U.S. not involved in Roshan assassination.

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U.S. not involved in Roshan assassination.
by Ari Siletz
13-Jan-2012
 

“Bush went absolutely ballistic,” when briefed by reports that Mossad was impersonating the CIA when recruiting Jondollah terrorists. This bit of old news comes from Mark Perry writing for Foreign Policy Magazine. The article follows efforts by the United States to distance itself from the assassination of Iran’s nuclear program employee, Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan.  

“The report [about the impersonation] sparked White House concerns that Israel’s program was putting Americans at risk,” says an American intelligence officer quoted by Perry. Sure, the U.S. and Israel cooperated on Iran related covert operations, “…but this was different. No matter what anyone thinks, we’re not in the business of assassinating Iranian officials or killing Iranian civilians.” After George Bush left office, President Obama severely restricted covert operations with Israel, yet Jondollah continued its terrorist attacks inside Iran. In 2010, a Jondollah terrorist bomb killed 35 and injured over 100 Iranian civilians.

I believe the U.S. government when it says it was not involved in the Roshan assassination. CIA director Leon Panetta made the U.S. position clear by publicly stating last week that Iran is not trying to develop a nuclear weapon. But Israel believes otherwise. When Panetta was asked what if Israel took unilateral action, he said, “we would have to be prepared to protect our forces in that situation, and that’s what we would be concerned about.” In other words, the U.S. wouldn’t like that to happen. This was also a warning to the IRI to look carefully before it leaps to conclusions about U.S. involvement in the Roshan assassination. Wrongly retaliating against the U.S. would be a bad decision on IRI’s part.

Of course it will be difficult to tell a CIA agent from a Mossad agent impersonating a CIA agent. And if the U.S. does not help Iran out here, she will lose control of the situation even more than she has. One quoted intelligence officer in Perry’s article says, "It's amazing what the Israelis thought they could get away with. Their [false flag] recruitment activities were nearly in the open.” There’s a chance that at some point the U.S. will get fed up enough to try to blow Israel’s false flag operation.

Fat chance? Maybe not. Here’s one final quote from an angry U.S. intelligence official: "Israel is supposed to be working with us, not against us. If they want to shed blood, it would help a lot if it was their blood and not ours. You know, they're supposed to be a strategic asset. Well, guess what? There are a lot of people now, important people, who just don't think that's true."  

Read Mark Perry’s article here.

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maziar 58

Merci Bavafa

by maziar 58 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 07:10 AM PST

U.s has condemned the act Israel denied involvment IRR don't know why

now find "Portoghal forosh" yekdast ra.!

Maziar


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maghshoosh

Mark Perry interview

by maghshoosh on Sat Jan 14, 2012 04:12 PM PST

Aljazeera interviews Perry:

Perry's categorical denial of the US gov't targeting of foreign nationals or foreign gov't officials is not very convincing.


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Ari Siletz

Mammad

by Ari Siletz on Sat Jan 14, 2012 04:02 PM PST

Still, precision politicking would require Iran to keep separate books on  the U.S. and Israel accounts whenever advantageous.  If Israel's covert actions are partly designed to drag the U.S. into war with Iran, separate accounts would work to thwart those plans, and mixed accounts would work to assist them.


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Mammad

What does it mean when Hillary Clinton denies

by Mammad on Sat Jan 14, 2012 02:32 PM PST

U.S. involvement in Roshan's assassination, when it is the U.S. that is the most important protector of Israel in international arena, particularly at the UN, it provides Israel with over $3 billion annually in military aid [not to mention billions that go to Israel every year by Israel's supporters in the U.S., Europe, and Australia], and it vetoes every UNSC resolution condemning what Israel does to Palestinians?

And, is this just an "Israeli activity abroad," or is this helping terrorist operations in Iran? If not, why? If yes, why not condemning it for once? Is this too much to expect?

Mammad


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US Could have..

by darius on Sat Jan 14, 2012 02:25 PM PST

United Stated could have attacked Iran from all direction since 2003

but has refused to  do so ,    the assumption that Russia and China would do anything against the move , I beleive is wrong.

Russia and China have done some talks of support  but neither one is  willing or has the status to  exert any pressure  if   USA decide to attack Iran.

For now , both China and Russia are  enjoying some of the benefit of USA intervention in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan and I doubt if they have any interest to lose those benefits econmically and  politically.

I do not beleive USA has any hope for Iranian opposition group outside( except MEK for gathering intelligence inside Iran) that has proven to be outdated, ineffective with no or little  internal support. The Green movement was their hope but for whatever reason it failed to pave the way for initiating a change in IRI  foreign policy but no domestically.

Regarding Israel, USA is fully aware that Israel is seeking territorial expansion and Palestinian in no way could be considered as neighbour or even citizens .They are out of  the equation ,Plaestinian need to realise that fact.For the last decade, I beleive USA has tried hard to delay such intention by the Israelis by lettting them to do as they please.

 

 

 

 

 

My question now  is how realistic is the Israeli dream for becoming a power house ?

Would 88 to 200 nuclear bombs, given free license to kill and strike

would get them to that point?

 

Fow how  long Israel can keeps the whole nation at state of war and 

threat?

Who pays for it? 

Does falling into trap of  introducing muslims as anti christ or threat to world security serve them any good?

Finally , how long muslim can promise the 72 virgins and continue

following the idea o f Mehdi Kingdom?It is time for them to get over  the idea, it is not gonna happen, wisen up.

Considering all the factors both muslims and Jews need to learn to live and develope mutual respects. 


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vildemose

This is a new low for

by vildemose on Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:22 AM PST

This is a new low for Israeli government. This is not the first time Israel has falsely tried to implicate other countries in its activities abroad. 

 //www.juancole.com/2012/01/israeli-mossad-agents-allegedly-impersonated-cia-in-fostering-baluch-terrorism-against-iran.html

 A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


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vildemose

Iran lashes out at West

by vildemose on Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:25 AM PST

Iran lashes out at West over slain scientist, but hints at diplomatic opening

//www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/angry-iran-buries-slain-scientist-vows-revenge-against-us-israel/2012/01/13/gIQAT65CwP_story.html?wprss=rss_world 

 A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


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Abarmard

Gut feeling

by Abarmard on Sat Jan 14, 2012 05:34 AM PST

When I saw Hillary Clinton disapproved of recent terror act and denied any involvement, along with the news that Israelis posed as CIA to hire terrorists made me believe that the USA is not involved in these terror acts. She sounded genuine. It's my gut feeling to believe US officials in this case.


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Ari Siletz

darius, not the first time

by Ari Siletz on Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:33 AM PST

From Perry's article regarding the Jondollah attack:

 

"This certainly isn't the first
time this has happened, though it's the worst case I've heard of," former Centcom
chief and retired Gen. Joe Hoar said of the Israeli operation upon being
informed of it. "But while false-flag operations are hardly new, they're
extremely dangerous. You're basically using your friendship with an ally for
your own purposes. Israel is playing with fire. It gets us involved in their
covert war, whether we want to be involved or not." 

And yes, I see Perry's article as a signal to Israel...and to Iran. U.S. intelligence community complaints regarding Israel taking liberties with American lives (and economy) have not led to serious action so far so as to not "rock the boat." The Iran situation may be different, as it could drag the U.S. into a war on a schedule set by Israeli action.  By the way, whether the U.S. is involved with Israeli action or not, it is Iran's strategy to make the U.S. believe that Iran will expand the war to all of the Middle East and possibly beyond once it starts. This puts pressure on the U.S. to rein Israel in. 

 


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Why did it..?

by darius on Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:47 PM PST

Why did it take so long to publish the news? Is leaking the False Flag case  by design and sort of warning to Israel?

It is childish to beleive this is the first case of False Flag  and it is also 

a known facts that many top secret USA information in many area  of military or industrial applications  are   passed to Israeli and there is nothing that USA can do about it . 

 

 


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Ari Siletz

Bavafa

by Ari Siletz on Fri Jan 13, 2012 09:34 PM PST

If Perry's report is true, the U.S. may pressure Israel to make it more explicit that Israel acted alone in the assassination, come what may. I would watch for the signs of this struggle in future Israeli government statements.


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Bavafa

In the dirty politics and tri-relation of Israel, US and Iran…

by Bavafa on Fri Jan 13, 2012 08:46 PM PST

It is hard to know who is telling the truth and is behind these trouble acts. 

Few things are less ambiguous though

  •        Each of these acts including the ensuing tit will only bring the region closer to war
  •       The comments by Israeli officials only fuel the situation    
  •     Innocent civilian will pay the highest price for the stupidity of policians

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


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