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Gee Major...Have you ever herd of the AMERICAN CIVIL WAR???

Thousands of Confederate soldiers were "Forgiven" for fighting for the confederacy and their citizenship was restored....But a funny thing happened in the south that led up to the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's.... Jim Crow Laws were enacted against FORMER SLAVES for being the wrong color...

I see similar things happening in IRAN  it might be legal to be Baha'i but the same fate happens to hapless Baha'is that befell African Americans between the 1880's and the 1960's   ....

go read history..... 

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I agree with Benross that:

This is a cult. A group of doomed people. Yet they are all children of Iran, and they were, at some point, the bravest of all. They may be far out now in their thoughts, but we should remember the story of their becoming. 

These people made mistakes or committed crimes, but they have renounced violence and laid down the arms. They are the victims of a cult. They have given up everything for their "cause"....including their love life......I hope they can be de-programmed, re-assimilate into the society, re-join their parents or brothers/sisters, and become the productive members of the society!

Thank you, Benross, for your very kind comments!

Delaram Banafsheh (Yolanda)

"Cactus in the Desert"

Repatriate

There are former camp members that have been successfully repatriated to Iran (imagine any other nation willing to forgive traitors of war back to their original homeland- you'll be hard pressed to think of one.)

The camp members should be repatriated en masse to Iran. Barring that, if a Western nation(s) wishes to absorb an active terrorist group, with all the potential complications that entails, so be it. 

But it looks like the free ride in Iraq is ending. And with it, the group cohesiveness of this cult/terrorist collection of traitors.

Fact

Is that, As it was seen in the clip. They see this as their Home and the place they belong too and more than likely they will fight for it to the end, with their lives and blood.

The US and even some european countries, Should settle the "illegal Immigration" problem and those who alreay reside in these countries and Pay their dues (despite being illegal) before taking on the obligation and Responsibility of housing a group, with Obvious warrior-mentality, dedicated to their cause (which is not necessarily what iran needs).

It would be better if The pressure is instead placed on the iraqui government by americans to provide them a safe haven inside iraq, where they realy love to be.

Yes, but!

European Union and the United States should accept them as refugees and allow them to leave Camp Ashraf on the humanitarian basis.

But, Masood and Maryam Rajavi and top leaders of MKO should be brought to the international court for their role in putting these people in this predicament and the crimes against humanity for their misdeeds against Iranian (and Iraqi) people, same as the IRI leaders.  

BTW, anyone know where's Masood Rajavi (Waldo)?

They should also be required

They should also be required to go through psychological treatment

Agreed.

One of the reasons they don't feel welcome anywhere else is us. We treat them as 'traitors' who fought against Iran. This is one interpretation and anybody who fought during the war has every right to feel that way.

But there are those who fled Iran before the war, during the war, did everything to spare their children from entering the army during the war and yet in the name of 'nationalism' call these brave children of Iran 'traitors'.

For a moment, forget about their leaders, and the thoughts that would choose such leaders. In the substance, it wasn't much different of the political culture of all of us. One must not forget that the order was already out by Khomeini to exterminate MOK and they did just that, massively, killing thousands and thousands of supporters of MOK, and those who ended up in Iraq, were only seeking a fighting chance, full of hatred for Khomeini and  sense of revenge for their fallen brothers and sisters. This is all too human to be ignored by armchair critics. And of-course, their fight was doomed. They sacrificed everything to stand tall in front of Khomeini, and lost everything along it.

This is a cult. This is a group of people, among the most honest and bravest of all of us, which undergone such deep emotional distress that it couldn't possibly be endured if it wasn't shared and entertained in a cult like collectivity, with the one and only people who could possibly understand what they were going through.

This is a cult. A group of doomed people. Yet they are all children of Iran, and they were, at some point, the bravest of all. They may be far out now in their thoughts, but we should remember the story of their becoming. It's our story.

JJ

I don't know about Europe, but US asylum laws are extremely complicated, and in all likelihood will not apply to Camp Ashraf residents.  The UNHCR, however, can resettle them as refugees in the U.S. (and other countries) who are signatories to UN human rights treaties, if it classifies them as refugees and grants them protection.  There are number and time limitations, however.  But whatever is done, it should be under UN auspices.  Otherwise, we are bound to see a humanitarian disaster.  

Asylum

The European Union and the United States must accept Camp Ashraf residents as refugees. Anything less would be tragic and could even lead to bloodshed for which the Western powers will share significant responsibility.

UNHCR

I think that the UNHCR should take over this project and resettle them as refugees, which they really are, in various countries.  They should also be required to go through psychological treatment, especially of the type that deals with cults.

Mind boggling

Are they claiming ownership of the place??

The lease is up, and the landlord is not renewing it.

I would really like to hear their reasoning for this one.