the country of many many possibilities. Iran is in opposit a country with limitted possibilities. what do?
9. some other respectable commentatores just write: "We" want to have our Iran back. I think there is a great doubt that President Ahmadinejad or any other single person can ever be able to fulfiell this wish. No single person guides and posesses the Islamic Republic. Bevor 1978 was Iran in the hands of a small group of individuals who were supported by strangers. so it was possible to cut the Phalanges and armes of the strangers and thier lakeis, flunkies, footmen and srvants left the country or were thrown out away. The ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN do not belong - as far as is appears to me - any more to a small group. Ideally it belongs to all poeple with only official iranian identity, virtually to all human beings and materially to the honorable Iranian nation. To that nation count again - up to my opinion - the ones who have founded thier ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN, are living there and are willing to protect all that whta they have achieved during the last 30 years. Now: if I say: "we" want to have Iran back so we are automatically confronted with a deeply united crowed of Iranians who would tell us: GO HOME. That "WE" which is mentioned in the comment does not exists in the reality anyway.
9. regarding the languages FARSI and ARABIC. Niether one can exist without the other. The ones who have studied scientifically these both langauages know it. better I ask them. Instead advising to mind arabic words.
10. I see again a lot of reproaches naming psychological disorders. I wonder how many psychologists are the frequnt visitors of "IRANIAN".
personal inferiority, being brain washed and like wise words. Better I forget them all. But you better be aware not to get even a bill for all these diagnostics.
11. The palestine occupying system is a out door military base of the not any more so great satan. That system makes no secret of its intention to make war against the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC. The palestinians need help. Now: why should iranians do not help? Russia do not want a war against Iran and delivers whatever Iran has paid for. I think this is the main difference between Russia and that occupying system. russia have no venomous intention against the honorable Iranian nation.
12. The arab nation could not know that it is possible to get rid of satans. so they have not done any thing to help even themselves. It is true that arabs have not ever helped iranians. after the heroious Islamic revolution in Iran have arab nation begann to do something in order being again able to live with honor. They have learned from Iranians. after the journy of Bushy Bushy to ME the conections of arab nations to Iran are powerfully intensified. And that because the arab nations and not those "RAVAN FORUKHTEGAN" arab Politicians want it so.
13. at the end of this timeconsuming lecture i emphasise that reading the article in pure Farsi was a real pleasure to me. some comments are also just nice to read. Even when "go to hell" is written in even more earthy words. In likewise cases i remind me: IN "IRANIAN" is nothing sacred. special items are even less sacred. they are not supposed to be mentioned. Some visitores are uncorrectable any how, just as me. Greeting


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las I checked

by MRX1 (not verified) on

there are twenty two Arab countries out there with total population of what 200 t0 300 million if I am not mistaken.
If those twenty two countries with all their petro dollars can not or do not want to do some thing for their supposedly called palestenian brothers then why is it our concern?
charity starts at home mester! I am more concerned about Iran and Iranian people, including those Iranian that are seperated by aritifical borders that were imposed on us.
Now if you feel very strongly about palestenians, I suggest you send your paycheck to them or voluenteer as one of their fighters. case closed.


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ايشان مثل عيسي

عيسي مسيح (not verified)


ايشان مثل عيسي مسيح ميباشد. تعاليم مسيحيت اينجوري هستش شما اگر كسي زد به طرف راست صورتت برگرد و بگذار يك دونه هم بزنند به طرف چپ, اما فقط براي ما تعريف كن چه جوري بود.


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Nuova Anti-Semitism

by Fred (not verified) on

After reading all the reactions to the two emotionally charged Palestine centric posts by Ali Nasri, one wonders where all these people been the past twenty eight years. The overwhelming majority has taken the humanistic plea of the two posts at face value and in one way or another argues that besides Palestinians, Iran and Iranians, amongst many others are more deserving of this sort of plea. And in justifying their reaction try to set forth their case via ultra nationalistic or care at home first reasoning. Those who have lived under the tyranny of the Islamic Republic are familiar with the drill and are immune to it. It is not that the Palestinians are the concern rather their adversary, the Israelis, are the real target. One could call it nuova Anti-Semitism, the art of hating one via showing unconditional love for its adversary.


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Re-Shameonyou

by Anonymous;-( (not verified) on

Your reprimand of all for in your view their negative reaction to someone’s call for “tolerance” is indeed very noble of you. But by F-ing every one and thing in your admonishment are you setting a good example for “tolerance” for other’s views?


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Fuck you all with your

by Shameonyou (not verified) on

Fuck you all with your stupid comments. Look at yourselves! Look at what you have turned into: A bunch of racist bigots who can't stand someone expressing humanistic views.

You're all just a bunch of retards who think that no one has the right to express his outrage about a situation that the rest of the world is condemning, unless he/she first enumerates one by one all of our complexes and miseries since the fall of the Sassanian.

You're all just a bunch of pseudo-Iranians who are filled with hatred and blind with revenge.

Fuck you all, and the future you want to build for Iran. Fuck the country you want to build if it is founded upon racism and hatred toward another nation. Shame on you all for reacting so venomously to someone who writes of compassion for mankind and basic human values.

This article would have been praised in any other non-Iranian forum. But you "oghdeyi" people just show how backward we are as a nation when you react like that toward someone's call for tolerance.

You deserve nothing more than leaders like Ahmadinejad and Messbah Yazdi. Go fuck yourselves.

And "Anonymous Observer", FUCK YOU TOO.


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خوب که چی؟

Ye Irooni (not verified)


بنا نیست دغدغهء مردم غزه را بر مشکلات و خواسته های مردم ایران الویت دهیم و یا مسائل آنها را مهمتر از رنج دیگر مردم ستمدیدهء جهان بدانیم! آنقدر کافیست که بدانیم که "هر ویرانه نشانی از غیاب انسانیت" است.

خوب که چی؟ حالا می خواهید چکار کنیم؟ قبول. ویرانی غزه نشانه ی غیاب انسانیت است. خوب حالا باید چه کنیم؟ از سفره ی بچه مون بزنیم بفرستیم فلسطین؟

شما ظاهرا دلتون خیلی خوشه و بنظر می رسه نمی دونید این مردم چی کشیدن تو این چند سال. وگرنه با این یادداشت ها نمک روی زخمشون نمی پاشیدید.


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Arabs are undereducated

by proud iranian (not verified) on

Read the article below written by the alsharq aswat newspaper's chief editor
//www.asharqalawsat.com/english/news.asp?sect...


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گوه به گور یاسر

Dariushagah (not verified)


گوه به گور یاسر عرفات و همه ترویستا...منجمله جمهوری کثیف اسلامی... عربه بادیه نشین....


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Mr. Nasri, Iranians, men and women, are daily tortured under

by An Iranian Voice (not verified) on

Islamic rules in Iran. Do you listen to Iranian people? Aren't you ignoring them?

How do you sympathize with our honorable Iranian women who are considered as second class citizens and half of men in their own country? How do you sympathize with honost Iranian women and men who would like to serve their country with Iranian culture in mind but they cann't?

Do you sense our pains?