IRI

Midwesty

How is your position different from Mehdi's?
Why do two wrongs make it right?
My heart is bleeding for the students being tortured, for people dismembered, or stoned, or publicly hanged, and for people about to be thrown off roof tops, and you, as a true lover of Iran, cannot make a fuss about it because there is other ill in the world?
Wrong is wrong.
Bad is bad.
No amount of rationalization will change that.

Trivializing the criminal

Trivializing the criminal nature of the IR by the IR's lackey is appalling and is indicative of their morally bankrupt souls.

Does the American left in the US trivialize Bush's atrocities against any nation or minimize the attack of civil liberaties in the US? Why even bother then to have oppositions or elections anywhere in the world. Following the logic of the IR's apologists, noone should move a muscle to make a better world or strive to find justice for those whose voice has been silenced...Such moral relativisim only confirms my conviction that most Islamists do not comprehend morality and ethics in a human sence Most of them are reprhensible and despicable human beings who think they can fool others including God.

I am not talking about solving the world's problem

What I and many true lovers of Iran are saying is what you portray as an earth shattering problem on Iran is still less significant than common problems that many nations are facing now. We should deal with problems in Iran but let's deal with it with measured actions not out of proportion reactions causing havoc. It is creating havoc that I have problem with not "dealing with the problem" itself. 

I don't follow Midwesty your last posting

We are talking about sympathizing with the death and destruction in Iran. Sympathizing is just about all we can do right now. You are talking about something much bigger, if I am not mistaken. There are 6 billion people on this Earth and we cannot pretend to have a cure for all of them. We, Iranians, have to first acknowledge that we have a problem and then get together and come to an agreement on a solution. Once we have cured our own headache then we can begin to work on the problems of the world at large, at the risk of being called, self serving imperialist pigs in collusion with the Zionist war mongers, always in search of nokar-sefat degenerates to set up puppet regimes. Until then let’s agree to tend to our own wounds.

Anonymous4now

So if you are not talking about killing then get together with your frineds and come up with one concept.

Midwesty

We are talking about not killing people in Iran, you see, if you kill them all then that would be self destructive, because there would be no Iranians left to call the country Iran, you see? Do you follow, or is this too much all at once?

It is interesting ...

that while still in India people burn live wives with their dead husbands, in Pakistan villagers gang rape women with the local court order, in Saudi they use sword to decapitating accused criminals in the public, in Uganda 800,000 people massacred under the UN supervision, the slightest movement of IRI is being watched by 192 countries and 1920 international organizations, and 19200 non profit organizations and 6,000,000,000 residents of this planet including Saudi's, Pakistani's, Indian's, and people of Uganda including the criminals that committed all that while laughing at our nation for being such a stupid and self-destructive people. 

Mehdi Jaan

Your argument is not that deep. In fact it bounces off the surface. You must be at diferent coordinate set, in the time-space continuum, than me. Shahriar is taking about the worst kings of atrocities mankind has been able to inflict on other human beings and you compare it to popping up prescription drugs, out of addiction?
"Is it worse in Iran? Maybe". May be!!? Goftegoo as margeh ensaaniat ast.
You are either not comprehending or acknowledging the severity of the situation here. We are talking about dismemberment, stoning, public hangings, torture, getting lashed for attending parties or bad hejabi, and, now, throwing people off of buildings. Where is the superficiality in this?

Re: Mehdi's clarification

Unless it is April first and you are joking then there is something seriously wrong. Are you seriously comparing the savagery of Islamic Republic with the public hangings and limbs choppings to any other place let alone to the West? If so, I got a little used bridge in Brooklyn that you can buy for a song.

Clarification

My intention is not to say that problems in Iran are OK. I mainly wanted to point out that the issue that the author is complaining about is not exclusive to Iran. And also that not everything is because of political problems. This is a deeper issue that all mankind is affected by. Is it worse in Iran? Maybe, but I think if we paid attention we would realize that beyond the glimering of the tinsletown of the West, there is also the same suffering and sorrow. Let's not be so superficial.

R.Mehdi

Your comment on any subject shows your absolute sympathy for the IRI. What is the hell connection between Westerns suuferring from certain problems IRI's atrocity against people in Iran? Are you so insane that you think people accept your comparaison?
In this case why you do not let people know your whole name and see your real picture if you believe everything in Iran is so normal?

Re: Anonymouse4now

You asked what kind of reverse logic is this?, It is called Islamist demogaugery. it is part and parcel of their ideology which begins by the name Islamic Republic, an oxymoron.

Aa meiti

What kind of reverse logic is this? Even if we accept your argument that there is pain and suffering in the US, how does that justify ignoring the suffering of Iranians? This kind of rationalization is a feeble attempt by pseudo-intellectuals to diminish the brutality of the IRI. Two wrongs don’t make it right, aa meiti.

Same Thing In the US

If there is no repression in the US, why do millions of people need to take "anti-depressants?" What do you think "anti-depressants" are? Do you really believe that they are different than street drugs? If they are, why do junkies buy them in the black market? Why do drug addicts mix them with "street drugs" to come up with different type of "high?" Just because the pharmaceutical cartels have a multi-million dollar lobby and propaganda machine does not change the fact that these drugs are no different than "street drugs." In fact a lot of the so-called street drugs entered the society as a wonder drug by psychiatrists. An exmple of this is LSD, of course. If a population needs drugs, what is the cause of that? They are even spreading lies such as "chemical imbalance," an unproven theory in the 30-40 years that it has been out, as an excuse for drugging nations enmasse. How would the american nation behave if it wasn't so addicted today?

The difference between IRI and the US is only publicity. In IRI it is in the open. In the US is is well camouflaged. People are suffering here too. I think we must realize that this issue is not all political. It is the questions of life; it is philosophy. Just because things are "milder" in US or the West doesn't mean everything is fine in these areas. Not everything can be resolved with political ideas.

Re: to Fariborz

Re: to Fariborz maleknasri:

You're a nuisance with atrocious English. Your mentality is instructive of million hours of indoctrination in mosques and listening to charlatans ayatollahs since perhaps you were a toddler. You're a zombie fantaic who will blow yourself up for your Allah. If you live in the United States, you're probably one of those sleeping cells waiting for your orders from your supreme thug and criminal, Khameni.

Altering people’s ideas or

Altering people’s ideas or attitudes is a sacred job of any totalitarian regime, especially a religious one. A collective set of attitude is an imposed paradigm which is supposed to manipulate our input / output-conditional field of behaviour. Every totalitarian regime uses some sold experts, psychologists, M.D Faribors-like to pander the tasks. We also see a number of these dubious intellectuals on this site to defend, sugar coat, or divert Iranians from IRI’s atrocity and illegitmacy. For them the IRI remains our doomed destiny and only through it we may evolve.

Typos

Thank you for the typo reminder. There are at least couple more, Bumper crop and up the ante.

Sympathize with Iranians not the IRI!

Heech heyvaani beh heyvaani nemidaarad ravaa
Aancheh in naamardomaan baa jaaneh ensann meekonand
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Goftego az margeh ensaaniat ast

Fereydoon Moshiri

To Faribors Maleknasri: Stop supporting the IRI

We know that you are a wee Islamo-fascist! Nobody reads what you write. Get a life!

Reply to : Faribors Maleknasri MD

I'm fed up by your IRI fan comments !

Because there are some Americans savages you cannot explain IRI Hanging ! Don't insult our intelligence.

And finishing by people protect their achievement ! Their achievement is hanging people or using Oil money ? If you belove killers you have some problem.

I wonder if you are realy MD or a Pasdar ! a MD cannot accept people dying like that!

I don't greet you.

REPLY : LAST SUMMER HANGINGs

it just bothers me to read about those hanged men without the reasons of hangings are explained. However the following facts being said by a GI, well they do not need any explanation about the reason of shooting randomely around on civilians, on Women and children. Please acknowledge the authentic story, hier we go:
GI: We opened random fire on civilians
Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:13:34
A US soldier facing murder charges has confessed that he and other American troops had randomly opened fire on Iraqi civilians.

Private Bruce Bastien told a US Army Criminal Investigation Division "about potential crimes which occurred in Iraq during these soldiers' deployment there."

He admitted to crime investigator Kelly Jameson that he and accomplice Kenneth Eastridge had randomly fired at innocent Iraqi civilians while driving around Baghdad.

According to Bastien, the soldiers used stolen AK-47 military rifles when shooting at civilians.

Bastien is already facing murder charges in the killings of two US Iraq war veterans Spc. Kevin Shields and Pfc. Robert James.

The disclosure has prompted Washington to launch further investigations into US war crimes in Iraq.
It was no secret that GIs shooted roundomely on civilians, they just buried the escaping Iraki soldiers in the second Gulf war in sand and the not any more great satan , laying in its Death bed is dreaming of opening fire on the by Iranians - for me count to that nation the ones who have founded thier ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN, are living there and are willing to protect what they have achieved in the last 30 years - so deeply beloved REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS. It seems that this Dream just fits to be taken to Grave. Greeting.

Typo?

It is "losing it," and not "loosing it!"