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Reply to Zagross: You're not getting it

I don't agree with MF, so I'm not like him. what I'm saying is, that this film showcases Iranian women in a subtle hejab-friendly way that makes the west think most Iranian women prefer it and that ti is in our culture to wear it.

I'm saying this is a tragedy that winning the award has sadly caused.

I am saying I am do-del.

I wanted an Iranian to win.

But I did not want to sacrifice the rights of Iranian women to win it.

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Reply to VPK: Listen

You're not getting it.

I'm not insulting you, I actually think you're great.

Just not average and usual.

My point is that the film reinforces the stereotype that women in Iran are OK wearing a headscarf and being told what to do where to go, when to speak and mostly to shut up.

So that when Simin actually speaks up, in what would be a totally normal event anywhere else, it is considered a moment of triumph and pleasant surprise in the West, so much so that they give an award for it.

Do you see what they have done?

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Don't be flattered, you are not as big as Masoud Ferasati

That's all Mr Bahmani. I dout it if knew Reza Motories and Kimiaeies!

You are a sick man and sound like a guy called Masoud Ferasati

Masoud Ferasati, an Iranian writer whose views are close to those of the Islamic regime, said: "The image of our society that A Separation depicts is the dirty picture Westerners are wishing for."

Farhadi did one great thing to win

He stopped the trend of going to nowhere land and film deprived and forgotten people and instead for the first time showed real life of middle class Iranians who matter in the minds of people. They are those who change what is and are worldly and politically savvy.

I was so tired of seeing Iran in the same light for 32 years until this came out.

Most Iranians would disagree with your last post, bahmani

"Here in America with less than a million Iranians, only 40% of which are
women, the fact this tiny minority don't wear the hejab is irrelevant
to the greater depiction of 70 million Iranians inside Iran, half of
which are women, who do. Granted they are forced to legally, but now
thanks to this film, appear to like it too. Just like Simin, her
daughter, the maid and every woman depicted in the film showed she likes
and prefers it. Even when in a room alone with her husband."

Disagree, also that VPK is not Iranian by his own description, he is very Iranian, he's Liberal Iran, the one that has been intellectually used against Iran without its own consent. Also disagree with what you say is the 21 century image of the iranian women. Of the several million women that leave Iran on holiday or for travel and school, including basiji families in kensington london, they almost all throw the hejab off the first chance they get.  I have met so many Iranian women that left ther parents in iran to come to the west, especially and mostly pro khameneii IRI ones, none of them seem to adore this hejab the way you talk about.  Not sure where you got your view from, not personal experience for sure, thats the problem with being an Antellectual, easily deceived by intellectuals with an agenda.

Bahmani keep your insults to yourself

I am an Iranian and it is not up to say otherwise. You sir have a  great deal of hot air. Not one intelligent idea or blog. People of Iran are a diverse group with lots of variety. I am one who does not care about Hollywood.

Now if you require people to fawn over Oscars to be Iranian that is your problem. There are not sufficient words to describe my disgust toward you.  Don't bother marking me down in your list as anything because you don't matter. 

Now go on in your little world where you dictate who is Iranian. Where you dictate what people want or don't. No wonder there are tiny dictators in every small minded person. Yes it was me who flagged your insulting post.

Reply to VPK: You're not Iranian then

If as you say you aren't this or that, that people are all individuals, then you suggest that you are not part of the whole, or the average of Iranians, so you're saying you are not an Iranian.

That's fine, I can understand that. You refuse to be defined by what happens in Iran. Got it.

Unfortunately what you choose to be perceived as, is not up to you.

What you are initially perceived as, when identified as an Iranian, is the collective average of Iranians as sanctioned and accepted by society at large.

So like it or not, accept it or not, when an American sees you now, and finds out you are Iranian, they will necessarily apply the average reinforced by the film, to you. Not your intended image. You might not care. You might wish to be seen as an individual and not an Iranians. But that's not how it works. I think you actually do care about being perceived as the correct Iranian. Your writings have suggested this clearly. That's why you are here on this site, after all.

Here in America with less than a million Iranians, only 40% of which are women, the fact this tiny minority don't wear the hejab is irrelevant to the greater depiction of 70 million Iranians inside Iran, half of which are women, who do. Granted they are forced to legally, but now thanks to this film, appear to like it too. Just like Simin, her daughter, the maid and every woman depicted in the film showed she likes and prefers it. Even when in a room alone with her husband.

The film did that. What 300,000 miscellaneously placed Iranian women do in America unfortunately cannot overcome this.

I apologize for speaking for you specifically, I'll mark you down as an Iranian I know that does not wish to be included with any or all other Iranians.

How typically Iranian of you to make things overly complicated and generally difficult. :)

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What are you talking about Bahmani

There you go again by generalizing "we" Iranians this .. How about some reality in this. Personally I don't give a damn about Oscars or Hollywood. I Never did and never will.  But if Farhadi wins good for him and my blessings.

This is not "my" victory anymore than crimes of Khamenei are mine. Iranians are not one giant organism where people are each a cell. People are individuals. How hard it this for some on IC to comprehend. 

Regarding "Hejab" I know plenty of Iranian women here in America. Not one of them wears the dreaded rag. You say whatever but I believe what is in front of me. Do me a favor please don't tell me what I want "deep down". You don't got any idea sir.