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Great article, as usual!

bruce jan,

Great article; as usual!

Dear Professor Ala.

When confronted the last time about the below statement by you, you said that your were not referring to any particular group when it was clear that you were talking about Jews.

 Below is your exact statement:

"Blacks have been destroyed in America and white race is
next in line to be destroyed through lies of media and junky Hollywood culture.  Guess who is controlling the media and Hollywood?  Please at least give credit to Dr. MacDonald for using his real name. "

Now you have made another statement below mentioning Hollywood:

 "Bahmani jan; there is a book entitled… xx accomplishments, according to a good friend who is xx, 1/3 up to ½  of the material in that book are not true.  However, xx have accomplished more than Muslims.  I have been busy, I would like to write something about Hollywood. "

 Can you please advise who "xx" is?

Who is "xx" that have more accomplishment than Muslims according to you?

How does your good "xx" friend know that "1/3 up to 1/2 of the material in that book are not true?" Have you verified its not true?  

Please come clean with your statements. 

Please admit that your are anti-xx.

ps: Should I send you a list of xx accomplishments and we could verify which one is false and which one is true? 

But please verify what "xx" means.

Reservations

Thank you Mohammad jaan – Competing against Israeli athletes in an international setting – not bilateral context – surely does not imply any more the recognition of Israel by IRI than the two countries voting on resolutions in the General Assembly at the United Nations, an institution of which they are both member States, or as to belonging to an global or multilateral international treaty or convention systems they are both parties to. There have been instances in which Moslem countries, including IRI have signed onto conventions and in doing so have made a declaration or reservation that their membership in a certain arrangement in no way shall be construed as a recognition of Israel (at time referring to Israel in euphemistic language). Why cannot such a declaration be made with the international organizing bodies of sports organization? It might all be political; I suggest there is something more deviant in IRI’s refusal to compete against Israeli athletes – that is the optics of an Israeli athlete’s arm being raised by the referee in victory, while a dejected IRI athlete stands by – not to mention the spectacle of an IRI athlete standing on a podium lower than the Israeli athlete, while the Israeli national anthem is playing, the IRI athlete having to bear it. I suggest that perhaps the IRI athletes would like to be spared these “indignities” and certainly not having to put up with the odium of opinion in some sections of the society at home that would demean the athlete for losing to an Israeli. With the IRI constantly whipping up anti-Israeli or ant-Semitism in one fashion or another, I cannot fault the athlete possibly feeling as they might about competing against Israeli athletes.

An answer and a comment.

Guive jan, I have asked a similar question to yours.  The answer which I have been given is that by competing against their athletes, then they accept it as a country, so it is political.  In the majority of cases, Iranians could and would win because it has been in wrestling, Judo, or similar sports which Iranians are stronger.

Bahmani jan; there is a book entitled… xx accomplishments, according to a good friend who is xx, 1/3 up to ½  of the material in that book are not true.  However, xx have accomplished more than Muslims.  I have been busy, I would like to write something about Hollywood. 

Reply to Guive: Look up Jewish Accomplishments

To understand what and why, all you need to do is look up the collective accomplishment of Jews.

Then add up the same for Iranians.

Anyone who "hates" Jews is simply jealous and angry at the disproportionate sheer volume of accomplishment that Jews have produced.

I can only assume that it probably has something to do with not believing in heaven or an afterlife.

Or maybe it is their belief that since this is the one life you will have you'd better make the most of it.

Meanwhile, everyone else is slacking off, thumbs up their asses, waiting for the rapture, the apocalypse, pure enlightenment, or the 13th secret emam.

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Separation v. Footnote

I was reading on the BBC/Persian website that the Iranian officials are gloating over the movie “A Separation” beating out the Israeli entry “Footnote” for Oscar in the best foreign film category. I must marvel at the contradictions that reside in the minds of these leaders of the Resolute Nation – on the want hand the IRI sees itself in competition with Israel when it comes to the Oscars and then it forbids its athletes to compete against Israeli athletes in the world sports arenas. Could it be that the IRI is as mortified about an IRI athlete losing an athletic event to an Israeli athlete on “whatever” grounds, as a certain German leader was disgusted, on racist grounds, when an African-American runner won gold in Berlin. Please someone explain why IRI athletes do not compete against Israeli athletes? Is it a religious issue, a political thing, or fear of losing.        

Bahmani, to add to your list

Regarding men who marry non Iranian women. Not only their kids are considered Iranian but also the wife becomes iranian and can get a birth certificate from Iran (Shenasnameh). However, if an Iranian woman marries a non Iranian man, not only the man does not become Iranian, but the kids are not even considered Iranian.

Women’s Rights and Practices Under the Islamic Republic of Iran:

1. The value of a woman’s life is one half of the life of a man.
2. The testimony of two women is equal to the testimony of one man.
3. Daughters get half the inheritance that the sons get.
4. A woman does not have the right to divorce her husband.
5. A man can divorce his wife any time he wishes and without her knowledge.
6. Men are allowed to marry 4 wives and as many “temporary” (or surrogate) wives as they wish.
7. Women cannot travel, work, go to school, or even leave the house without the husband’s permission.
8. A woman must live where her husband chooses.
9. Mothers do not get the custody of their children when their husbands divorce them.
10. Husbands can take the baby away from the mother and have another woman feed and raise the infant.
11. A widow does not get the custody of her children after the death of her husband. The children will be given to the paternal grand parents or relatives and the mother has no right of visitation.
12. If the husband has no family, the Mullah of the community takes the custody of the woman’s children and all the family money and belongings.
13. In the case of a husband’s death the wife will be left without her children, home and belongings.
14. The age of criminal responsibility, under article 1210(1) of Iran’s Civil code is set at 15 for boys and 9 for girls.
15. The law sanctions marriage of girls before 13 years of age and boys at 15.
16. In his book, Ayatollah Khomeini requires that young girls should be at the husband’s home before they reach puberty.
17. In the case of inheritance for an older wife, a mother whose children are grown, she receives only 1/8th of the value of the home. But none of the value of the land that the home is sitting on.

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Reply to Sepehr: IRI vs BMG Hmmm!

As an oppressive regime designed to stifle the freedom of it's people, I agree with your assessment. I am of course talking about the inhumane, unfair, corrupt and oppressive regime of the Music Industry!

I agree that to win an Oscar with an official government sanctioned film was a major win.

And don't get me wrong, I am ultimately proud of him.

But since you bring it up and probably don't quite get or know what the impact of what you might consider to be just "one" of your 70+ songs was:

I was more proud to watch the world champion figure skater, Kristi Yamaguchi, skate an unbelievable routine to one of your songs on ABC.

It's not the film or Farhadi. For me it's the institutionalized and now Rotten Tomatoes critics sanction of the oppression of Iranian women.

Thanks for stopping buy, my article is honored to have your comment!

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The Good Will Come Out, Eventually!!

Thank you so much for your receptive and encouraging comments, Ms. Hojjati.  After all there may be some sun behind the dark clouds! Creating the surge and cynergy is your and my most difficult task. Best wishes.

Zoroumbaa, radical surgery is fine wih me

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All Art is Propaganda - George Orwell

Bruce, I don't think I have ever replied to any of your articles, but your writing is such that you are able to make people feel that they should respond no matter their persuasion, and that I must say is a talent.  You get a lot of hits on your articles and I think that is the measure of success for a writer.  I remember in Tehran at Iranzamin we were studying George Orwell back in the 70's and I was always mystified by his essay which stated that  "All Art is Propaganda"  He meant that all art comes from somewhere and expresses a particular worldview and therefore was arguing against those who believe they are ideologically neutral, and that is why your post is an interesting one, since your opinion is not neutral which I respect since I think in this case you are going against the tide of our Iranian pride and emotion which is so proud of this historic accomplishment, and that takes guts.  I think the reason you are getting all the negative comments is that we are proud regardless of the reasons you mention of why the win was bittersweet.  Actually, I think Farhadi should have been given a double Oscar since he didn't compete on a level playing field like all the other filmmakers he was in contest with.  He had to get all these permits, etc. to be able to make his film, while I am sure the other directors were "free" to do whatever they wanted.  He should be commended for being able to pull it off.  His screenplay was also nominated in competition with the likes of Woody Allen which I believe is really a great director. Supposedly Woody Allen himself said it was the best Oscar picture. There is censorship everywhere, even here in the good US of A, but when it comes to "art" it may not be called censorship here, it may be called something like the "market is not ready for it" or something to that effect.  When we were recording our first album "One Thousand and One Nights" and the record company didn't even know if it would sell more than a few copies, they were telling us to change the name of songs that they didn't feel would "market well" and even asked us to reduce the amount of electric guitar in some of our songs since the "market for instrumental music may not be ready for that style" type arguments which I personally considered censorship at the time. But in order to get our "art", our "product" released, we had to bow to their wishes. I sympathize with Farhadi in this regard.  But at least he has an Oscar to show for it!   

CARTOON BOOK and HEJAB !

Ms. Hojjati, in your comments you state that “How about a cartoon book like the Rostam one that you did.  I believe that would be a good way to educate non Iranians that reason women in the Iranain movies wear Hejab is not that they want to but most are forced to and if they don't, they will be flogged/prisoned, harassed.” How significant is the education of “non Iranians” while millions of IRANIAN women must live under a brutal oppressive theocracy with Sharia Law to be unquestionable and unchallengeable law of the land?Flogging, imprisonment, harassment, and “TOUTURE” that you did not mention is not the punishment  just waiting for the  ” Iranian women in the Iranian movies”, every free thinking, and liberty seeking Iranian women is subject to the punishment prescribed by the Sharia Laws and its interpretation and augmentations  by the Islamist of dark ages.   It does not look that “a cartoon book” to “educate” “non Iranian women” about Hejab, although it is better than being passive and silent, is going to do the job. So what , if and when,  Foreign Women learned the “real reason” that Iranian women ware Hejab in movies is because they have to. How this awareness, in any material and effective manner, helps millions if Iranian women in the streets of Tehran, Shiraz, Esfahan,…and the rest of the country?   A “carton Book” approach seems too simplistic. You cannot cure cancer by putting a band-aide “on it”, sometimes it requires a radical surgery—yes it has side effects and is painful, but you will get rid of the cancer and you need not worry about its symptoms.Cheers,

Bahmani, taking Hejab off for a minute sounds like a good idea

I like the fact that it is only for a minute. Reality is that if taking the Hejab is done for a long time, women will be arrested. Now it is the matter of publicizing it.

Reply to AH: International No-Hejab Day

Better yet what is needed is an International day of No Hejab.

How about a day during which at specific pre-determined times around the world, the women of Iran and other countries who are forced to wear the hejab, remove it for one minute, then put it back on and go about their day, so as not to be arrested.

While all the free women in the rest of the world, put on the hejab in solidarity, for one minute, and to show everyone what it feels like to be in a society that oppresses women.

I think that would be outrageous.

I can see the YouTube videos pouring in now.

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Reply to Abarard: Are you serious?

You mean to say that the same women's rights Iranian women had in 1972, now needs to be re-earned over more yet decades of struggle?

Really?

And the level of modernity that Iranian society had gained in 1972 has to now be re-modernized again?

What ever for?

WHY?

Because old mollahs with 14th century ideas of antiquity who merely want power and money say so?

Sorry, I object.

May I remind you that "decades ago" or at least 3 decades ago, Iran was further along the evolutionary road to modernity, than this assumption, that women must be covered at all times, even in the private presence of their husbands (I know it's ok in reality, but not apparently according to the film), are simply worth half a man in most legal circumstances and a quarter during estate planning matters. women also have special segregated areas they can sit, and cannot enjoy a simple soccer match. Just in case 100,000 Iranian fans cannot avoid their natural instinct to rape them.

Are you seriously suggesting the re-evolution of the 1972 Iranian woman? and that these things just have to take their sweet time?

Really?

God help us if we are collectively that tolerant and nonchalant about this.

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Reply to Abarard: Are you serious?

You mean to say that the same women's rights Iranian women had in 1972, now needs to be re-earned over more yet decades of struggle?

Really?

And the level of modernity that Iranian society had gained in 1972 has to now be re-modernized again?

What ever for?

WHY?

Because old mollahs with 14th century ideas of antiquity who merely want power and money say so?

Sorry, I object.

May I remind you that "decades ago" or at least 3 decades ago, Iran was further along the evolutionary road to modernity, than this assumption, that women must be covered at all times, even in the private presence of their husbands (I know it's ok in reality, but not apparently according to the film), are simply worth half a man in most legal circumstances and a quarter during estate planning matters. women also have special segregated ares they can sit, and cannot enjoy a simple soccer match. Just in case 100,000 Iranian fans cannot avoid their natural instinct to rape them.

Are you seriously suggesting the re-evolution of the 1972 Iranian woman? and that these things just have to take their sweet time?

Really?

God help us if we are collectively that tolerant and nonchalant about this.

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Bahmani, I admire your passion against Hejab

When I was a teen-ager, I participated in women's demonstration against Hejab. Few years that I was in Iran in late 1970s and early 1980s, many times while walking on the street, someone (a security person) would tell me:" sister your hair is out", "Your Nylons are too thin",etc, etc, complete Harrassment. I had to wear Hejab which I did not believe in. Alternative was being taken by guys or gals in Range overs to the Komiteh. So those commentators who write that Iranian women want Hejab need to go and read about what happened in early years of revolution. That said, may be you should channel your energy and come up with an art project that shows to the world how many Iranian women are against Hejab.

How about a cartoon book like the Rostam one that you did.  I believe that would be a good way to educate non Iranians that reason women in the Iranain movies wear Hejab is not that they want to but most are forced to and if they don't, they will be flogged/prisoned, harassed.

GREAT article, thank you Siamak!

Technicaly this movie was filmed in a fast forward mode! the actors rushed through the whole thing and I BELIEVE strongly that IRI let this film out to tell the world "see, there is freedom in Iran, women can do what they want!"  and we all know that is bulshit! Mr.Farhadi was lucky that Artist was not in forgin movie catagory!

shad zee

Reply to Zagross: I meant metaphorically short

He also happens to be short in height, so forgive my pun, but the height disadvantage I meant was in an Iranian filmmaker standing next to the rest in the world and how he compares.

Iranian filmmakers are certainly not giants.

Ghabool?

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Reply to: Karineh

If you are correct in your assertion that this is what Iran has become, I am indeed sadder than when I watched the film.

Because what you are telling me is that it is true, Iranian women DO actually prefer the hejab now, and the conspiracy to objectify, oppress, and control them to the point of being entirely invalid in Iran is all but complete.

The film was made under the watchful eye of the regime, was completely sanctioned by it, and as a result is "Fajr Films Production". It is a well placed propaganda piece showing Iran as a normal place, with all it's players, willing participants.

If you agree with this, I can accept that.

I can't. I still think ANY art produced under oppression, while a challenge to be sure and I take nothing away from Farhadi for pulling off an amazing win, but nevertheless, that art, is not FREE Iranian art, and as such, is subject to my necessary disdain.

Again, my disdain, you might think it is just fine and dandy and well acceptable. That's just not something I as free Iranian can accept.

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bahmani

Women in Iran are doing their fighting and we have come a long way. In any social progress in anywhere in the world, whether slavery, women's rights, and equality we have seen decades if not half a century of fighting to reach your desired destination.

It is only in the minds of the third world nations that things need to come easily and quickly. All the progress that you witness in the West are resulted by decades/centuries of struggle such as wars, killings, torture, and injustice.

You may want to have a Shah who comes and rips the hejab or Khomaini who comes and pushes the hejab. All done by force without gradual progress and will of society to come to terms with the force. You have other options, you may grab a gun and start a civil war or uprise and revolt all together. However you will not reach a conclusion for your entire society as long as you don't allow the society to gradually come to terms with its shortcomings. Only then you may become modern, and today Iran is moving to modernity regardless of what we wear or is forced into us, only because we are growing gradually.

One's life span is too short for struggles to reach modernity. If culture were developed quickly then no one would value culture as a deep understanding of social behavior. We have come a long way and still ways to go.

To be a positive player in social challenges, a population must first recognize its traditional past with historical struggles. If women's rights and equality in Iran were based on what they wore, then today we should've been closer to that goal but perhaps that's not a historical struggle for Iranians. Nevertheless it is important.

We lived in a society that decades ago most of its population would not want their daughters to attend school so they won't become prostitutes! Now majority of our women are highly educated and run successful businesses... Image may be important but reality is what it is. Do you have a doubt that in coming years Iranians will be able to choose what they wear? I have no doubt in my mind. 

Reply to Zagross: That's not what I meant

Sorry I am making you angry, try to read my response carefully, you're not getting my point.

Of course I am happy and proud he beat all the other films this year.

I WISH, he had won it the right way. Not by making an officially sanctioned and approved Fajr film. That is tantamount to making a propaganda film for Iran's claim that women like and need to be under the hejab.

Is it so hard to object to the hejab?

Is it so easy to forgive the hejab and everything it has done to oppress Iranian women this past 33 years?

My point is this. I stand on this side, against it, in any way that appears to glorify, NO, normalize the impression among foreigners, that Iranian women like and wear the hejab normally as a matter of preference and choice. That this is simply our culture.

It isn't.

The hejab is a institutionalized symbol of the extent to which "the system" intends to split the difference and come between men and women by carving them away from each other to simply influence them in the favor of the church/mosque.

Hameen.

See it for what it is, a clever ploy (one done by all organized religions), but one that to this extent, has oppressed Iranian women to be worth half a man, a quarter of his estate, and on and on and on bit by bit, until this film comes and shows now that women in Iran apparently like this.

All I see in the film is Simin, her daughter, and even the maid who lost her child in the fall, as sub-humanized oppressed innocents.

I can't see Farhadi's beautiful "Universal Human" tale, because the hejab is screaming so loudly in my head.

Sorry to all who object, sorry for pissing in your cornflakes, but I had to do it.

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Beh In Migan Comment!

Great comment, I loved every word you wrote.

I disagree that the hejab specifically is or should be a choice.

It is the single most egregious symbol of sex discrimination and oppression since the Star of David armband was force-put on Jews by the Nazis.

Women are not lesser beings. women are superior beings. Often religious leaders (of all faiths) know this and fear the pwoer women wield and strive to suppress them. This is historical fact.

Eslam with it's aberration and misinterpretation of the hejab via hadiths are specifically designed to divide and conquer the family unit and insert the Mosque between husband and wife in order to better control them and the household budget in their favor.

The reason I say this is not an opinion. It is common organized religion technique. the same as Christianity, Judaism, and even Buddhism have done before. Eslam is indeed just like every other religion.

But the hejab also signifies that we men are animals.

We are not.

I will not accept this film as a valid depiction of free Iranian art, until he makes one without the hejab.

Sorry if this offends, it's just my rightful opinion.

I cannot celebrate small victories while pretending to ignore and excuse greater injustice.

Thanks for your comment, you made me think.

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You are the shortest person in every department.

Getting personal on Farhadi's tallness sums up the state of your mind.  You need help, the quicker the better you twisted sick man.

what a distorted logic!

The only thing I can conclude from your article is that "deep down", you are afraid that you are mistaken in your judgment about today's Iran. Today's Iran is diverse, modern and progressive, despite what you want to believe. As much as I also would like to see the religious regime go away, I don't see why I should "deep down" be sad that a wonderful movie from my country gets international recognition?! This has nothing to do with the regime. In world history, many art masterpieces, plays, books, etc were produced under dictatorial regimes, none were considered as a victory for the ruling parties. 

You've lost it completely Bahmani!

Hejab is not the domininant issue in this film. The film wouldn't have got the permission of the so called Vezaarat-e Ershaad (وزارت ارشاد) without using hejab as in all other iraninian films made under the eyes of the present regime of the Mullaas. So what you are saying is Iraninans should not make films and if they do and it is a good one, not to present it to to the world. Get real.

King has joined the Iranian

Dear bahmani,
Your problem is you are looking at the hejab issue true your eyes.  It's called cultural altruism. I feel its totally acceptable for a woman to chose to wear hejab or for that matter walk topless in the middle of Africa. And there is nothing wrong with it. As a matter of fact through out my childhood in iran and subsequent  visits to Iran and "real Iran" ( and by that I means outside dish watching capital and big cities) especially in older generation they want to wear the the jab. Now with the same token if the majority of iranian woman decide or "evolve" as you may look at it,  to not wear it and they really mean it, there is no way for any government to stop it. Lets not forget that we had that before the revolution and the willingness of majority to wear it enabled the government to enforce it on the minority that wanted to be liberal in public. I also feel through the work of azad university where these dish watching liberal girls (i am not being condescending as most of new generation girls in my family belong to that group and I have no right to judge them same way that I don't have the right to judge the hejab wearing women) have introduced the new way of life or progressive way of life, if you will, to places where the only media exposure is national tv.
Now about the movie, if you are willing to look pass the hejab issue and all the shit going on with nuke, I felt the movie was successful in enabling any one who is watching the movie, domestic or foreigner, to put him/her self in any of the characters place and realize that he or she would have done or though of doing the exact same thing as those characters in the movie. Listen to some critics as they say we felt that Iranians are bunch of angry people but this movie showed us otherwise. they don't think about the hejab that they are wearing but about the conviction they posses or the contrast between a youth honesty compare to lack of it in adults due to the situation. For us Iranians it also showed the clash between the old school of though (god is watching all the time vs. God is only watching sometimes) and how both group had to alter the truth because of financial pressure. Furthermore how both of them tried to correct it when they were confronted by what was important to them. Does it matter if it was god or your kid judging you. 
And my last two cents on aftermath of what happened when this great movie won so many awards. I don't believe your assessment of people viewing this film as a defeat or victory for IRI. Hard times makes great arts and as farhadi said you can bitch about restrictions or work around them to make a work celebrated by everyone across the cultural line. Look at post Arab iranian art and how it has been celebrated from Malaysia to what ever is on the other side of Malaysia (talking about faceless kashikaris). 
And finally farhadi was right about politicians not getting the movie. This include the fars news claim of farhadi's speech and talking about anti west assessment, and that lady who called some secretary in fars news asking or better yet confronting that poor woman  to give her a fars news source for that news. Who the fuck cares if khamenei mention this winning in Friday prayer as I feel again it's irrelevant. The movie success has nothing to do with politics. It was a great movie even without any of those awards. I do agree that it will be politicize to great extend because of the situation but I really hope you get the pleasure of watching this movie with out your political prism as i did and really enjoy it like i did, as a great man once said politicians will never get this movie.

The Mirror

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The hardest thing in the real world is to look at a two way
mirror and see the true ugliness.

Reply to: Abarmard

So are you in favor of depicting women in Iran as willingly hejabed? Like it is not a problem and totally normal?

Or are you like me angry that the film got away with it?

The willingness by which we as Iranians are willing to accept a little oppression here and little bit there, adds up to a lot.

Stop for a minute. Stop admiring the Oscar it won. And take a good hard look at exactly what this film has done.

To Iranian women.

While Simin might have freed herself from Nader and his patriarchal ways in the film, in the end the system wins, and she is, and always will be a slave to the hejab.

That's my problem with it.

Sorry you didn't like me ruining your enjoyment of the win.

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