One of the few arenas, where we Iranians have shown our dignity, even though Ayatollahs have been misrepresenting us, has been in the Olympics. Until now.
I happen to notice that an Iranian had just won a Silver Medal at the London 2012 Paraolympics. I was so chuffed that I got my phone out and took a clip.
Watch "Iranian Paraolympian does not shake Duchess hands." on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPI-quyCHKA&featur...
In fact I wanted to edit it, so that only the part for the Iranian receiving the Silver Medal would show. But then I found out, that something very odd had happened.
Have a look. You will see that the Chinese person bows and shakes the Duchess of Kent's hand. Then we wait until the Silver Medal is brought out. At one point you will see the Iranian put his hands behind him.
The Duchess then gets the Silver medal and goes forward to put it on the Iranian athlete's head. She then puts her hand forward. The Iranian bows and put his hands across his chest, almost apologising that he cannot shake her hand.
It is an embarrassment. He was obviously under strict orders. And once again politics has entered the Olympics.
As an Iranian Brit I would like to apologise to all British people for this situation. One day we will sort out this awful regime non violently and never be different to accepted world behaviour.
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Etiquette
by alimostofi on Wed Sep 05, 2012 05:58 AM PDTThere is a clear difference between those of us here at Iranian.com who understand protocol and etiquette, and those that don't. I am polite and try to write well.
Quite honesty, just because your view on life is what it is, it does not mean that the whole world needs to accomodate you. And it applies to both men and women.
Moslem women insult men, by having to cover themselves, which shouts the following message, "I am covering my face because all men are perverts".
And then you have the Moslem men, doing what this athlete did, which send a bad message as well.
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.......no obsession,...!
by Pars4ever on Wed Sep 05, 2012 04:00 AM PDTDear Dr. Mohandes,
Not sure why you get the impression that trying to read and write a foreign language correctly is a 'sick obsession'..??.....and should be viewed as 'odd' as only British folks care?......Of course it is not a big issue in the States as even most President's seem to have trouble with expressing themselves in english let alone composing correct and coherent english (Google Bush for this). I suppose I therefore should not expect more from you folks with or without the Dr title,...as you might say: chill out dude, its cool!
When all else fails
by Dr. Mohandes on Wed Sep 05, 2012 02:32 AM PDTImaginations run wild and in comes all the accusations and finger pointings. There are pro-israelis everywhere, even inside the bathroom walls of all the houses in USA!
Pasrs4ever
quite interesting that folks back in the states do not take issue with the way in which they use language to speak and communicate with one another, and are not so fussy about it, but some brithish folks seem to have such a sick obsession with that. quite odd ha?
Age of Aquarius
by alimostofi on Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:44 AM PDTTapesh's article on the same subject inspired me to write a comment there. Here is a copy.
All humans are equal, and just because your gender is different, that does not allow you to have a different greeting protocol. Many cults are based dividing humans, by making fundamental changes to basic human greeting protocols. I don't use a religious greeting ever. I say dorood and bedrood. Moslems bring religion into it.
But look at how modern social networking has completely changed all that, and will continue to bring people together. It is the Age of Aquarius! In this new Age the fundamental force is a common network amongst all. Aquarius is Bahman which is Vohuman in Zend Avesta. If you read my Astrology updates you will know what the meanings are.
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...on the subject of spelling.......
by Pars4ever on Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:25 PM PDT.....as another proud Iranian-Brit (quoting) who enjoys following this website, i must admit to being left amazed at times by the english used......not a big deal i guess but after all these years studying/working abroad??.....I will not dare to open that old can of worms on american-english being mostly at fault here, best leave it at that.
On this occasion, I thought there was a delicious irony in reading the first post......'spelled Paralympics'.......i would suggest 'spelt'.
Apologies for the diversion from the main topic, a great achievement by a fellow Iranian overshadowed by religious/political instructions. Good post by alimostofi.
Don't even bother responding to those people
by MaryamJoon on Tue Sep 04, 2012 02:29 PM PDT... they are pro-Israel war and sanctions and just want to "report" or "deport" you.
Multiple User IDs issue
by Frashogar on Tue Sep 04, 2012 02:17 PM PDTThe folks on this site seem to be obsessed with multiple User IDs. I take it this has been a problem here. I only have one ID on this website since you want to know.
But speaking of curiosity, you know what they say about curiosity and the cat ;O)
Disrespectful Moslem men
by alimostofi on Tue Sep 04, 2012 02:10 PM PDTDK: Just a quick read at this wiki article, shows how disrespectful Moslem men have been and now are to women.
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Iran
Secularity did try to correct this behaviour but the Ayatollahs have brought all that vulgarity back.
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Frashogar
by Raoul1955 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 02:08 PM PDTCurious that you are responding. Are you also using the other user ID as well? Just curious. LOL
Raoul1955
by Frashogar on Tue Sep 04, 2012 02:06 PM PDTThere is more curiosity about your user ID, not to mention your actual geographic location, than Maryam's. Does it bother you that Maryam is active here full time? Why?
Maryam
by Raoul1955 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 01:58 PM PDTJust being curious: What was your previous user ID on this site.
Your current user ID has been registered for almost one week and you seem to be active here full time. :-)
cheers
En Effet Ali Motofi Jan ... Melli Mazhabeeyan Deegeh ... ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Sep 04, 2012 02:06 PM PDTChristopher Hitchens Slams deemed "Iranian" Women's Comments on Islam & Freedom under IRI
Related:
A new music video of Iranian TV with nationalistic lyric recorded in Persepolis
Who?
by MaryamJoon on Tue Sep 04, 2012 01:39 PM PDTWhat qualities make a "genuine" Iranian in your opinion?
A moral standard
by alimostofi on Tue Sep 04, 2012 01:37 PM PDTDK: Yes the catalogue of disrespect is endless. But the problem is that the world takes them as genuine Iranians.
We do not have a proper body of Iranians, who would be regarded by all, as the moral standard for Iran. And ultimately that is our problem.
Right now there are those who particiated in the Olympics under the Olympic flag because they were refugees. We should have done the same for Iran. People should have been sponsored by the diaspora.
There is so much that has not been done. But we can still do it for future venues.
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Why are you worried about France's 1st lady?
by MaryamJoon on Tue Sep 04, 2012 01:33 PM PDT... it has nothing to do with Iran.
And good riddance to that greedy little elf Nicholas Sarkozy that brought so much misery on the French that they replaced him.
As a woman I can tell you that no woman like Carla Brunie would be involved with someone like Sarkozy without money changing hands.
Didn't IRI call France's First Lady Carla Bruni a Whore ?
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Sep 04, 2012 01:24 PM PDTMrs Bruni-Sarkozy, the wife of Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, was attacked after she signed a petition calling for the release of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, who is accused of cheating on her husband and then helping to kill him.
Kayhan, an Iranian newspaper, which is under control of the government, called Mrs Bruni-Sarkozy and Isabelle Adjani, the French actress who is campaigning for Ashtina’s release, “prostitutes” in an editorial, while Iranian state television accused the former supermodel of “immorality”.
In an open letter to Miss Ashtiani last week, Mrs Bruni-Sarkozy wrote: “Why shed your blood and deprive your children of their mother? Because you have lived, because you have loved, because you’re a woman, and because you’re an Iranian? Everything within me refuses to accept this”.Related:
BECAUSE SHE TOO HAS A VOICE: Colin Firth Speaks Up For Sakineh M. Ashtiani
Moral Audit of British Empire
by alimostofi on Tue Sep 04, 2012 01:08 PM PDTC: please read this:
//www.historytoday.com/piers-brendon/moral-au...
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Ok if it is because of his beleifs
by choghok on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:47 AM PDTI guess most of Iranians do not mind shake hands with a woman. If it is his own will I do not see any wrong.
And apologizing for not shaking hand some says here? I have never heard Brits apologizing for their atrocities during colonial period, asking for forgiveness for not shaking hands is pretty much absurd in circumstance.
What would you
by Raoul1955 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 09:49 AM PDTExpect from a muslim?
hah!
by Fesenjoon2 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 09:35 AM PDTwhere he learned it from:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bT0R0AYI-4Y/R-QwkWio2VI/AAAAAAAACr8/PB8CSSPqSGI/s600/ahmadinejad+%289%29.jpg
I wouldn't shake her hand,
by keyvanj on Tue Sep 04, 2012 08:54 AM PDTI wouldn't shake her hand, either. Might catch something knowing what they get up to.
You'd think they'd know a thing or two about Islam anyway judging by the amount of Arabs and African Muslim dictator types that were at her friggin wedding..
In any event, I wouldn't wish any future govt of Iran to bow down or shake the hand of these crooks.
The rude one is you who looks for a chance to degrade a man
by MaryamJoon on Tue Sep 04, 2012 08:30 AM PDT... at the time of his accomplishment and on the basis of his faith.
Why are you named "Ali"? I bet i can guess.
Be polite
by alimostofi on Tue Sep 04, 2012 08:24 AM PDTThanks for that. I stand corrected. In fact I had an inkling all day on that but it just did not click.
Now there are more polite ways of conveying your thoughts my dear. Please don't be rude.
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It is spelled "Paralympics" ... anyone graduating from Princeton
by MaryamJoon on Tue Sep 04, 2012 07:59 AM PDT... on merit; can reasonably be expected to know that.
Let him worry about his hand and who he shares it with.
And others can focus on spelling.
Fair?
Shaking hands is optional ... spelling usually is not.