China and its need for oil

alimostofi
by alimostofi
03-Mar-2008
 

China also provides conventional weapons that could threaten U.S. military forces securing the Persian Gulf. Of particular concern are China's sales to Iran of anti-ship cruise missiles, which pose a threat to oil tanker traffic and American naval vessels operating there. This arms trafficking presents an increasing threat to U.S. global security interests, particularly in the Middle East and Asia.

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Please look at this rather long but excellent video, on the whole China growth vs Energy needs. To me, it is the Chinese blind eye to Human Rights that bothers me. They openly state that they do not make judgements. So why are they on the UN security council. That is supposed to be some moral forum is it not. China has philosopher that set the best examples in human history, and yet they act like this. Where are you Laozi?

Without the Seyyeds huge oil exports to China, and without the slaves that the Chinese give to the foreign companies, such as Wal-Mart in China, you would not be able to enjoy your easy life in the west. For China read US proxy. Don't buy stuff made there. You help the Seyyeds in Iran and the Chinese radicals who hate the US.

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Kaveh Nouraee

Ali....

by Kaveh Nouraee on Tue Mar 04, 2008 02:36 PM PST

For someone who generally has a lot to say, your non-response is surprising, not to mention extremely vague.

No one ever said we have to agree, as that would be quite boring, and life would become stagnant.

It's a shame that you cannot see that your use of the title Seyed is improper and offensive, and more so that you question whether or not anyone is Iranian.

Good Thoughts-Good Words-Good Deeds.......remember?

 


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alimostofi

Kaveh: Can't really agree

by alimostofi on Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:32 PM PST

Kaveh: Can't really agree with much of what you say I'm afraid. 

 

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Kaveh Nouraee

Ali....Your reason makes no sense.

by Kaveh Nouraee on Tue Mar 04, 2008 09:43 AM PST

First of all, none of these criminals in the IRI are true Seyeds. They can claim to be until they are blue, much the same way as some Iranians insist that they are Italian, depending on the latest news reports concerning Iran.

You say that one cannot be a Seyed and a true Iranian at the same time. I take it that you base your conclusion on the fact that it's a Moslem (read: Arabic) title. You, sir, have an Arabic first name, do you not? What conclusions can be drawn from that concerning your true lineaage? What about Jewish people, or Baha'is? Are they not true Iranians? True Iranians can only be those who are Zoroastrian, based upon what you stated.

My issue with your labels is that you are perpetuating negative stereotypes of what is supposed to be a positive thing, which is faith in God. You are providing fodder for the criminal element in Tehran, at the expense of those who have no part in the criminal activity that occurs daily.

By calling these degenerates Seyeds, you are criminalizing the Moslem faith. We all know that it is these people who have committed and continue to commit these criminal acts, and not the religion.

As far as your last paragraph, the Chinese ARE that important. At 20% of the world's total population, everything they do must be taken seriously. Present-day China is a homogenous society where freedom is non-existent. From birth, these people are raised and programmed to obey the commands of their masters in Beijing. They have little if any regard for the rest of the world. It would be wise not to downplay their importance.


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programmer craig

Kaveh

by programmer craig on Mon Mar 03, 2008 03:48 PM PST

The Japanese stuff really WAS junk, back in the 1970s. Probably before that, too, but I'm not old enough to recall :)

That changed at some point around ~1980, and Japanese automobiles and electronics have been top-notch, ever since.

The South Koreans do a decent job. And even the Taiwanese. I agree with you about China, though. It's unlikely China will ever care much about quality. Their population is just too large. They can't make a go of it if they try to compete at the high end - they need to be involved in mass production of commodity items to emply any substantial number of their citizens. Also, the competition is quite stiff in high end "niche" type markets.

 


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alimostofi

Bosbos: My Blackberry is made in

by alimostofi on Mon Mar 03, 2008 03:32 PM PST

My Blackberry is made in Hungary. 

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alimostofi

Kaveh, I have good reasons

by alimostofi on Mon Mar 03, 2008 03:30 PM PST

Kaveh, I have good reasons for calling the Seyyeds, and I have never doubted it. You can't be a true Iranian and a Seyyed.

The Chinese are not that important. It is the fact that the US companies get prisoners and Iranian energy in China and the US does nothing.

Ali Mostofi

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Kaveh Nouraee

Bosbos...

by Kaveh Nouraee on Mon Mar 03, 2008 01:14 PM PST

You are right. They are everywhere. That's what makes it so difficult.


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Now buying anything from China?

by bosbos (not verified) on Mon Mar 03, 2008 01:12 PM PST

Are you kidding. What is out there that is NOT made in China?!


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Kaveh Nouraee

Ali....

by Kaveh Nouraee on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:17 PM PST

Enough with the Seyed labels, please. These criminals in the IRI are as Seyed as the Chinese.

The title is one of honor and should be treated as such, whether you like the IRI or Islam or not. And everyone knows I hate the IRI. But it doesn't represent Islam, and neither do these criminals you call seyeds.

As far as the Chinese, I agree. Whenever possible, I avoid buying Chinese made products. But it has nothing to do with the IRI and oil. It has to do with the fact that what they produce is cheap, substandard junk that isn't worth a dime, even if the sales price is ten cents. Unfortunately, these pieces of junk are everywhere, even in higher-end retail outlets. It's increasingly difficult to avoid them. The same goes for Korean products as well.

There used to be the same sentiment about Japanese products. "Made In Japan" was synonymous with inferior quality, when in fact the exact opposite is true. The difference is in the mindset. The Japanese take great pride in their work and productivity, which is why they became such an economic superpower not long after World War II.

You will never see this in China or Korea, two countries that have nothing but utter contempt for the West.


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