It's not stealing...

... it just looks that way

It's not stealing...
by Afsaneh Bahrami
11-Jan-2009
 

The Palestinians have been suffering for over 50 years. Their experiences if nothing else, proves one thing. If you are going to get mugged, get mugged when you are alone.

That way, when the guy grabs your wallet provoking you to knee him in the groin and he recoils in pain so you're able to grab your wallet back, no one is going to think the worst of you.

From Beijing to Portland, from Brazil to Alaska, every lawful society acknowledges the in-alienable right of self-defense. The mugger is the aggressor and the one being mugged is the victim. Case closed.

However, should you have the misfortune, much like the Palestinians and you're mugged while in a group, you're out of luck. It would seem, witnesses to the Collective Mugging are at loss to demonstrate a rational response.

Mega Media is provocative and mind-numbing, so much so, it can near decimate the general public's capacity for simple logic. If it's wrong to mug one person, then it is that much more wrong and offensive to mug a collective of people.

Not if you are Palestinian and your mugger is the collective called the Zionist mob and their tool the Israeli settler.

The Collective Mugger grabs for your collective wallet, so as a collective of Palestinians you resist, you try to get your wallet back. You look around for support, not even logistical support, perhaps just moral support would be enough.

But all you get are accusations and charges that as a collective of Palestinians who are nothing more than violent, reactionary terrorists. Then they throw white phosphorous at your kids.

Why? Because as a collective of individual Palestinians, you didn't want to be separated from your Palestinian wallets?

PS: I might add that 'mugging' as an analogy fails.

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i'm not sure how a kid who

by Afsaneh (not verified) on

i'm not sure how a kid who inherits a bad problem is to blame for the problem...whoever feeds you, trains you too.

If the Palestinians never had a state, why is the place called Palestine? Why wasn't it called, New Turkey or something?

Who are the Jordanians. Why are they called Jordians. Who comes up with these names?

Are Arabs as confused about their identity as I am?


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Awful

by Visitor (not verified) on


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why weman and children not

by king david (not verified) on

why weman and children not given safe passage out ?

because isreal want them to be there to play with cluster bomblets , cluster bomblets will teach kids not to pick up objects to throw at them

310 out of 315 american congresmman bought by isreal , so you think buying arab brothers be harder ? hell i sell myself to israel if they pay me enough

qassam rockets is for domestic consumption , they need to boost moral of thier dieing , hungry , scared people , remember gaza was under seige for years before ..


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Where are the pictures of the killed Hamas terrorists?

by Goosht e dam e toop (not verified) on

Why don't they show any pictures of the killed Hamas terrorists? like the picture of that bastard Hamas terrorist who had four wives and 15 children and got killed along with two of his wives?! the whole world reported the news!

At least Israeli government values the lives of their own Jewish Israeli citizens, Hamas does not seem to value the lives of the Palestinian people otherwise they would recognize Israel, join the peace initiative with Mahmood Abbas and put a stop to this never-ending madness.


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when you iranians going to care about suffering in Iran

by someone (not verified) on

I am just tired of seeing post after post about palestinians and their pain. I never saw such an intense sympathy for victims of violance, cruelty and human rights abuse in Iran.
Don't eat your heart out for palestinians. IRI has already taken care of them. The palestinian families who have lost relative will be compensated by IRI with the stolen money from iranian people. stop crying for arabs who brought us the misrey of isalm.


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Violence

by Ajam (not verified) on

Indeed, Israel believs that violence does pay! That is why it is trying to upstage any other terrorist entity in the world by commiting to istitutionalized violence under the banner of "self defence." Israel's main objective is not destroying Hamas, but to instill enough fear in the Gazan people to finally agree to a "peace treaty" on Israel's terms!


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Of course, the problem is

by sickofiri (not verified) on

Of course, the problem is that not only will imagination and above all flexibility be required on the Israeli side, but also on the Palestinian side: this seems also to be in especially short supply. One group especially fugs the creative impulse with its claim that violence pays, a viewpoint of which it needs to be disabused radically if any progress is to be made.


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Israel is digging its own

by Seana (not verified) on

Israel is digging its own grave. History has shown this fact repeatedly. No brutal regime can survive long enough to enjoy peace, and Israel is no exception. The Zionist butchers will go down the toilet of history as the most hated beasts for generations to come.


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Israeli death machine...

by JoeThePlummer (not verified) on

Israel is targeting and killing women, men, and children with such eagerness and zeal that it makes humanity wonder perhaps the survivors of Nazi crimes carried the Nazi death machine with them into Palestine during their bloody occupation of Palestine.

I saw the dark-hearted Israeli foriegn minister the other night on TV assuring us all with an evil, cold smile that there are no humanitarian crises in Gaza. I guess she meant that killing 900 people and wounding a few thousnad is just childplay with Israeli standards.

Israel will not rest until it drags the whole world into a nuclear war in which millions of the people of the Middle East will be the first target of Israeli nuclear arsenal. I bet you will see Israeli leaders on TV with the same smile informing the world that there are no crises.


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Suffering not Analogy is the issue!

by Nokteh (not verified) on

I wish we cut through the ... and get to the point that people's suffering shouldn't be a headline grabbers and reasons for more analogies, applicable or not. Palestinians along with many other groups are suffering across the globe but we don't want to "collectively" attend the issue. As Mr. Moghadam indicated, the so called Arab brothers have not so far given a hoot about Palestinians then why should so called their enemy?! Again we need to have a collective attitude in attending issues globaly and let the headlines deal with Britney Spears and Michael Jackson's personal lives.

The picture depicted here tells a thousands story. The news and social norms have desensitized us towards pain and suffering as long as it is not ours and if it is then we have hundereds of choices off the shelves to numb it out or other inovative ways...

Our wake-up call will eventually come, hope we can collectively show others how to deal with it.


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Even more analogy!

by Ajam (not verified) on

What if the bandit who's holding you up is armed to the teeth?! Then kneeing him in the crutch will not work. The remining options would be either disarming the thief, or let go of your wallet and look for a chance, hit him back with what you have to wear him out and erode his ability to spend your cash!

Evidently, in the world we live in, with the first option being off the table, the second option is working better for Palistinians!!


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Bad analogy and lost me towards the end!

by farrad02 on

You analogy is not fitting and even if by a stretch we try and fit it here, then it ignores a lot of history and events that have happened since 1948. One thing that we all need to remember is that after the intital establishment of Israel as a country (right or wrong), a lot of the land they now hold was aquired as spoils of war. Some of those wars were started by Arabs and they lost to Israel. Then there are political details and mismanagement on the part of Palestinian and Arab leaders throughout the history of this conflict. For example, it is a well known and documented fact that Clinton almost had the peace deal wrapped in the 1990's but Yasser Arafat got greedy and refused to finalize the settlement to which he had already agreed!

So, although I agree that Israel is in the wrong in its handling of this situation, but one can not ignore the weight of history and what has happened to get us where we are. We can't simplify it by using analogies like yours!


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Bad Analogy! Very Bad Analogy!

by Babak Moghadam (not verified) on

First,

"From Beijing to Portland, from Brazil to Alaska, every lawful society acknowledges the in-alienable right of self-defense."

Beijing (China)is a lawful society? Executing prisoners for their body parts is what a "lawful" society commits?

Second, the Palestinians never had a "wallet". They never had a State. Most of the land belonged to the Turks and Turkish empire. What today is called "Jordan" was also part of historic "Palestine" and when the Palestinians tried to get a piece of that "Wallet", they were ruthlessly killed by the Jordanians. It was called Black September.

Third, They were given a "wallet" but with the stupid actions of their Arab bothers, they refused this wallet.

Fourth, parts of the wallet was in Arab hands until 1967. Why didn't the Palestinians grab this Wallet when it was in Arab hands? There were no Settlers prior to 1967.

Fifth, Israelis took advantage of Arab failures. They realized that 99% of the law is possession. They have Possession of this Wallet and are using it as a tool for negotiations to protect their own Wallets.

Sixth, in "lawful Societies" deadly force is not allowed to get your wallet back. That is why rock throwing at Israeli soldiers in the first Intifada worked and Suicide bombings and Rocket Shooting by Hamas at civilians does not work.

Finally, both sides are to blame.

P.S.

I am looking forward to the personal attacks.