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Mr. Imani : When was the last time you were in Iran?

Imani says: "I am concerned about the welfare of the Iranian people under the yolk of the most fanatical, ruthless, merciless thugs, called the Islamic Republic."

When was the last time you were in Iran?

Anonymous-2, don't waste your time

Don't waste your energy telling this guy and his supporting bunch about God and Islam.

All decent people on this site skip his articles and just read the comments, if they are entertaining.

The more you engage him and their kind in discussions, they think that they have gained some value.

Iran is called the Islamic Republic,not the Jewish Republic

Iran is called the Islamic Republic, not the Jewish Republic, nor a Christian Republic. What Israel does to protect its population from the Islamists is her business. I am concerned about the welfare of the Iranian people under the yolk of the most fanatical, ruthless, merciless thugs, called the Islamic Republic. They are the most serious threat to the survival of Iran. Israel has the right to exit and has the right to protect itself from the murderous suicide bombers. But, our immediate problem is the fundamentalism in Iran.

The Islamic Republic is the greatest threat to the peace in the Middle East. They work around the clock to suffocate anyone who dares to challenge this brutal, psychopathic anti-Iranian regime. When religion crosses the line that separates it from the state, serious problems present themselves. In the case of Islam, the rule of the people, by the people, for the people is supplanted by the rule of Allah, by the faithful to Allah, for the pleasure of Allah.

Muslims, by belief and practice, are the most blatant violators of human rights. We hardly need to detail here Muslims’ systemic cruel treatment of the unbelievers, women of all persuasions, and any and all minorities across the board. To Muslims, human rights have a different meaning, and its protective provisions are reserved strictly for Muslims—primarily for Muslim men. Just a couple of examples should suffice for now.

Oppression of women, for one, is so systemic in Islam that to this day women are, at best, second class citizens under Islamic law. Saudi Arabia, the custodian of Islamdom, denies women the right to drive, vote or hold elective offices—the most basic rights of citizens in democratic societies.

For another, no non-Islamic literature is allowed in Saudi Arabia. A visiting Christian, for instance, is denied to enter the Kingdom with a Bible. Further, severe punishment is meted out to anyone daring to disagree with Islam or espouse a different religion. Iran’s resurgent Shiism often vies with Saudi Arabia in its mistreatment of religious and non-religious minorities. To the fanatical ruling gang in Iran, it is their brand of Islam or disenfranchisement of rights of citizenship and even death for the “sin” of apostasy. And of course, there is no point at all in talking about the savage Islamic Taliban.

Respect for the rule of law, as it is understood and practiced by civilized people, is an instrument of convenience to be used to advantage and to be violated when it is not, for the Muslim. A Muslim believes in a different law—the Sharia: a set of stone-age rules. Violation of the non-Muslim laws, therefore, is no violation at all to a Muslim.

No Sir, I am not smoking, you are delusional to think that Islam will last in Iran. Islam is done, it’s finished. I am simply telling the truth. Khamenei of Iran is not called “Caliph.” He is called the “Supreme Guide.” The Saudi King is just another Caliph vessel of the “divine.” These Islamic despots are every bit as vile as the Hitlers, the Stalins, the Pol Pots, and the Mussolinis. The government these Islamic autocrats head is infested to the core with the Islamic disease of oppression, corruption and the absence of accountability to the people.

Leave other countries’ problems alone and try to save your own countrymen. Well, if you are part of system, you are also part of the problem. Haven’t you heard what the people in Iran have been saying: “Felestin o rahaa kon, fekri be haale maa kon.”

Go back and read your own article before!

Who do you think you are fooling? Not only is this article but every article that you have written is against Islam and Muslims. What religion do you believe the majority of the Iranian people follow? Who do you think is their Prophet? Who do you think they love among the companions of their Prophet? And you have lied about every single one of these figures and blasted their religion in the vilest way!!

You are not speaking to the people of Israel, if you are I can understand why you publish most of your articles on pro-Zionist web-sites and Jewish news papers. The the same group who are proponents of a war with Iran and harsher sanctions. You then say you are speaking on behalf of the Iranian people. Iranian people have no interest in having the bombs of liberation to fall on their head. Nor do they respect and appreciate anyone who offends their belief, rightfully so, as no people from any religion appreciate being offended. .

I dare you to make such statements about Israel, Judaism, or Christianity. I dare you to speak about the violence and genocide being committed by Israel against the Palestinian people; I dare you to speak about who created Al-Qaeda, who funded the Talibans and every single extremists group out there!

I dare you to give an unbiased account of how the Western world and colonialist killed, murdered, mutiliated, beheaded, raped millions of Muslims; and then walked away with the booty. The problem of our time is not the Muslim world, it is the violence created by the West.

You actually think if you broadcasted this b.s. from the U.S. propaganda radio VOA or sent in fliers to Iran with this rubbish you are going to win the hearts and minds of the Iranian people?

You consider yourself, the savior of the Iranian people from Islam. You are smoking something.....

Iranians may hate Khomeini, and may hate this regime, but don't make a mistake they don't hate their religion and they sure don't buy off on your false account of Islam and Muslims.

Individuals like you who go around preaching this kind of hatemongering rhetoric are only inciting hatred, division among people, provoking others to take action against the Muslim world, and innocent Muslim people - yes, this is not what Zoroaster stood for; take off your mask - and have the guts not to hide behind another religion!

Most of us have read and seen your articles on every single web-site. So we know what you are all about! Go back to Jihad Watch - or any other anti-Islam web-sites all of whom cut and paste the same information; to demonstrate that Islam is some bloodthirsty religion and that Muslims are potential terrorists who are hostile towards democracy, women, Jews and Christians and want to take over the world!.

There must be something wrong with you if you don't think you are demonizing 1.4 billion people, and inciting people to fear and hate Muslims!

It is futile to argue your points; as any knowledgeable reader already knows the truth – and the truth is not what you are spreading; what you are spreading is called - disinformation!!

Mr. Wilders words

Mr Wilders’ contribution to the parliamentary debate on Islamic activism:

Madam Speaker, allow me, first, to express my sincere thanks to you personally for having planned a debate on Islam on the very day of my birthday. I could not have wished for a nicer present! Madam Speaker, approximately 1400 years ago war was declared on us by an ideology of hate and violence which arose at the time and was proclaimed by a barbarian who called himself the Prophet Mohammed. I am referring to Islam.

Madam Speaker, let me start with the foundation of the Islamic faith, the Koran. The Koran’s core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war – a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30).

Madam Speaker, the West has no problems with Jews or Christians, but it does have problems with Islam. It is still possible, even today, for Muslims to view the Koran, which they regard as valid for all time, as a licence to kill. And that is exactly what happens. The Koran is worded in such a way that its instructions are addressed to Muslims for eternity, which includes today’s Muslims. This in contrast to texts in the Bible, which is formulated as a number of historical narratives, placing events in a distant past. Let us remind ourselves that it was Muslims, not Jews or Christians, who committed the catastrophic terrorist attacks in New York, Madrid and London; and that it was no coincidence that Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered by a Muslim, Mohammed Bouyeri.

Madam Speaker, I acknowledge that there are people who call themselves Muslims and who respect our laws. My party, the Freedom Party, has nothing against such people, of course. However, the Koran does have something against them. For it is stated in the Koran in Sura 2, verse 85, that those believers who do not believe in everything the Koran states will be humiliated and receive the severest punishment; which means that they will roast in Hell. In other words, people who call themselves Muslims but who do not believe, for example, in Sura 9, verse 30, which states that Jews and Christians must be fought, or, for example, in Sura 5, verse 38, which states that the hand of a thief must be cut off, such people will be humiliated and roast in Hell. Note that it is not me who is making this up. All this can be found in the Koran. The Koran also states that Muslims who believe in only part of the Koran are in fact apostates, and we know what has to happen to apostates. They have to be killed.

Madam Speaker, the Koran is a book that incites to violence. I remind the House that the distribution of such texts is unlawful according to Article 132 of our Penal Code. In addition, the Koran incites to hatred and calls for murder and mayhem. The distribution of such texts is made punishable by Article 137(e). The Koran is therefore a highly dangerous book; a book which is completely against our legal order and our democratic institutions. In this light, it is an absolute necessity that the Koran be banned for the defence and reinforcement of our civilisation and our constitutional state. I shall propose a second-reading motion to that effect.

Madam Speaker, there is no such thing as “moderate Islam”. As Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan said the other day, and I quote, “There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it”. Islam is in pursuit of dominance. It wishes to exact its imperialist agenda by force on a worldwide scale (8:39). This is clear from European history. Fortunately, the first Islamic invasion of Europe was stopped at Poitiers in 732; the second in Vienna in 1683. Madam Speaker, let us ensure that the third Islamic invasion, which is currently in full spate, will be stopped too in spite of its insidious nature and notwithstanding the fact that, in contrast to the 8th and 17th centuries, it has no need for an Islamic army because the scared “dhimmis” in the West, also those in Dutch politics, have left their doors wide open to Islam and Muslims.

Apart from conquest, Madam Speaker, Islam is also bent on installing a totally different form of law and order, namely Sharia law. This makes Islam, apart from a religion for hundreds of millions of Muslims also, and in particular, a political ideology (with political/constitutional/Islamic basic values, etc). Islam is an ideology without any respect for others; not for Christians, not for Jews, not for non believers and not for apostates. Islam aims to dominate, subject, kill and wage war.

Madam Speaker, the Islamic incursion must be stopped. Islam is the Trojan Horse in Europe. If we do not stop Islamification now, Eurabia and Netherabia will just be a matter of time. One century ago, there were approximately 50 Muslims in the Netherlands. Today, there are about 1 million Muslims in this country. Where will it end? We are heading for the end of European and Dutch civilisation as we know it. Where is our Prime Minister in all this? In reply to my questions in the House he said, without batting an eyelid, that there is no question of our country being Islamified. Now, this reply constituted a historical error as soon as it was uttered. Very many Dutch citizens, Madam Speaker, experience the presence of Islam around them. And I can report that they have had enough of burkas, headscarves, the ritual slaughter of animals, so called honour revenge, blaring minarets, female circumcision, hymen restoration operations, abuse of homosexuals, Turkish and Arabic on the buses and trains as well as on town hall leaflets, halal meat at grocery shops and department stores, Sharia exams, the Finance Minister’s Sharia mortgages, and the enormous overrepresentation of Muslims in the area of crime, including Moroccan street terrorists.

In spite of all this, Madam Speaker, there is hope. Fortunately. The majority of Dutch citizens have become fully aware of the danger, and regard Islam as a threat to our culture. My party, the Freedom Party, takes those citizens seriously and comes to their defence.
Many Dutch citizens are fed up to the back teeth and yearn for action. However, their representatives in The Hague are doing precisely nothing. They are held back by fear, political correctness or simply electoral motives. This is particularly clear in the case of PvdA, the Dutch Labour Party, which is afraid of losing Muslim voters. The Prime Minister said in Indonesia the other day that Islam does not pose any danger. Minister Donner believes that Sharia law should be capable of being introduced in the Netherlands if the majority want it. Minister Vogelaar babbles about the future Netherlands as a country with a Judeo Christian Islamic tradition, and that she aims to help Islam take root in Dutch society. In saying this, the Minister shows that she has obviously gone stark raving mad. She is betraying Dutch culture and insulting Dutch citizens. Madam Speaker, my party, the Freedom Party, demands that Minister Vogelaar retract her statement. If the Minister fails to do so, the Freedom Party parliamentary group will withdraw its support for her. No Islamic tradition must ever be established in the Netherlands: not now and also not in a few centuries’ time.

Madam Speaker, let me briefly touch on the government’s response to the WRR [Netherlands Scientific Council for Government Policy] report. On page 12 of its response, the government states that Islam is not contrary to democracy or human rights. All I can say to that is that things can’t get much more idiotic than this.

Madam Speaker, it is a few minutes to twelve. If we go on like this, Islam will herald the end of our Western civilisation as well as Dutch culture.

I would like to round off my first-reading contribution with a personal appeal to the Prime Minister on behalf of a great many Dutch citizens: stop the Islamification of the Netherlands!
Mr Balkenende, a historic task rests on your shoulders. Be courageous. Do what many Dutch citizens are screaming out for. Do what the country needs. Stop all immigration from Muslim countries, ban all building of new mosques, close all Islamic schools, ban burkas and the Koran. Expel all criminal Muslims from the country, including those Moroccan street terrorists that drive people mad. Accept your responsibility! Stop Islamification!

Enough is enough, Mr Balkenende. Enough is enough.

Farhad Kashani

Farhad Kashani:

First of all, I suggest that, before taking a shot at my comment, which is backed up by thousands of pages of books, articles, historical analysis, etc., first condemn the hateful language that Imani uses.

Criticizing is one thing, using the most hateful language that he uses either in his articles or in his responses to people is a completely different thing. Criticize him for the most minor thing, and he attacks you with some of the worst language that you can see anywhere. The stench of his hatret and racism is simply too strong. He misinterprets, fabricates, and writes all sorts of despicable things just to advance his "agenda." He called one of the people that had protested his article a "sub-human," precisely the language that the Nazis used for Jews, the slave masters used for African-Americans, the colonialists used for African, southeast Asians, and Latin Americans, etc.

Secondly, each and every one of those that I listed were committed by Charistian nations. It does not matter whether they were officially done under the name of Christianity although, most, if not, all of them were done EXPLICITLY under that name. Besides, where did the moality of Christian people of the West go when their governments were committing all these crimes? How come muslim masses are condemned for crimes committed by a few, but we do not want to condemn Christian masses for doing nothing to prevent their governments from committing all those horrible acts? And these Christians live in democratic societies where they actually have the power to prevent their governments from committing those crimes, whereas most muslims live in undemocratic nations, often supported by the US and the West.

Tens of thousands of leftists in Latin America were murdered by thuggish regimes supported by the US, and justified to the population because "they were Godless." All sorts of crimes were committed by the West during the cold war, most often under the name of "fighting the Godless communists," including killing two million Vietnamese. George Bush explicitly said that God told him to attack Afghaistan and Iraq, with the result that we know. Ronald Reagan often invoked God to justify the aggression of his administration in Central and South America. I ask: What God were they talking about?

Third, just imagine if one of those horrible crimes - crimes against humanity - had been carried out by a Muslim nation, not in the name of Islam, but under any other name. That nation would have been attacked and completely destroyed.

Enough is enough. From now on I respond to hateful, racist "analyses" of this man who knows nothing about Islam, but constantly and savagely attacks it and all muslims.

Anonymous-2,

Anonymous-2,

How ignorant you IRI agents really are. The founder of Islamic terrorism in Iran, your mentor, Khomeini, said this:

“We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.”

How dare you, (you bi-vojdan) accuse me of not being on the side of the children of Iran. Look, the whole Islamic system in Iran is illegitimate and they MUST go.

The Islamic Republic has been denying and violating a long-suffering people all its human rights. They are guilty of beating, imprisoning and torturing hundreds of brave women who participating in a peaceful demonstration pleading for equal family rights, on the recent International Day of Women.

Where is your vojdan when the regime executes underage children and women for petty crimes; for voicing their resentments of this bloodthirsty vampire calls itself, the Islamic Republic? Why don’t you protest?

The Islamic Republic does not represent the Iranian people. They are a usurper of power. They are guilty of transforming a noble nation into a world pariah.

*They are denying and violating a long-suffering people all its human rights.

* They are guilty of beating, imprisoning and torturing a few dozen women who braved participating in a peaceful demonstration pleading for equal family rights, on the recent International Day of Women.

* They systematically beat, imprison, and torture all manners of citizens, from school teachers to students to union workers, for daring to raise their voices against the plight to which they have subjected them.

* They savagely beat and haul to their dungeons of torture and death over a thousand of the tens of thousands of teachers who had recently gathered in front of the parliament requesting nothing more than their back pay and living wages.

* They direct systematic genocidal measures against all non-Shia religious minorities, with Baha'is as prime target.

* They arrest some Christians, even their Quran calls "People of the Book," for observing Christmas.

* They implement barbaric practices of stoning, hanging and amputations for those who are convicted of crimes in their kangaroo courts without due process. They even imprison those few lawyers who rise in the defense of the innocent.

* They plunder, mismanage and dole out Iran's national wealth with the result that the great majority of the people are living in poverty. Iranian women are forced into prostitution to survive or simply sold as sex slaves in Persian Gulf states.

* Their fascist misrule of nearly three decades has driven millions of Iran's best children to four corners of the world. Hundreds of thousands of educated Iranians are compelled to continue the exodus, depriving Iran of the sorely-needed talents at home.

* They spend a fortune on the nuclear program that you claim is only aimed for peaceful purposes, while turning Iran into little more than a gas station nation, with its precious oil wealth squandered and its facilities on the verge of collapse through neglect.

* They have created a suffocating social atmosphere that has driven masses of the people to the use of hard drugs as a way of numbing their pain.

* They look far and wide to support any and all terrorists. Their delusional theology mandates the creation of horrific conditions in the world so that their Hidden Imam is compelled to appear and establish his rule.

* They spare no efforts at sabotaging any settlement between the Palestinians and Israelis. They arm and train all Palestinian factions such as Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and any and all that come.

* They direct similar criminal schemes on their eastern flank, in Afghanistan. They consider any democratic system as the enemy of Islamofascism, and rightfully so.

* They work ceaselessly, expand Iran's stolen funds, and do all they can in support of their Shia co-fascists Hezbollah in Lebanon.

* Their hands are dripping with the blood of thousands of Iraqis, victims of their bloodthirsty kin mercenaries aiming to kill a budding democracy in Iraq next door.

* They supply their mercenaries with armor-piercing projectiles for killing and maiming the coalition forces in Iraq. They cowardly killing by proxy, using these roadside planted bombs, has taken the lives of nearly 200 Americans.

* They interpret the highly subdued reactions of the coalition to their savage actions as indications of weakness. So, they find it in themselves to venture into direct confrontation by capturing lightly-armed British sailors and marines in Iraqi waters.

Anonymous-2, you are just as guilty of the same crimes for supporting a terrorist regime. I suggest you take your innuendoes to different buyers.

No need to read his articles, if you'v read one you'v read all!!

If you have read one of his articles you have read them all. It is the same rubbish over and over again.

Then he hides behind the noble symbol of Zoroaster whose central message is "Good Words, Good Deeds, and Good thoughts"; opposite to everything this person stands for!!

You can't fool the intelligent reader only the ignorant, only the racists, only the bigots, only those who are filled with hatred and vengeance.

You and all other extremists (whether they are Islamic extremists, Christian extremists, Jewish extremists, atheist and others) are two sides of the same coin.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but not to his own facts. You don't produce scholarly work, but merely propaganda and false information.

If such a paper would have been handed to a professor at any university, I can assure you it would be shred to pieces and the student would have received an F – for writing an inaccurate, false paper based on the students own prejudice and biased opinion. This paper wouldn’t past muster with any scholar or any individual with knowledge of Islam!

You are also definitely not on the side of the Iranian people who are over 98 percent Muslims and who love and respect their Prophet and their religion. I am not speaking on behalf of some Iranians who are just as ignorant about Islam and filled with the same hatred – most of whom live in the West.

Amil, in fact you are siding with the enemies of the Iranian people, and Iran; the Zionists and the neocons. Those who are of the same belief and have made it their mission to propagate such false information against Islam and Iran of the likes of: Bill O'Reilly from Fox News, Ann Coulter, Daniel Pipes, David Horowitz, Pastor John Hagee, Podhoretz a long list of hardcore Evangelical Christians; right wingers, Zionists and Pro-Israeli groups.

I hardly think that any intelligent person would consider this group as a credible source on Islam nor are they an honorable group!! The picture becomes very clear they are all anti-Iran and anti-Islam. Bomb, Bomb, Bomb destroy, kill, wipe out, is their motto!! Now this is far from what Zoroaster has said, please don’t dishonor His name!!!.

Once again we have people hiding behind another great religion to promote hatred, and extremism – Amil you are such a hypocrite!!.

Just like we have to rip the religious mask of terrorists who hide behind the guise of Islam; we have to also un-mask the West’s warriors of aggression, hatred, and racists who hide behind the guise of freedom, democracy and tolerance!

A bit off topic Mr.

A bit off topic Mr. Imani

This is a MUST READ article:

Geert Wilders' short film Fitna. Looking at the Wikipedia entry for Fitna, we see the following:

Fitna is an Arabic word, generally regarded as very difficult to translate but at the same time is considered to be an all-encompassing word referring to schism, secession, upheaval and anarchy at once. It is often used to refer to civil war, disagreement and division within Islam and specifically alludes to a time involving trials of faith, similar to the Tribulation in Christian eschatology. The term originally referred to the refining of metal to remove dross [1], but became common in apocalyptic writings and is often used to refer to the First Islamic civil war, in 656–661 CE, a prolonged struggle for the caliphate after the 656 assassination of the caliph Uthman ibn Affan. The Second Fitna, or Second Islamic civil war, is usually identified as the 683–685 CE conflict among the Umayyads for control of the caliphate. The third one refers to the taifas in the end of the Caliph of Córdoba's rule.

This is a meaning beyond simple trial or test, and hits straight to the heart of the problem in trying to apologize or veer off from confronting a religion that puts violent ideas and ideals into action. Within Islam, then, those that utilize violent ways and means are practicing something beyond jihad: they are practicing Fitna upon their fellow Muslims.

They do so by radicalizing their views and holding ahistoric views of their religious past in order to glorify it beyond all bounds of reason. When brought to an unreasoning and unreasonable height, one that cannot be touched by reason but only by passion, those seeking to cleans Islam of those who are considered 'moderates' is done by instilling fear and hatred of all of Islam. Their aim is global domination, but to get the foot soldiers to accomplish this they need to go beyond simple disdain or verbal neutrality of their fellow believers. To do that they attack those outside the religion and proclaim them all as the enemy of Islam if they will not come to it.

Every time we hear an excuse to act in a barbaric fashion and it is put into terms of someone else's fault, be it Israel, Arab Nations hosting Western groups, or even some ancient grievance against the Crusades we see Fitna at work. By not denouncing these things as unreasonable, by giving cover to acts of inhuman carnage Islam is not only speaking to those outside of it but is holding up a mirror to itself and letting those who do NOT actively support the violence and destruction: "This...

//ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2008/03/fitna-clea...

Great article? Not.

This author can not give a good answer to any reasonable question and he makes up a lot of fantasy remarks like 90% of Iranians are against the government and the government's days are numbered and so on.

It is not important who this author is or whether someone compensates him for writing these articles, the important point is that his articles are without solid facts, extremist in nature, rude and sometimes childish.

I guess people who read it can judge for themselves.

Mr. Imani, great artile as

Mr. Imani, great artile as always. Your idea represents the true liberal, democratic in nature, ideology of people Inside of Iran. Forget about this misguided ill intended leftists and IRI applogists who make up stories to prove an outdated and destructive argument in favor of far left and Islamic movements around the world.

Mammad, why do you have to

Mammad, why do you have to resort to making up stories to prove a point? Why are we Iranians have become like that? None of the 14 incidents that you mentioned was done in the name of Christianity and you know it ! The crimes of the middle ages done by European governments were done in the name of Christianity, yes, but not those. To narrow the issue down a little bit more, let me point out the claims you fabricated:, you wrote” The Christian West and the Jewish Israel both supported the most evil regime on the face of earth, namely, the apartheid regime in South Africa.” Complete falsehood and distortion of history. The U.S and others totally boycotted South Africa. You wrote” 5. The Christian US supported all sorts of dictatorships in Iran, and in south America.” We are responsible for the governments we have, not others. When are we going to realize that? You wrote” . The Christian, church-going Ronald Reagan created the Afghan Mojahedin, proclaimed them the moral equivalents of the American Revolutionaries, and armed them to fight the Soviets. Once that war was finished, the Church-going Bush, Sr., left them on their own, and they became Al Qaeda to attack the US on 9/11. It is, of course, Islam's fault that the Mojahedin made the transition to AlQaeda, not the US that armed the Mojahedin, not Saudi Arabia (a US ally) that paid for it, and not Pakistan (another US ally) that trained them.” That’s a pathetic analysis of how things work. The U.S helped them to fight the Soviets, not to attack its main symbols. I mean how hard is it to understand that? Are you saying the U.S trained them to hijack airplanes and crash them into buildings in New York and Washington? And in the name of Islam? You wrote” 13. The Christian US supported Pol Pot and his killing fields that murdered 2 million, giving his regime a seat at the UN, simply because it was against Vietnam.’ I’ve never seen a more fabrication of truth such as this one. So our conspiracy theory loving Iranians are claiming right now that the U.S supported far right facsists communist regimes as well?!!! Your anti U.S rethoric is astonishing. Let me tell you a simple fact about “Chrtistian” U.S. In this Christian U.S, the number one growing religion is Islam. Muslims enjoy far more greater freedoms here than they would ever enjoy in any Islamic Country. They have been coming to this country for close to 100 years now and despite all the leftist, misinformed, misguided propaganda you guys put out there with regards to mistreatment of Muslims in the U.S these days, more and more Muslim immigrants are flocking to this country. You know what all this means? This country does not act as a “Christian Crusader” like you guys claim it does. In a “Christian Crusader” country, no other religion is allowed to exist and members of other faiths are subjected to all kinds of oppression up to killing. Maybe you gonna cook up a story about U.S killing mass number of Muslims in this contry too? !!! your logic is pathetic and dangerous.

Mr. Imani, when was the last time you were in Iran?

Imani says, "OK, I agree, Al Qaeda is a militant and terrorist organization. Everyone on earth knows that. So what does that have anything to do with the Islamic terrorists ruling Iran? Iran is the epicenter of terror at the moment. 90 percent of the Iranians want to replace this Islamofascist regime. Can you tell us how we go about it?"

Mr. Imani I happen to believe that Wahabi Islammic extremists are much more dangerous than the 10 percent (assuming your statistics above) Iranian Muslims. They also outnumber Iranian Muslims by several order of magnitude, they have way much stronger global reach, ...etc!
Unlike our past two conversations I suspect this time we have a big disagreement gap! ... so let me ask you this question: When was the last time you were in Iran?

Anonym7

OK, I agree, Al Qaeda is a militant and terrorist organization. Everyone on earth knows that. So what does that have anything to do with the Islamic terrorists ruling Iran? Iran is the epicenter of terror at the moment. 90 percent of the Iranians want to replace this Islamofascist regime. Can you tell us how we go about it?

With that in mind, the Islamic Republic of Iran is the greatest mega-murderer in recent history, killing thousands of people a year without any due process. The world is a laboratory where the experiment with Islam shows irrefutable results. To the extent that Islam rules any society, that society is stagnant, backward thinking, repressive and violent. The Islamic Republic of Iran represents the cutting edge for the newly petrodollar invigorated Islam. It is determined to complete its task of ending the world of “Dar-ul-Harb”—the non-Muslim world to be warred upon—and establishing the “Dar-ul-Solh,” or “Dar-ul-Salam”—the Muslim world of the Ummeh under the rule of the Mahdi. If achieving this aim hinges on the conflagration of the Third World War, the mullahs are happy to make it happen.

sure, let's not get distracted

Imani says, "CIA asset Tim Osmond...aka Osama Bin Laden is also part of the CIA operative ....
Let’s don’t get distracted from the subject of this thread."

sure, let's not get distracted, almost all your article is about Islam. As you are very aware currently the most extremist and intolerant sect with clear international agenda and objective is the Wahabi sect (Alqaeda, Taliban, ... etc) ... I don't think I need to convince you about their aggressiveness in Europe and elsewhere. On the other hand Islam in Iran has gotten weaker and absolute majority of Iranians were not nearly as serious Muslims in the first place! ... don't you think you should apply your anti Islamic passion somewhere else?

Mr. Anonym7

I admit that America is not perfect. No entrepenural entity is perfect. There are many US policies that I disagree with including removal of Mussadegh and also installing Khomeini. CIA asset Tim Osmond...aka Osama Bin Laden is also part of the CIA operative. That is part of the public information. In fact, US did us a favor to dismantle Ben Laden, the sworn enemy of the Persians and Saddam Hussein who invaded our country. If you need more information, just use the Google.

Let’s don’t get distracted from the subject of this thread.

Mr. Imani answer Bang Man's Question

Mr. Imani what about US role in creation of Taliban and empowerment of Alqaeda?
Look, he is not the first person who is asking you that.

Mr. Bang Man

Mr. Bang Man,

I do not know what it is that you don’t understand. There is no ambiguity on my part. I don’t hide behind words and speak the truth. I have said time and again that Islam does not work with the Persian mentality. We are not Arabs. We have a marvelous culture and a wonderful history which is enviable of the world. We have produced many geniuses despite being forced to accept an alien cult. I think Iranians are one of the most intelligent breeds of mankind. If only they leave Islam, there won’t be a limit of what they can do.

Look, Islam was forced on us and we had no choice but to say yes to this cult of death. But time has changed. We can say no to it now. At least study Islam and if you still would like to remain a Muslim, more power to you as long as you don’t force it on others.

The dictionary defines religion the expression of man’s belief and reverence for a superhuman power recognized as the creator and governor of the universe.” By this definition Islam qualifies as religion, so do numberless others. A definition this broad is ambiguous and must be further defined with the specific tenets and practices of the belief.

Simply because someone or some people say that they believe in a superhuman deity and revere him, is the belief accorded the privileged status of religion?

It is generally assumed that religion addresses issues of importance to daily life as well as matters that transcend it. Religion is thought to exercise a civilizing influence by ordering the social life, promoting spirituality, as well as advancing an array of human virtues. Zoroaster, for instance, based his faith on the triad of goodly thoughts, goodly speech and goodly deeds: Moses framed the fundamentals of his faith in the Ten Commandments; and Jesus placed love at the core of his religion.

Many people adhere to religion for providing them with comfort and a compass in life. It is these assumed benevolent features of religion that confer it special status. Yet concern with religion overreaching has led societies to enact safeguards against that possibility. Some, for instance, feared that Christ was a rebellious Jew aiming to challenge the ruling Romans. Perhaps to assuage this fear, Christ emphatically proclaimed, “Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” To this day, there are those who still believe that the Christ was a mere social revolutionary.

In the case of Islam there is no ambiguity at all. The mosque and the state were one and the same from the very start. During his lifetime, Muhammad embodied in his person all three branches of worldly secular governance—the legislative, the judiciary and the executive—as well as the religious domain. As a messenger of Allah, he transmitted Allah’s laws, adjudicated according to those laws and implemented Allah’s design. He also prescribed a set of religious instructions for the spiritual life of the faithful.

After Muhammad, the Islamic rule was continued by Caliphs and Imams. To this day, wherever it is able, Islam governs as the state, either directly as is the case in Saudi Arabia, or indirectly as practiced in places such as the Islamic Republic of Iran.

When religion crosses the line that separates it from the state, serious problems present themselves. In the case of Islam, the rule of the people, by the people, for the people is supplanted by the rule of Allah, by the faithful to Allah, for the pleasure of Allah.

Other problems arise. Liberty, deeply cherished by democracies, is replaced by submission—unquestioning obedience and adherence to the dictates and precepts of the all-knowing and all-wise Allah. It is this total form of submission that, among other things, prompted the Muslims to systematically burn libraries of the lands they invaded. They justified their action by contending that the Quran, the comprehensive unerring book of Allah, contained all perfect knowledge that humanity needs. To this day, in places where Islam rules, many books are banned, newspapers and magazines are systematically either censored or shut down, and other non-print media are methodically blocked.

The contempt for free inquiry is encapsulated in the statement of Muhammad, “Al-elmo noghtatan katharoho al-jaheloon”—Knowledge is only one dot, expanded by the ignorant.

Once liberty is surrendered for submission, a host of serious consequences present themselves. The individual becomes little more than a passive obedient vessel of Allah and his perspective of himself and life drastically changes. Once he submits to the all-powerful, all-knowing, then he is absolved of the responsibility of having to chart his own way in life.

There is considerable allure in submission to a power that is willing and able to take care of the person. It is not a bad arrangement. The problem is that all past claimants have invariably been proven as either fraud or failures in honoring their part of the bargain. Islam is no exception. A cursory glance is enough to show the condition of Muhammad’s flock. In spite of huge material wealth, Muslims in the oil-rich countries are imprisoned in the paralyzing mentality of submission and all the terrible ancillaries that go with it.

There is no reason to believe that Muslims have inferior intelligence. Their inferior existence is strictly a function of the primitive doctrine of Islam: a doctrine of nihilism, ignorance, and violence that denigrates this life and fixes the starry eye of the faithful on the next life. A case in point is the Islamic madrasas in places like Pakistan. Never mind the girls. Girls are not in the calculus—women are incidental in Islam.
Consider the boys. Millions of young boys are enrolled in madrasas—religious boarding schools—learning very little beside memorizing and reciting the Quran. This is a case of total submission: Islam at its best, as championed by the oil-money-flushed Saudi patrons of the Wahhabi sect.

Sadly enough, instead of Muslims marching out of the suffocating swamps of submission to the meadow of liberty, Allah’s faithful aim to drag the rest of humanity into the deadly Islamic quagmire. Islam may have been an improvement to the life of the savages that roamed the Arabian deserts some 1400 years ago. The 21st century world is not willing to surrender to the clearly failed and failing Islamic experiment, simply because of the claim that it is the one and only true religion of Allah.

Isn't it intriguing that The

Isn't it intriguing that The rules of the gangsters with guns to hostages' heads represents "democracy" and "sovereignty" of the hostages in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

If the Islamic Republic is so popular, then why not have a free election with all parties even the non-Islami one participating in that process????

HNN, History News Network

HNN, History News Network Because the Past is the Present, and the Future too.

What Is the Difference Between Islam and Islamism?

By Melvin E. Matthews, Jr

Mr. Matthews is a free-lance writer.

“Panhandling” is defined as

to accost and beg from.

to obtain by accosting and begging from someone.

You are an inverted Akhond: Just because you make different
rounds and sing a different tone, it does not make you any different.
Panhandling is still panhandling.

You Mr. Imani seem to be partial to the Jews. So, as you make your rounds, you keep on saying “hail the Jew”. Jews or Moslems are same more or less.

I have no problem with any one criticizing Islam as it should be. But you do not merely criticize but you preach hate.

Regarding your relgion, it best can be summed as >>>

Regarding your argument, It was best refute by Mr. Nema Milaninia

Agreeing to sharply disagree >>>

Prior to WWII, Hitler claimed that Jews were
the enemy of the Aryan race. In the same fashion Mr. Imani claims that
Muslims and Islam is the enemy of the world. Hitler also blamed Jews
for Austria’s crisis. In, again, the same fashion Mr. Imani blames
Islam for destroying Iran, both historically and modernly. Hitler also
collapsed his own political enemies with anti-Semitism by claiming that
the Communists and Jews were in cahoots with one another.

Mr.
Imani seems to also collapse his political hatred for the Iranian
government with anti-Islamism, presuming that the two are not mutually
exclusive. In his entire article Mr. Imani attacks Ahmadinejad for
resembling Hitler. Ironically, in his distate for Ahmadinejad and
Hitler, Mr. Imani has done nothing more than demonstrate that he is
more similar to them than they could possibly be with each other. At
least Ahmadinejad never called Judiasm an evil religion. It’s never a
good thing when a dictator appears more tolerant than you are.

If you want to speck the truth, than tell the entire truth ...

Tell us about USA and Israel and thier role in creating Al Qaida. Tell us about USA and Israeli terrorists ... I do not expect you to do so since half-truth is your relgion and TRUTH the entire TRUTH is aginst your relgion.

kamangir

Ferdosi is taking bout ahkhoonds

"Ze Irano, torkano tazian

Nejadi padid ayad dar mian

Na dehghano torko tazi bovad

Sokhanan be kerdare bazi bovad."

Amazing powers of prediction

Amil Imani, 

Saying "The mullahs’ days are, however, numbered" is quite a statement.

I think everyone here what to know what that number is!

Dear Anonymous 5,

It is nice to hear some sound judgments here. Let’s talk about Moderate Islam: Moderate Islam is a wedge that will jam open the door to Jihad, and "evil will triumph when good Muslims do nothing." The great majority of Muslims are not adherents of the radical line. Yet, because the Islamists wage their war under the name of Islam, they receive immense direct and indirect support from the rank-and-file ordinary Muslims. It is this support of moderate Muslims that keeps the Jihadists alive. And it is the Jihadists who intend to show no mercy to any and all who do not share their theology, be they Muslims or not.

For the record, all Muslims, moderates, radicals, Shiite, Sunnis and other sects and sub-sects of Islam are in unanimous agreement that the Quran is the word of “Allah.” All Muslims are also in agreement that “Allah” spoke through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammad. Allah declares, “The book is not to be doubted."

To be a loyal and faithful Muslim, one must adhere to and perform many rituals, as specified in the Quran by Allah and the Hadiths/Sunna, every waking moment of his entire life. Disobeying these rituals does not make one a moderate Muslim, but rather it would make him a non-Muslim, facing an uncertain future.

[They who deny the Quran]: "They have incurred Allah's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers..." Quran 2:89

“If you doubt what We have revealed to Our servant, produce one chapter comparable to it. Call upon your idols to assist you, if what you say be true. But if you fail (as you are sure to fail) then guard yourselves against the Fire whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the unbelievers. Quran 2:23-5

“Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.” Quran 9:73

"That which is revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase the wickedness and unbelief of many among them. But do not grieve for the unbelievers" Quran (5:69).

The jihadists have searched the scripture and have selectively chosen those statements and precedents that they could use to legitimize their violent and primitive agenda. The Jihadists, for instance, claim that the Quran itself urges them to make jihad, “jahedoo fee sabeil-u-llah,” (make jihad for the cause of Allah.) The word “jihad” has at least two vastly different meanings. It means exertion. It also stands for making war, and it is the latter that the jihadists invoke as their mandate.

While the so-called moderate Muslims are generally silent, either out of fear, lack of organization, or apathy, the Islamists work around the clock and around the world to further their agenda. Hardly a week passes without a Grand Mufti or an Ayatollah issuing pronouncements in support of radical Islam. The rank-and-file Islamist clergy, for their part, transmit these fatwas and edicts to their flocks in mosques and hammer them into the minds of impressionable children in madressehs. Through this grassroots process, radical Islam is recruiting greater and greater numbers of adherents. On the one hand, the Islamists engage in acts of violence to disrupt the functioning of societies, while on the other they cleverly exploit the freedom they enjoy in non-Islamic lands to subvert them from within.

Issuing death threats and finishing the job are part of the modus operandi of the Islamists who disagree with them. It is not surprising that Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" received a fatwa because it appeared to mock Muhammad.

The Iranian historian, Ahmad Kasravi, on March 11, 1946, while being tried on charges of "slander against Islam," was shot to death along with one of his asssitants in open court in Tehran by followers of Navvab Safavi, a Shi'a extremist cleric who had founded a terrorist organization called the Fadayan-e Islam (literally Devotees of Islam).

The Egyptian novelist Naguib Mahfouz was stabbed because one of his books was thought to be sacrilegious. And when the Arab scholar Suliman Bashear argued that Islam developed as a religion gradually rather than emerging fully formed from the mouth of the Prophet, he was injured after being thrown from a second- story window by his students at the University of Nablus in the West Bank. Even many broad-minded liberal Muslims become upset when the historical veracity and authenticity of the Quran is questioned.

Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh was killed November 2, 2004, by a 26-year-old extremist Muslim of Dutch-Moroccan descent for creating a 10-minute movie Submission. The movie deals with the topic of violence against women in Islamic societies. The voices of the moderate Muslims have again been effectively silenced.

When Anwar-as-Sadat signed the peace agreement with Israel in 1979; four assassins from the Muslim Brotherhood assassinated him in September, 1981.

"Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur'an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope."—Muslim Brotherhood

“During the Muslim Brothers' seventy-plus years of existence, there have been cycles of growth, followed by divisions into factions, including clandestine financial networks, and violent jihad groups, such as al-Jihad and al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya in Egypt, HAMAS in Palestine and mujahideen and Al-Qaida groups in Afghanistan.”

The mainstream American media continues to indulge in the fantasy that “radical Islam” can be reformed by everybody realizing that we are at war with this minority of devils. They are Islam revisionists because they think all the “bad stuff” in the Quran was inserted there after Muhammad’s death. Naturally, they are vague on this point, as to precisely which suras were ex-post.

Presently, fanatical Islam is lashing out with mad fury before its own final demise. The “infidel” world has been complicit in the surge of Islamism through its mistakes, complacency, and greed.

Unfortunately, even some Islam-realists fall short. When they are put in front of the camera, they refuse to acknowledge that it is Islam that is the source of evil, so they resort to a redundant phrase of how “moderates” can reclaim the faith. The whole thing is truly bizarre. I have yet to hear, whenever a moderate Muslim is asked about the true nature of Islam, ‘Hold on here! I do not agree with your revisionist thinking. I am an Islam-realist. We believe Islam is in and of itself a religion of evil, and I declare it, not from the view of a particular religious dogma, but from a humanistic and common sense definition of morality, not because of what some belief was inserted into the Quran but because of:

1_What Muhammad said that remains unabrogated.
2_What Muhammad did (and said while he was doing it).
3_What Muhammad did not say or command or support that is good.
4_ What Muslim consensus has been for every century afterwards.
5_What the governing code of Muslim terrorists is today.’

Islam is, therefore, in total, universally, and innately evil.
It actively encourages some of the most debased, inhumane treatment of people known to man, regardless of which dogma you compare it to (religious or secular).

While I desire freedom in Iran, I am a committed anti-Islamist and anti-communist in general. My beliefs have matured over the years. I now think that God has a set of values that are absolutely right and good, rebellion against which is wrong (sinful), and about which the commitment to deceive others is evil, as is the commitment to deny the existence of anything absolutely good or bad.

I believe communism is an expression of materialist naturalist philosophy that is atheistic, representing a desire by man to dominate both nature and man. To me, it is Satan’s “denial” play...that there is no God. But Satan works in multiple theaters simultaneously. I believe Islam is Satan’s chief “deception” play. Rather than deny God exists, it asserts that God does in fact exist, but that God does not desire that men worship out of love or free will, but through rote, fear, and guilt, and through the sins of pride, envy, and chauvinism.

It is a mentality of enslavement that drives Islam...”submission” in which man subdues other men in order to establish a kingdom of oppression and hatred on earth. Both atheism/materialism and Islam appear as contradictions with respect to each other, but when you peel away the veneer of their pretense, you see that their aims are the same. Fascism is fascism.

Many people have asked me why I have put my life in harm’s way by tangling with Islam and why I do what I do. Born in a Muslim family and having witnessed first-hand the horrors and indignity that Islamofascism visits on people it subjugates, I have taken it upon myself to do my part in defeating this ideology of oppression, hate and violence. Islam is wrapped in deception as a spiritual dogma or religion and is more dangerous than Nazism, Communism and Fascism.

My writings aim to help people decide if they want to rank with the Islamists or do they want to truly live as free men. The truth shall set you free, it is said, but first it will shatter the cozy, sweet world you live in.

Nowadays we hear from the non-Muslim world about the moderate version of Islam and moderate Muslims. In my view, being a Muslim and not being radical is simply not possible. I never thought that it would be easy to reason with Muslims. They don't understand that freedom has a price. Freedom lets a person make choices and be up-front about it. And that's where I part with those who would prefer to be sheep and have sheepdogs hem them in.

Many non-Muslims are obviously very well-meaning with regard to Islam, but they are also extremely naïve and ignorant of the facts. They seem to think that Islam is just another religion of love and peace and Muslims should be given full freedom to practice their religion. Do they also believe that thieves, misogynists, rapists, child-molesters and any and all manner of practicing evils should be given complete carte blanche to carry on with what they value and believe? These well-meaning simpletons are just as deluded as the fanatic jihadists by refusing to acknowledge the fact that one cannot be a Muslim and not abide by the dictates of the Quran.

There is no such thing as moderate Islam. There is no such thing as secular Islam or a secular Muslim. How can you possibly secularize a shark or a snake? You can’t. It’s the nature of the beast. There are numerous sects within Islam. One and all are extremes and not in the least amenable to change. Keep in mind that Islam claims that it is the perfect eternal faith for mankind. Splits have occurred and will continue to occur in Islam. Yet, reformation has not happened in nearly 1400 years and is not going to happen. Islam is carved in granite, just the way it is. No change. Allah's book is sealed.

There are indeed some Muslims who are moderate in the way they practice their religion. These people, for the most part, are culturally Muslims. They don't practice Islam the way it is mandated. They pick and choose. Therefore, "moderate Islam," is no Islam at all. It is not possible. The only way to deal with the menace of real Islam, the Islamofascist varieties, is to fully dismantle it and relegate it to the confines of museums.

The Islamists have created fear not only in a non-Islamic world, but in the hearts and minds of those who consider themselves to be Muslims. The Islamists wage their war under the name of Islam. They receive immense direct and indirect support from the rank-and-file of ordinary Muslims. It is this support of moderate Muslims that keeps the Islamists alive. And it is the Islamists who are intent on showing no mercy to any and all who do not share their ideology, be they Muslims or not.

This is why there is truly no such thing as a “moderate” Muslim. Moderate Muslims, or in other words “non-practicing Muslims”, are moderate by default only. Like millions of Iranians who were born into a faith they did not choose, a faith that was “inflicted” upon them by invaders of a foreign culture, a faith that forbids them to leave or revert to their pre-Islamic heritage and other Iranian religions, they remain Muslims in name only.

However, someone like the fanatic Ahmadinejad is a true Muslim who was instilled from his upbringing with Islamic superstitions, prejudices and hatreds. He was indoctrinated, from the moment of his birth, by an extensive ruthless in-power cadre of self-serving mullahs and imams who intended to maintain their stranglehold on the rank and file of the faithful—their very source of support and livelihood.

The fanatic Ahmadinejad is every bit as bloodthirsty as Hitler. Every jihadist is. But, he is not a Hitler. Not yet. He is far from having control of the Iranian State, including its armed forces. Even his popularity among the very poor is sinking for not being able to deliver what he had promised. Hence, the thing to do is to increase greatly any and all non-violent pressures on the present Islamic regime in Iran. Despite the current tug-o-war in Washington, we hope to believe people in U.S. government have studied all the possible effective actions and now it is time to put them into full effect without any delay. It is also time for the rabid self-serving Bush-bashers to start fighting the real enemy.

The majority of Iranians are against the mullahs' rule and many are staunchly pro-West and pro-America. However, a minority supports the mullahs for a variety of reasons, such as jobs, influence and simply for money. And a much smaller minority composed of the people we call the 3Fs -- fools, fanatics and frauds, do support the Mullahs. Further, the mullahs have severely dis-empowered the opposition by systematic harassing, jailing and killing.

The mullahs’ days are, however, numbered and we will witness the rule of the true Iranians, the majority of whom are worthy human beings. No totalitarian rule can survive without a segment of the population, for one reason or another, supporting it. Yet, time is not on the side of the mullahs. By their mismanagement, thievery and oppression of the masses, they have created explosive internal conditions. Any significant support of the presently splintered Iranian opposition will be the tipping point—a tipping point that would assuredly topple the mullahs.

In conclusion, our best hope for humanity and civilization to survive is to firmly resist Islamofascism in all its forms. As an Iranian-American, I have experienced first-hand the Islamic tyranny as well as the blessings of liberty. I find it my solemn duty to do all I can to battle Islamofascism, the most dehumanizing active threat of our time.

Just to clarify

Mr. Anonymous666 and others,

I have written a piece that as soon as time permits will be posted here in Iranian.com. I have earlier mentioned where I come from. I am not in any way or form religious and you be surprise to know more about me. The lack of knowledge about the Iranian society and cultural history leads to prejudice. If one thing is wrong doesn't make another right by default. It's the simplest argument to blame Islam or Arabs on our problems. Similarly it's simple to blame foreigners in some countries for their economical shortcomings rather than wrong policies in place.

Arguments if constructive, must be based on realities of our society. You may disagree with the norms, but clearly state the solutions based on the existing culture and traditions. Otherwise you are intellectually lazy. I can't comment here as if I am writing an article, the emphasis for me is to know more about Iran and today's Iran. It's not enough to be against the IR but to be pro a better Iran. to do that we are required as a nation to be more precise and with our criticism offer realistic solutions.

Moderate religion will not come to fanatic society. Why would you think that Iranian Islam is different than Malaysian or Syrian or Saudi? Would you agree that the religion has been melted in every culture based on their social behavior? Similarly Christianity is the same as always been but the societies have change!

Is it possible for Iran to have a ruthless and non democratic regime, or even harsh social attitude (refer to villagers where the kind old mand who you love, beats his wife or daughter if he thinks they are not conservative enough!) if every Iranian is atheist? or Christian? I don't think we would be too different. Our society is at a certain stage, the reason could be investigated more, but our interpretation of life is at certain level. Be it Islam or secularism, we won't be much different. To me it's a waste of time and effort to attack the area that is not the primary section of our problems. This is a long discussion but hopefully I have made my point clear.

Mr. Imani

Your articles are courageous and historically correct and reflex all realities in the daily life of Iranians.

Apart from this IRI's stooge, Abarmard, and a "moderate" Muslim, Mammad, most readers are not really in a position to counter-argue.

The point however is your generalizing all Muslims in a same level of, Islamism.

This simply weakens secular and democratic front to which many Muslims, ex-Muslims or even moderate people belong.

If you also pay more attention to this political or tactical point, I am sure more and more people can be enlightened by your well documented articles.

There are Muslims fighting

There are Muslims fighting against this brand of Islam. Muslims Against Sharia, I highly recommend a visit to their site. It is a fountain of wisdom and tolerance. I note that it has taken a while but, true moderate Muslims are rising up against the haters produced by the Islamic REpublic's brand of "ISLAM".

Now if only we could get some Americans to moderate their views similarly, we might have more progress in the "can't we all get along" project.
//muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/

We must Hold Islam to Account

Abarmard,

I have no idea who you are, but I can conclude by the way you have expressed yourself you are another Islamist “useful idiot” ultra Islamofascist at the service of evil.

I do realize it takes time for sub-humans to fully become humans. So we will wait and see what will happen to you.

As far as me, I am not a heck of a writer or a person who strives to be politically correct.

A politically correct person, in a way, is a prostitute. He sells his pen in the service of other peoples’ belief, agenda or interests. And you can be politically correct only by selling yourself exclusively to a particular buyer(s). I write, because I see things in certain ways and as a poet/writer I depict things as I understand them. My mission is to speak up as I see things and not allow others stifle me, intimidate me or buy me off.

If some of my writings ruffle no person or group’s feathers, I might as well do something else. It is wonderful that people disagree with me on some issues, for as long as I speak the truth with honesty and with an eye to a lofty overall vision. Those who disagree with me, have never opened and read the book of terror.

Islam is a religion of peace and the great majority of Muslims are not party to any plans and actions of the radicals’- so claim academic pundits, leftist journalists, and hired Islamic apologists. The incantation of these “authorities” is the lullaby that puts the people into a sleep of complacency.

Complacency and appeasement on the part of the free world and those well-meaning, non-practicing Muslims, can only serve Islam. There is no chance for co-existence with Islam. All one needs to know is to see what is happening in Islamic countries. That is exactly what is in store for the presently free people of the world if Islam is not held in check.

The average free person, who is busy with all manner of demands on his time and resources, would hardly want to worry about the very real threat which mainstream Islam poses to his life and to his future. It is so much easier to accept the claims of authorities who assure us not to worry; ‘it’s just a tiny minority of extremists’, and ‘soon the great majority of “moderates” will triumph over the crazy zealots’. So we lull ourselves back to the comfort of our pretenses, serene in knowing that the “experts” have it all under control.

Wait! Aren’t these the same experts who told us Hitler could not possibly be crazy enough to attack Russia or Britain? Aren’t these the same “experts” who tried to cover up Mao Tse Tung’s reign of terror in China, or Pol Pot’s genocide in Cambodia? Isn’t this the same “expertise” that assured us in the 1970’s that inflation was good, and could never be accompanied by recession?

Aren’t these the same folks who tell us the Saudis are our best friends in the Middle East, that the Titanic was unsinkable, that we should not succumb to our racist impulses by reporting suspicious Muslim men who are learning to fly jumbo jets, and that goods imported from China are perfectly safe? Or that if we just “open up dialogue with our enemies,” we can create peace?? Hmmm...It seems like we have much to worry about when the “authorities” begin to disseminate their collective wisdom. And don't bank on the politicians either. They are the master practitioners of the art of the politically correct.

Yet, some of these professional advocates of Islam go farther by accusing those who sound the alarm as racist, bigots, hatemongers and much more. That attitude sure worked well for England, Holland and France!

But the elites who scold us and seduce us into our slumbering acquiescence never allow their dismal record of intellectual failure to prevent them from claiming ever more enlightenment. Their present project is to ‘build a bridge to moderate Islam’.

Let us, for the record, be clear on this subject one more time: Islamism, Islamofascism, Radical Islam, Political Islam, and Militant Islam are different terms for essentially the same thing, a virulent, hateful, dangerous and violent system of beliefs and practices. Yet, one and all are progeny and mutation of Islam itself.

Islam in all of its forms and sects is simply an evil ideology that is practiced by all Muslims, an ideology that increasingly is manifesting in evil, inhuman and murderous manifestations Islamism is a pincer, with the world in its jaws between the end-of-the-world Shiism and the jihadist Sunnis. To the simple mind of western “intellectuals”, within every ideology there must always be “good liberals” and “bad conservatives,” and so they search in vain for the “moderate”, “reasonable” and “pragmatic” wing of any threatening ideology.

But in their enormous ignorance of the realities of Islam, they fail to realize that in Islam, the wings are not “left” and “right”, or “liberal” vs. “conservative”; they are two jaws in the same supremacist device that aims to crush the life of all non-believers. I will explain why attempting to build a bridge to “moderate” Islam is in fact a road to hell, since “moderate Islam” is oxymoronic. Any moderacy in Islam is in fact incompatible and in conflict with essential Islam, its power structure and its controlling proponents.

The so-called “Moderate Muslims” or “Secular Muslims” would like to have their cake and eat it too. They wish to remain Muslims in name only, yet not bother to read the mandates of the Quran or understand the context in which Muhammad foisted his inconsistent poisonous prophecy upon the world. One which melds at time with the tone and fervor of the Old and New Testament and one which at other times is exclusory, racist, imperialistic, dominating and self-aggrandizing at the expense of all western norms and ideas developing over the last many millennia.

Instead of conclusively demonstrating Islam's violent nature from its very inception and moving in another direction with what they can prove is the worthwhile portions of Islam, they have decided to marry an inherently noxious religion with an inherently godless philosophy, secularism. “Secular Islam Summit” was hilarious; a run-down and meaningless show of desperate attempt to salvage a bankrupt and deadly ideology.

Also, these happy-go-lucky people-of-Islam are indeed delusional, for Muhammad’s record is not even the subject of debate. His utterances and deeds are a part of history that is simply not debatable. Islam is what Muhammad said it was in the diatribes of vitriol and hatred that abounds in is the Quran; and Islam is what Muhammad did during his violent life. If you accept Islam as your religion, you become a part of the guiding principles of hatred, revenge, and rejection of prior enlightened prophecies. But the “bridge-builders” refuse to acknowledge the fact that one cannot be a Muslim and not abide by the dictates of the Quran.

Keep in mind that the fact being a Muslim is a clear admission of wrongdoing, the extent of which depends on the degree of a person’s Muslim-ness. If he is only a Muslim who does not practice Islam, then he is, at the very least, guilty of hypocrisy. If he is somewhat of a Muslim by tithing, from time to time, following the ranting of the local mullah or imam, and swallowing whole the pronouncements of the high divines, then he is guilty of significantly contributing to the evildoings of Islam. One cannot practice one's religion as if on an island, ignoring one's co-religionist's Jihadist and terrorist tendencies. Either one rails openly and publicly against those preventing what one believes to be the pure and positive core of one's beliefs, or one becomes a co-conspirator in the continuing perversion of the religion of more than a billion protagonists.

It is time for the non-practicing Muslims to abandon their childish desire to an uncompromising ideology and cling to an evil, yet pretend they can “reform” it, like the abused wife insisting that she can cure her alcoholic, violent spouse by remaining in a codependent relationship. It’s time the self-described “moderates” either accept the truth of their ugly religious ethics and reject them by joining the forces of liberty and worldwide family of free people, or join the forces of darkness. But to join the peace-loving free world, you must immediately stop making excuses for a religion that expresses malevolence and hate more often than democracy tolerance towards other religions and peoples.

Here is my 10-point process to understand why Islam cannot be “moderated,” for the benefit of those misguided people who are the advocates of “Secular Islam.” I will show that “Secular Islam” an impossibility.

1_The first question that must be answered is whether or not any doctrine can be called “evil”. If nothing is good or evil, then all of life is inherently nihilistic, and all thinkers and believers in life (all of us) are necessarily nihilists. We must establish a way to measure “evil.”

Take for example, Naziism. How are we to know that the Nazi party was evil, and that present-day believers in Nazi principles are doing evil? We certainly cannot use traditional Islamic mea culpas, to rid Nazis of their well deserved guilt! We can’t look at present day Nazis who are demonstrably not trying to take over the world. We can’t ask the average Nazis on the street to declare themselves authorities on their entire cult.

We can’t just look at the actions of some of them, for in doing so, we could simply assert that the good Nazi party was hijacked by “radicals”. It is certainly true that the vast majority of German supporters of the Nazi party in 1936 were normal, peaceful people who were simply held hostage by the zealots. If you took a random “Nazi”, you’d be vastly more likely to condemn him for his taste for Sauerkraut rather than see him participate in an actual murder.

So we have the same excuses at work that exist in the debate over Islam, but today we condemn Naziism as evil. If it is illegitimate to simply look for a nice Nazi, and try to build a bridge to the Nazi power structure through him, then how can we think we can do it with Islam? We think so because we have presupposed with 20/20 vision that Naziism is bad, and yet because of the forces of politically correct, we believe that Islam is not. But this begs the question: How then do we know what evil is, so we can condemn it? Nowadays the liberal mantra is that all cultures, all peoples, all religions are merely shades of the same gray and only understanding separates us - that good an evil are primitive concepts that have no place in an overly rich and powerful America.

The answer is that the only way to determine if a thing is evil or neutral or good is to establish a working definition of what constitutes evil and its opposite, good, and then test the doctrine against the definition.

While it is true that many people will disagree on the precise definition, it does not matter. Let each person establish the definition for him or herself, and at least be logical and fair in evaluating the evidence of the creed. In other words, deal with the consequences of the process, no matter how hard the findings are to accept. The Bible says, “You shall know them by their fruits.”

2_Once a definition is in place, the only way to evaluate a belief system under any accepted definition is to read the foundational books, the manuscripts that define the creed...the scripture that was carefully written to explain the norms and intent of those who established it. You cannot ask a Nazi whether he thinks he is evil. He will tell you he is good, and that you are evil for resisting him, because he is defending his “people” against those who resist his beliefs. This is exactly what Muhammad said about the Jews and Christians who resisted him.

“Thus (will it be said): ‘Taste ye then of the (punishment): for those who resist Allah, is the penalty of the Fire.’" Quran 8.014

“And when those who disbelieve plot against thee (O Muhammad) to wound thee fatally, or to kill thee or to drive thee forth; they plot, but Allah (also) plotteth; and Allah is the best of plotters.” Quran 8.030

“And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease (in defeat), then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do.” Quran 8.039

You cannot allow a random Nazi member to provide personal anecdotal opinion and declare it to be authoritative. Only the written treatises of the founders and their subsequent actions may be taken as true expression of the belief system. You cannot take a third-party account of Nazi goodness to be superior to the Nazi party principles and the philosophy espoused in Mein Kampf. That would be ignoring Hitler’s beliefs in exchange for that of an outside observer commenting on Hitler’s beliefs. The same is true for Islamic apologists. We can’t just trot out any “scholar” and declare him to be authoritative over the words and deeds of the most important figures in Islamic history.

This is the precise error that Stephen Schwartz makes in advising people to read the Aqida al-Tahawiyya (interpretations of the creed), or other apocryphal interpretations that only one of ignorance would escalate above the Quran and Hadith. Yet normal people can’t help notice the similarity in name of “Aqida al” as referenced by Schwartz is his fatuous quest for moderation in an inherently oppressive philosophy, and the more memorable name “Al Qaida” as manifested in reality. Why does a third-party attempt to whitewash a text name that so closely resembles Terror Inc’s brand name? Because they are the same thing!

Once we have found the foundational texts which declare the basis and purpose of the creed, in order to validate the creed as it is written we must test if the leaders of the creed are in fact true to their words; one must look at historical actions of those who rose in rank through the belief system. Look at their words, actions, and reactions as their lives played out to see if they were consistent in representing their own creed. This is how you test whether or not a doctrine is evil.

3_Having defined evil, and having isolated the relevant foundational texts, we can move ahead. If we find a group of people who adhere strictly to their codes of conduct as established in their scripture, we cannot place these people on the sidelines of their religion as aberrations or “extremists”. Such attempts to marginalize the fundamentalist believers in a religious movement are the product of highly confused and illogical thinking.

A person cannot be “extreme” with respect to her religion if she is in alignment with all of its commandments and admonishments. Being highly devout is “fundamentalism,” but it is not extreme or radical. The reason we wish to believe that a Buddhist who never steps on an ant is “extreme” is because we realize that the behavior is unusual and difficult to accomplish, inasmuch as almost nobody can live up to its ideals.

But to view an action that is rare and strange to you, and then declare that, because it occupies a far-off position with respect to your personal beliefs and capability to align, it is therefore “extreme” with respect to its own religious dictates, is highly illogical and quite frankly stupid. And this is the precise “logic” that is used by those who wipe the Islamic slate clean, declaring all inhumane practices and advocation in Islam to be the handiwork of “extremists.” Such muddled thinking does nothing to advance our understanding of the creed, the evil it does, and its dangers to mankind.

If we use this process and we objectively find that Islam as it is currently practiced by many satisfies the definition of evil, we cannot then be subject to the insults of the ignorant who themselves refuse to conduct a like investigation. We cannot be accused of being “Nazis” ourselves simply because our rational discovery and analysis process uncovered true evil. It would be the height of absurdity to declare that an anti-Nazi is just as bad as a Nazi for vehemently opposing Nazi thinking! The same must be true for Islam.

4_ I won’t get into every nuance of the reasons; any average person can define evil and read the Quran and come away with the sole conclusion that it is evil. Only those of us who have bothered to read the Quran and parts of the Hadith and Sunna and who have bothered to read history and take note of present-day Islamic violence and oppression in light of their dark beliefs can say that we have good reason to declare Islam in its present form an evil cult. But suffice it to say that Islam, as configured by Muhammad and as interpreted over the centuries, essentially boils down to the following principles:

a. Jews and Christians are, per se, the epitome of evil to Islamic thinking. Pagans are also evil, but somewhat less insulting to Allah, since the Jews and Christians received prophecy and “rejected” it.

One of many such verses of hate: “Those who reject (Truth) (Islam), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.” Quran 098.006

b. Therefore Jews and Christians are offensive to Allah. The worse between them is the Jew. The world will not be restored to Allah’s preferences until all Jews are defeated and entirely eradicated.

One of many such verses of hate: “Say: ‘shall I point out to you something much worse than this (referring to the previous verses), as judged by the treatment it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath (Jews), those of whom some He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped evil;- these are (many times) worse in rank, and far more astray from the even path!’” Quran 5.060

c. Muslims believe that those who resist conversion to Islam and the establishment of the prominence of Islamic global domination are Islam’s enemies who can never be trusted or treated as equals.

One of many such verses of hate: “O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love, even though they have rejected the Truth that has come to you, and have (on the contrary) driven out the Prophet and yourselves (from your homes), (simply) because ye believe in Allah your Lord! If ye have come out to strive in My Way and to seek My Good Pleasure, (take them not as friends), holding secret converse of love (and friendship) with them: for I know full well all that ye conceal and all that ye reveal. And any of you that does this has strayed from the Straight Path.” Quran 60.001

d. Allah calls on Muslims (believers) to use their corporeal power to murder Jews, Christians, and people of other religions and to destroy their nations, cities and institutions, until they sue for peace and either become Muslims or pay for the privilege of being ruled by a world Islamic order.

One of many such verses of hate: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

One of many such verses of hate: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 196:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)"

e. Forget all you know about spiritually uplifting ideals of brotherly love and peace (the word “love” is nearly absent in the Quran). Peace and earthly enlightenment only comes after slaughter and victory in a war in which Islam is victorious. If, in any battle or time period, Islam is not victorious, Muslims must lie in wait until the right time and then ambush their enemies and establish Islamic rule. Until that time, policies of terrorism and deceit are both sanctioned and advised.

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).

Excerpt Q-33:25-27
Set 66, Count 131-133 [33.25]...Allah sufficed the believers in fighting... [33.26]...some [Jews] you killed and you took captive another part. [33.27]...He made you heirs to their [Jewish] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden...

(So much for the theory that Muslims don’t have a religious mandate to claim Jewish lands...that the “Palestinian” problem is all the fault of the Jews...so on and so forth)

f. Islam calls for robotic acceptance of minute and grand prescriptions covering every aspect of a Muslim’s life. Therefore, Islam is not personally or spiritually relevant. It is political, which is why it may never separate itself from government. Adherence is not a matter of voluntary devotion, but of the Law, and violators are severely punished, including capital punishment as in Sharia.

The principle of “an eye for an eye” (retribution/revenge) is supreme in all social interaction. Praying five times daily, wearing headscarves, ablution, abstaining from alcohol, etc... all this is done not out of personal belief that it is proper, but because Allah says so, and nobody may violate Allah’s written commandments.

g. Men are the strong and superior. Women are the weak and inferior. Women must be kept ignorant and within a low social class so they do not abuse the Islamic order by seeking equality.

“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the others and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you take no further action against them. Allah is high, supreme.” Quran 4.34

Islam strictly forbids women to participate in many activities in which men are involved. In Islam, women are not in the calculus—women are incidental and merely exist for the pleasure of men.

The words “naghess al aghl” literally means defected witted person. It describes the intellectual capability of women in general. And the word “zaeefeh”, is referred directly to female gender in contrast to men, meaning “the weaker one”, in a condescending fashion.

“By another sign He (Allah) gave you wives from among yourselves, that you (men) might live in joy with them, and planted love and kindness in your hearts. Surely there are signs in this for thinking men.” Quran 32.21

h. Muslims are entitled, in fact required, to wage war on all non-Islamic thoughts and deeds. Any who mock or disrespect the prophet Muhammad are to be murdered by honor-bound Muslim enforcers.

4:162b Muhammad said, "My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya." ["Jizya" is the poll tax paid by subjugated peoples in return for the protection of the Islamic government.]
4:196 Mohammad said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshiped but Allah,’ and whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshiped by Allah,’ his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah (either to punish him or to forgive him.)"

4:220 Muhammad said, "... I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy) ..."

The 69th verse of Sûrah Anfãl declares:
“Eat ye the spoils of war. They are lawful and pure.”

“The apostle (Muhammad) said, ‘Kill any Jew that falls into your power.’ Hereupon Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'” 61

In another terrorist action, Muhammad asked his men to murder an old Jewish man, Abu Afak. “’Who will deal with this rascal for me?’ The killing of such an old man moved a poetess, Asma b. Marwan, to compose disrespectful verses about the Prophet, and she too was assassinated.” When the assassin prayed with the prophet at al-Medina, Muhammad said to him: "’Have you slain the daughter of Marwan?’ The assassin said: ‘Yes. Is there something more for me to do?’ He [Muhammad] said: ‘No two goats will butt together about her.’”62...” (from Islam is not Salaam, by CS Karlson, 2004)

i. All contemporary written scripture is corrupted, and only the Quran is the truth. Muhammad is the highest authority, as Allah’s primary and final prophet. Even the Quran contains contradictions and infusions of verses by Satan (note: Muhammad actually codified this concept in the Quran, the subject of Rushdie’s book, the “Satanic Verses”). But in order to eradicate Satanic infusion, whenever a passage conflicts with another, only the latter one may be understood as correct...because Allah will always trump Satan. The Quran (surviving, unabrogated prophesy) and its ethical commandments are eternal, perfect, and immutable.

j. This is why any references to “peaceful” earlier scriptures have been completely abrogated by evil scripture that is congruent with only older, violent scripture. What we have left is a book that is unbelievably sickening in its hateful attitudes and inhumane practices. This is why you cannot believe an ignorant Muslim who quotes abrogated scripture, such as “there should be no compulsion in religion”...that phrase was abrogated hundreds of times, and it is enraging to have to point out such obvious contradictions.

5_ Conclusion: These unalterable and undilutable sentiments represent that which is wrong, sinful, erroneous, ill-advised, and just plain evil.

6_ Moreover, anyone who acts consistently in the advocation and advancement of these ethics is adhering to Islam as it was intended. They are fundamentalists, like the Christian who consistently turns the other cheek, or the Buddhist who is careful never to step on a bug, but they are not extremists.

An extremist Christian would for example claim that Christ did not intend for people to forgive each other and express the final commandment for brotherly love, but rather to beat each other until they accepted Christ as God, and to reject anyone who did not believe as they do. Perhaps some, even many, Christians think that the latter is correct, but according to scripture, they are wrong. This is easily identifiable in the New Testament and is a consistent theme in Christ’s prophecy. If such heretical “Christians” persist in evangelizing incorrect interpretations, they are extremists vis-a-vis Christianity as codified in the Bible.

Likewise, if any Muslim tries to declare that Muhammad (who personally led dozens of offensive military excursions, took slaves for himself, demanded 20% war booty, raped a 9-year-old concubine, ordered the assassinations of his detractors—all recorded in official ISLAMIC texts!) never intended his scripture to represent Islam, but rather Muslims should be peaceful and loving when such advice is not given in his scripture (in fact it is revealed in the scriptures Muhammad tried to eradicate), they are not mainstream...they are the true extremists. You cannot lie about your religion and consider yourself “moderate.”

We have hundreds of commandments by Muhammad that declare such things as:

“Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (in conquest): for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds.” Quran 47.035

“Fighting (in wars to advance Islam) is prescribed for you, and ye (may) dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Quran 2.216

“Fight those who: believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold forbidden that which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” Quran 9.029

Passages like these and worse are all over the Quran and Muhammad proved their meaning by the perfect records of how he conducted himself in life, as recorded in the Hadith.

7_ So what we have is this: we have a group of personally non-violent, well-meaning, friendly perhaps, but quite ignorant, and non-intellectual people such as the advocates of the “Secular Islam Summit” who seek to censor all the evil that is expressed within Islamic scripture as commandment, and yet seek to somehow allow the resulting “moderated” cult to retain its brand name, “Islam.”

These people use confused logic, denial and censorship to create what they call “connections” and “bridges” between normal human behavior and those who refuse to abandon that which is manifestly evil. They assist ignorant Muslims in surreptitiously redacting most of their own scripture and all of Islam’s raison d'etre, yet they refuse to call for the abandonment of the religion itself, and certainly refuse to admit that the reason reform is sought is because the religion they minister is full of antisocial, animus and hatred....ergo, evil.

These people are secularists who desire Islam to be restrained, so they can assert that their policies of dilution are good for all religions. In doing so, they seek to throw the baby out with the bath water, for not all religions are in fact evil.

8_ But once this liberal process of ambiguating religion is understood, we can also understand why their task is futile. “Moderating” by ignoring the truth cannot work unless the Quran itself, and much of the life and traditions of Muhammad recorded long ago, are universally destroyed to the last manuscript and digital file...and good luck with that.

Since this is impossible, one day even under the most successful liberal scenario where Muslims have forgotten their religion, some 16-year-old Muslim boy will bother to read the original works of the Satanic and evil Muhammad, and refusing out of sin of pride to abandon the cult, the whole sick, violent history of the Islamic juggernaut will rise again from the ashes of the books burned by self-described moderates.

Here, many uneducated people refer to the history of Christianity and its reformation, and perhaps to a general view of the dialectic of movements in general, which they believe go from pure to corrupt, then to reformist, then to post-modern. But applying this supposed deterministic process to Islam is absurd. Christianity was most certainly corrupted by the 13th century. By the 15th century, the church had become even more corrupted: acts such as the sale of indulgences, the sins of the papal rivalries, and its repression against heretics were legion.

When Martin Luther nailed his list of 95 grievances to the door of the Wittenberg Church, he was scripturally correct. In fact, the Catholic Church had gone so far as to make it illegal to print the Bible in any language other than the dead Latin (used as a code language by the church, since only Catholic-trained men were taught the language). But church chicanery was anti-Christian according to the actual Bible. So from the perspective of scripture, the reformists were correct, and the Popes were divergent, and that is what led to the Reformation.

Contrast this with what the so-called reformists are trying to do with Islam...they are not looking into the Quran for answers...they are banning the book altogether lest people find out the evil that drips from its pages. The Quran is the last place Islamic moderators look for help in “reforming” Islam, because it would make al Qaida look like a poodle pet-owners convention. In fact, doesn’t it take great chutzpa to call a movement that seeks to eradicate the letter and intent of actual scripture “reformist”? Perhaps “retardation” or “revisionism” would be better terms.

9_You can restrain Islam, but you cannot lie about its true character by branding those who abide as “extremists,” and complimenting those who abandon all but its name as “Moderates.”

10_The ludicrousness of their chosen position is exactly why “moderate” Muslims refuse to engage in a battle of truth using Muslim scripture to back up their preposterous denials. They can’t read their book out loud because they are canonically wrong and they know it. And this is precisely why the vast majority of Muslims prefer to name their children “Muhammad” or “Osama” rather than march in the streets to protest the evils that this religion does on a daily basis.

This is also why liberal appeasers in 1938, who refused to call Hitler “evil,” got the world into so much trouble by creating a similar confused intellectual forum about the Nazis. They tried to build bridges to the “moderate” Nazis; they lectured clear thinkers about the dangers of inciting German hatred by pointing out the truth. They accused conservatives of being “just as fascist” as the Nazis; they sent ambassadors and made treaties and trusted that the moderates would come out and “reform” their zealous leadership. And they were wrong.

We in the United States need to embark on a comprehensive legal, educational, and social campaign to eradicate the deadly plague of Islam. We need to immediately stop appeasing the Muslims and call Islam for what it really is. By effective action, we may even save those peaceful and self-styled moderate or secular Muslims from their own deluded affliction.

There is nothing that I would love more than witnessing all Muslims become ex-Muslims and full-fledged members of a diverse, tolerant and democratic society. I hope that Muslims themselves leave this Bedouin slaveholder cult. Yet, the hope is extremely slim. Islam has a stranglehold on its slaves and will neither let them go, nor do the Muslims seem to have the insight or the will to leave it in large numbers. But hope, as slim as it is, keeps me sounding the alarm before the fire of Islam engulfs us all.

Abarmard: Write your take about Islam and do not evade

To Abarmard: I have been reading your posts and your agenda of discrediting certain sharp and intelligent authors and and clouding issues against Islam and Islamic Republic of Iran on Iranian.com is very easy to follow. We readers are not your fool.

Your name and picture with your writings do not match. Based on your words this applies to you too: “You are free to express yourself and I am free not to listen to them”

But, Abarmard: In Iran, Islam for Iranians is a defining question for our next phase and we owe it to next generation. Write your take about Islam and its continual savagery in our Iranian history and do not evade. Let others hear your take on Islam.

You don't make sense

The title: Iranians deserve better is fine, but I have read some of your articles and I don't see you preaching anything but hate and dictatorial attitude. So you obviously are not the one who should tell us what we deserve. I certainly don't want you and like you to be the future of Iran. We had enough sufferings. In other words I don't like your ideas, knowledge (or the lack of it) and your fascist tone.

You are free to express yourself and I am free not to listen to them, and I don't, but just wanted to let you know for once that you are no better than what you are against.....And now I am gone for good from your area!