Ali Mostofi - Iranian Astrologer and Current Affairs Commentator.

Yolanda

You misunderstand me. I don't have a problem with Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize. I have a problem with the Europeans for awarding it to people who don't seem to have done anything to deserve it. Didn't they award it to a hatemongering bigot last year? Or was that the year before? What the hell was that all about? (rhetorical question)

Do you have a better person in mind?.....well, there always will be next year.

Nope, not off the top of my head. I don't. I don't have a very high opinion of humanity these days. I would suggest that when they can't think of anyone worthy of receiving an award, they don't give an award that year. There are some years where I think they should not give out academy awards too, because there weren't any movies good enough to merit an academy award that year. I'm weird that way, I guess. I don't think awards for excellence should ever go to people who aren't excellent in that category. Otherwise it's just a "best of the bad" competition.

Please let me know if I should take down
my post. I am flexible.

Of course I don't think you should take it down. You are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine :)

PS to Ostaad - I think everyone here knows what you are all about and what your agenda is. Please don't talk at me anymore. I have nothing to say to you, which is why I haven't addressed anything to you. Go talk to Obama. He talks to everyone, no matter what their character is like. Nice avatar by the way. Very fitting. 

What if Nobel prize in literature was given to encourage writers

For Nobel peace prize, it is said that sometimes it is given to encourage one's work for peace.  If they gave out Nobel prize in literature to me, I promise I will be really encouraged to write more poetry.  Just a thought.

ex programmer, a lot of people including Obama were...

"taken aback" when they heard the news simply becasue it was unexpected. That does not take anything away from the fact that the world and the majority of Americans, who voted for him, welcome Obama's winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

There is a tiny right wing republican Taliban-types fringe in the US who are nashing their teeth, jumping up and down and denigrating him out of pure spite, nothing else. The Fox News imbued fringe, you seem to be quite at home with them, wants him and the US to fail just to prove their narrow-minded and spiteful point of view. The good news is the world does not pay any attention to what this fringe is all about because the US is a world power and not a provincial two-bit state the kind that you and the other extremist fringe want it to be. 

Sorry pal, the US that you and the insignificant extremist fringe are dreaming about simply does not exist and it shouldn't anyway. The US and the world have move on and left the fringe, and you, behind. 

I am sorry

I am sorry, Craig, that you feel uncomfortable that Obama won the Nobel Prize. Do you have a better person in mind?.....well, there always will be next year.

   I am sorry that I don't plan to debate anyone 'cause I don't have the knowledge........... My post is not that important and is definitely not indispensable. Please let me know if I should take down my post. I am flexible.

thanks,

Best wishes always!

yolanda

Yolanda

So basically, the Europeans decided to reward Obama for adopting a political stance that they approve of. Is that an appropriate criteria for selection for this type of award? Maybe they should change the name of it to "Euro-Weenie of the Year Prize", no? Because from what I've seen on the internet today the western europeans are about the only ones who aren't a bit taken aback by Obama's win. Even Obama seems taken aback by it.

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I read this article and also recommended to IC

//news.aol.com/article/obamas-nobel-win-called-vote-of/712222

Here is the excerpt:

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Stein Tønnesson of the International Peace Research Institute in Oslo noted.........The president's resume of accomplishments may be short, but this year's prize is meant to "encourage his further work for peace" and finish initiatives he started. Among them: a "return to respect for civic and human rights," rapprochement with the Muslim world, Iran and North Korea and withdrawing troops from Iraq. "Then a big question is if he can find a way to be peaceful also with relation to Afghanistan."

Obama was chosen over 204 other nominees, including 33 organizations, the highest number ever. He didn't help end a Cold War like Mikhail Gorbachev. He didn't topple apartheid like Nelson Mandela. Nor did he launch a "green revolution" in agriculture that saved millions from famine like American plant scientist Norman Borlaug, who died last month.

thanks,

Obama has said himself that...

he doesn't feel he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, but he accepts it on behalf of the American people.

I think he is quite gracious in this regard, and let me remind everyone that his biggest achievement has been changing the US policy trajectory from war to no-war, which does not necessarily mean peace but lack of military aggression on all parties involved.

A couple of days ago we were celebrating an Iranian who has made huge contribution in the field of Fuzzy Logic. I think Obama's winning the Nobel Peace Price must be analyzed and dealt with by means of political Fuzzy Logic in order to understand its causes and effects.  Therefore instead of asking "what has he done?", which is his domestic enemies' favorite way of bashing him and the US's success in foreign policy, we should ask, "what has he brought to the table?".  The answer is he has enabled the US to reclaim its rightful place as a superpower that other nations can live with and above all RESPECT. That alone is by far his biggest achievement. Repairing the damage to the US position of leadership caused by the Republican administration led by that goat herder from Texas, GW, will be cited in the annals of history as the main reason for Obama's winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

Congratulations President Obama, and congratulations the American people myself included.

Balancing the books

This prize being awarded to Obama is a stroke of genius. He is already under a lot of pressure by AIPAC to take a very aggressive stance towards Iran and with this, his hand to make peace is very much strengthened.

The debatable issue for me is if the ruling elite in Iran deserve to be treated in a non aggressive manner given the events of the past 4 months. 

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تحلیلگران سیاسی روسی در شبکه Russia Today اهدا جایزهٔ صلح نوبل را به اوباما از میان ۲۰۴ کاندیدای دیگر کاری بسیار عجولانه، ناپخته و حتی مضحک از طرف کمیتهٔ نوبل دانستند مهمترین دلیل آنها اینست که تا امروز تنها حدود ۹ ماه است که اوباما به سمت ریاست جمهوری رسیده و این زمان کافی‌ برای ارزیابی عملکرد واقعی‌ او نبوده است تا کنون تنها کلمات زیبا را شنیدیم و هیچ اقدام موثر در عرصهٔ سیاست و امنیت بین الملل نداشته است هنوز جنگها و درگیریهای خونین و جدی در افغانستان و عراق داریم.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpheXxu9vM0

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آهای استاد (شک نیست که تنها خودت اسم استاد بر خودت نهادی که عجب مرد هنرمردی!) ... کجایت سوخته که این چنین دهاتی وار انگلیسی بلغور میکنی‌ ؟

فضول تو هستی‌ که حقوق بگیر مال حرام ریا کاران هستی‌ !

خمینی عجب تخمی بر جا نهاد ! کار شما و امثال شما تمام است... اندکی‌ صبر داشته باشید که به زودی هیزم را شما به جهنم خواهید برد که الحق اسمتان فضول است و وطن فروش.

بسوزید و بسوزید که دیگر ایران دشمنانش را شناخته و مردمانش آماده در صحنه !

اوباما عروسکی بیش نیست !

مرگ بر جمهوری اسلامی و نوکرنش .

Red wine [gone sour],

You should only concern yourself with your own wife's taste in clothing, and what she wears (assuming you have one, or she still lets you in the house). 

Please leave other people's wives taste in clothing alone because it is none of your friggin beeswax.

Regarding Bill Clinton, he owned up to what he'd done, and apparently Hillary was OK with it (after closing the White House garage door on his balls for a dozen times, I'm sure). So tora cheh sananah?

Dude, heez baazi dar nayaar, and fozouli moghouf.

Nobody asks why didn't the Idiot from Texas or the Jerk form

Britain win?

Obama's opposition:

Bitching about everything and everybody, that's what they are all about. It's their mission on this earth. "Peef Peef they all smell" is their attitude. A kind of severe inferiority complex turned outward, towards others who don't think like them or look like them. 

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کاپیتان جان از کار انجام نشده...از عاقبت آن ترسم که آخر ایرانی‌ بی‌ تفاوت شود و راضی‌ به حکومت آخوند شود. وگرنه اباما هیچ کاره است و منتر قضیه !

باید متحد شد و جنگید که اینها توبره توبر خاک پاک ایرانی را به چین و روسیه و فلسطین ارزانی‌ داشتند !

مرگ بر جمهوری اسلامی و نوکرانش.

Agho Red Wine

Feel your frustration dude.

-YT 

alimostofi

Apologies for getting your name wrong... twice! I do that to be a smartass sometimes, but in this case it was entirely unintentional :)

 تصميم مضحك

 تصميم مضحك كميته نوبل در اهدا جايزه صلح به اوباما، باعث استهزا اين جايزه شده است

//www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6867711.ece

من از مفصل اين قصه مجملي گفتم / تو خود بخوان حديت مفصل از اين مجمل

Redwine aziz

FoxNews is not Fair and it sure ain't balanced.

IRANdokht

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Hmmm ...

//twitpic.com/kvhi4/full

Hey Ex and Anon You are both

Hey Ex and Anon

You are both saying what I am saying. This Obama is suffering exactly what most Pres do eight months after election in a bad economic situation. GWB started the war and the MIC kickstarted the economy. Now he can't instigate another 9/11, so he has to do it the respectable way.

Watch him bend over backwards knowing too well that the fanatics will say no. All that "loose bazi" will force him to use the gun. And when he starts to use his gun, you are going to see one arrogant angry man you never believed. This man has another side to him. Mark my words.

Ali Mostofi

//www.alimostofi.com

alimostafa

In the eyes of Americans, Obama is now Saint Obama.

Whcih polls are you reading!? :p

There seems to be a fundamental disconnect between what the media (minus Fox News) is reporting re: Obama and what opinion polls are saying about Obama. I don't know about you, but I'm going with the polls. If the polls were favorable towards Obama you can bet your last dollar that the mainstream media would be touting that fact, rather than trying to pretend the polls don't matter.

Anonymouse

s I said before his "accomplishment" is nothing but he has moved the cause of peace by 10 fold.

I usually respect your opinions but I'd like to see you back that one up because from where I'm sitting it looks like peace in any conflict involving the US is no closer today than it was when Bush was in office. In fact the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan has deteriorated quite a bit in the last 6 months. And I read quite a few Arab blogs and I've yet to see any Arab make a claim that Obama has changed the status quo for the better in the Arab world. Should I go on? How are US/Russia relations looking these days? Everything is OK? Even the Japanese, one of our staunchest allies, have begun distancing themsleves from US policy... this year. For the first time since World War II.

So, I guess my questions is, what is the meaning of the word "peace"? And thank you alimostafa for establishing what the word "cause" means :)

Ex programmer In the eyes of

Ex programmer

In the eyes of Americans, Obama is now Saint Obama. He is more than a US President. Why did the Nobel committee think it was necessary for elevate him? Is it to protect him? And if it is to protect him, is it from those who could force him to make violent non peaceful choices in the future?

Ali Mostofi

//www.alimostofi.com

DK

THIS WAS A POISONED GIFT !

I think you are right. The timing on this was very bad. Obama is already losing credibility here in teh US precisely because he doesn't seem to be actually getting anything accomplished, and at the same time the Euros decide to give him a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts? It almost seems like sarcasm.

Well...

I don't really mind when a US President wins a prestigious award, of course. But I'm seriously baffled this time. Has the Noble Peace Prize sunk to the level of a High School popularity contest or something?

Anonymouse

Cause means:

a person or thing that acts, happens, or exists in such a way that some specific thing happens as a result; the producer of an effect: You have been the cause of much anxiety. What was the cause of the accident?

2.

the reason or motive for some human action: The good news was a cause for rejoicing.

3.

good or sufficient reason: to complain without cause; to be dismissed for cause.

4.

Law.

a.

a ground of legal action; the matter over which a person goes to law.

b.

a case for judicial decision.

5.

any subject of discussion or debate.

6.

a principle, ideal, goal, or movement to which a person or group is dedicated: the Socialist cause; the human rights cause.

7.

the welfare of a person or group, seen as a subject of concern: support for the cause of the American Indian.

8.

Philosophy.

a.

the end or purpose for which a thing is done or produced.

b.

Aristotelianism. any of the four things necessary for the movement or the coming into being of a thing, namely a material (material cause), something to act upon it (efficient cause), a form taken by the movement or development (formal cause), and a goal or purpose (final cause).

–verb (used with object)

9.

to be the cause of; bring about.

—Idiom

10.

make common cause, to unite in a joint effort; work together for the same end: They made common cause with neighboring countries and succeeded in reducing tariffs.

So the fact that the acts of Obama are not peaceful then it is all hollow.

Ali Mostofi

//www.alimostofi.com

Ali ur words/anything is justified if "cause of peace" is hollow

Everything is sacred.

Reply to Anonymouse

Reply to Anonymouse .......

I notice this phrase "The Cause of Peace". Hollow words. Totally meaningless.

Action speaks louder than words.

Fact: The US has engaged itself against an enemy in Afghanistan/Pakistan that is: not that strong, no that week; makes enough news, enough deaths; to keep the tax payers from moaning, and give loads of money to fat generals. So that is the action that Obama is pouring even more bodies into.

Fact: Iran's Peace Movement can topple the Seyyeds over night if the world media asked the right questions, and put the Seyyeds on the spot. But will Mr Obama do us such a noble gesture and put the Seyyeds on the spot by asking them, "hey what would you guys do if the people of Iran decided to go on a General Strike and switched the power off?". Obama can seriously turn the knob and nibble and the hit the numb spot of Iran's abnormal rulers. He could work on being with the people of Iran - be with them as they think ooobamast. But the fact is he has accepted the Islamic Republic by name and would visit Qom anyday. Who's side is he on?

He and the UN could help Iranians create a government in exile that follows international treaties as opposed to being a rogue pariah state. But he does not.

Shall I continue?

No I won't. It is our fault. We are going to sort out our own mess. Obama will come and go. Iran will remain. End of story.

Ali Mostofi

//www.alimostofi.com

Four US presidents, count it 4, have won this award, 3 in office

Here's the list of 4 presidents along with the reasons and the one for Obama. Of course if you don't like this selection you can join the ranks of skeptics.

//www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/09/us.nobel.presidents/index.html 

Everything is sacred.

Right on!!

Great post, Anonymouse jan. Thank you.

Ali jaan you're saying all the old stuff.Stalin was "nominated"2

All the stuff about industrial profits, war machine complex and all the rest are becoming old news fast.  Stalin was nominated twice for peace prize in 45 and 46 for helping to bring WWII to close.  But he never won.  There is a difference between nomination and winning.

Arafat won because he helped bring about 1993 Oslo peace accord and he won jointly with Yitzak Rabin who was assasinated for trying to make peace.  Arafat won the prize for that year for his accomplishments.  Now whether or not he followed through that is another story and his legacy.

You see when you lump everything together, old news and daily news, there becomes a malghameh of everything that doesn't really make sense.  I am not surprised to see Obama win.  As I said before his "accomplishment" is nothing but he has moved the cause of peace by 10 fold.

In the same token, Iranian people have moved the cause of peace and democracy by 10 fold, even though they didn't "accomplish" anything this year.

Everything is sacred.