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In Khaa'en haii ke rafteh boodand oon meymoon'e ikpiri ro bebinand ki boodan??? Agar enghadr az ahmadinejad khosheshoon miad, chera nemiran gooreshoono gom konan Iran o oonja zire sayeye jomhoori'e kassif'e eslami zendegi konan??? Moondan america ke chi?

Omidvaram roozi beresseh ke hameye in khaaenin beran balaye daar.

Re: ENGHAD ZER NAZAN..........

Bebin Fariba Khanoom Hasoodi nakoon ke Agha Kaveh Yekhanoom Payda Kardeh. Dar Zemn Ki dareh Zer Mizane, Hame Ghayr az shoma DOROST YA NA. Have A Nice Day.

ENGHAD ZER NAZAN

Nourani AH! baba to bazam harf zadi???? Chi karet konam enghad ezhare nazar nakoni, how much time do you spend typing this stuff??? Boro chandelier bazi ENGHAD ZER NAZAN

LoL

Too much Hollywoodian movies ? ha? hahahaha.God bless you :D

Persian werewolf

Werewolf of Tehran

if you hear him howling around
“You've got to change your evil ways”

Better heed his advice
Or He'll cut off his oil supply, Jim
But if you play nice
He is as cuddly as Persian kitten

Kaveh N: This is a great

Kaveh N:

This is a great article that should be read by everyone:

TEHRAN: When Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was first elected president, he said that Iran had more important issues to worry about than how women dress. He even called for allowing women into soccer games, a revolutionary idea for revolutionary Iran.

Today, Iran is experiencing the most severe crackdown on social behavior and dress in years, and women are often barred from smoking in public, let alone from attending a public event in a stadium.

Since coming to office two years ago, Ahmadinejad has grabbed headlines around the world and in Iran for outrageous statements that often have no more likelihood of implementation than his soccer plan. He generated controversy in New York last week by asking to visit the site of the destroyed World Trade Towers - a request that was denied - and by agreeing to speak at Columbia University on Monday.

But it is because of his provocative remarks, like denying the Holocaust and calling for Israel to be wiped off the map, that the United States and Europe have never known quite how to handle the firebrand president, say politicians, officials and experts in Iran.

In demonizing Ahmadinejad, they say, the West has served him well, elevating his status at home and across the region at a time when he is increasingly isolated politically because of his go-it-alone style and ineffective economic policies.

Political analysts here are surprised at the degree to which the West focuses on their president, saying the denunciations reflect a general misunderstanding of their system. Unlike in the United States, say, the Iranian president is not the head of state nor the commander in chief. That status is held by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader, whose role combines civil and religious authority. At the moment, this president's power comes from two sources, they say: the unqualified support of the supreme leader, and the international condemnation he manages to generate when he speaks up.

"The United States pays too much attention to Ahmadinejad," said a political scientist who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. "He is not that consequential."

That is not to say that Ahmadinejad is insignificant. He controls the mechanics of civil government, much the way a prime minister does in a state like Egypt, where the real power rests with the president. He manages the budget and has put like-minded people in positions around the country, from provincial governors to prosecutors. His base of support is the Basiji militia and elements of the Revolutionary Guards.

But Ahmadinejad has not shown the same political acumen at home as he has in riling the West. Two of his ministers have quit, criticizing his stewardship. The head of the central bank resigned. The chief judge criticized him for his management of the government. His promise to root out corruption and redistribute the nation's oil wealth has run up against entrenched interests.

Even a small bloc of members of Parliament that were once aligned with him have largely given up, dissolving a small caucus they had formed in his support, officials said.

Rather than focusing so much attention on the president, the West needs to learn that in Iran, what matters is ideology - Islamic revolutionary ideology, according to politicians and political analysts here. Nearly 30 years after the shah fell in a popular rebellion, Iran's supreme leader also holds the title of "Guardian of the Revolution." Ahmadinejad's power stems not from his office per se, but from the refusal of his patron, Khamenei, and some hard-line leaders to move beyond Iran's revolutionary identity, which makes full relations with the West impossible.

There are plenty of conservatives and hard-liners who take a more pragmatic view, wanting to retain "revolutionary values" while integrating Iran with the world, at least economically. But they are not driving the agenda these days, and while that could change it will not be the president who makes the call.

"Iran has never been interested in reaching an accommodation with the United States," the political scientist said. "It cannot reach an accommodation as long as it retains the current structure."

There is another important factor that restricts Ahmadinejad's hand: While ideology defines the state, the revolution has allowed a particular class to grow wealthy and powerful.

When Ahmadinejad was elected, it appeared that hard-liners had a monopoly on all the levers of power. But today it is clear that Ahmadinejad is not a hard-liner, not in the traditional sense. His talk of economic justice and a redistribution of wealth, for example, ran into a wall of existing vested interests, including powerful clergy and military leaders...more
//www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/23/asia/iran.5...

YeKhanum......

You are, of course, entitled to your opinions of me, despite the fact that you know nothing of me or my life. You may call it childish, you may call it emotional, or whatever you choose.

I disagree with your opinion regarding trivialization, as I hardly think Iran, Iranians, or the country's problems and issues to be trivial. Ahmadinejad, I would say is somewhat trivial, as he is in many respects merely a mouthpiece for the real powers in Tehran. After all, it was the ruling clerics who decided in the first place who was eligible to run as a presidential candidate and who was not, essentially manipulating what is supposed to be an open and transparent electoral process. Now while the individual himself can be trivialized, the series of events that placed him there cannot be.

You have a point concerning my oversimplification of matters. Again, we don't know each other or our respective backrounds and personal histories, but that's of little consequence here. However, it would be safe to say that all of us have at one time or another had a moment of reflection, where we thought about "the good old days", or we remember "the time when life was much simpler".

We, as a society, are guilty of ruining that simplicity. As we have evolved industrially, economically and socially, we have made it common and accepted practice to rationalize, over rationalize, then evaluate and audit and then re-evaluate and re-audit the rationale of the original rationalization. In other words, complicate matters unnecessarily. We justify what cannot be justified. We explain away what is obvious. We make excuses for the inexcusable. We feel pity for our enemies yet we have contempt for thise who are not our enemies. Behaviors that were unacceptable not too long ago are now common everyday occurrences, and socially acceptable practices. Where there was a clear and distinct picture of what was right and what was wrong, now stands a collage of gray areas, political correctness (I hate that term) and an array of arguments that begin with, "Yeah, I know, but..."

There used to be a time where we knew where we stood. There was a time where right was right and wrong was wrong. There used to be a time that you could walk anywhere with your head held high and when asked, say "I am from Iran". This clown who is in New York right now, regardless of his true position, or true power or sphere of actual influence, is an embarrassment of the highest order to everything I was raised to believe in. I was raised to be proud of being an Iranian. This person is not worthy of even a shred of my respect. My respect is a highly valuable commodity that I refuse to waste on the likes of someone that has made a mockery of our homeland. Calling him names or making fun of his looks is about all some of us can do to keep from screaming over the destruction and death they are all responsible for. How many school age children were killed by the IRI sweeping for land mines? How many children have been executed? How far into the dark ages has Iran been taken? These people kill juveniles without even blinking and you call me juvenile taking issue with my calling him a monkey?

This is president who said

This is president who said that a 16-year old girl has discovered nuclear energy by putting together stuff in her kitchend and uses nuclear energy in her own kitchen....He also takes the credit for stem-cell research, which is an old technology and the sheeple gobble it up.

Please watch this and weep:

//youtube.com/watch?v=9cIrymEv8xI

Kaveh Nouraee: Outstanding.

Kaveh Nouraee: Outstanding. Those who are running the Medieval republic come from criminal backgrounds; from the lowest slums and poorest gutters of the society; they were the hoodlums and thugs of their neighborhoods and now they have become high ranking officials. There is no doubt that these incompetent thugs are running the country into the ground and those who are benefitting from this government are all quite because their livelihood depends upon it. They could care less about Iran and its future as long as they can line up their pockets and travel to Dubai and do their debauchery and shopping for their Sigheh and mistresses over there.

@Yekhanum

Thank you Yekhanum. Job well done!!!

Lets investigate.....

President Ahmadinejad said in his speech:
[ we must allow researchers, scholars, they investigate into everything, every phenomenon -- God, universe, human beings, history and civilization. Why should we stop that?
There is nothing known as absolute.]
Great Mr. president..
Let's start at home and investigate The Source of Poverty, Injustist, and Corruption.....
You never know what you're gonna find out!!!

Kaveh The problem with using

Kaveh
The problem with using words such as monkey or ugly is that it is childish. Sure, you can express you anger or opinion. But those words are based on emotion. For example, if I didn't like your opinion and called you a moron, snake, khak bar sar, zesht, antar...bla bla...guess who would look like an idiot? me. So, even though you can use all sorts of words to express your feelings toward ahmadinejad, in order to be take seriously and not at the same lever as haji agha, I would caution you against being juvenile. Also, being emotional keeps you from being a good judge. You make personal attacks against him and you trivialize and oversimplify the problems iran has. Ahmadinejad, although a criminal, is only the tip of it. Call him a monkey and applaud while he is made fun of in the media! But! That takes eyes away from a lot of other important issues.

Kaveh The problem with using

Kaveh
The problem with using words such as monkey or ugly is that it is childish. Sure, you can express you anger or opinion. But those words are based on emotion. For example, if I didn't like your opinion and called you a moron, snake, khak bar sar, zesht, antar...bla bla...guess who would look like an idiot? me. So, even though you can use all sorts of words to express your feelings toward ahmadinejad, in order to be take seriously and not at the same lever as haji agha, I would caution you against being juvenile. Also, being emotional keeps you from being a good judge. You make personal attacks against him and you trivialize and oversimplify the problems iran has. Ahmadinejad, although a criminal, is only the tip of it. Call him a monkey and applaud while he is made fun of in the media! But! That takes eyes away from a lot of other important issues.

good job

You should have taken close up picture of the people woh attended this meeting. We need that later.

He Is Who He Is And What He Is

Some of you who object to personal attacks against this idiot, well, you are entitled to your feelings, even if you feel remotely sorry for that miserable organism.

I agree, we are indeed our own worst enemy. Look at our history and our culture, and look at what we have to show for it. Backward ideology, a superiority complex built upon a foundation of sheer fantasy, a repressed society with no freedom, human rights abuses, corruption on a scale so grand that we haven't even scratched the surface, the financing of organizations whose sole purpose is inflicting bloodshed, death, and destruction, and on and on and on.

So what if we call him a monkey? He looks like one. So what if we make fun of his looks? He is hideous. So what if words used to describe this moron come from the vocabulary of a prison yard? Iran is in prison. A prison constructed by consortium of criminals and degenerates masquerading as scholars and clerics, and the sheep who bought their lies from beginning to end.

Also, what a missed

Also, what a missed opportunity to ask him reaaaaaaaaaaaallly tough questions and grill him so he cannot get away with stupid answers. Instead of insulting him, I would've preferred more questions about homosexuality. When this idiot says there is no homosexuals in iran, I would've liked this subject continued. Ask him How can there possibly be no homosexuals? They should've asked him to back up his stupid remark. When he talked about women, they should've grilllllled him about stonning and other issues. Why insult him??? Treat him with respect and let him crumble on his own.

Before I get attacked let me

Before I get attacked let me clarigy that Ahmadinejad is part of a blood thirsty regime that is repsonsible for death, injustics, poverty...in Iran. I do not support the IRI.

However!!!!! He is the head of a sovereign nation. Even though most of us don't like the IRI, fact is, this guy is the President of a soverign nation. The reception he recieves should be no different than any other head of state. If the public sees him as a dictator, which I do, then he should not be allowed entry to the US and not be given permission to address a university.

The university chancellor is an ass. Imagine Busch, who most IRI lovers hate, was to visit Tehran university. He would be greeted with respect. When time comes for questions, instead of insults, legitimate questions would be asked. In fact, I read that the chancellors of seven Iranian universities wrote a letter to this Columbia idiot and invited him to Iran. Apparently, very legitimate questions were asked of him in this letter about the iraq war.

Sure, in a crowed, hezbolahis chant death to america, but I bet if some big shot american went to give a speech, he wouldn't be insulted the way ahmadinejad was insulted.

Do not forget, that the more insults Ahmadinejad recieves, the more powerful he gets among those who accept him and like him.

Also, even without insults such as "petty and cruel dictator", Ahmadinejad humilates himself with stupid, really stupid rants about homosexuals.

@ Ashena

Thank you Ashena, those are very valid points. We accomplish nothing by concentrating on Ahmadinejad's hairstyle, or personal hygiene. We should try to understand what he is saying, why he is saying the things he is saying, what he's doing...(You get the point).

Sure, he's done many things that do not deserve approval, but that has little to do with his hair style. Besides, is he the one making the decisions? It seems somewhat unlikely, especially being that he was a little known Mayor who suddenly won the election, and became the President of Iran, to everyone's surprise. How could he pull off such a trick, when he was a novice compared to all the other Political veterans in the Majlis?

His university rank has little to do with his intelligence. University ranks have little to do with intelligence anyways. Einstein was not a great student, neither was Bill Gates, nor many of the greatest thinkers in history.

P.S. I am not implying that Ahmadinejad is a genious.

ahmadinejad's university

ahmadinejad's university rank was 132nd. unless your rank is less than that then please don't make a comment on his intelect. and as far as his looks, no one really is in control of his looks. i am not an ahmadinejad supporter but give me a break, some of you guys are just haters. iran's government is not good, but iranian people are so much worst then their bad government. there are plenty of examples here at this forum. when the president of columbia univ. invites someone and then insults them, that tells you alot. does't matter who this person is. ahmadinejad doesn't represent me, but he represents so many people in iran, he is the presidenat no matter what. if he is insulted, the people that he represents are insulted too. look what happenes when some one insults Bush in europe, american's get upset even if they don't like Bush. i have no respect for most of the iranians, even this government is more than what you really deserve.

Our Own Worst Enemy?

Sometimes, I think, we are our own worst enemies. Lack of class, manner, intelligent command and/or discussion..........!!!
Let's take responsibility for our short coming.
Let's challenge the man but don't insult him.
Let's talked/educated ourself about his belief and his way of thinking in many aspects of... Not his clothes, hair cut style....
Let's have class, manner, dignity, with intellectual abilities to engaged ourself in productive discussions...
Let's Not doing it to ourselves again!
That's all I have to say about that..........

RE: Too Much Users not verified

>Too Much Users not verified, how about that ? Who are >they ? Islamic spies in U.S.A and Europe ?

yea, what a smart intelligent comment!
those who are not verified, are spies!
So, in the process of verifying a user, JJ will
tell who's spy and who is not, wow.
RedWine, you are amazing.
Now I am so scared to be verified!
Or maybe it was just an iranian pose saying "ooh look at me, I am verified you are not, I am better than you, you are not verified?! piff piff go away".
Looking forward to your future comments, without you world would have been so boring.

Ahamdi Nejad is a Joke

He is a real funny. He live totally in denial. When the president of the university called him un-educated, it made so much sence. He is nothing but an Ignorant and Dalghak. I just againt felt hurt when some one like this dalghak must be repersentive of people of Iran. That is real sad. He has no logic and there is no way you can talk to him. Az ghadem goftan: Javabe Ablhan khamoshest!!!!
PB

To: SERA Agreed. How about

To: SERA

Agreed. How about investigating mass graves in Iran and countless other murders, kidnapping, torture? How about investigating Zahara Kazemi's murder? How investigating his own involvement in assassination of Kuridsh-Iranian leader in Europe? How about investiagting hordes of other criminals in high ranking positions in Iran?

Instead of investigating Holocaust why not....?

I wish somebody would ask Ahmadinejad, who is so fond of investigations and research, to initiate an investigation about all the mass executions that happened in Iran in 1360 and 1367-68. This is his area of responsibility at home compared to Holocaust at Europ, and this is quite recent compared to 60 something years ago! if Palestinians are still suffering, and they are and no one denies it, so are parents of those innocents who got executed, in some cases for nothing. Even some of them had spent their time and were due to be released shortly. I hope he or someone would have guts and the conscience to initiate such investigation.

Too Much Users not verified

Too Much Users not verified, how about that ? Who are they ? Islamic spies in U.S.A and Europe ?

enter..........we brought........

WE did not. the ones who brought the 30 Million fanatic Mullahs on power and rescuded Iran,they all are since long in BEHESHTE SAHRA. Nobody else has the right to claim he was the one who brought........and so on. The thirty million fanatic Mulahs count now: 70 MILLION. Dont worrs, be happy.

Anonymous 34343434 (aka AF) likes to give Reza P.

BJ with her big mouth.

Anonymous34343434 = Fariba Amini

She likes big and long ones.

THERE ARE NO GAYS IN IRAN :-)

hey boys and girls..stop moaning...did u see what anatrinejad said??
there are no homos in iran!!! why? because they killed them or still killing them??

please..people..you guys fighting over what?? iran??
forgetabout it.

Nourani: - Who the heck is

Nourani:

- Who the heck is Fariba Amini? Is that supposed to be me? I don't care, call me whatever name you want.
- We are all irrelevant here, this is what makes it fun to pick on you, you treat this as a phd discourse.
= terminally ignorant individual, you are tragically incapable of formulating any opinions that are based solely upon fact
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL so so funny where do u come up with this chandelier boy?