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Soosan khanoom Jaan

I just heard Mehmanparast said; Americans are not in a position to lecture us about human rights, he welcomed those whose hands are not soaked in blood. Individuals and governments.

Here is the opposition's chance.  The question is whether the oppositions are going to take the right steps. By oppositions I mean oppositions, not Gaavdari!!!

Keep the hope alive!!!

Nice poem !

You are so sweet!

Thanks a bunch. 

 :)  

Soosan Khanoom

امیر پرویز مثل آبکش میمونه. یک دریا رَم توش خالی کنی٬ آخرش باز خالیه.
این هم یک شعر برای شما.

ميگن شَبا فرشته ها،
از آرزوي آدما،
قصه ميگن واسه خدا....
خدا كنه همين شبا ،
قصهء تو ، هر چي كه هست
گفته بشه پيش خدا !!!‬

Dear Amir,

Obviously something was wrong at the time of shah otherwise there would have been no revolution. As I said it before, revolution was a reaction, not an action. There were not just a few people who were manipulated by BBC etc ... There was an ocean of people in the streets. Even Shah himself heard the voice of revolution. Therefore, not everything was perfect. Ok, now that was then ..

Let us take a look at things now..

Do you seriously think that the majority of Iranian people want the monarchy back?  I know many people who are saying that IRI turned out to be worse than Shah but, at the same time, I do not see many saying that they want Shah back!   

Also, could you please discuss things, as is,  rather than keep going back to the golden age of Shah?  : )   ...... I think the golden age of Shah and Khomeini is over... our people should move on.   but, again, that is my opinion. 

Other than that I agree with what you are saying! Now, what  is it that you are saying?  lol   See , Amir jan, as soon as you start bringing up the late shah and his golden age you lose me cause that was then but I am more interested in now..

never mind ... 

: ) 

Masud jan , I try to be more hopeful ..

My point is that we should want to do it at first place ... to achieve human rights, first, the Iranian people should acknowledge their rights and then they should stand up and demand it. I am not sure, at this very moment, other than of a few enlightented ones who are sadly being kicked into the jail, there are that many in Iran acknowledging their rights yet alone stand up for it.

"Every country has the government it deserves" Sadly this may be true !

These mullas can sell anything as long there are buyers.  How one can make those ignorant buyers aware?   

Faramarz

Before you post a link, read it and try to understand it!

You Wanna Have a Good Time G.I.!

Javad Larijani wants to negotiate with the US, even if it is in hell!

Like a bunch of desperate street walkers looking for a drunken sailor!

Sanctions work!

//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2012/11/121107_l...

Soosan Khanoom

Well Of Course, US cannot lecture Iran on human rights. That part of negotiations should be done by Iranians who have not taken sides with enemies of Iran. Human rights negotiations can be done directly by Iranians or through other countries that have clean human rights record and their hands are not soaked in blood.  Neutral country such as, Switzerland. I mentioned this a few years ago.

I listen to analysts in Iran. They are very smart and often right when it comes to international policies, because they base their views on facts, unlike the domestic policies that are based on fictions.

I assumed that Valerie Jarrett is being accompanied by Switzerland Ambassador and some others as neutral referees. Switzerland could also invite carefully selected Iranian activists to negotiate and resolve political prisoners issue, etc.

If we want to fix the problems, we must be optimistic and do the right things and right things don’t mean giving up our rights.  

کوششهای جناحی از سپاه در پرداختن بدیلی ناسیونالیستی- نظامی برای

رقابت اسلامیسم و ناسیونالیسم

الاهه بقراط

پس از مرگ خمینی، زمامداران حکومت، بدون آنکه شعار معروف نظام را به یاد
بیاورند، خود «دمکراتیک» و «ملی» را برای «فریبِ خلق» به کار گرفتند! اگر
خمینی با تکیه بر ایدئولوژی اسلامی تلاش کرد دمکراسی و ملی‌گرایی را از
میدان به در کند، اگر امروز تلاش می‌شود موج ملی‌گرایی در جامعه در خدمت
اسلامیسم عملا موجود به کار گرفته شود، باید آن سوی قضیه را نیز دید که
نیرویی در جامعه رشد فزاینده می‌یابد که راه از میدان به در کردن اسلامیسم
را در ناسیونالیسم افراطی می‌جوید //www.alefbe.com/Articles/2012/kayhanlondon_1...

نگران نباشید

اسلامیون احمق تر از اینند که فایده و سود روابط با آمریکا را بدانند. کلید تداوم جکومت اسلامی ایران در دشمنی با آمریکاست. سیاست مرگ بر آمریکا سیاست بسیار حساب شده ایست. بقول حسن عباسی این دکترین نظام است.

این تماسهای زیر میزی اوباما هم به این خاطر است که به مردم امریکا بگویند ما سعی مان را برای صلح کردیم. ایرانی ها کوتاه نیامدند: 

//www.khodnevis.org/persian/%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C/%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA/15529-%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%B1-%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%84%DB%8C-%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%86%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%A7-%D8%A8%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%AF-%D8%AC%D9%86%DA%AF-%D8%B1%D8%A7-%D8%A2%D8%BA%D8%A7%D8%B2-%DA%A9%D9%86%DB%8C%D9%85.html 

soosan

Your comment: Human rights should be fought for inside Iran and by  the Iranian people
themselves. They should stand up for their God given rights. They have
to demand their rights, otherwise no one is going to give it to them.

Its only Partilly true, the word fight is part of the old way, the correct path is to talk and have people use use their conscience to create cooperation and in doing so to support a good leader that represents most iranians.  Solidarity and Unity are essential among all secular democratic political forces. 

for example when Iranians backed the late shah before their own extremists deceived them as did the west which backed the extremists, Iranians were enjoying peace, progess and massively improving human rights, iranians proved the relevance of the shah-han-shahi in creating for the first time and uniting moderate and progressive forces.  Iran of the past produced many of the best Iranians.  Yet Iran of today has been incapable of producing the same caliber of people.  If iranians can not destinguish between what is possible for them and what is not possible for them, they will go down a path of worse turmoil until Iran as its own worse enemy finishes itself off, like today. 

Today it is the duty of the most intelligent Iranians to point their own people towards their own positive culture and traditions, and help the people in  their inner struggle to not allow corrupt, extremist anti-monarchist elements to mis-represent the monarchy and in doing so dominate Iranians. 

Since Iranians want democracy in particular monarchists, yet iranians are now further behind in terms of development and industrialization than significantly backwards and poverty stricken south africa and india, Irans young leadership needs to use their heartfelt wisdom more than ever if they wish to act beyond how they are urged to feel about things and how they think things are supposed to be.  Iranians will need to be more understanding than all the west if they wish to succceed as the west is not playing cooperation, but old style win lose competion.  The humiliation, suffering and pain the antimonarchists have unleashed onto Iranians with the IRI can be used to motivate Iranians to expand their understanding or never be able to solve their problems, Javid Shah-han-shahi & Javid Shah.

 Masoud5: Anyone who

 Masoud5: Anyone who justifies stoning of women cannot be logically part of any solution except suicide bombing...Your ilk have nothig to offer but bigory, violence, and hatred. Please stop deducing knowledge  of people you don't know. You are clueless as they come.

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

Negotiations never ended.

Negotiations never ended. Khameni refused to budge because he did not have any reason to until he saw the devastating effects of the sanction

The only reason the Islamic Republic of hell is coming to the negotiaiton table is the "Sanctions". Sanctions worked. Yes, it was painful, but if in the long run averts Iran being bombed then it's worth it.

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

I wish these meetings were for human rights but I doubt it

These are mostly for Petrodollars and may be Syria ... We all know the nuclear Issue is fake and never existed to begin with. Also, as I said human rights is not on the table. Why would U.S care about human rights in Iran?  Look at U.S close friend in the region .. the Saudi Arabia ??? duh !

Human rights should be fought for inside Iran and by  the Iranian people themselves. They should stand up for their God given rights. They have to demand their rights, otherwise no one is going to give it to them.  

Just look at the crowd who gather to see the hanging of people, some even bring their kids to see it. We are living in the dark ages. We as a people..as a generation should wake up and stop this. Until then no one will or can stop it for us.  

I heard another thing that was sad from a savaki too

He said 1 crazy suicidal person who will die for xyz is worth 1000 soldiers.  I am not saying or implying they're all the most loving and giving people, but most of them that i met did have respect for the law and were unlike many iranians in other sectors they were just not as corruptable and they were more patriotic than most, love for other iranians.  So the issue is that education is very important for Iranian Freedom, we all should be clear about it.  The thing is this savaki you spoke to didn't know the difference between a king and a dictator, a dictator can order killings ie use absolute power with out a court, but king can not.  And as iranians we have an issue with this subject, due to the tyranny of thought religion has imposed it has caused major social problems and fixing it is a very complex one, as religion is a personal right for all to have or not.  Whether led by corrupt authorities or not.

amirparviz

The man who told me if you have hundred men to kill for you, you can become a king, worked for Savak. He wasn't bull shitting (Laafing).

Roosbeh_Gilani

Had they started these negotiations long ago, chances are not just Sattar, but many others would have been alive and well today. That is if they really negotiate and don't play politics and games.  This could lead to freedom of other political prisoners. so they don't end up with the same fate?  I can write more, but I don't want to give wrong ideas to wrong people. Someone once said, if you have hundred men willing to kill for you, you can become a king. Unfortunately,  that is the case. Evin is running Iran.  It is foolish to risk millions of lives for hundred criminals. Whether in Iran or Israel or else. That is a lose lose situation. There are better ways.

Roozbeh, it doesn't take a genius to dislike ahmadinejad

or the IRI, but it is surprising that Iranians who are not part of the fundamentalist extremist group, still have trust for the USA / UK / France or Obama or Hilary or any other western leader, in their desire to reach their goals for Iran.

These leaders know what a decent leader the late shah was and what a humane team he had and yet they worked with extremist anti-monarchists to harm iran as badly as they could.  The goal was never to help Iranians become democratic, had that been even a consideration they would have supported the leader that was the most democratic leader in the world in his own time the late shah.  Instead of lying about him, his team and the issues of the day through gross misrepresentation and exageration.  Their goal was a political one, to thwart Irans progress and development and to regress Iran as far as possible.  Infact their first goal was to do what they did to Iraq, invade it in the name of bringing democracy, but the shah had their secret plans right infront of him along with knowledge that he and his team were not going to live for too long, so he gave up his life and the throne which belongs to all Iranians to save Iran from US Destruction and set the USA up for exposure of its crimes before the people of iran in years to come.  So my question to you is how long are you going to play clue less????  Why would Valerie Jarret ever do anything for the people of Iran, her mission is to keep the IRI in power at all costs and keep her bosses, real bosses happy.ie not the people who elected him. but the people that paid for obamas reputation among people, control their views and get people to vote for him.

Freedom, Human Rights and progress towards democracy are what Valerie and her crew are opposed to, and the injustices and inequalities in the world, not just in Iran are what the USA has helped to create and keep in place. Its why they told the late shah we will remove you if you educate, train and industrialize Iranians, after never delivering steel plants to Iran, which iran had signed contracts for decades earlier.

Shiva
Nazar-Ahari, political prisoner: "when your heart begins to beat for a
human being and his or her rights, that's where you start to slip.
That's where interrogations and questions begin. When your heart beats
for a human being, for a prisoner, for a woman, for a child laborer,
that's when your crimes begin. That's the exact point where you
committed a crime. It's because you started believing in human
beings...you began respecting their rights and nothing else"

Its time you put your extremist politics aside Roozbeh, and start to acknowledge at the very least that this was exactly the way that the heart of the late shah, his prime minister and doctor beated for Iranians and they deserved better treatement back then and today. Don't think that time won't expose you, not even the usa/uk/france have been capable of concealing their agendas and the truth behind their games for a long period, you will be exposed too if you continue on a wrong path and while it doesn't matter to you now, it will matter to the many people who have been through the suffering they are experiencing today within Iran in its backward, corrupted, poverty stricken, tyrannical state that anti-monarchists helped create in 1979, by firstly lying about the late shah.  We are likely to have many more thousands of deaths and tens of millions of suffering, it would make sense for their sake you use your conscience and not your muscles or your fists.   Also P.S. please realize that this was the friendly, loving, kind and happy version for your eyes.

Good point

she can also visit the grave of 4 women who were just stoned to death! or is she leaving it for Sean Penn or Bill Maher to do that part?

she should visit Sattar Beheshti's grave....

whilst in Tehran. It would be still very, very fresh.... 

//iranian.com/main/blog/roozbeh-gilani/sattar-beheshti

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Faramarz,DK,Vildemose,tehran e Azad

لاف زدن مشکل حل نمیکنه٬ فقط ایجاد میکنه. اگر حل کن بود شما تا به حا ل مشکلا ت تمام دنیا رو حل کرده بودید.

Aha

What ever! 

Marg bar jomhooriye eshali!  

Roozbeh_Gilani

نیومدی به بلاگ آلترناتیو سازی تا در مورد متقاعد کردن به قول شما اسلامیان حاکم صحبت کنیم. حرف من این بود که نمیشه هم قهر کرد وهم مذاکره و اگر مشکلات رو با مذاکره حل نکنیم نهایتأ به احتمال قوی به جنگ ختم خواهد شد و در این جنگ میلیونها از بین میرند. فرستادن سلمان رُشدی رو برای مذاکره جدّی نگیری!

Good Job Indeed.

Should have done it long time ago, but it's not too late to prevent a disaster. One of the key negotiation subjects must be human rights and freedom of political prisoners.

Valerie Jarret should be accompanied with some of Iranian human right activists who know international  law, Islam, nuclear issues, etc  to help with negotiations. Two of such candidates can be,  Shirin Ebadi and Mohammad Sahimi.

Wish them success.

Demo, where you born in a barn?

Why did you attempt to degrade this African American lady based on her facial features?

You think everyone thinks you are good looking?

I am certain of 1 thing; you were born and raised in a barn not a civilized house hold.

اگر آن ترک شیرازی بدست آرد دل مارا!

Khamenei negotiating with an African-American woman on behalf of the "Great Satan!"

I don't think so!

About Valerie Jarrett

//iranian.com/main/blog/all-iranians/about-valerie-jarrett

24/7 Secret Service Protection

for the ugliest Shirazi-born lady ever:

//www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/14...

From a Fellow Shirazi Hamshari: Up Yours Ma'am !

Regardless of Who Wins the US Presidency America Is No More Our Natural Ally

I'm sure being Obama's representative the IRI will

treat her differently than they treated Zahra Kazemi.  //www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1L5tPyA5YM