RECONSTRUCTION

Kourosh

Kourosh says: "I don't see iran being under constant threat by anybody."

That adds to many other things that you can't see. Read more before you write lines and lines of "politically-sharp and scientifically-inclined" comments!! :))))
BTW, Kourosh_jAn, FK is not pro war, you are not pro Israeli and pigs fly ....

Payam

It is true, Majority of Arabs sided with Iraqis. As for the rest of your story tell that to someone who wasn't in Iran at the time .... the war was mainly fought by Iranian volunteers (absolute majority Muslim) who were led by what you call "arab representative".
Even U.S major TV channels with all their bias against Iran have shown documentaries of that war ... watch them ..

Anonym7 aziz,

It was not the arab representatives that halted the Iraqi army at Iran's borders and kicked them out. It was the Iranian army consisting of my fellow beloved Iranians who teached the world a lesson about Iranian ressiliance. Lots of "Iranians" lost their life defending Iran, no arab risked his life to defend Iran. Infact all arab nations, Palestinians who's balls Iran's current regime loves to to lick included, supported saddam's advantures againt Iran. May god damn them all who wished all Iranians death and suffering.

Ananymous 7

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"arab representatives" (to Kourosh)

Kourosh says "khoobiat nadare...zeshte."

Koroush_jAn, it is ZESHT[ugly] when seemingly Iranian people (e.g., Kashani, Kazemzadh, ...) advocate war and sanctions against Iran, demonize Iran, and blame Iran for all the evils while Iran is under constant threat by Israel and U.S. .....
I don't follow the mosque, the kaniseh, and Atashkadeh (my ancestors did) but I know if what Mr. Payam calls "arab representatives" had not stopped the enemy, the enemy would have done the same thing that they have done to Iraqis ... except they would have succeeded in inflicting more destruction and death on Iran. ZESHT is siding with the ruthless enemy because one does not like the mosque.

PAs key?

Agha jan.

Pas key mikahy az in baziaye bache gane dast bekeshi?
khoobiat nadare...zeshte.

Doctor_jAn (to Payam)

Payam says: "Iranians should be building Fire Tempels ( Atashkadeh)."

Doctor_jAn, I seriously doubt that Iran needs more Atashkadehs, or mosques for that matter. Nevertheless Iran already produces large number of internal combustion engines, each of which is a small Atashkadeh.

Payam

Payam says: "Because of my background as a medical student, I have enjoyed extended psychology training."

Very good Payam. Can you please help this good man (Kourosh) then?

Goodness Gracious

Two diagnoses in one Night! Something is definitely Up.

Ananymous joon

If i were you I'd be putting on running shoes and heading to my local shrink's office... Come one dadash Vamonos. Andale. Do something useful for yourself and your community.

Ananymous 7

Bazam bayad behet begam? Akhe key mikhay havaseto jam koni Ya ke na makhsoosan mikhay maze berizee? I'd go for the second one.

You "AAn Aaalyze" things too much. Not good for your already declining mental health .

Capt. Ayhab,

Because of my background as a medical student, I have enjoyed extended psychology training. And based on your unbalanced comments, I can only presume a personality disorder or intoxicity as the cause of your behaviour. It wasn't my aim to call you an addict, but I still feel that you should have your head examined. Whether your way of reacting and your condition as whole is caused by drugs or you ( and
Anonym7 for that matter too) are suffering from a personality disorder, is hard to say since I need to examin you more closely.

btw, I liked the way you communicate in Parsi much better. It seemed more polite and considering. And oh, i am a teetotalist and the same for drugs and smoking. Am more of a sport guy. But for the part of "kafar", you may be right (apart from my deep respect toward Zoroastrianism).

Vassalome aleykom va rahhmatollahe va barakato.

Anonym7

What are you talking about?

Nilou

Nilou, because of my respect for you I said "I stand corrected" without hesitation and reading the other comments. What you said shows high level of integrity in your part, but after reading his comments more carefully I wonder if you were right in defending him.

delusional? (to Payam)

I am "delusional", Freds, Kazemzadehs, Kashanis, ... and the sheeshakis who support them are imaginary creatures, and they are not pro Israeli!?

Ms Parsi

No he did not ask for blood. It was my suggestion If he wanted to get rid of Islam in Iran there was only few options available, Either one must have a [FINAL SOLUTION] as Nazi's wanted or forceful conversion of entire population.

No you did not speak out of context, I value your suggestions always.

Regards

-YT

captain khan

I just thought that there was a misunderstanding in the first place that led to acrimony. i didn't see where or how payam called for blood in the first place, but pls forgive me if i have misunderstood. it was not really my business.

peace

Ms. Parsi

Your wisdome and your comments have always been civil and logical, and you know I have great deal of respect for you.

However with all due respect regarding Mr. Payam, I do not take character defamation, innuendos, and personal attack lightly.

Respectfully

-YT

جناب پیام

جناب پیام
از تنها چیزی یک انسان با شعور و فهمیده باید احساس سر افگندگی و شرم داشته باشه وقتی هست که بدون شناختن فرد مقابل و بدون احترام گذاشتن به عقیده شخص مورد خطاب شروع  به عربده کشی ,نام گذاری تهمت و بد دهنی کنه.
درست کاری که سرکار عالی در مورد بنده کردید. امیدوارم که منظورم را درست متوجه شده باشین.

در مورد مشروب خوردن, مواد مخدر واراجیف و مزخرفات دیگری که بی شرمانه به بنده و سایر حظار محترم تحویل میدین با عرض معذرت بگم که یک ظرب المثل شیرین فارسی میگه "کافر همه را به کیش خود پندارد"

-YT

Divinity rules

My dear Divinity, you say[My dear reformist Capt. Khan; Pahlavis with all their enormous
shortcomings and despite their autocratic rule, never ever claimed to
be God's reps on Earth, and/or on a mission from Almighty to establish
the just rule of Islam in Iran and all over the world. One wonders why
all this bribery, corruption, prostitution, etc.etc. must go on under
the thumbs and noses of a bunch who claim to be divine and on such a
divine mission?!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

If calling for the rule of law, and rooting the corruption makes me a reformist, well so be it. You criticize my point as though I have said anything against your beliefs. As a result  you go about defending Pahlavi Dynasty.

If Pahlavi dynasty is going be shown in a positive light ONLY when compared to another set of criminals in this case IR, then I should say[che bad bakhtim dige maha Irania]

It is undeniable fact that corruption has always been rampant in your culture and particularly our government, be it Pahlavi or IR. However if you like to love Pahlavi's since according to you they are a bit less corrupt[which is highly debatable], be my guest. Sorry that I do not share those values with you.

Regards

-YT

Well, maybe the drug addict accusations were a bit to harsh,

But I still think "some" are a bit delusional here at Iranian.com ( and on internet as whole for that matter), what ever the cause may be.

Thanks Niloufar for getting the point I was trying to make and thanks to Kourosh who also notices the poor methodes (once again) "some" use to make their point. And in the course of doing so accuse people of being something they absoloutly are not.

Allergy season

I wonder why some must always throw in the "pro israelI" and "neo fascism" into the mix and try hard to make their views look  logical and valid by making such accusations, especially in a form of one-liners and short paragraphs.

I guess the allergy season has been extended a bit this year and in search of a cure, they are growing restless. I wish i could recommed some FDA approved products, but since there aren't any, they might take advantage of a wide range of educational programs offered to such individuals on IRTV. who knows , a cure may eventually emerge.

Good Luck.

To AnonymousXYZ - the rare bird with a surviving eye for art

You seem to be the only one here with an eye for art and architecture. I agree with you, it's painful to see what they have built after having seen the original Bam. There was so much inspiration to draw from the original and update it to a more minimalist style, and instead you get a lot of pastiche, dissonant colours, pagoda roofs, fuchsia veil curtains. No harmony, no sense of balance and proportion and everything that is supposed to produce good art and architecture. It used to come naturally to the people of Iran, but now our vision has been dissociated from its natural roots. AThere is much worse than Bam to be seen in Iran and when I see the photographs and comments sent by some of our expats, I truly despair. All is not lost, though, there is a small proportion of evil with excellent taste who produce works of beauty in Iran, but the majority is merely a Disneyfied version of what they think is nice and trendy. Nor do most expats understand our art, or even art in general, any better. Their depictions of ancient Iranian heroes and heroines in the very worst pedestrian academic style of the 19th century make a spoof of these characters instead of glorifying them. And what they seem to like in Iran are precisely the cheap pastiches of our arts and crafts. Indeed, one hardly ever hears of any of these bloggers writing about their museum visits. It takes more than that to develop taste and appreciation, but at least it's a good beginning, of which one sees more examples even in Iran than among expats.

Thank you again for being the rare bird who shares my view on this. The others seem to judge our art on the basis of the ideology it portrays rather on its intrinsice value as an inspired creation emanating from millennia of experienced eyes who passed on their vision for many centuries but have come to a dead end of philistinism inside and outside.

Having said that, I have not lost all hope thanks to the few who have eyes and understanding and produce inspired innovation and still understand what made our traditional art and especially our architecture and crafts great.

{If you want to read more about my views on this, go to the Letters page on atimes.com and see my May 18th response to an article by Shahir Shahidsaless. Don't blog back, since I don't have the time to check out replies)

Ok Nilou, Payam

I stand corrected. Thanks Nilou.

Captain, Anonym7:

you both know i am a fan of your comments, but i think you guys have got the wrong end of the stick with payam. he was actually being quite nice and reasonable i thought. he was arguing against extremism in a roundabout way. and i think you both missed it because you were Not high!

Sorry Payam, i didn't dig your drugs dig there!

Peace

Here is your translation Capt Ayhab:

نمیدونم از چی‌ بیشتر احساس شرم کنم. از اینکه با آدمی‌ مثل تو اینجا دهان به دهان می‌کنم یا از اینکه امثال تو حرف تو دهن مردم میذارن.

اگر زحمتی برات نیست پیغام‌هایی‌ رو که اینجا نوشتم یه مطالعه بکن و ببین کجا از کشتار مسلمان یا هر فرقه دیگر اسم برده شده. بحث بر این بود که من یا هر کس دیگر نباید مداخله کند که چند مسجد ساخته میشود. من هم عرض کردم که چرا به من ربط دارد از آنجا که این مساجد با پول مردم ایران که من هم جزو آنها هستم، ساخته میشود. اگر قرار است مکان مذهبی‌ ساخته شود، بهتر است که آتشکده باشد که مسلممن پر ربط تر به استان کرمان و مردم ایران هست و نه مسجد. حالا در کجائ کلم من شما کشتار دیدی، من نمیدونم. این رو بر حسب خیال پروریت میزارم. احتمالا مشروبات یا تنهایی‌ پشت کامپیوتر یا مواد مخدر بر عقل جناب عالی‌ تاثیر گذاشته. مانند رفیقت که من رو طرفدار اسرائیل می‌‌پنداره. در ضمن گفتی‌ انگلیسیم ایراد داره، خبر بده کجاش تا درست کنم. میدونی‌، من آخه مثل شما آمریکایی‌ نشدم. بیشتر پارسی‌ صحبت می‌کنم.

حال و حوصله جر و بحث با امثال تو رو ندارم، واسه همین دیگه انتظار پیغام از من نداشته باش. من البته منتظر پیغامت هستم.

To Capt_Ayhab: But mullahs claim they are DIVINE!

You said: "It was during Pahlavi, and international aid purred into country, however there was so much corruption that took several years to re built, and it was not built according to any standards. Years later in 2002 it was struck again which killed many people ... corruption has always been rampant in our government and always will be, Unless fundamental cultural maturity and rule of law prevails and roots out the corrupted elements from society."

My dear reformist Capt. Khan; Pahlavis with all their enormous shortcomings and despite their autocratic rule, never ever claimed to be God's reps on Earth, and/or on a mission from Almighty to establish the just rule of Islam in Iran and all over the world. One wonders why all this bribery, corruption, prostitution, etc.etc. must go on under the thumbs and noses of a bunch who claim to be divine and on such a divine mission?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't see more corruption

I don't see more corruption in Bam, looks to me like less corruption in Iran than before. If it was more corruption those pictures of the schools and the government building and sports stadium must be fake (which of course I do not think they are).

A fine article! Many thanks - you make many Iranians happy with the good news.

What do we have Quickly for lunch after the earth Quick Quickly

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The Frowning Face Revisited

Ever time I see a man saying after his meal:
O thanks Lord
I am now all fed
Feed those who are hungry
I tell myself:
O what a lie...
For man's stomach throughout his life time
Is like an endless abyss well
And it will never ever get filled
Even if he has eaten up to the rim
His most delicious lunch or dinner
In row and for few weeks in fine dine

Poet Abol H. Danesh
Copyright ©2009 Poet Abol H. Danesh

Kaveh

I agree with you about corruption. Nice to see many reasonable comments from you recently.

Captain

I agree, corruption is a deep seated problem back home, and what makes it worse is that it is not only culturally accepted for the most part, but that it's expected.

Maybe my expectations for our homeland are simply too ambitious. Maybe I don't want to see the same culture of corruption in Iran that exists in places like Mexico.

I also want to avoid comparing regimes in this regard, but I think it's sad and pathetic that the only lesson learned between then and now seems to be one in how to be even more corrupt then before while managing to bamboozle some people into thinking that the government is actually benevolent or magnanimous.

I don't know about you, but I think that a long time ago it went way beyond being called "zerangi". Just my opinion, anyway.