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Anonymous Fish: Caroline Kennedy comes to mind. I like her. Check up on her when you get a chance - she writes poetry.

The Cindy Lauper clip was good Davood. Right on :)
And thanks David ET. I've always enjoyed your posts.

I agree with you. :-)

It was something I heard years ago when my sister went to Ballinrobe which is where my dad's family is from. 

The story goes that green is the color of faeries who were believed to steal children who wear too much green.

Who knows... another old wives tale.  :-)

Iran Go Bragh!! (Iran Forever!!)

When the Dublin Police Department sent some representatives to march in the St. Patrick Day parade here a few years ago, they were wearing green shamrocks tucked into their "caubeen" (hats). I don't think I've met too many Irishmen on the stateside who think green is "unlucky."

Sleinte!! As a Baha'i, I only drink the "wine of astonishment" but there's plenty of that to go around!!!

Of course its worth contemplating how closely the name "Erin" (ancient name of Ireland) and "Iran" actually are.(both descended from the same wily old Indo-Aryans, no doubt.

Another Revolutionary Song by Americans

Americans for a Democratic Republic in Iran.

Revolutionary Songs?

Check out the following clip:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTtelwOgscM

what?

Going around in circles isn't your thing?  :-)  My dear... that's exactly what you ARE doing.  I haven't got a clue what you're talking about and it has nothing to do with knowing persian philosophy.  Your "horrible" comment came out of the blue and I simply do not understand your point. 

Anyhoo.  Wasting more time on this is pointless.  The bottom line is that we all seem to agree that U2 is awesome!

anonymous fish and Irish Lassie

I'm up for two now. Drumroll...

Irish Lassie, glad to see you take a stand...
U2 is internationally recognized, as well as 'green!'

anonymous fish: Listen, listen, listen: Learn more Persian/Philosophy and you'll know what I mean. Going in circles is not my style :)

Green is also a symbol of the Muslim faith, as any 'good muslim' would know. I have respect for those who practice it faithfully AND value women's rights, as well as all religions that respect my rights as a woman. One issue that is important to me personally is inheritance laws. (and this has been brought up on IC before). Luckily for me personally, I come from a background that values women's rights. But I'm not going to give too much more away on that. Suffice it to say, 'Somethings' are sacred.

امیدوارم هر دو تون بتونین اینو بخونین

رنگ سبز روی درخت‌ها از بدو ابدیت وجود داشته

Most important of all,

I've heard U2 loud and clear.

Cheers!

Irish lassie

Mo chara!  How wonderful to hear from you!  Did you know that the green in the flag actually symbolizes the catholic or nationalist tradition?  And that green is considered an unlucky color in Ireland but is used as an expression of hope!!! 

Slainte!

Sakineh.  So what did you think I was saying that was horrible?  And I'm still not sure what you mean by "higher order".  :-)

Green!

Green expressed Irish desire for self-determination in the 19th century (and beyond). In the time of the Irish Rebellion of 1798, wearing a shamrock was a sign of rebellion. Green was the color of the Society of the United Irishmen, an Irish republican organisation. During the period, wearing green was made punishable by hanging.

So it was moving to see the green crowds expressing themselves in Iran. Having struggled for centuries to obtain freedom, the Irish retain a long memory of their struggle and naturally feel sympathetic to any movement in support of self-determination.

My heart goes out to Iran in double sense; I am an Irish-American Baha'i. The color green is also important to us as Baha'is.

The Bab wore a green turban and sash(cummerbund).

Mullá Husayn, the first Bábi, wore the Bab's green turban by command of his Master while hoisting the Black Standard, the unfurling of which Babi's believed heralded the advent of the "Vicerengent of God on earth."

Mulla Husayn is remembered for wearing this green turban mounted on his horse, leading 202 Babi's to assist another famous Babi, Quddús, in the Jazíriy-i-Khadrá (Verdant Isle) located in a forest of Mazindarán.

anonymous fish

By now, you most certainly know why so many choose to write anonymously (yourself included), or unregistered. You can call it two-facism, two-faceted, etc. Whatever works to protect their security. In a perfect world they should be able to convey their points free and not under cover. You know this issue has been discussed many times here already, and now that is beside the point.

People are expressing themselves, reporting, and generating ideas, under any guise. That's what matters. As for Iran, the world is responding. Major artists are in it. They've been for a while by the way...but that for a later time.

Yes, women ruled the world and they can again... Women's cerebral abilities are without a doubt...before someone calls me fascist I'll end the sentence here. You get the point. Because of our struggle as a species with monthly menstruation, and childbirth, not to mention a fierce biological need to protect our kin after we give birth, we have developed certain cerebral capabilities that are somewhat...I'll quit again. Some might wonder why is it then that we DON'T rule the world. Physical limitations that accompany those two factors (and this has been brought up before on IC) are the culprit - therefore we often end up passing our wisdom to our spouses, children, etc. The male offspring thus perpetually become enabled, while female ones struggle for the reasons hence put forward.

Holly Schmolly. I think we may have stumbled upon a breakthrough in all of humanity. Someone put these lines into music...laboratories around the world...get to work. Historians ... become hertorians.

I'm on a roll....

Satire aside, there have been plenty of men throughout history who have stood up for women's ritghs, including JJ himself, as well as so many others who contribute in their own special ways. But ultimately, it is women who will have to stand up for each other if they'd want to achieve significant strides, including presidency of a country...

...enabling goes around both ways ;)

Hey, Anonymous Fish - thanks for engaging me in on this. Seriously.

BTW, I doubt Facebook 2.0 will appear anytime soon since the current version ran pretty smooth :)

S.B.

sakineh

Merely making the point that U2 has made their career supporting political or human rights issues.  There have been many comments criticizing several performers who have come out recently supporting the protest in Iran.  I've never made those criticisms myself because I believe that ANY and ALL support is important and critical.  I was just being a little facetious in that you can't say that about U2.  There is nothing hypocritical about their support... hypocritical OR two-faced.

Now... your turn.  :-)

You first. Explain what you

You first. Explain what you mean by "media ..."

sakineh

what in the world are you talking about?  i'm sorry... i don't understand what your point is.  Please explain.  thanks!

anonymous fish

That's horrible!

Stick to women's rights (of higher order) please.
Brave media women, professional as well as aspiring are spending their time/energy to reflect pressing issues.

Supporting them would be a nice gesture.

As an American woman, married to an Iranian, understanding "Bikineh," would be a good for you. It has a double-meaning in Persian, a satirical stab at injustice, something Iranians have fought against for centuries. As such, they've perfected exhibitionism in forms of highly praised and studied literature (dating back 1200 years), music, dance, and other art, including in more recent years, film.

U2 is indeed a politically inclined group which has inspired many throughout the years. With this gesture, they've proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

...I just took a break from posting this and visited you under The Mrs. Good - you catch on fast. Your job is now to get more women on this. And please don't forget "higher order" .... that's satire not sarcasm.

way to go U2

at least no one will be able to accuse U2 of being a media whore...

their entire career has been based on political injustice.  so proud of them!

To: Death_To_Fascism

Sorry to have to tell you this, but Pink Floyd won't reunite for this cause or any other reason, as it is physically impossible. I would probably have been among the first in line for tickets, as much of a fan of the Floyd as I am.

Keyboardist Rick Wright passed away in September of 2008.

Perhaps you might have better luck enticing Roger Waters to get involved. The Wall is essentially his composition (with some contributions by David Gilmour), and he has modified it on a few occasions, notably at the Berlin Wall.

Mousavi and the Reform Movement, what might be next?

Americans for a Democratic Republic in Iran.

U2 and a host of others have backed the Iranian Reform movement.

There was Karoubi and Khatami...

now there is Mousavi.

That is three.  These are the father, son and the holy ghost of the reform movement.

They are in close alliance to former Islamic Republic of Iran President Rafsanjani.

It was the same Rafsanjani who received an autographed copy of the Bible from former U.S. President Reagan.

Now, more than ever is the time for direct US-Iran talks.

Class Act

U2 has always been a class act!

Dameshoon garm! (Good for them!)

Yep see it now

Sorry, my broadband was down last night so I couldn't watch this. That's really cool!!

Love U2 from the moment I heard them in early 80s.

Love on Earth and for all mankind who respect and practice consciousness, freedom & peace...

Reza (Tehran, Iran)

To Death_To_Fascism

I'm with you on that, Roger Waters had mentioned in previous interviews that if there was very good cause he might reunite with the rest of band members and do a benefit/awareness concert. But that was before the passing of Rick Wright.
These guys have done a lot of charity work through out their career, if they actually reunited just once to do a concert for the freedom of Iran, it would be a massive global televised event. Maybe Reza Pahlavi can use his wealth to get this event organized.

thanks U2

Thanks for keeping the attention alive....every voice against the IR regime is a dagger..
Thanks David for posting

Thanks David!

for posting.  wonderful song.

payandeh Iran & Iranians

Down with IRI  

What differnece between rock concert and Namz-e Jomeh?

Dear darius45

Why do't you grow up for 1 second. Why don't you try to feel like a human. If you do not know what to say, just stay out and say nothing. What ashame to know there people like you in the world.

darius45

What's the name of the rock you're under?

It better to keep quiet and

It better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to comment and be proven one.

you're an imbecile.

What differnece between rock concert and Namz-e Jomeh?

I really don't see much deference between the BS slogans in Namaz-e Jomeh and slogans in Rock concerts.

Go to rock concert to smoke, dance, sex, and fun. Go to Namaz Jomeh for prayer. Don't mix things up.

Politics is about rational decision making, negotiation, compromise. Music, religion, poetry, etc has no business in it.

Think and evaluate for yourself and your interest then make the best compromise with others. Don't let marketing of rock music, or preachers in Namz Jomeh make up your mind.

Ramtin

Don't you see the lyrics in Persian on the green screen?

Thanks U2 - thanks David

Every voice counts! Every action counts!

This is cool

But Iranians don't own the color green.
I didn't watch the video but did he say anything in support of the people of Iran or the "green movement"
It's like those guys on YouTube thinking that Snickers ad from 2007 with the green and red traffic men had something to do with the recent riots.

WOW ... TASHAKOR ! ;0)

Incredible !

Thanks for Sharing !

DK