Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran

U.S. denies involvement, condemns killing

BBC: The US has condemned the killing of an Iranian nuclear scientist in a car bomb attack in north Tehran. National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said the US "had absolutely nothing to do" with the attack. Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan, who worked at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility, died along with the driver of the car. "The United States had absolutely nothing to do with this. We strongly condemn all acts of violence, including acts of violence like this," said Mr Vietor >>>

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Tiger Lily

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy , just a quickie note of thanks

by Tiger Lily on

Thank you. Your gentlemanly upbringing shows through and through. 

And it is obvious to anybody with literacy that we've simply been verging on some views; certainly not all.

 

P.S. The plebs will come up with anything that they themselves are familiar with...  PFFFT!


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Enlightening the Special People, squeeky wheel gets the grease!

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

“Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and
listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the
truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself
and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.”


Fyodor Dostoyevsky,

The Brothers Karamazov

On "Normally I ignore Amirparviz because of the content of his posts. Most
of them are not worth responding because they are devoid of value."  ouch!!!!


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Free speech is one thing. LOL

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

News flash, the best use of Free Speech is debating your values, fighting over your beliefs is the most decent thing you can do.  As for comments to OnlyIran, I copied his continual lies and misrepresentations and made a suggestion, self-respect, that was for him not you.  

Your issue VPK, is different and since you are looking so intently for a voice of reason I suggest you don't pick a person that lies to themselves so much, they can't tell lies from the truth for themselves. When you say,  No matter what America did ( and continues to do) it is my host and deserves my thanks. You need the awareness that you can both be grateful towards the USA and truthful with Americans and yourself, for example try this for size, "thanks but you are on the wrong path."  Supporting Fundamentalsm is stupid.  Keeping mullahs is dumb. Murdering Iranians who are the victims of this regime is wrong, thanks for having me here in the USA, now listen to my own views.  And yes I can condemn any US action that goes against my conscience.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

No matter what America did, (and continues to do)

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

it is my host and deserves my thanks.  There is Nothing wrong with being indebted to the USA for being your host and giving you all US priveleges.  Especially in light of the reality of our cases, the actions of betrayal, theft & possible murder etc in your and my case being at the hands of fellow iranians.  However this doesn't mean you have to be a USA worshipper regardless of their actions.  What kind of a friend is that?  If USA intends to harm and continue to do Harm to Iran by blocking democratic paths of action and pursuing paths of war & keeping mullahs secure you owe it to your own conscience to be a better friend to America and condemn and criticize it openly.  Why be in denial of what it has been and is actively doing.  The USA doesn't buy anyones soul, except during times of war, so how you serve your dignity is your choice and it shows up by the kind of friend you are being to the USA. With respect to me, Yes you are right my issue is rooted in emotion, I admit it too, openly.  I can not forgive the USA for the Unforgivable actions towards Iranians and Irans Culture, both in the past & up until including today and yes I am anti-IRI.  Also Britain, France and Russia all are to blame too (none comparable to US Harm, yet sigificant).  Basically without US Betrayal and ongoing US/UK manipulation our problem today would not be possible.  The Iranian people themselves have a huge part also, they make up almost all of the inner enemy, but without the Outer enemy the UK/USA/France they would not have been successful. 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear OnlyIran

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I agree with you Amirparviz is getting really old. Mostly I skip his posts. He now wants to tell us how to have "self respect". I like to tell him to mind he own business.

Free speech is one thing. But Amirparviz lecturing others is ridiculous. This person is acting as if her is above us. Then acts surprised when people ignore him. Well back to ignoring him :-) Thank you OnlyIran for being a voice of reason.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear OnlyIran

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I agree with you Amirparviz is getting really old. Mostly I skip his posts. He now wants to tell us how to have "self respect". I like to tell him to mind he own business.

Free speech is one thing. But Amirparviz lecturing others is ridiculous. This person is acting as if her is above us. Then acts surprised when people ignore him. Well back to ignoring him :-) Thank you OnlyIran for being a voice of reason.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Response to recent insults from Amirparviz

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Normally I ignore Amirparviz because of the content of his posts. Most of them are not worth responding because they are devoid of value. But when he directly makes claims about me I respond:

my tongue has become brown trying to resusitate lost causes, of which I
would include VPK because he worships America on many levels, despite
his own experiences.

I speak for myself and do not need "boland goo" to say what I worship. You sir are a broken record. All you do is repeat IRI propaganda. I don't say you are an IRI propagandist. But the posts sure reflect IRI point of view. Frankly I find your posts to be highly biased. Based on emotion and not reason. And generally total none sense which I often skip. This one I read because you had my name in it.

Regarding America I have something named "appreciation". When a nation welcomes me; gives me far better treatment than Iran I say "thank you". Unlike many of others I do not spit at my host. I know America is not perfect but is my host and deserves my thanks. I blame Britain and Russia far more than America when it comes to messing with Iran. No matter what America did it is my host and deserves my thanks.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

OI-My wish for you, is self respect based on using less lies

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

And therefore having more love in your heart.  If you really feel people have a right to any view, pro or con, then you wouldn't be bashing one for holding a different view.  You certainly wouldn't call tiger lilys specific criticism of your comments an "attack on you", she said...."your comments, all of them, are tedious, superfluous propaganda, at best." 
As for me, my heart is already taken.  Allso in case you were wondering you are the beneficiary of this advice, no one else can make you regret.  Since I seem to be the one specializing in lost causes, I guess I'd have to admit, that everyone of you is worth my time, regardless. 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

OI-My wish for you, is self respect based on using less lies

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

And therefore having more love in your heart.  If you really feel people have a right to any view, pro or con, then you wouldn't be bashing one for holding a different view.  You certainly wouldn't call tiger lilys specific criticism of your comments an "attack on you", she said...."your comments, all of them, are tedious, superfluous propaganda, at best." 
As for me, my heart is already taken.  Allso in case you were wondering you are the beneficiary of this advice, no one else can make you regret.  Since I seem to be the one specializing in lost causes, I guess I'd have to admit, that everyone of you is worth my time, regardless. 


Onlyiran

APSD - Keep it up - you're being a good boy

by Onlyiran on

perhaps one of these days, one of these so-called, self-proclaimed "women" on IC for whom you try to "shirin" yourself and kiss up to everytime they attack me, will go on a date with you.  

That's all I have to say.  you're not worth my time.   

I wish you the best of luck!

PS-I'm still laughing at your applause of the Native American avatar.  That was so funny!!!!  What a desperate lonely man you must be... 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

OnlyIran Hypocrit Jan incase you were wondering anyone can

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

read your "one and only reply to tigerlily."

I have even read one of the pieces of garbage that you have posted
as "blog" or "comment", and that's only because my username was in the
subject line.  

You're a broken record.  U.S. bad, everyone else good, blah blah, blah...

yawn.... 

 

Its hypocrits like you who write such a condemning note to tigerlily, then you come out with... "VPK Jaan - I really don't have a problem with people criticizing whomever they want.  I'm all for free speech."  Amou, when you get your brain cells working togehter realize this, just because you can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie, doesn't mean others can't, you are open like a book on this site and its no wonder you are lost in the manipulations and lies of the USA, you can't even see your own, how can you expect to see others?

 

 

 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Amir1973 illiterate, psychotic????

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

At least here in the UK we have free acces to treatment for these things, I'm not living in the USA so being either illiterate or psychotic as many Americans are due to government policies isn't a concern over here... such things don't benefit the govt over here in the UK, the way they benefit business in the USA, we treat our people like human beings, yaaaawn, interesting concept for you to read up on.  Amir if my mouth has become filthy its answering and informing proAmericans like yourselves.  Just keep paying your taxes, to support americas 11 aircraft carrier battle groups, forget receiving affordable healthcare and keep quiet.  Buy the T Shirt and Assume America and its values have been gods greatest gift to humanity since their creation.  Even though as an Iranian you should know better.  Don't take the brown nose comment personally, my tongue has become brown trying to resusitate lost causes, of which I would include VPK because he worships America on many levels, despite his own experiences.  Thats the power of living there and being influenced by the self serving lies spewed out in every book, movie, media, news, culture, history clip you come in contact with. 

 


Onlyiran

VPK Jaan - I really don't have a problem

by Onlyiran on

with people criticizing whomever they want.  I'm all for free speech.  But when you're here 24/7 posting one sided, psychotic (as Amir1973 puts it) nonsense drivel, straight out of the IRI's massively funded propaganda machine that has been in overdrive for the past 32 years...that just gets old and tiresome.  IRI has presented itself as the professional victim for the past three decades.  Hence, nothing that it does is wrong and everything that it does is someone else's fault.  And none of these morons are intelligent enough to see through this BS.  Some of them are not even pro-IRI per se, but they have drank the Kool-Aid.

And the hypocricy is there for everyone to see.  In the Arbabsiar case, they kept asking fr proof and claimed that it was a fabrication, even though that arrest came after months of investigation, and even after the guy confessed and had his connection in Iran on theb phone talking about it, all of which is on tape.  But in this case, they all came out, in unison right after the death of this guy and claimed, with absolute certainty, that it was an Israeli job.  The only other place that claimed so was IRI's propaganda machinery.  Now, it may very well have been an Israeli job, but the last entity that I believe right away and parrot like a mnkey would be the IRI.  Now, I'll be just like them in the rbabsiar case:  show me absolute proof.  I don't believe you.  I need a picture of the assassin's Israeli passport and a video confession by him saying he did it. :-)


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

I totally agree with you vpk

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

anyone is entitled to their view, my point was why was only iran being so offensive to anti-american posters as if its a sin to be pro or anti, make your case and move on.  As for Proof its in the pooding, today, yesterday and for 33 years, I'm not describing something you have any difficulty proving.  The maipulation is all the anti Iran rhetoric as if they didn't bring them and want to keep them, they are treating Iranians the same way they treated africans and indians and chinese etc, today based on neo-colonialism. My point is we can all see exactly what is going on up until now, why not diffuse the lies, the more truth out there each person can put out the more love they will have inside them for themselves and their fellow humanity.  Lets not try and learn from the USA, as things are going they are leading the world in the worst way and are not a decent example to aspire to based on so many markers on a mutual basis for themsleves and others, like human rights, progress, justice, peace, freedom.  Sure they take the cake for coercion, deceit and manipulation, but its not for me. As for you you are free to seek any inspiration you want USA etc, don't expect others to agree.  Especially in my case when I see the USA put these people in power and has done everything in her power to keep mullahs in power and has been following a policy of spreading Islam using the muslim brotherhood and others to impose sharia and lack of moderation, its clear as the light of day for most.  I think since its too grotesque most ignorant pro-Americans may be offended by what they are really supporting and even the suggestion is like an answer to a question that they can't swallow/believe.  When I look at my life and those of middle eastern heritage like me, I feel it is the most ignorant of all to feel that the USA has used its freedom justly with respect to our people.  Just because she has been able to manage her own people in the dark and others doesn't mean we all have to be clueless as to reality.


AMIR1973

Amirparviz, go wash out your filthy mouth

by AMIR1973 on

For an illiterate like you who posts psychotic tripe 24-7 to call me a " brown noser" is a bit rich, no? Go wash out your mouth.


Onlyiran

APSD you deserve another LOL!!!

by Onlyiran on

Spaking of having your nose up someone's .... what the hell is this:

 I don't follow anyones every comment, but you at least have an American Indian as an Icon which represents Iranian treatment and iranians fate at the hands of the USA better than anything else. I'm proud of you.

Another loud LOL!!!!  You do realize that that's a caricature of a native American (they're not Indians BTW), which is actually demeaning to them?  No, I take that back.  You're too dumb to realize it, as evidenced by the drivel that you post here day in and day out, which no one reads. Perhaps your sister doesn't realize the implications of the avatar either, but hey...never expected that ether.   

I think your comment here should get the dumbest comment of the year award.  I know that you try to kiss up to whoever presents ITself as a woman on this site, may be you're a lonely man...but come on...this is just too much, and just too funny.  LOL indeed!!!


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

People have right

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

to be for or against what they want in America. If OnlyIran does not like anti-Americans it is his business. I never read him claim to represent Iranians. Just as others may be anti-American.

I have some issues with anti-Americanism when pushed beyond reason. There are some who blame everything on America. Make outrageous claims but fail to back them up. If you say America did is supporting IRI I want proof. No proof means you are making an allegation. Which may or may not be true. This thread is filled with allegations. When you do that don't be surprised to not be taken seriously.

Now it does not mean I want to shut your free speech. What many people miss is disagreement does not mean opposing speech. "I oppose you" does not mean I want to shut you up. It means I want to voice my point in opposition to yours. Therefore I oppose points of many posts here. But I do not oppose the right to post them. Go on and say what you want but be prepared to get a rebuttal.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Tiger Lily I don't know OnlyIrans other views, but I am

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

confused at why he has a problem with the anti-usa crowd, who made him/her leader of the usa-brownnosers-for-iran-association a.b.f.i.a. , wasn't that Amir1973's position?  Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with being anti-usa, unless one can prove that their is some benefit of being pro-usa, a usa that betrayed Iranians since 79 and wants the IRI/religion in power in Iran for good having kept them there so far. I don't follow anyones every comment, but you at least have an American Indian as an Icon which represents Iranian treatment and iranians fate at the hands of the USA better than anything else. I'm proud of you.

OnlyIran: Its Ironic that one with a name OnlyFreakingIran would be a USbrowntongue, find some self dignity please, that way we'll all benefit, others wise onlyiranwhat? Only religious fundamentalists for iran, only suppression for iran, only oppression for iran, only corruption for iran, only regression for iran, only deceit for iran, only manipulation for iran?  Has the news not reached your spot that these are exactly the only things the usa wants for iran and actively pursues diplomatically & coercively?  Maybe if you were to move your nose out of its current placement you'd hear more too, lol.

 


Tiger Lily

LOL!!!

by Tiger Lily on

Now I'm in the anti-US brigade. LOL!!!

 

I suppose stupidity is a form of security for a lot of plebs.


Onlyiran

Tiger Lily - this will be my first and last EVER comment to you

by Onlyiran on

Javab ablahan khamooshist.  You're really not the type that I would engage in a debate or a discussion or even respond to.  In fact, this is one of the extremely rare occasions that I have even read one of the pieces of garbage that you have posted as "blog" or "comment", and that's only because my username was in the subject line.  

You're a broken record.  U.S. bad, everyone else good, blah blah, blah...

yawn.... 


Tiger Lily

OnlyIran, your comments, are tedious, superfluous propaganda

by Tiger Lily on

your comments, all of them, are tedious, superfluous propaganda, at best.

 


Patriot

"فرد ترور شده منتقد ادامۀ برنامۀ هسته ای ایران بود"

Patriot


کارمندان سابق وزارت خارجه ایران: "فرد ترور شده منتقد ادامه برنامه هسته ای ایران به قیمت فقر عمومی، تحریم و تحمیل جنگ بود"
کمپین سفارت سبز در بیانیه ای که پنجشنبه 12-1-2011 منتشر کرده، خاطر نشان کرده است: " گزارش و اطلاعات واصله به کمپین، مستند به اسناد مثبته از حادثه ترور معاون بازرگانی تاسیسات هسته ای نطنز، حاکی است که زنده یاد مصطفی احمدی روشن ، منتقد ادامه برنامه هسته ای رژیم بشکل فعلی و به قیمت فقر عمومی ، تورم و گرانی، تحریم و تحمیل جنگی دیگر به ملت ایران بود."
//www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/01/12/18797...


Onlyiran

Hypocrisy of the anti-U.S. crowd

by Onlyiran on

Their reponse to the Manosur Arbabsiar affair:  It's all a fabrication.  The IRI was not involved.  Show us the evidence (tapes, confession, etc. notwithstaning).

The Basiji - scientist assassination: It's all Israel's fault.  We know it.  Fars News says it.  It must be true.  That's how Mossad does things, blah, blah, blah...

I don't usually "LOL" anything, but this one definitely deserves an LOL!!! 


iraj khan

Leon Pantea, U.S. Defense Secretary:

by iraj khan on

"U.S. has "ideas" who killed Iranian scientist,"

Reuters - The United States has ideas about who may have assassinated an Iranian nuclear scientist this week but doesn't know for sure and was not involved in any way, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told U.S. soldiers on Thursday.

"I can tell you one thing: The United States was not involved in that kind of effort. That's not what the United States does," Panetta told a town hall meeting of soldiers at Fort Bliss.

"We have some ideas as to who might be involved but we don't know exactly who was involved," he said, adding that "we were not involved in any way, in any way, with regards to the assassination that took place there."

//www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/13/us-nuclear-iran-usa-idUSTRE80C01620120113


G. Rahmanian

Dear Videmose!

by G. Rahmanian on

I agree with you 100%! Whether objectively feasible or not, I believe every mosque that has been built by the state must be turned into a school where younger generations can go to and get educated in modern sciences. Especially, in places where there are no schools. You cannot imagine how irritating the loudspeakers of a mosque during the prayer time can be! No, thank you! "Spirituality" demands solemnity . There is no solemnity in using loudspeakers!


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

I agree with IRI must go, but we need a Secular Democracy to

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

replace them, not just another group of mullahs that want to show us a bigger better islamic democracy.  Bringing up khameneii to the ICC for crimes and supporting HM Reza Pahlavi putting together a congress to replace the IRI are important irreversible steps, the benefit of doing it this way is if USA/UK/France & western governments that love IRI behind everyones backs go and side with the IRI as we are trying to topple them, then they will be seen doing this before the international community.  So they can't have it both ways, like they have for 33 years. Condemning the IRI openly yet giving the IRI everything it needs to survive and thrive.

Now If the west does not support this process, while we all do and down the line suppresses it, then Iranians will all be alert as to who's side they are on.


vildemose

 dear GR:  Religion

by vildemose on

 dear GR:

 Religion is what drives difference­s in political and social movement-but mostly backwards, all across the planet.people just need to evolve beyond the tribalism and their superstici­ous need for religion. the desperatio­n to cling to oil and nuke powered politics, land grabbing, centuries old grudges, it has to stop.

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


G. Rahmanian

Criminal Islamists Must Go!

by G. Rahmanian on

That's what Iranians want! IR's deals with the rest of the world have no relevancy to the legitimate demands of Iranians for democracy and democratic freedoms. The ruling criminal Islamists are increasingly concerned about their own safety and what happens to them if and when there is a regime change. Any move they make is a desperate attempt to help them stay in power. They should not be trusted!


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Abamard on love of IRI by USA. 33 years and counting.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

My First Question to you was, How long can the USA continue playing this 33 year bluff?  At some point people have to wake up and realize the mass media and US policy has them totally fooled.  First by using the media to fool their own people that they are against the IRI and then by khar kardan of Iranians to get them to think they are at odds with the IRI also.  So many people Iranian/American/British are totally clueless regarding the US Governments desire
for and backing of the IRI, and this policy never changes in the USA regardless of which party wins Republican/Democrat.  Usually these clueless people are the same bit#$s that complain why isn't Reza Pahlavi doing more, as if he's not doing everything he can faithfully.  My 2nd Question to you.  Also why is it such a shock to so many people that the USA is pretending manipulatively that they are opposed to the IRI, and really it is the policy of the USA to prey on the people of Iran by playing them like a bunch of patsys and in practice doing absolutely anything they can to help IRI and act in such a way to suppress the people of Iran  from liberating themselves, with both british and Israeli help, so infact they can't achieve greater freedom and democracy?  Do you think this harms their pride, maybe realizing the truth offends them?  I usually find the people that have a problem swallowing reality are the same "zangiries" (deranged on an institutional level) who find it hard to swallow that the late Shah was a democrat and his #1 goal for Iran was to one day be a democratic leader.


Siavash300

Breaking news...The result of assassination

by Siavash300 on

VIENNA (AP) — Diplomats say Iran has agreed to discuss charges that it secretly worked on nuclear arms after refusing to do so for years.

The two diplomats tell The Associated Press that the topic will be a main focus of talks set for Jan. 28, during a visit to Tehran by senior officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

No date has previously been mentioned for the trip. Thursday's comments by the diplomats were also the first word that Iran was ready talk about the allegations after stonewalling requests to do so for more than three years.

The diplomats spoke condition of anonymity because of confidentiality rules.