BBC: Iranian state television has broadcast a statement by a captured Sunni rebel leader in which he alleges he had American support. It is not possible to say whether the man, Abdolmalek Rigi, made the statement freely or under coercion. The US has denied having links with the group, Jundullah. In the tape, Mr Rigi alleged the US had promised to provide his group with military equipment and a base in Afghanistan, near the Iranian border >>>
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Mr. Capt
by Zal The Legend on Mon Mar 01, 2010 07:20 PM PSTIt seems you have not paid attention to what I wrote earlier because you keep bringing your evidences from media reporters and in particular, the US media. I really don't know how much closer you get to the truth through these reports but I have an idea right now that what you mean of the "facts" that you mentioned earlier. I am sorry if I don't have that kind of facts for you and I admit that your interpretation of facts in this regard is most certainly very interesting. Thank you and regards.
Mr. Zal
by capt_ayhab on Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:45 AM PSTYou note:[Attaching Mr. Rigi to jundullah of Taleban is totally false and has
been promoted and propagated by CIA from the beginning. This matter in
view of many, was a mistake by Mr. Rigi to choose such name for his
group but according to some Sunni analysts, it is to associat it to
their religious belief as sunnis and has nothing to do with Taleban.
Taleban was created and run (and still is) by CIA for certain purposes
and Ben Laden is still proudly serving the agendas of western world in
the region as is the Islamic republic itself.]
on April 03, 2007 following report was filed by Brian Ross of ABC News
Link: //blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html
Excerpts:
ABC News Exclusive: The Secret War Against IranA Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly
guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by
American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources
tell ABC News.
The group, called Jundullah, is made up of members of the Baluchi
tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just
across the border from Iran.
It has taken responsibility for the deaths and kidnappings of more than a dozen Iranian soldiers and officials.
U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged
so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require
an official presidential order or "finding" as well as congressional
oversight.
Tribal sources tell ABC News that money for Jundullah is funneled to
its youthful leader, Abd el Malik Regi, through Iranian exiles who have
connections with European and Gulf states.
Jundullah has produced its own videos showing Iranian soldiers and
border guards it says it has captured and brought back to Pakistan.
The leader, Regi, claims to have personally executed some of the Iranians.
"He used to fight with the Taliban. He's part drug smuggler, part
Taliban, part Sunni activist," said Alexis Debat, a senior fellow on
counterterrorism at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant who
recently met with Pakistani officials and tribal members.
End Excerpts
Regards
-YT
Interview with Davar
by sobh on Mon Mar 01, 2010 09:04 AM PSTInterview Mr. Davar with Abdulmalek Riggi some weeks ago, before his capture.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIqg8bjqVw
Anyone has any idea who this Davar is? I know that he has a satelite TV station, but beside that I don't know that much about him.
Souri Khanom
by Farah Rusta on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:08 AM PSTI have nothing against your comment but I am interested to know what made Mr (alias) Obama to out himself with this boyish face avatar. The fact that he thinks I am a MEK member or sympathizer confirms his youth.
Farah
This avatar is so cute :)
by Souri on Mon Mar 01, 2010 07:01 AM PSTHi obama
I just cliked in IC and noticed Mrs Rusta's comment (Recent commoent)
Your avatar is so cute, it looks like Sattar (the singer) as a child.
Hope Mrs Rusta has nothing agianst this complement :)
Alias Obama
by Farah Rusta on Mon Mar 01, 2010 06:48 AM PSTBefore I answer your question could answer this question.
Why did you feel the urge to use this face as your avatar?
Farah
AO Jan
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sun Feb 28, 2010 04:59 AM PSTFair enough.
I am sure that IRI is lying and boasting about their non existent abilities. I also do not doubt that this was the result of a deal possibly with the USA. As I said before I am not under any illusions regarding the treatment he will get. It is not right or fair.
But that is IRI behavior. Treatment of opposition will not improve until IRI goes.
Enough said.
By the way,
I know a number of Pakistanis. They seem to be very pro Iranian and pro IRI. Sometimes they do not distinguish between Iran and IRI. I noticed non Iranians like IRI a lot more than Iranians do since they don't have to live under it.
VPK Jaan
by Anonymous Observer on Sat Feb 27, 2010 09:42 PM PSTI don't think that anyone (at least most people) here on this thread or others supports Jundullah. Like you said, they are just another bunch of garden variety nut case, gun toting, Islamic murderers. But what many people take issue with is the propaganda mileage that the IRI is trying to get out of this who at the expense of the truth. There was no grand operation that caught this guy in mid-air. There was a deal struck between the IRI, Pakistan and the U.S., and that's how this guy was delivered to them on a silver platter. That's all. Now let's see what the other side gets in return. It may be that the three Americans will set free, or may be the IRI is doing something with the people under its control in Afghanistan that will benefit the U.S. We may never know. But just like everything else, what the IRI is saying in nothing but lousy propaganda...to the extent that the Pakistani ambassador, in Tehran, had to come out and put and burst their bubble in public. They must have pissed the Pakistanis off with their over the top boasting and propaganda!
jundullah
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sat Feb 27, 2010 09:28 PM PSTI find this unbelievable that people are defending these guys. One radical Islamist vs another one. Thees people did not even pick a Persian name as "jundullah" is Arabic to its core. Just opposing IRI is not reason to support a group.
I have no interest in taking sides in a fight between two rival Islamists. Frankly this is crazy. We want a Secular nation. Besides a virulently anti-Shiite group in a mostly Shiite Iran will not get far. I rather have united Secular Iran.
Mr. Capt
by Zal The Legend on Sun Feb 28, 2010 07:49 AM PSTI believe whoever that accuses you of something should bring undisputable evidence, am I wrong? or is it just for you and not others? That of course is for a country and place where authorities have respect for such matters and people's rights are recognized and respected by them. Mr. Rigi is, undoubtedly, a rebellion against Islamic dictatorship and he has never hidden that in all his interviews. It is true that innocent bystandards might have been hurt or killed because of the operations by his group which is unfortunate and they are definitely responsible for that but do you care to study the root cause of the issue that has pushed these young people to take such radical measures? Do you believe that people have right to stand up and rise against injustice and suppresion and if so, what objections do you have to the methods that people might be forced to use against violence and brutalities of the authorities who are supposed to protect them and not destroy them?
Attaching Mr. Rigi to jundullah of Taleban is totally false and has been promoted and propagated by CIA from the beginning. This matter in view of many, was a mistake by Mr. Rigi to choose such name for his group but according to some Sunni analysts, it is to associat it to their religious belief as sunnis and has nothing to do with Taleban. Taleban was created and run (and still is) by CIA for certain purposes and Ben Laden is still proudly serving the agendas of western world in the region as is the Islamic republic itself.
Dear friend, western intelligence organizations have been manipulating public opinions through their influence in media and universities for decades so please spare me the analysis of renowned ME reporters as I have no faith in such matters. I think we need to try using our own brains by looking at the facts in the field to get to the bottom of truth while paying attention to what others say too. In my view, nothing that Islamic republic authorities have been doing and are doing against any group of people in Iran can be defended in any way or form. It is true that violence can not produce any meaningful and peaceful resolution for any dispute but you should not condemn one for using violence while neglecting what provokes the violence in the beginning. Islamic regime has used brutal violence to suppress slightest peaceful opposition by Iranians in every corner of the country. How long do you think this will continue or should this continue?
Mr. Zal
by capt_ayhab on Sat Feb 27, 2010 04:05 PM PSTYou noted[But whoever told you that Mr. Rigi is a separatist lied to you]
Not to be argumentative, but do you care to produce any evidence to the fact that this man is not a separatist, or that he is an innocent man who has be implicated ever so wrongfully in the killings of at least ONE Iranian civilian?
Meanwhile indulge in some facts please:
[“ultra-sectarian, anti-Shiite outfit immersed in the intolerant Deobandi
interpretation of Islam.” Jundullah was allegedly founded in 2003 by a
Pakistani Taliban commander, killed in 2004, and is currently led by
Abdel Malik Rigi who studied at the Binori mosque in Karachi, which
many Taliban also attended.
Escobar believes Jundallah is not only connected to the Pakistani anti-Shiite terrorist group, Lashkar-e-Jhagnvi,
but is also “tactically connected” to al Qaeda. So it is no surprise
Baluchis have been reported training in al Qaeda’s Waziristan camps.
Joining forces with al Qaeda would make a natural alliance for
Jundullah. Al Qaeda also possesses an unmatched hatred for Shiites,
declaring them heretics. And like in the Christian Middle Ages, Osama
bin Laden believes heretics deserve only death.]
//frontpagemag.com/2009/10/28/al-qaeda-targets-iran-by-stephen-brown/
P/S, Pepe Escobar the most renowned ME reporter.
-YT
Well, just if you say so..
by Zal The Legend on Sat Feb 27, 2010 03:37 PM PSTBut whoever told you that Mr. Rigi is a separatist lied to you but since you have already figured out everything on your own then you deserve an applause.
You and any separatist like rigi are traitors to Iran!
by obama on Sat Feb 27, 2010 01:38 PM PSTHe, like you puts his own local agenda above the interests of Iran. Anyone who works with CIA is a traitor no matter what the cause is! So, you fall in the same catagory! Don't try to justify you selfish attitute mr. zaboli!
If you haven't noticed...
by Zal The Legend on Sat Feb 27, 2010 07:59 AM PSTThe whole country is Kahrizak. It just needs a little intelligence to realize that and a little courage to speak up against that and not to condone it. If protecting your own ass against asses is your main cause which stands above your nation and your homeland then you deserve to be a supporter of asses just to protect your own.
He can now enjoy his stay in
by benross on Sat Feb 27, 2010 06:46 AM PSTHe can now enjoy his stay in kahrizak!
This remark alone gave you away!
Mr. Rigi is a warrior for justice and liberty of his people
by Zal The Legend on Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:02 PM PSTMr. Rigi is a warrior for justice and liberty from Zabolestan, like Rostam was. Those who easily fall for the cheap lies of the criminals who rule Iran and the CIA, are just victims of their own ignorance to the facts that Islamic regime is being guided by CIA in every step as an outlet of western corporations to protect their interest. selling Mr. Rigi was just another gift of many which have been presented to leaders of Islamic regime by CIA and the company, to postpone their demise.
AS for Mr. Ebrahim Yazdi, I wonder what does he have to confess and to whom? Ebrahim Yazdi is a well known CIA connection for Islamic regime whose role in establishment of Islamic republic is not hidden to anyone. He was a recruit of Richard Cottam in his years of studying in university whom he kept close relation with till this day.
What Mr. Rigi has done might have been controvertial in some cases but people like him who put their own life and their own family's lives on the line to defend the cause of justice and the rights of their people, stand much higher as far as dignity, over those critics whose important values do not go beyond their own skin and ego.
Criminal rulers of Islamic regime have destroyed a nation which have one of the richest natural resources on this planet and the news about their crimes and thievery has become such a routine that does not bother people as much as it bothers them that they can not travel to Zahedan while not bothering themselve to think even why is it like that? Mr. Rigi and many others like him will follow the glorious path of patriotism, undoubtedly with mistakes sometimes like others before him, and if there is any hope for any kind of positive change in Iran, it will definitely be because of people like him not those who nag a lot and take no real step to change things for themselves.
Rusta, are you MEK (terrorist group), or MEK supporter?
by obama on Fri Feb 26, 2010 08:33 PM PSTI am not accusing you. Just wondering. You don't have to answer, if you wish.
These thugs are better off to work for IRI as basijis. That way they would be safer. They are the same kind of criminals, and worse since they work for US/UK/Israel.
why should we be surprised if US is supporting them? Don't need to go far back. That is how Taleban was created by the US;.and now they are fighting them. How stupid!
Couple of years ago, I was on my Iran dicovery trip to the south heading to kerman and wanted to continue my trip to bam and zahedan. I got very disappointed when I was told that we'd better not go to Baluchestan since the roads were not safe and we could be attacked anytime, especially at night. So, I hope they get rid of these thugs so I can visit Zahedan (at least this is one of the reasons).
As comparing them with Yazdi, there is no comparison. Yazdi is an old dog diplomat who is smart, educated,experienced with has strong belief and purpose and he is not willing to compromise with the regime. He is not an idiot like this guy. This skinny guy is a chicken terrorist and traitor and I am glad he got caught. He can now enjoy his stay in kahrizak!
siamack
by hamsade ghadimi on Fri Feb 26, 2010 07:37 PM PSTold dudes do rule and perhaps it might not be a good thing. here's a picture of one of those old dudes who ruled with ebrahim yazdi, like a good servant, sitting next to him (to the left):
//www.sidewalklyrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/yazdi.jpg
THINGS....
by maziar 58 on Fri Feb 26, 2010 07:11 PM PSTGOT MIXED UP AGHA DARIUS NONE OF THOSE NAME WERE IN THE ERA OF KOMEINI THEY WERE AT LEAST 10 YRS BEHIND THAT MO FU.
Maziar
Siamak Khan
by Fatollah on Fri Feb 26, 2010 06:19 PM PSTI doubt it, in my book he's a 26 year old young man! but, then again what do you know about him? of course we know a whole lot about this E. Yazdi character!
your comparison doesn't hold water!
Separating boys from men…
by Siamack Baniameri on Fri Feb 26, 2010 02:41 PM PSTEbrahim Yazdi, a 70-year-old cancer patient who has been in IRI prison for 90 days has refused to confess. But this young dude steps out of airplane and starts singing like a canary!!!
Old dudes rule....
If this claim proves to be
by Bavafa on Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:34 PM PSTIf this claim proves to be true, which I have less doubt then otherwise due to the past history of US establishing or supporting many terrorist groups, it needs to be condemned in the harshest way and would just strengthen (unfortunately) the AN camp of using it as an excuse to clamp down on Green even more
Mehrdad
Never rejoice in another human's pain
by Farah Rusta on Fri Feb 26, 2010 09:35 AM PSTBe it Roozbeh, Rajavi or Rigi, I don't see their torture and death as an issue to be happy about. In the so called bygone era the very Rigi tribe had their chieftain as a prominent member of parliament and their rights were as much respected (if not more) as that of their Shiite compatriots. It would have been unusual for him to rebel against the system that had granted them equal rights as others. But is this the case here? ghiaas ma'alfaaregh mikoni faghan.
Farah
Pakistani ambassador in Tehran tells of Pakistan's assistance
by Anonymous Observer on Fri Feb 26, 2010 09:14 AM PSTin capturing Rigi. Here:
//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2010/02/100224_u04_rigi_pakistan.shtml
So, come out of your fantasies.
seamorgh
by hamsade ghadimi on Fri Feb 26, 2010 08:50 AM PSTdon't forget other countries that also might support jundullah. here's a link from one of your favorite sources (press tv) that cites saudi arabaia as the culprit. ;)
//www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=77844§ionid=351020101
for sure there have been many references of u.s. funding jundullah. but why not cite muslim governments that are also complicit: saudi, yemen, pakistan, afghanistan. and if jundullah is bad (i don't see much supporter on this site), does that make iri good?
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by The Phantom Of The Opera on Mon Apr 05, 2010 06:37 AM PDTThe Pahlavis, all mullahs, and all public figures associated with the Green Movement must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth/income.
CIA Confirms suppor for Rigi as he killed Iranians in cold blood
by seamorgh on Fri Feb 26, 2010 08:33 AM PST...As earlier reported on the Blotter on ABCNews.com, the United States has supported and encouraged an Iranian militant group, Jundullah, that has conducted deadly raids inside Iran from bases on the rugged Iran-Pakistan-Afghanistan "tri-border region."
//blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html
//blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html
Dear Farah
by darius on Fri Feb 26, 2010 08:31 AM PSTThose name you mentioned were all traitors, just for a simple facts , they knew what they are dealing with (Khomeini) but went along with it anyway.They had hoped to topple KHomeini and took over shortly(just
a week after Revolution Mojahedin tried to take over the TV station and were caught after a street fight) and blamed it on Savakis and Taghooti ha.
I know some are dead but I am referrign to their idealogy and action that made them to become a web of spies and informers.Mojahedin Khalgh is a good example.Who is giving all those interviews and
pin pointing locations.
One man's terrorist ,,,
by Farah Rusta on Fri Feb 26, 2010 08:09 AM PSTis the other's freedom fighter!! I would like to see how many of those who labeled Rigi as a terrorist would extend the same lablel to the likes of Khosrow Golesorkhi, Bijan Jazani, Ashraf Dehghan, Hamid Ashraf, Masoud Rajavi, Bahman Ghashghaii and many others from the bygone era.
This is a classic and very sad example of the tried and tested policy of expediency as shown by a succession of American administrations. Abolmalek Rigi (the name comes from a well known tribe in Baluchistan) was traded as a bargaining chip in under the table dealings between the currrent US adminstration and the Islamic regime. Morale of the story: never trust an American promise. Congratualtions Mr Obama!
Farah
Amarbard
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Feb 26, 2010 07:06 AM PSTI am sorry to say I agree with you on this. US tends to support very questionable groups then regret it. It was Khomeini; Taliban; OBL and now Jundullah. The US foriegn policy is run by idiots. Just see the "CIA analyst" Leveretts.
I oppose the IRI and make no bones about it. However I do not support other Islamist groups. In particular I oppose groups that put their ethnicity above being Iranian. We are all in this together. We must work together for a better Iran and not get diverted.
Jundullah has done a lot of very nasty things in Iran. I question their loyalty to Iran and I don't mean IRI I mean Iran.
Yes to resistance against IRI. Yes to a democratic Iran. No to terrorism. No to separatism.