What threat?

The Iranian Threat

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What threat?
by Noam Chomsky
05-Jul-2010
 

The dire threat of Iran is widely recognized to be the most serious foreign policy crisis facing the Obama administration. General Petraeus informed the Senate Committee on Armed Services in March 2010 that "the Iranian regime is the primary state-level threat to stability" in the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility, the Middle East and Central Asia, the primary region of US global concerns. The term "stability" here has its usual technical meaning: firmly under US control. In June 2010 Congress strengthened the sanctions against Iran, with even more severe penalties against foreign companies. The Obama administration has been rapidly expanding US offensive capacity in the African island of Diego Garcia, claimed by Britain, which had expelled the population so that the US could build the massive base it uses for attacks in the Central Command area. The Navy reports sending a submarine tender to the island to service nuclear-powered guided-missile submarines with Tomahawk missiles, which can carry nuclear warheads. Each submarine is reported to have the striking power of a typical carrier battle group. According to a US Navy cargo manifest obtained by the Sunday Herald (Glasgow), the substantial military equipment Obama has dispatched includes 387 "bunker busters" used for blasting hardened underground structures. Planning for these "massive ordnance penetrators," the most powerful bombs in the arsenal short of nuclear weapons, was initiated in the Bush administration, but languished. On taking office, Obama immediately accelerated the plans, and they are to be deployed several years ahead of schedule, aiming specifically at Iran.

"They are gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran," according to Dan Plesch, director of the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy at the University of London. "US bombers and long range missiles are ready today to destroy 10,000 targets in Iran in a few hours," he said. "The firepower of US forces has quadrupled since 2003," accelerating under Obama.

The Arab press reports that an American fleet (with an Israeli vessel) passed through the Suez Canal on the way to the Persian Gulf, where its task is "to implement the sanctions against Iran and supervise the ships going to and from Iran." British and Israeli media report that Saudi Arabia is providing a corridor for Israeli bombing of Iran (denied by Saudi Arabia). On his return from Afghanistan to reassure NATO allies that the US will stay the course after the replacement of General McChrystal by his superior, General Petraeus, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Michael Mullen visited Israel to meet IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi and senior military staff along with intelligence and planning units, continuing the annual strategic dialogue between Israel and the U.S. The meeting focused "on the preparation by both Israel and the U.S. for the possibility of a nuclear capable Iran," according to Haaretz, which reports further that Mullen emphasized that "I always try to see challenges from Israeli perspective." Mullen and Ashkenazi are in regular contact on a secure line.

The increasing threats of military action against Iran are of course in violation of the UN Charter, and in specific violation of Security Council resolution 1887 of September 2009 which reaffirmed the call to all states to resolve disputes related to nuclear issues peacefully, in accordance with the Charter, which bans the use or threat of force.

Some analysts who seem to be taken seriously describe the Iranian threat in apocalyptic terms. Amitai Etzioni warns that "The U.S. will have to confront Iran or give up the Middle East," no less. If Iran's nuclear program proceeds, he asserts, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and other states will "move toward" the new Iranian "superpower." To rephrase in less fevered rhetoric, a regional alliance might take shape independent of the US. In the US army journal Military Review, Etzioni urges a US attack that targets not only Iran's nuclear facilities but also its non-nuclear military assets, including infrastructure -- meaning, the civilian society. "This kind of military action is akin to sanctions - causing 'pain' in order to change behaviour, albeit by much more powerful means."

Such inflammatory pronouncements aside, what exactly is the Iranian threat? An authoritative answer is provided by military and intelligence reports to Congress in April 2010 [Lieutenant General Ronald L. Burgess, Director, Defense Intelligence Agency, Statement before the Committee on Armed Services, US Senate, 14 April 2010; Unclassified Report on Military Power of Iran, April 2010; John J. Kruzel, American Forces Press Service, "Report to Congress Outlines Iranian Threats," April 2010, //www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=58833.].

The brutal clerical regime is doubtless a threat to its own people, though it does not rank particularly high in that respect in comparison to US allies in the region. But that is not what concerns the military and intelligence assessments. Rather, they are concerned with the threat Iran poses to the region and the world.

The reports make it clear that the Iranian threat is not military. Iran's military spending is "relatively low compared to the rest of the region," and of course minuscule as compared to the US. Iranian military doctrine is strictly "defensive,É designed to slow an invasion and force a diplomatic solution to hostilities." Iran has only "a limited capability to project force beyond its borders." With regard to the nuclear option, "Iran's nuclear program and its willingness to keep open the possibility of developing nuclear weapons is a central part of its deterrent strategy."

Though the Iranian threat is not military aggression, that does not mean that it might be tolerable to Washington. Iranian deterrent capacity is considered an illegitimate exercise of sovereignty that interferes with US global designs. Specifically, it threatens US control of Middle East energy resources, a high priority of planners since World War II. As one influential figure advised, expressing a common understanding, control of these resources yields "substantial control of the world" (A. A. Berle).

But Iran's threat goes beyond deterrence. It is also seeking to expand its influence. Iran's "current five-year plan seeks to expand bilateral, regional, and international relations, strengthen Iran's ties with friendly states, and enhance its defense and deterrent capabilities. Commensurate with that plan, Iran is seeking to increase its stature by countering U.S. influence and expanding ties with regional actors while advocating Islamic solidarity." In short, Iran is seeking to "destabilize" the region, in the technical sense of the term used by General Petraeus. US invasion and military occupation of Iran's neighbors is "stabilization." Iran's efforts to extend its influence in neighboring countries is "destabilization," hence plainly illegitimate. It should be noted that such revealing usage is routine. Thus the prominent foreign policy analyst James Chace, former editor of the main establishment journal Foreign Affairs, was properly using the term "stability" in its technical sense when he explained that in order to achieve "stability" in Chile it was necessary to "destabilize" the country (by overthrowing the elected Allende government and installing the Pinochet dictatorship).

Beyond these crimes, Iran is also carrying out and supporting terrorism, the reports continue. Its Revolutionary Guards "are behind some of the deadliest terrorist attacks of the past three decades," including attacks on US military facilities in the region and "many of the insurgent attacks on Coalition and Iraqi Security Forces in Iraq since 2003." Furthermore Iran backs Hezbollah and Hamas, the major political forces in Lebanon and in Palestine -- if elections matter. The Hezbollah-based coalition handily won the popular vote in Lebanon's latest (2009) election. Hamas won the 2006 Palestinian election, compelling the US and Israel to institute the harsh and brutal siege of Gaza to punish the miscreants for voting the wrong way in a free election. These have been the only relatively free elections in the Arab world. It is normal for elite opinion to fear the threat of democracy and to act to deter it, but this is a rather striking case, particularly alongside of strong US support for the regional dictatorships, emphasized by Obama with his strong praise for the brutal Egyptian dictator Mubarak on the way to his famous address to the Muslim world in Cairo.

The terrorist acts attributed to Hamas and Hezbollah pale in comparison to US-Israeli terrorism in the same region, but they are worth a look nevertheless.

On May 25 Lebanon celebrated its national holiday Liberation Day, commemorating Israel's withdrawal from southern Lebanon after 22 years, as a result of Hezbollah resistance -- described by Israeli authorities as "Iranian aggression" against Israel in Israeli-occupied Lebanon (Ephraim Sneh). That too is normal imperial usage. Thus President John F. Kennedy condemned the "the assault from the inside" in South Vietnam, "which is manipulated from the North." This criminal assault by the South Vietnamese resistance against Kennedy's bombers, chemical warfare, programs to drive peasants to virtual concentration camps, and other such benign measures was denounced as "internal aggression" by Kennedy's UN Ambassador, liberal hero Adlai Stevenson. North Vietnamese support for their countrymen in the US-occupied South is aggression, intolerable interference with Washington's righteous mission. Kennedy advisors Arthur Schlesinger and Theodore Sorenson, considered doves, also praised Washington's intervention to reverse "aggression" in South Vietnam -- by the indigenous resistance, as they knew, at least if they read US intelligence reports. In 1955 the US Joint Chiefs of Staff had defined several types of "aggression," including "Aggression other than armed, i.e., political warfare, or subversion." For example, an internal uprising against a US-imposed police state, or elections that come out the wrong way. The usage is also common in scholarship and political commentary, and makes sense on the prevailing assumption that We Own the World.

Hamas resists Israel's military occupation and its illegal and violent actions in the occupied territories. It is accused of refusing to recognize Israel (political parties do not recognize states). In contrast, the US and Israel not only do not recognize Palestine, but have been acting relentlessly and decisively for decades to ensure that it can never come into existence in any meaningful form. The governing party in Israel, in its 1999 campaign platform, bars the existence of any Palestinian state -- a step towards accommodation beyond the official positions of the US and Israel a decade earlier, which held that there cannot be "an additional Palestinian state" between Israel and Jordan, the latter a "Palestinian state" by US-Israeli fiat whatever its benighted inhabitants and government might believe.

Hamas is charged with rocketing Israeli settlements on the border, criminal acts no doubt, though a fraction of Israel's violence in Gaza, let alone elsewhere. It is important to bear in mind, in this connection, that the US and Israel know exactly how to terminate the terror that they deplore with such passion. Israel officially concedes that there were no Hamas rockets as long as Israel partially observed a truce with Hamas in 2008. Israel rejected Hamas's offer to renew the truce, preferring to launch the murderous and destructive Operation Cast Lead against Gaza in December 2008, with full US backing, an exploit of murderous aggression without the slightest credible pretext on either legal or moral grounds.

The model for democracy in the Muslim world, despite serious flaws, is Turkey, which has relatively free elections, and has also been subject to harsh criticism in the US. The most extreme case was when the government followed the position of 95% of the population and refused to join in the invasion of Iraq, eliciting harsh condemnation from Washington for its failure to comprehend how a democratic government should behave: under our concept of democracy, the voice of the Master determines policy, not the near-unanimous voice of the population.

The Obama administration was once again incensed when Turkey joined with Brazil in arranging a deal with Iran to restrict its enrichment of uranium. Obama had praised the initiative in a letter to Brazil's president Lula da Silva, apparently on the assumption that it would fail and provide a propaganda weapon against Iran. When it succeeded, the US was furious, and quickly undermined it by ramming through a Security Council resolution with new sanctions against Iran that were so meaningless that China cheerfully joined at once -- recognizing that at most the sanctions would impede Western interests in competing with China for Iran's resources. Once again, Washington acted forthrightly to ensure that others would not interfere with US control of the region.

Not surprisingly, Turkey (along with Brazil) voted against the US sanctions motion in the Security Council. The other regional member, Lebanon, abstained. These actions aroused further consternation in Washington. Philip Gordon, the Obama administration's top diplomat on European affairs, warned Turkey that its actions are not understood in the US and that it must "demonstrate its commitment to partnership with the West," AP reported, "a rare admonishment of a crucial NATO ally."

The political class understands as well. Steven A. Cook, a scholar with the Council on Foreign Relations, observed that the critical question now is "How do we keep the Turks in their lane?" -- following orders like good democrats. A New York Times headline captured the general mood: "Iran Deal Seen as Spot on Brazilian Leader's Legacy." In brief, do what we say, or else.

There is no indication that other countries in the region favor US sanctions any more than Turkey does. On Iran's opposite border, for example, Pakistan and Iran, meeting in Turkey, recently signed an agreement for a new pipeline. Even more worrisome for the US is that the pipeline might extend to India. The 2008 US treaty with India supporting its nuclear programs -- and indirectly its nuclear weapons programs -- was intended to stop India from joining the pipeline, according to Moeed Yusuf, a South Asia adviser to the United States Institute of Peace, expressing a common interpretation. India and Pakistan are two of the three nuclear powers that have refused to sign the Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT), the third being Israel. All have developed nuclear weapons with US support, and still do.

No sane person wants Iran to develop nuclear weapons; or anyone. One obvious way to mitigate or eliminate this threat is to establish a nuclear weapons-free zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East. The issue arose (again) at the NPT conference at United Nations headquarters in early May 2010. Egypt, as chair of the 118 nations of the Non-Aligned Movement, proposed that the conference back a plan calling for the start of negotiations in 2011 on a Middle East NWFZ, as had been agreed by the West, including the US, at the 1995 review conference on the NPT.

Washington still formally agrees, but insists that Israel be exempted -- and has given no hint of allowing such provisions to apply to itself. The time is not yet ripe for creating the zone, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stated at the NPT conference, while Washington insisted that no proposal can be accepted that calls for Israel's nuclear program to be placed under the auspices of the IAEA or that calls on signers of the NPT, specifically Washington, to release information about "Israeli nuclear facilities and activities, including information pertaining to previous nuclear transfers to Israel." Obama's technique of evasion is to adopt Israel's position that any such proposal must be conditional on a comprehensive peace settlement, which the US can delay indefinitely, as it has been doing for 35 years, with rare and temporary exceptions.

At the same time, Yukiya Amano, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, asked foreign ministers of its 151 member states to share views on how to implement a resolution demanding that Israel "accede to" the NPT and throw its nuclear facilities open to IAEA oversight, AP reported.

It is rarely noted that the US and UK have a special responsibility to work to establish a Middle East NWFZ. In attempting to provide a thin legal cover for their invasion of the Iraq in 2003, they appealed to Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), which called on Iraq to terminate its development of weapons of mass destruction. The US and UK claimed that they had not done so. We need not tarry on the excuse, but that Resolution commits its signers to move to establish a NWFZ in the Middle East.

Parenthetically, we may add that US insistence on maintaining nuclear facilities in Diego Garcia undermines the NWFZ) established by the African Union, just as Washington continues to block a Pacific NWFZ by excluding its Pacific dependencies.

Obama's rhetorical commitment to non-proliferation has received much praise, even a Nobel peace prize. One practical step in this direction is establishment of NWFZs. Another is to withdraw support for the nuclear programs of the three non-signers of the NPT. As often, rhetoric and actions are hardly aligned, in fact are in direct contradiction in this case, facts that pass with as little attention as most of what has just been briefly reviewed.

Instead of taking practical steps towards reducing the truly dire threat of nuclear weapons proliferation, the US is taking major steps towards reinforcing US control of the vital Middle East oil-producing regions, by violence if other means do not suffice. That is understandable and even reasonable, under prevailing imperial doctrine, however grim the consequences, yet another illustration of "the savage injustice of the Europeans" that Adam Smith deplored in 1776, with the command center since shifted to their imperial settlement across the seas.

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AMIR1973

Marhoum Kharmagas

by AMIR1973 on

I have a very tender place in my heart for IRI Groupies who live in the West and spout Islamist propaganda. Why do IRI Groupies insist on admiring their Islamist Utopia from thousands of miles away and to live in Sheytan-e Bozorg or elsewhere in the Evil West? For example, Kharmagas, why would a person like yourself not settle down in the IRI? It would be nice to hear your opinion. 


No Fear

خرمگس عزیز

No Fear


تشابهات زیادی بین یک ملا در ایران و این ملا لغتی خودمان در این سایت است. منظورم در روش رسیدن به مقصود است. در آخر ، من و شما هر دو پس معرکه هستیم چون سواد نوشتن این زبان انگلیسی را نداریم. ( شما اسم بنده را اشتباه نوشتید ). به امید روزی که هر کی این زبان منطق رو نمیفهمه ، زودتر آدم بشه ! لطفآ یک صلوات بفرستید !

AMIR1973

No Fear

by AMIR1973 on

It is helpful of you to point out the similarities in the "message" of both Prof. Chomsky and Emam Khomeini (I was already aware of the similarities, but certain "leftish" folks are too dishonest to admit it). I think everyone needs to be aware that Chomsky and Khomeini are of the same mindset, and also be aware that Khomeini is responsible for more death and destruction in Iran than any other individual in recent history. When the "messenger" is so tainted and bloodthirsty, then any decent person should also start to question the "message" and compare what the U.S. is versus what Khomeini and radical Islamism are. 


marhoum Kharmagas

prayers for peace (to No Fear)

by marhoum Kharmagas on

Jenaabe No Frear, next time you visit vatan, find some good molla, and have him pray for peace, for betterment of your spelling, and for betterment of mind for Doctor Amir. However, be aware that the prayers might work for the first and second cases, as U.S may not be in a position to start another war, and your spelling is fairly good anyway. But don't expect any amount of prayers help Docrorjaan's case.


No Fear

Amir, It seems you understand the power of rhetorics

by No Fear on

Political rhetorics whether its been used by IR or the west , it serves to please or excite the masses.

Whether it is the evil west who uses phrases such as " evil empire" or " axes of evil"  to rally support for their cause or whether its IR with its " Great Satan" they both serve the same purpose.

( Even you display a cumnning ability to sound like an akhound in your last post, like calling IR a cancer etc).

Anyone who wishes to be a political activist, must be able to read and see beyond the rhetorical rants and understand the message.

This is the point i am making for those who are reaching orgasmic levels by reading chomsky. In essence, what IR foreign policy is all about ( when it comes to US ) and what chomsky is saying, is very similar. Why do we discriminate between the messengers then? Especially when the message is very similar.

Now, as a very bright person which you are, you can come out and just deny and oppose both chomsky and IR alltogether and vent off. OR ...

You will realize that the same thing also applies to you and your camp. You will understand that the point of all this is whether the messenger has any priority over the message itself?

As a political activist, should we follow the message or the messenger?


default

It is not the same thing at all.

by Doctor X on

Chomsky is not using any particular Terminology! This is not Rethorical piece. This is not Just sloganeering against the US government. It is a systematic and overall criticism of its foreign policies, which offers solution if one is smart enough to read between the lines.

The issue of Chomsky's audience is a totally Irrelevant one. Are you suggesting that Iranians in iran are somehow less sophisticated? How can you be absolutely certain what level education his audience possess? It does not matter what tone is chosen Inside Iran, or whether i have read a recent opinion piece or not. It is Sloganeering and Slandering regardless.


AMIR1973

No Fear: You should keep checking your "writtings"

by AMIR1973 on

If you write the "other two" languages you speak as poorly as you do English, then IRI needs to hire itself better propagandists for the Evil West. I suppose one could say that you are to propagandists what the Saeqeh is to fighter planes  :-)

 

Yes, I do have an opinion, and in the U.S. (aka Great Satan), unlike your Islamist Utopia, I have the freedom to express it. As far as what you bring to the "debate", you simply mimic the propaganda lines of the cancerous entity known as the IRI--which makes you a little tumor living in the body of the West. Have a very nice day.


No Fear

Amir,

by No Fear on

Thank you for correcting my spelling. I usually spell check my writtings ( English is my third language ). Other than your correction, you offer nothing new to the debate. It seems you copy paste the same post and reply to a variety of topics ,from art to politics and economy. You sure have an opinion in all areas.


AMIR1973

Listen to No Fear (except for his inability to spell message)

by AMIR1973 on

Chomsky's "message" (that U.S. is the Great Satan) is the same as that of Khomeini, who is the biggest killer of Iranians in recent history. Now, what does it say about Chomsky and his fans on Iranian.com that they are mimicking Khomeini?


Mehman

Excellent Analysis

by Mehman on

and a revealing article by one of the greatest contemporary intellectuals of the world.


obama

Israel is behind it! Iranians will make it hell for Israel & US!

by obama on

Our No. 1 enemy in the world is Israel! This is a good example of containment. How did the US manage to keep the blacks as slaves for so long? By not allwoing them the opportunity to read and write! Same here! They know the intelligence, brilliance and history of Iran and Iranians! They know, if we are left on our own, we are going to be as great as them (are we less than the mongol, uncivilized koreans?), therfore creating a real challenge and competition for them. So, they have to do whatever it takes to hold us back!

We are going to fight back against our enemies and save Iranian lives and Iran from the destruction planned for us! May the enemies of Iran, all go to hell!

Obama was chosen as a puppet king by the zionists such as Axelrod etc. to change the face of the US after Bush, but carrying the same zionist policies against Iran. Not suprising that his first appointment was of the famous zionist and israeli soldier Rahm Emanuel! With him at the helm of the white house, what else do you expect?

I say no NIAC, and IRI! If IRI is serious about saving us from the great enemies, they would give people their freedom in their own country, instead of wasting money on lobbbying to save money for the corrupt politicians in Iran. Continuing their current policies would only expedite the the dissidents flee into the arms of the enemies. If the US know iranians are happy with their government, therfore united against any foreign country, they wouldn't dare thinking about a war! 

And yes, things always are going to get worse with the new government that would come to power through the US! Why did we have a revolution and suffered for 30 years in Iran and forced to exile, if we are going back to the old dictatorship? No thanks! US/Israel get the f... out of Iran and the ME! Maadar jen....!

Of course, did any of you read the book from former weapons inspector, Scott Ritter TARGET IRAN, which he wrote a few years ago? So there is nothing new in the US policy! That proves the fact that Nuclear is only one of the alibis used by the Israel/US as a pretext for war! They want to re-control our country. The real winner would be the IRI, since we have no choice but standing up against our enemies from outside!


fooladi

let's assume Noam Chomsky is right.

by fooladi on

After all, he is a "left wing intellectual" , and knows better than the rest of us mortals....... (BTW did anyone tell him about the mass burial location of "left wing intellectuals", just like himself, but unfortunate enough to be born in Iran, rather than the evil US of A at Khavaran cemetry and other secret burial places around Iran? Islamic regime can give him the locations, the numbers and names of the people burried there. After all they themselves were responsible for this genocidal mass murder of the best and brightest of Iranian Youth in 1989).

Yes, assuming he is right, The biggest threat to Iran, from foreign policy perspective alone is the islamic regime. The reckless , confrontational behaviour of regime is breath taking. I wonder if they want to start another war like war with Iraq to unite the people behind them and at the same time execute thousands of their political prisoners quietly as they did in 1980's during Iran/Iraq war? If so, they are making the greatest miscalculation of all time. US/Obama 2010 is very different from Iraq/Saddam 1980! Not to mention the differences between Iranians 2010 and Iranians 1980..... 


No Fear

The messege is the same.

by No Fear on

Just because chomsky uses a more sophisticated terminologies, doesn't make his case different than what IR is saying for the last 30 years.

Remember, that chomsky's audiences are americans with higher education while in Iran , politicians speak to all different social classes of people.

Even if you prefer a more sophisticated approach worthy of your high standard and in tune with your immense intelligence, there are still plenty of very good analysts and intellectuals who use the same terminologies when they write in Iran's newspapers. ( When was the last time you read the "opinion" section of any newspaper in Iran? )

Regardless, the point of my post was whether we discriminate between the messengers of the same messege. And if yes, why?

 


default

That is not the same thing

by Doctor X on

The devil is in the details. The Intellectual here, explains meticulously the details of his world view and what he thinks of US Foreign policy, basing it on all forms of  historical precedence, analyzes Its consequences and projects its implictaions, while at the same time lays out alternative solutions...

On the Other hand, The "other" group, The policy makers, Come out and make it as blunt as possible and in return proposes only one single solution for it all. So, It is not as simple as Disregarding the Value of the message and putting the emphasis on Who is bringing it on. You can't just "simplify" things to your liking and call it a universally-accepted mandate.

 

 


Abarmard

Great article and warning signal

by Abarmard on

It's true that if US attacks, it will not be limited. Iran will be destroyed. That is the plan. Sad but this is how bullies force their rules. Supporting organizations such as NIAC might stop possible criminal act by the US policy makers.


Mola Nasredeen

If what Chomsky says comes true

by Mola Nasredeen on

Another trillion dollars or more will be borrowed from China and spent on this new war, another hundreds of  thousands will be killed, many more cities will be destroyed, terrorism will flourish even more, the environment will be damaged and US will sink even deeper into recession. What a wise policy by our president elect Obama!


mola in boshkeh

Chomsky or Communisky, what's the diff?

by mola in boshkeh on

Chomsky has been making these kinds of arguments for the past 40 some odd years. Whether it's about Iran or Vietnam, it's doesn't' matter. It is always the same theme, America is the bad Imperialist. And yet like most of you, Chomsky hypocritically enjoys and bad mouths this bad Imperialist by living right smack in the middle of it!

 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI

 

To this hypothetical attack against the barbaric Islamic Republic and its thugs by America, I say I believe it when I see it!

 

Like when you open up your refrigerator and check out the date on your milk box and it is says expired, the expiration date on the mullahs was a while ago. It's time to throw out the mullahs and the milk! 


AMIR1973

Observations from MOOSIR & No Fear

by AMIR1973 on

I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi dead will vouch for it in
the afterlife.

When Arabs blow each other up in marketplaces, mosques, police recruitment centers, etc. When they cut off each other's heads and dump the bodies in the Tigris River. When they torture each other to death with power drills. When they kill entire families and clans and ethnically cleanse neighborhoods to make them "pure" Shia or "pure" Sunni--do Arabs have any responsibility for their actions or is the Devil (i.e. the U.S.) always responsible?

In essence, both Chomsky and IR foreign policy makers are saying the same
thing
. They differ in the terminology where Chomsky argues the
imperialistic nature of US policies in the middle east, Iran simplifies
that term to the " great satan ". 

In other words a Jewish-American intellectual holds a similar worldview as Khomeni, i.e. the biggest killer of Iranians and founder of a regime that invites Neo-Nazis to its holocaust denial conference. Okay, the U.S. is the Great Satan--though that doesn't stop IRI supporters from living in the Great Satan and enjoying its freedoms, something that they could never dream of doing in the Islamist Utopia.


Fatollah

excellent article

by Fatollah on

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Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

We all

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

all know that this has nothing to do with Iranian threat. That is why Russia won't buy the BS about missile defence.

The USA created IRI and now wants it gone. Simple as that. To be fair it was Carter who created IRI and he is no longer in power. In fact I would say Carter still supports IRI. But Obama had decided IRI must go. The real reasons are not openly revealed. We all have our guesses but you bet it is not a threat or nukes.

The rest are dumb ass excuses about nuclear. Fortunately for Obamab AN is stupid enough to give them reason.

The big question is what comes next. That is a main thing we should be worried about. All of us should be involved. We must make sure it does not become yet another tyrrany.


No Fear

Chomsky's audience are americans.

by No Fear on

In essence, both Chomsky and IR foreign policy makers are saying the same thing. They differ in the terminology where Chomsky argues the imperialistic nature of US policies in the middle east, Iran simplifies that term to the " great satan ".

I am glad Chomsky is doing what he is doing. He is a scarce commodity in a senseless society. But we have many others like Chomsky who are saying the exact same thing over and over again with more detailed arguements from our perspective ( Iranian ).

Why is it when an american intellectual discusses middle east we listen so eagerly, but when the same thing is said with different terminologies, we react so strongly against it?

Why do we value the messenger more than the messege?

 

 


R2-D2

There are ...

by R2-D2 on

two (2) Jewish-Americans that I have greatly admired over the years:

The first one, of course, is the great Noam Chomsky;

and,

the second one was the great Civil Rights attorney William Kunstler  who passed away several years ago .....

 

 


Jahanshah Javid

Thank you

by Jahanshah Javid on

It's sad that you are the only (conscientious) voice of reason left in a country that was built on "Common Sense". The last true intellectual.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Outstanding as always.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Chomsky is wrong.

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

The united states is the greatest force for good, beacon of light and freedom. Washington DC should be renamed to Democracy central.

I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi dead will vouch for it in the afterlife. How much do you want to bet?