Anyway

It's idiotic to say "don't

It's idiotic to say "don't vote".This is what already made Ahmadinejad elected as president.Specially people who don't live in Iran,please shut the hell up and let iranian who live here decide what to do.

vote or no vote! that is the question, right? well,

... I've news for you! there is no such thing to as, if you don't vote then Ahmadinejad will be elected, Ahmadinejad's days are already numbered, as simple as that! finito! so this talk of do the voting or else is pure nonsense!

Shazde aziz! just LOL!

-F

This Election is a Sham

Most people inside and outside of Iran are well aware of the fact that IR Election is a sham and nothing more than a puppet show. The purpose of the so called elections is to give the corrupt, obsolete, and failing regime an appearance of legitimacy.

IR is based on Islamic doctrine and principals and any one who has a basic knowledge of tenets of Islam is well aware that Democracy,elections, and basic human rights as we know it are contrary to the Islamic doctrine. I suggest to the IR apologists and blind supporters who try to cover up the illegitimacy of this regime to read the Quran, the Islamic traditions, as well as historical facts related to this matter. I challenge the same people to name one Islamic state that has true democratic government and its citizens are treated humanely. One example will suffice and please do not start again to blame the West or Israel for all the atrocities that the Islamic governments and nations that commit against their own people.

In conclusion Islamic Democracy is an Oxymoron

Haj jan

Remember, I am doing my best to learn as much as possible about Iran and Iranians. All my notes are in my head. Impressive, if I may humbly say. Huh?

I also, have been told that I have a great memory. :o) When it serves my purpose of course. hahaha At least it is what my little sister says. hahaha

Now to more serious matters. What about my request? Does it seem reasonable?

So, Nathalia jan

You take notes on who said what, where? hmmmm

ALL REAL IRANIANS MUST VOTE

Americans for a Democratic Republic in Iran.

REAL IRANIANS MUST VOTE.

Let every Iranian everywhere get out there and vote.  Any Iranian that does not vote is re-electing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.  More than ever, the future of Iran is at the hands of 70 million voters.  If you are Iranian and you don't vote, you have no right to complain.  The four people in Los Angeles, that have not visited Iran in over 30 years have no right to give any advice.  They should stop making stupid music videos and save their money and get hair transplants.  And while they are at it they should go see a dentist and for the love of almighty God, stay off the Opium.  The Shah's brother was busted for Opium by the police in Los Angeles in the 1980s.  He gave Iranians everywhere a bad name.  It is high time that Iranians everywhere vote for their future elected officials.  If you are in the United States contact the telephone number on www.daftar.org and find out where to vote.  These elections are very important.  The next Iranian President will sip a cup of tea with President Hussein Obama at the White House.  It will be the first time in 100 years that an Iranian government official is really tolerated by the American government.  American historians blasted the Qajar and Pahlavi dynasty as being undemocratic, dictatorial, and barbaric.  Let us show the West that Iranians are civilized.  Iranians everywhere must vote in the Iranian Presidential elections in June 2009.  

God Bless America.  And why not?

Use your RIGHT and VOTE...

Use your Right to Vote.
Or have Ahmadinejad for another 4 years!
It is that simple.

Rocking the vote

Interesting Haj 

 So you plan on rocking the vote. I believe IRANdokht also believes in rocking the vote. I will have to go back and check on the

 vote vs not voting blog

Here is the blog نیروهای ملی در انتخابات ریاست جمهوری شرکت نمی‌کنند

I don't recall you on the thread but I have been swamped with work and might have missed you on the thread. hmmmm

تنها چیزی که

تنها چیزی که میتونم بگویم این است که "دمت" گرم عزیزم.

Oh no, not again! These

Oh no, not again! These mojahed and other so-called "opposition" clowns have started their stupid boycott campaign again.

Khodetoono khasteh nakonid. People WILL exercise their RIGHT to vote.

Shakespearean question

The question is not what you prefer between shoghal and sagueh zard. IR is an obsolete, totalitarian, medieval times regime. Criminals will respond of their crimes in due time. One has to give the time to time as said Mitterrand.

By knowing that Ahmadinejad’s standing into power will increase the chance that Iran will be attacked, and not voting will definitively play in his favour, the question is would you just cross your hands and be spectator of an imminent possible war on Iran?

Personally, I'll feel myself guilty if such a scenario becomes true. That’s why I’ll go to their embassy, use my IRI passport and vote against this boozineh by twice.

David jaan

David jaan,

First and foremost, let me thank you for your excellent and thoughtful posts. I usually agree with what you write. On this issue, I disagree. I look forward to seeing your article here and will read it. If JJ did not post it under articles, please post it in your blog.

1. I do not think there is any doubt for any serious person that the fundamentalist regime lacks legitimacy. Several years ago, even Rafsanjani (who is one of the most deceitful members of the oligarchy) said that if the regime could get about 15 percent of the people supporting it, then it could survive. This clearly indicates that even top leaders of the regime regard their support to be less than 15 percent of the population.

2. In 1997, the people voted for Khatami because it was clear that Khamenei wanted Nategh Nouri to be the president. Rafsanjani was pissed off that the oligarchy did not agree to change the constitution to allow him to run for the 3rd term, so he supported Khatami. His close associate, Karbaschi, then mayor of Tehran, went gong ho in supporting Khatami. That division among the top leadership of the fundamentalist oligarchy was used by the people in voting for Khatami. Knowing full well that the people were sick and tired of the fundamentalist regime, Khatami uses the words and demands of the opposition such as democracy, freedom, and civil society to get their votes. Khatami was and is a trusted member of the fundamentalist oligarchy. His intension was (and is) to prolong the rule of the fundamentalist regime by making a few improvements.

3. By voting, one is granting legitimacy to a system. When a regime is utterly reactionary and dictatorial, as a rule it is best to boycott the election circus. The fundamentalist regime is not a one-man dictatorship. Rather it is an oligarchy (a terribly brutal and fascistic oligarchy). So, if the regime allows one of its trusted members to run and if that fundamentalist person (Khatami, Moussavi, etc) promises x, y or z, then the people may decide to participate and vote for that person in order to reduce the power of another person or faction within the ruling oligarchy.

It would NOT be wise to simply participate in any election that the ruling fascistic regime holds.

This Mir Hussein Mossavi is a particularly odious and criminal person. Moussavi was prime minster during the massacre of political prisoners in 1981-83, when the fascist regime executed something like 12,000 to 20,000 political prisoners. And again in August-September 1988, Moussavi was prime minister when the fascist regime mass executed about 4,500 political prisoners. Many of the political prisoners who were female, were first raped and then executed. The mass rape,  mass torture, and mass murder of political prisoners constitute CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. We know for fact that many Marxist political prisoners were executed after the regime put a Koran in front of them and asked "Do you believe this is the word of Allah?"  These Marxists had to answer "no." In Tehran, the 3-man committee making the decision on which political prisoner should be executed included Hojatolislam Mostafa Pour-Mohammadi. This dude, was a high ranking member of the Ministry of Intelligence. The Minister of Intelligence is a member of the Cabinet. The Head of the Cabinet was Prime Minister Mir Hussein Moussavi.

In sum, Mir Hussein Moussavi is legally, politically and morally responsible for the mass rapes, mass torture, and mass executions in Iran.

If there is justice in this world, then Mir Hussein Moussavi should be sent to the Hague to stand trial for crimes against humanity in the International Criminal Court (ICC). If there is justice in this world, Moussavi should be treated exactly like Milosovitch and Omar al-Bashir.

In my humble opinion, instead of asking the people to vote for a criminal who has committed crimes against humanity against Iranian people, we should be demanding justice; we should be demanding that the ICC issue warrants for the arrests of Moussavi, Ali Khamenei and Rafsanjani.

In my opinion, if we are interested in justice, we Iranians outside should prepare documents and provide them to a decent human rights judge in Spain and ask him or her to initiate ICC proceedings to put on trial those directly responsible for mass torture, mass rape, and mass murder of the Iranian people.

With respect,

MK

آب در هاون کوبیدن

٣٠ساله که این آقایان وخانومهااینجوری خوذشون را دارند جر میدند و ملاها دارند سرو مرو گنده میشند. بزودی هم صاحب بمب اتم خواهند شد و دهن حر چی بدخواه رو سرویس میکنند.
ببخشید اگه چرت بعضی ها پاره شد. این یک حقیقت محضه.

Yawn... another election, another set of Tehrangelesi clowns

trying to dutifully "destroy" the IRI by withholding their precious votes! Worked out so well over the past 30 years! Maybe they don't know anything better.

I look forward to destroying their argument of "support democracy by NOT voting" in upcoming public forums!

Have we finally found something that the hardline Islamists and the Tehrangelesi TV stations are in complete agreement in?

"Get out and vote this time"

  Is the title of the article that I just submitted to Iranian.com. Here is an excerpt of it:

"...After 30 years in power, not voting no longer questions the legitimacy of the Islamic Republic as it has not in the past, but voting for the most moderate elements, in masses sends a strong message to those within and outside Iran that Iranians do NOT approve of extremism and if they are given even a small room to express their true wish, they will..."

If it gets published, read it! 

Videos on Boycotting the Psuedo-election

A Leftist group on boycotting the psuedo-election:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASgSAi_Iio&feature=related

I have no idea who made this, but sounds good:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pSlbhjk9OI&feature=related

from the same group:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfL75uHS5r8&feature=related

excellent video:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkgvSDp9Zc&feature=related

آقا اجازه، ما یه سٔوال داریم!

رو این پلاکارد خانوم چادری نوشته:

"صیغه شیرین‌ترین لذتی ست که نصیب زن مسلمان میشود ... فاطمه زهرا"

 این رو واقعا در ایرون میگویند، یا مسخره بازی سازنده فیلم است؟

I bet he's a closet ahmadinejad supporter

How else can you make people like Ahmadinejad win? By not voting.

انتخاب چی‌، کشک چی‌، پشم کی‌؟

سگ زرد برادر شغاله

موسوی و احمدی گوساله.

امت خر عقل درست نداره

 سر به نیایش آخوند میذاره.

رای من و رای شما نداره

 همش مال رهبر خر سواره!

That's a point

It's an important point to consider in any election, specially the one that so many people have systematic problem from its base. Yet an important point to consider is whether the entire system truly cares if many don't show up. The legitimacy of the system is not in danger, since realistically more than 50% of the population will participate. Now, going for even the thought of those who preach, not practice, but just preach the concepts that deals with freedom and democracy, social openness, shows to the system and ultimately the world what people in Iran want and will support.

At this point in time, I rather have opposition gradually included in the system rather than opposition be one group, IR another working exclusively. The route to democracy in the future of Iran will be better with the thought of including all parties, and this method is the least costly in the long run.

I understand that many disagree and their point is understood. However, the gradual reform is possible, specially in Iran.  

Catchy song :)