All-Iranians: A Conscientious Voice Silenced

All-Iranians: A Conscientious Voice Silenced
by anglophile
10-Jul-2012
 

Why should one of the most courteous contributors to this site be banned? Some of us may not have agreed with his line of thinking but "All-Iranians" never belittled, caused affront or even ridiculed any one. He painstakingly researched his subjects and was meticulous with details. One of the most prolific and humanistic bloggerss of this site, is now blocked for the reasons that remain unknown to us.

I have always maintained that on a site like IranianDotCom, which I hold very dear incidentally, one must not argue with the rules.  These rules are made by the site's owner/manager and, in my opinion, he has every right to allow or disallow his customers to enjoy his product and his services. But is it such an unfair request to ask for clarity and consistency in the application of these rules? Or must the customers accept that these rules can vary at any time depending on the mood of the moderator. Again if this happens to be the case, is it so unreasonable to ask for a clear statement on this policy?

Is it unfair to ask to be warned of an upcoming ban should the offender repeat his or her 'mistake' one more time? Or is the site management interested in playing a charade?

Without All-Iranians this site is indeed a poorer place.

Please Remove the Ban on "All-Iranians."

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Shemirani

Thank You for not paying any attention to our request !

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Missing All-Iranians blogs, now that i have some time to read something i can't find anything to read that i like, So Boring :(

Khaste nabashid Invisible admin !!

 


anglophile

Well, still no answer from our dear Admin?

by anglophile on

Even if my good friend "All-Iranian" has used a profane word (which I can't believe it) according to the rules one must be frequent offender to be blocked. All-Iranian? Frequent offender? Impossibel!

But remember:

Even God would allow some room for error :)


Shemirani

please UNban All-Iranians

by Shemirani on

please UNban All-Iranians and  Simorgh555, Amir1973 !!!!

 What ever they have done, being Permantly ban is too much !!! have a fair sanction in regards of  the damage please !!

 

 

 


First Amendment

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vildemose

 ALL Iranian is banned?

by vildemose on

 ALL Iranian is banned? What could he have possibly said to have been offensive or deragatory? I'm shocked. He sometimes goes out of his way to be thoughtful and courteous. What possibly could have happend??

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir


IRANLOVESISRAEL

Please unblock all banned members including:

by IRANLOVESISRAEL on

All-Iranians,

Ghool,

Monkey and the Organ Grinder,

And others.

May lord Moses bless JJ and Admin!

Shlomo the lover of Israel.


divaneh

We miss All-Iranians

by divaneh on

It is beyond belief that a gentle person such as AI can be banned after 3 or more years and many valuable contributions in such an insensitive manner.

I also support the call for the return of the All-Iranians to the IC family. This site is much poorer without AI.

Does anybody still know why AI was blocked?


Truthseeker9

"Doing time"

by Truthseeker9 on

Why not Admin block people for, say, 6 weeks as reflection period and then allow them back with their original ID if they promise to abide by the rules? Then it won't be a ban. It would be good to see people back again. 


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We should put their names and avatars on milk cartons!


anglophile

Thank you AN jaan

by anglophile on

I didn't know that Simorgh and Amir had been banned too. It might be an idea to dedicate a regularly updated blog to our banned friends (and foes) and keep an account of the absence and hopefully their revival.  


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Also - don't forget Amir1973 and Simorgh555

by Anonymous Observer on

great contributors who were banned.  Simorgh was the target of a habitual abuser who kept creating blogs about him and harassing him.  The Admin should have stopped that nonsense.  But that unfortunately did not happen and he was provoked enough and banned.  Simorgh was (and is wherever he is) a true Iranian patriot.  Same thing with Amir.


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Absolutely right FN jaan

by anglophile on

We shouldn't forget the reason this blog was posted. I think there are other users who were banned unjustly and I hope this blog serves as a reminder for the plight of our fallen friends.


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I miss Mousa

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Don't forget Mousa69 - or Sigmund to me.

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Friendly Notes

What is wrong with you guys

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Was not the original subject of this blog about All-Iranians? CIM and some other guys taking some other roads. Please focus on the main subject. As Anglophile requested:

Please Remove the Ban on "All-Iranians."


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It must be nice

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to have the freedom to sit behind the western-developed computer and spew out garbage day in and day out....islamist pukes must pay their mozdors well so they won't have to hold down a real job.

 


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Agree to my conditions for interview

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and we will have a one on one interview...you and I.  I even gave you the GPS coordinates:

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//iranian.com/main/blog/cim/congratulations-iranian-com


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Ask Mr. Javid & Amin to agree to the interview and join us

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 "by Anonymous Observer on half of those names are himself under various usernames."  

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Dear Faramarz, Thank you for the question.

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Anonymous Observer

Faramarz jaan, that's because

by Anonymous Observer on

half of those names are himself under various usernames. :-))


Bavafa

Did not know 'All Iranian' was banned...

by Bavafa on

Rather shameful to see people banned and therefore silenced on this site.

I sincerely hope s/he is asked to come back.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

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Framarz: just those last four names should tell everyone

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where all this "objectivity" and "professionalism" is coming from! Hint, hint!!


Shemirani

Ops

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(there  is NO violation of private life )

 

 


Shemirani

Where is my friend ?*

by Shemirani on

All-Iranians is a polite respectful chap never annoying anyone, his blogs are a collection of links (all already existing) making easier for us to read about public figure's background.  what he is doing is perfectly  legal and moral (there is  violation of private life )  

i don't see why you decided to ban him  ?!!!!

Please unban All-Iranians

* i'm sure you know what i mean !

 

 

 

 


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بی سیم

Faramarz


 

 

For someone who has been on this site for only 3 months, you sure have a good handle on the people who have been banished for years. Are you a reincarnation of one of the "Oldies?"


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We are going through the list

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Faramarz

One Iranian Silenced, All-Iranians Silenced!

by Faramarz on

 

 

آل ایرانیان از زندان، آزاد باید گردد

آن بلاگر خوش گفتار، آزاد باید گردد 


Friendly Notes

Very well said

by Friendly Notes on

Thank you Anglophile for this great blog. You are perfectly right:

1. A blogger better be warned of an upcoming ban should the offender repeat his or her 'mistake' one more time.

2. Please Remove the Ban on "All-Iranians."


Mohammad Ala

Freedom of speech is similar to swiming in a public pool.

by Mohammad Ala on

IC Admin should provide believable explanation(s).  When I have complained why a certain member has been blocked, either I did not get an answer or a vague reply was provided such as “ used profanity.”  Many members have used profanity and they are still around.  Personal attacks have continued which has been hallmark of bogus IC members.

I have tried not to reply to bogus members who use personal attacks or dig information on “real,” members while hiding their own.  These cowards have audacity to speak about freedom of speech.

Members who are banned should be permitted to return IF they do not continue their mischievous behavior.

Several members in the past two days have been attacked for expressing their personal views.  The following issues must be understood about freedom to express yourself (1) you should not be permitted to hide your personal information while asking personal questions from others because this proves a member to be a coward and lowlife person, (2) you must respect other people’s views and do not label them without being held accountable.  IC must consider itself lucky for not being sued for the acts of coward bogus members.  And (3) bogus members must assume their free speech is similar to swimming in a public pool.  They can swim all they want but they are not permitted to relieve themselves in the pool.