NIAC: Prevent war with Iran

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NIAC: The same people who pushed us into war with Iraq are laying the groundwork for war with Iran. There's even a Congressional resolution that would "green-light" Israeli strikes on Iran. But we have time to prevent this disaster. Go to www.niacouncil.org/preventwar to learn how >>>

16-Sep-2010
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afshinazad

HARD TO MAKE MONEY!

by afshinazad on

When people like mr Arsalan comes on sunday on meet the press and talks like he cares about SOFI SECTOR ISLAM MOSQUE and he says he is extremely angry about objection aout building MOSQUE in NY, I just wonder when was the last time in any muslim country were allowed to build the f***CHURCH, like Iran?

Now mr Aeslan and NIAC are really care about IRI Regime or they care about Iranian people. if NIAC is so much cares about iranian people and their freedom why is that, even they can not convince american to provide the sofware that Iranian could stop the filtering the Internet and yet they want our money to pay the lobbyist to stop the imaginary war, all these hoop la is for keeping Iranian wonder around and do nothing and I really wonder where were these people before 2009 election and Iranian give their life for freedom and people like mr Arsalan writes the book and becomes expert in foreign policies.


Mardom Mazloom

Simorgh5^5,

by Mardom Mazloom on

No use for your cracked translation haji, I understood in which camp you stay at the beginning of your dari-vari on this site!


1. So you don't see that Iranians are coming over Mullahs? - I'm sorry for you, but the reality is that they are! Look at all the thugs and the suicide army the regime deploy when a gathering of the opposition (to the regime) is annonced. Would Mullahs tarnish more their miserable image if they didn't/don't feel themselves insecure? All these waves of sympahty for Iranians across the world is the result of what in your sense? kalat-o-bekar bendaz bacheh


2. Yeah I admit that Mullahs are in trouble but they cannot do whatsoever they want to people. However, the situation will change when they'll get the excuse and that excuse is the national security. If a war is declared against them they'll execute all political prisoners without any hesitation and that because they'll easily link these prisoners to the foreign threat, Capisce?


3. "Political activity and protests are useless. " That's what you are saying to justify your warmongering attitude here. Grow up!


Simorgh5555

Piadeh

by Simorgh5555 on

I am all for Abu-gharib treatment and a Guantanamo prison for all mebers of the Islamic Republic and those that want to fight for them. nothing will give me greater satisfaction than seeing your beloved Supreme Leader shaved and sheckled in an orange suit.  Thank you for bringing that to my attention and infact I am going to lobby for such facilities if it has not been proposed as yet.

You missed the point. I do not want the Iranian nuclear facilities to be targeted. I want the Parliament, Sepah buildings, Basij posts and the personal homes of the IR officials blown up. If depleted uranium amunition kills them and their families then good. 

With surgical strikes you can minimise the damage to ordinary civilians or obliterate it completely. I have done more research on this than you have had hot dinners! 

As for your slur about being a traitor? Piadeh, I know a Hebollah writer even if you want to hide behind a PC monitor. 


Simorgh5555

Bavafa

by Simorgh5555 on

How did you "fight the IR?"

Please don't change the subject. I'm waiting........................


Simorgh5555

Mardome Mazloom

by Simorgh5555 on

You are a poet and political heavy weight. I'll spell it out for you in simple terms when you come back to planet earth:

1) You say the Iranian people are dealing with fighting the Mullahs themselves? How?

2) You admit that any mobilised violent resistance from Iranians alone will be met with greater force. I AGREE. Which is why a properly equipped Iranian army with the help of foreign assitance in the same way the Kurds were helped by the Americans with the 'no fly zone's in Iraq. 

3) Political activity and protests are useless. As an Iranian, and as someone who can speak Farsi, you are well aware that the Sepah and Army hold the greatest military power. Next, are the Bazaris who are well fed and will not want to jeapodise the status quo. They could not care about the PHD student in political scienc waving a text book.

This leaves one way: An Iranian foce backed and supported by the US or Israeli airforce. Now, if you want to change thn DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Once you get over your anti-semetic hatred of Israel which they taught you at Iranian schools you would realise they are not our natural enemy.

If you don't want change then kindly stop talking about Iran. Stop complaining when people are raped, jailed and executed.

Sorry, Mardom, I do not want to wait till I am 70 until things change. I want them changed now before Iran becomes a country like China or North Korea. 


Bavafa

Khare khoda : I didn't say I am your "jan" :)

by Bavafa on

rather you are my "jan" 

Do you even speak Farsi or just like Sarhang, have learned  a few phrases here and there and khodet o ghati adam kardi?

Mehrdad


Piadeh

sismorgue55!

by Piadeh on

Why are you getting angry? You are a trator! so what?

You think your Neocon heros will get rid of IR and send you to Iran in a private jet? No.. they will use might of the US and bomb my brothers and sisters ( if you have any yours too) to stone ages. They are dreaming Abugharib treatment for Iraninans. Go read some recent history.

 

Apparently you do not understand that Depleted Uranium amunition and phosphorous bombs do not differentiate between IR herd and Iranians. 

//www.google.com/images?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozi...


Simorgh5555

Mehrdad

by Simorgh5555 on

 

First, of all you are not my 'Jan'. Please spare me your condescending Mehrdad 'Jan'

If you thought in the Iran-Iraq war then you should know better! However, you did not answer my question: How did you fight the IR?

Don't give me any of that crap about forming "secret societies" and holding "secret meetings" from an old ram shack in downtown Tehran. Did you pick up a gun and shoot the Mullah in the eye or not? 

It is the spirit of Cyrus the Great that counts! Do you think he would have abandoned and refused to fight a bunch of Sepah terrorists? 

Iran is ALREADY under foreign occupation: It's called the IR.

Hey, think what you like about me and Israel. I know that Israel never claimed the Persian Gulf was Arabic or tried to destroy Persepolis. However, you are willing to defend the ALEIN occupiers of your country against people who will try and liberate it. Shame on you. Mehrdad. 


Mardom Mazloom

Simorgh5^5, don't try to be more intelligent than what U aren't

by Mardom Mazloom on

چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد


Mardom Mazloom

Simorgh5^5

by Mardom Mazloom on

Which proverb? didn't translate any - Farsi baladi asslan?

To answer your question:

No, All Iranians I know or heard about are and were brave. The solution to our fu#k'n Mullahs is not to kill more people as them!

Iranians are already dealing with Mullahs and are finding the way to get ride of them for sure, if you're too blind to see this simple fact I'm sorry for you.

What we can do to help the enslaved people inside Iran is not to give more arms and rhetorics to Mullahs to kill more of them, more savagely. Look what happened in the late 80ties, When khomeini saw he'll not win the war he executed more than 10000 of my compatriots. and the excuse was the national security.

So now you answer my question: "would you give this arm to Mullahs to kill more people?"


Simorgh5555

Bravo, Mardome Mazloom

by Simorgh5555 on

Now you stick to what you are good at writing: .....Sher neveshtan!

I will be the deep political thinker around here and you can stick to writing poems and living in cloud cuckoo cland. 

I tell you what:  If Iran becomes liberated I'll persoanlly recommend you to be the court jester to His Highness Reza Pahlavi's Palace in Niyavaran. 


Bavafa

Oh Simorgh jaan, you are killing us with your satirical writings

by Bavafa on

MM, you need to picture this, Simorgh along with Rostam o Sohrab o refighash leading the US Marines and IDF soldiers to the battle with AN and Khamenie and the other eight people that he has on his list of to-be-executed-by-Simorgh on Iran liberation day.

//iranian.com/main/blog/simorgh5555/members-islamic-republic-must-be-condemned-and-sentenced-death

Mehrdad

P.S. And I am willing to bet that I have done more of "real fighting" then you or most here on IC. Lets suffice to say that I have come much closer to death at the hand of IRI thugs/Basij, then ever by the Saddam's military/war.

 


Mardom Mazloom

Simorgh5^10 Pahlevan Dalir I'll shortly find the other rhyme 4 U

by Mardom Mazloom on

خروس پهلوان همی گفت با ما بسی

برات مصرع دوم را هم میگم، وایسو الان سر کارم ....


Simorgh5555

Mardom

by Simorgh5555 on

Please don't try and translate your Persian proverbs in English.It sounds all Greek to me! Tell me, has cowardice become an Iranian trait?  


Simorgh5555

Piadeh

by Simorgh5555 on

Harfe dahaneto befahm! 

I oppose the Islamic Republic. The Islamic Republic is not Iran. They are anti-Iranian. If any member of the Islamic Republic army or supporters are killed then this is a glorious moment for Iran. All those who fight for the cause of the Islamic Republic are going to the cesspit of history forever.

 

The fact that you cannot make a distinction between fighting against the Islamic Republic and fighting against Iran speaks volume about your nature and your allegiences.


Simorgh5555

Mehrdad

by Simorgh5555 on

Don't make me laugh! How did you do your "fare share of fighting the IR"? You oppose all forms of force even when I suggested the struggle to liberate the country should be done by a national liberation army.

Distributing flyers and political leaflets and organising "secret" political meetings from the basement of your Tehran appartment is not "fighting". Fighting is when you take a gun and load the bullets right between the eyes of your enemy. If you did that then good for you and you earn my respect. If not, then don't make a food of yourself. 


Piadeh

How dare you sismorg555!

by Piadeh on

Any Iranian who  points a gun towards Iran or advocats war with Iran is enemy of Iranians and is a TRAITOR... PERIOD!

 

 


Mardom Mazloom

Simorgh5555555,

by Mardom Mazloom on

Don't compare yourself to those heros who gave their lives to save others.

You're tearing yourself that some lives be taken and moreoever, you'll hurt your both eyes not just the left one!


Bavafa

Benyamin jaan,

by Bavafa on

You are not the only one, there are millions of Iranians who will defend their homes & family should any one dare to attack them. Iranians may not have a good track record in defending themselves, their family or minorities against internal oppressive regime such as IRI or Pahlavi, but they have proven to be very effective and brave when it comes to foreign attack and invasion.

When Iran was so brutally attacked by Saddam's army, I did not hesitate to defend my home land in that war, likewise did my fair share of fighting the IRI when I lived there and like yourself will reserve the right to defend my family and home land once again, should any foreign nation decide to attack her.

The struggle to free Iran belongs to Iranians and Iranians only.

Mehrdad


Simorgh5555

Mardom Mazloom

by Simorgh5555 on

Cotemplate this: The valiant Kings and warriors that defended Iran from the legendary Rostam, Cyrus the Great Babake Khoramdin, Nader Shah and the great Reza Shah. Now look at your self in the mirror and contemplate this; How is it that Iran has produced so many Pahlevans and I am such a lily livered coward! 


Mardom Mazloom

" ... and grow some balls." That's exactly what you don't have

by Mardom Mazloom on

چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد


Simorgh5555

Benyamin/Veritas

by Simorgh5555 on

Your emotions are clouding your judgement and are preventing you to focus on the subject rationally. This is not a war for Israel but a struggle to liberate Iran. Israel and those who oppose the regime share a common objective even though they have different reasons. Are you now saying that F.D. Roosevelt was a Communist because he joined Stalin to topple Hitler? I take it you have seen a picture of the Terhan conference with Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill?

I am afraid that you have swallowed the Islmaist lie about the 'War for Israel'. 

Benyamin: You are not the only one who has familyin Iran. You will fight to defend their lives but I am willing to fight for their liberation and freedom from oppression;I will fight for their right not to wear a hijab and not having to be stopped arbitarily for violating stupid Shariah laws; I fight for their right to listen to music; I fight for their  equality of women; I fight to end gender segregation; I fight for the right to express your beliefs in a secular country. 

For all those that oppose force you should hang your head in shame for your cowardice. Your protest marches and empty gestures of sympathy have yielded nothing as you continue your lives watching the suffering of the lives of ordinary Iranians knowing deep down that it does not affect you as you sit in the comfortable confines of your California homes. Rather them than you, isn't it?

Either you do something to help your family in Iran or shut up with your fake cries of sympathy for your 'fellow Iranians'.

I suggest all Iranians that oppose the use of force sober up and grow some balls. 


Mardom Mazloom

Simorgh123123, watch out shasst pat nareh too cheshm chapet!

by Mardom Mazloom on

I bet that you are a little tiny chicken who just have a big mouth on the net but when it comes to real fight, you hide your tiny little @$$ behind your screen.


How dare you advocate for war on Iran, when you're just a little chicken traitor?


Benyamin

CORRECTION

by Benyamin on

I WOULD RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND MY FAMILY IF ANYONE DARED ATTACKING THEM


Bavafa

Bingo !!!!

by Bavafa on

"all the political establishment in U.S. is nothing but a potted plant"

it has taken you some time to catch up with reality but you are learning ever so slowly.

Mehrdad


Benyamin

TO WARMONGERS:

by Benyamin on

ALL OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND RELATIVES LIVE IN IRAN. I WILL NEVER COMPROMISE FOR EVEN ONE BREATHE OF THEM TO ANYTHING LET ALONE LOSING THEM TO ANYONE`S IDEALOGY OR WAY OF LIFE OR RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION.

I am a minority and my family have seen no love from Pahlavi nor IRI but I will not settle for war not now not ever. Iran is not just my country but it is where most of my family live and I wont sit back and see them killed because some other country wants to feel "secure".

I tell you this right now the only way they will feel secure is when they are dead.

Any life is bigger than any democracy or dictatorship. life is sacred . it is no one person`s decision to take it away or that person is a criminal. Having said that, I would reserve the right to defend anyone attacking my family.you may gamble with your own family, not mine. 


verytass

Simorgh5555 are you willing to fight for israel?

by verytass on

Simorgh5555, are you willing to fight for israel and follow your armchair general suggestions? 


seannewyork

Yes, the Islamic Republic is pushing the world for war

by seannewyork on

Lets get real the regime in iran is pushing the world into a war by their actions.

 niac should concentrate on the regime in iran who is the cause of all this.  but no trita doesnt like to put the spot light on the regime of iran.

no one wants war.  its a no win situation for all but lets get real.  lets focus on the problem the regime in iran.

niac should support the people of iran instead of standing up for their oppressors.


Saman

War suggestion...

by Saman on

Those who want a war against Iran should naturally enlist in the US military first ... or enlist their children or other family members to fight against Iran before any American or Israeli solder. You know why you want to fight this war. It's your country. It's your war and it should be your blood.


Simorgh5555

Benyamin

by Simorgh5555 on

Option 1- No war or surgical strike: Continued killing, rperession, mass immigration of Iranians leaving the country, jail, torture, unemployment, threat to mid- east peace

Option 2 - Sanctions. Smart/'air tight': No impact or long term effect. Sanctions will hurt normal people of Iran

Option 3- Do nothing. Hope for change to come. Impossible given odds are in favour of SEPAH and army. The other column of power is the mechant class (Bazaris) and they are conservative and do not want to change the regime. Nothing will change

Option 4- Take  a chance. Fight the mullahs. Hurt them. They will retaliate but Mullahs have attacked US interests in Iraq, Lebanon and Israel. Iran IS already attacking US and Israeli interests. 

 

I say option 4