Discrimination in Holland

Iranian students take legal action



Russia Today: Iranian students in the Netherlands are taking the Dutch state to court. They say they have been excluded from certain courses and places, because of UN sanctions against their native country - a situation the students insist is discriminatory and against in breach of their human rights.

Behnam Taebi is leading the campaign against the measures. Hes doing a PhD in science and engineering, and wants to make sure others also have the opportunity.

The Dutch government is unique in interpreting it this way. Students are not mentioned in the resolution and it says nothing about Iranian Dutch people, and this is what were opposing, he said.

Taebi rallied together with a group of Iranian students from across the country who are determined to fight for their rights: students like Kawa Bitaraf, who has lived in the Netherlands since he was four and has never had an Iranian passport.

27-Feb-2009
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Majid

آتش بس!

Majid


 

دعوا با هیشکی ندارم


Ali P.

Majid jaan Afghan has a good point

by Ali P. on

Haneous crimes are always being committed by somebody.

Hispanics, illegal aliens committ some of these haneuos crimes in the USA, and you don't see a riot! A Riot to kill and throw away the hispanics? Come one!!!

The culprits are apprehended and put on trial. And that's how civilized societies react to these events.


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Agents! huh?

by Fatollah (not verified) on

Agents? I liked that! Aziz-e man eshtebah moltafet shodeen! On what ground are you accusing others for being liars and agents? Believe me khar-gir jaan, you should examine your attitudes a bit closer first before labelling someone or a group of people as liars and agents in here! I thought leading life as an immigrant for some 20-30 years would force most to expand their horizon a bit and think twice before uttering remarks like that, but then again I was wrong!

And don't put words in my mouth, I have never endorsed sanctions towards Iran under IR! Ok?

ps! Is that your new profession or did you inherit the noble trade of khar-giri from your father?

Fatollah


Shazde Asdola Mirza

مجید جون، بالا غیرتن کوتاه بیا!

Shazde Asdola Mirza


بابا اون بیچاره هم راست میگه و تو هم حق داری، ولی‌ این حرفا درست نیست؛ واگر نه آمریکای‌ها میبایست همه ایرونیا و مسلمونا رو واسه گروگان گیری، لبنان و ۱۱ سپتامبر، اعدام میکردند!

ما در مقابل غربیا، حکم افغانی‌ها رو داریم در ایران!  اگه با اینها نتونیم کنار بیام، که ۲۵۰۰ سال جزو ایرون بودند، دیگه خیلی‌ ضایعه!

آقایون جون من همدیگر رو ببخشید؛ یه دست به هم بدید و یه دست هم به ما، ایولله!


Majid

My dear Afghaan FRIEND! Namak khor & namakdaan shekan!

by Majid on

You say.....

"If what you described happened in Holland, those students will be arrested and prosecuted. Average Iranian on the streets of Holland will not pay the price. Good Afghans pay for the sins of bad Afghans, every day in Iran."

 

I say......BS

After such a horrible crime in ANY country in the WORLD......there would be such a riot against everyone from that country (Afghaanestaan in this case) that you would buy an spider hole for one million dollar !

Thanks to stupidity and "bi vatani, bi tafaavoti" of mullahs and hospitality of Iranians, that EVERY SINGLE ONE of you were not hung!

BTW. Hoping that you understand Farsi........"raah baaz....jaaddeh deraaz"

Everyone single one of you crossed the border illegally, if you have no "RIGHTS" in Iran, what stops you from going back?


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Afghan "friend" my a$$$

by khar-gir (not verified) on

isn't it funny how these fakers only reveal themselves when its an important point to be made based on their background.

I fully expect to see some Azeri and Kurdish "friends" come to the party.

These are all lying agents. They are not who they claim to be. The same lying agents who always say sanctions only hurts the IRI, not the people.

This is just the beginning of what this useless sanctions policy will do to Iranians everywhere.


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Boycott KLM!!!

by Anonymous8 (not verified) on

the Iranian and middle eastern traffic alone would bring that company to its knees


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moslems/iranians do not deserve equal treatment

by bj (not verified) on

well we come from a country that have no undrestanding and respect for homan rights and human dignity. how dare are you? you and your parents were on street of tehran in 1979 fighting for this system which abolish women rights,bringing our country to primitive ages and destroying our reputation and dignity in the world. how many times you and your parents criticize other religios beliefs.when moslems /iranian are in other countries/west they keep talking about freedom and equal rights but when they go to their native country defenitely they join the crowd.i think the west should treat all moslems/iranians according ro their native land constitution.then we may start changing our mind set and start changing our native land.


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some people have such a

by Fatollah (not verified) on

some people have such a short memory, Von Gough? Remember?

While shot in the stomach, he begged for his life on his knees, the bastard crazed son of b. cut his throat!

Ma ers-e pedareem ono az een bisharafa ke naftemoon o moft o majanee bordan mikhaym!

Mosht nemoon-e kharvar, see how we treat our Afghani cousins in iran!

And racism? What a noble concept!


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What the Dutch government is

by Dutch hater (not verified) on

What the Dutch government is doing against these students is pure discrimination and against the human rights. The Dutch government argues that these students may learn and gather nuclear knowledge and then transfer it to the Iranian government so that their nuclear activities are facilitated. That's why these students are deprived of those courses. This is just condemning them before they have done anything against the laws. How do you know that they will do that in the future? It is just a prejudice and not legitimate. I believe that the Dutch authorities are aware of this but they can do nothing about it because it is imposed on them by the Americans. If Iran is such a dangerous country why do the Dutch companies business with Iran then? How do you declare this contradiction?


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That's bull...

by Dutch Lover (not verified) on

Our welfare system rocks!


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Your welfare system is

by Dutch hater (not verified) on

Your welfare system is sometimes used to suppress the people specially the Dutch coming from other nationalities. If they don't like to do what your racist government wants then they become isolated in that system and should live in the margin. So don't try to show off with your welfare system.


Mola Nasredeen

Divide and Conquer

by Mola Nasredeen on

 

 

1. There are people/agents on this site who pose as Afghan, Kurd, Azari, Arab, etc and they are non of the above. Their goal is to set us up against each other.

2. Euroupeans are racist and it goes back to their colonialist past and present. Look at what they have been doing to Iraqies, Afghan people, Palestinians, etc and now it's Iranians turn. What else can you expect from these people. Iranian student are doing the right thing standing up for their rights. Thanks for posting the clip.


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Dutch hater

by Anonymousx (not verified) on

Afghan is right, as an Iranian I should say when it comes to racism nobody can hold the candle to Iranians. We are a racist nation. You say Dutch don't respect the human rights, as if human rights are respected in Iran. And I hope so far you have enjoyed the welfare system in Netherlands.


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Mr afghan. You can not have

by Dutch hater (not verified) on

Mr afghan. You can not have any respond because you know that what I said is right. You afghans are just lucky because the Iranian regime is not a real Iranian regime and holds your crimes hidden in many situations in order to protect you afghans. I don't hate anybody except liars and hirelings that don't respect the people who have been nice to them for decades. If your people are not satisfied of Iranians you may ask your American master to send some planes to Iran and take you all to America. We Iranians are not in love with you.


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Gracious host

by Afghan (not verified) on

Mr Majid:
Thank you for defining rasicm again for us: Penalizing all, for the actions of some. That's what fueled, and still does fuel, racism in America: Many examples of Black people doing bad things and ending up in jail. So "screw them. They are all scums".
If what you described happened in Holland, those students will be arrested and prosecuted. Average Iranian on the streets of Holland will not pay the price. Good Afghans pay for the sins of bad Afghans, every day in Iran.

Nader khan:
Every guest owes the host some respect. You are Iranian and a guest in America or Europe, and you should be thankful. At the same time, if they mistreat you, you have a right to speak up.

Dutch hater:
I have no respond who is a selfproclaimed "hater". Good luck to you.


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MR afghan! for your

by Dutch hater (not verified) on

MR afghan! for your information the Dutch self say officially that the average Iranian who lives in the Netherlands is much higher educated than the average domestic Dutch. Thus the Netherlands profits a lot of the presence of Iranians in the Netherlands. What about your afghan people who live in Iran? Most of them are illiterate and can not even write their own names. Most of them inter illegal to the Iranian territory and don't introduce themselves to the Iranian police till they are arrested for a criminal act (murder, drug dealing, rape and so on). Thus try to be reasonable and don't compare yourself with Iranians.

Where has the united nations said that the Iranian DUTCH people may be discriminated because of the Iranian Islamic government? I would like to know that. The only reason that the Iranians are discriminated in the Netherlands is that that country is ruled by a bunch of paranoid people who don't respect the human rights.


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RESPECT

by Nader Khan (not verified) on

Afghan khan
be respectful .
Iran has been very nice to you guys.

Respect


Majid

Spare ME.....my Afghaan "FRIEND" !....LOL

by Majid on

My afghaani "friend"

(1361).....12 Afghaans in the city of Khaash "Baloochestaan province" break into a house of a newly weds , after beheading "daamaad", they rape "aroos", behead her afterwards and.......... 

Cut OFF their fingers, just to steal their wedding rings!!!

I'm sure those couple were thinking......"it's OK....we share the same language, same culture, same race and same....." 

AND...........  

"We Afghans have no freaking rights in Iran, and we share the same color, same race,same history, same language, and same religion with you Iranians.

The Dutch are princes , compared to you people.
Shame on you Iranians.
Shame!"

I wonder what your "Dutch princes" would do if these students did.......

Oh well......just ignore me, my "FRIEND"!!


 


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Spare me, will you?

by Afghan (not verified) on

Boo hoo....Iranian students can't enroll in cetain university classes, and you all are calling the Dutch racist?

We Afghans have no freaking rights in Iran, and we share the same color, same race,same history, same language, and same religion with you Iranians.

The Dutch are princes , compared to you people.
Shame on you Iranians.
Shame!


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Why are you guys so quick to

by Anonymousx (not verified) on

Why are you guys so quick to label this as racism. Well get use to this, Shazdeh said it right; gonah kard dar balkh .....
This is all because of the UN sanctions and yes I do travel through Amsterdam and have never ever been subjected to racism. You want change go ask the Iranian government to do something about it and good luck with that. You are going through all this s... because of IRI. Hell you even were not tolerated in Iran and that's why you are here, just remember that.


capt_ayhab

Racist pigs

by capt_ayhab on

What do you expect from a country who has Geert Wilders as member of parliament, and who has been leading the worst hate propaganda against 1.5 Billion Muslim.

Everyone should galvanize and protest this shameful racist act directly to their embassy:

Ambassador Renée Jones-Bos

4200 Linnean Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20008
1-877-DUTCHHELP (phone)
1-877-388-2443 (phone)
202-362-3430 (fax)

//www.netherlands-embassy.org/homepage.asp

I have already done so.

-YT


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Ah.. One needs to only have

by Teymoorian (not verified) on

Ah.. One needs to only have a flight connection in Amsterdam airport to know what kind of jerks they are. They make the Germans look very friendly and tolerant. That's how racist most Dutch people are. Amsterdam itself is a huge exception. I for myself will never fly via Holland to other parts of the world. They don't care that you are an American citizen. They treat you like crap in your face, and then joke about it!


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How can we help??

by ns (not verified) on

I am disgusted by what is happening in Holland. How can we help these guys to fight the racist policies of the Dutch government?


John

"revolting students"

by John on

Yes indeed, some students and teenagers often seem revolting to us older folk.  Many students are also rebellious and can be found rebelling.


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i feel ashamed.

by water (not verified) on

oh no... what happend to the Dutch government????


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Great

by Reza Khaneh Mir Five (not verified) on

Proud of these revolting students. I think Iranian government regardless of what it stands for should spend a lot of the oil money and advertise for university professors and scientists to teach at the Iranian universities at a crazy high salaries. This will attract a lot of scientists and teachers who are well underpaid in the west.

Invest in knowledge.


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Dutch racism

by Dutch hater (not verified) on

The Dutch government is racist. They don't exclude only the Iranian students from those courses but also exclude the Dutch of the Iranian origin from the governmental good positions except those who are serving the Dutch intelligent service.


ramintork

Terrible, just aweful!

by ramintork on

This is a very silly interpretation of the sanctions and shows the degree of ignorance of Dutch authorities in how International Terrorism works.

So does this stop a Morrocan or Pakistani, a Bosnian or a West Indian, East European nuclear scientist help regimes such as Iran obtain security risk scientific University kowledge?

They don't seem to need anyone, with the money they spend they seem to be able to buy anyone in the market!

It is just a demonstration of the mood within the country but it is making the poor students suffer.

I hope the Dutch come to their senses.

 

 


Ostaad

This is a huge case of discrimination against the citizens of...

by Ostaad on

a country based on their country of origin. These guys are saying they are Dutch citizens therefore they have a good chance of winning this thing in Holland. Even if they don't make it in Holland, which I doubt very much because Holland has pretty progressive laws, they can make an international human rights violation lawsuit against the government of Holland. I don't think other European offenders, who were alluded to by the Dutch gentleman, will like this case to see the light of day, let alone serve as a legal precedence.

These kids are certainly smart enough to have covered the legal angles and are now getting prepared to take it to court.

I salute them for standing up for their rights.