Yes Azizam

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Ari Siletz
by Ari Siletz
17-Jan-2010
 

Siavash: Put your camera away, Sepideh, and just once see nature with your own eyes. You miss so much. Look there on the lake, seven ghaaz just like in the story.

Sepideh: [Puts away her digital camera.] Beautiful birds. They're not kalaagh, though?

Siavash: who said they were kalaagh. I just said they were ghaaz, why do you always enjoy contradicting me? Just because I don’t like going to your brother’s house?

Sepideh: I was just saying the story is called haft kalaagh and these birds are…”

Siavash: Who said they were kalaagh? Did I ever say they were kalaagh? I clearly said they were ghaaz didn’t I?

Sepideh: [Sighs.] Yes azizam, you said they were ghaaz. Now keep your eyes on the road or we’ll have an accident.

Siavash: Before you start arguing, first listen then think about what I said.

Sepideh: Yes azizam, you said, “Look, Sepideh, seven ghaaz just like in the story.” Weren’t they gorgeous birds, especially the males? You should have slowed down. So cute that they were all paired.

Siavash: [chuckles patronizingly.] You can’t pair up seven ghaaz, there will always be one left over, usually the youngest male.

Sepideh: One was in the rushes, and two were diving when you looked. There were ten of them.

Siavash: I saw those too, and altogether there were Seven! Learn to count joonam.

[Sepideh picks up her digital camera and begins playing back the pictures.]

Siavash: [Nervously, cranes in Sepideh’s direction pretending to be looking for something in the glove box.] The other three weren’t actually ghaaz; they were something else.

Sepideh: [still searching through the pictures.] Yes azizam, they must have been kalaagh e daryaaee.

Siavash: And even if they were ghaaz they must have landed after I looked.

Sepideh: Yes Azizam, these trees are full of ghaaz.

Siavash: [Sardonically] ghaaz don’t live in trees, Sepideh joon. The extra three came from the sky. You didn’t see them come down because you were too busy messing with your stupid camera. As I said, you should try seeing nature with your own eyes. You miss too much. Put the camera away.

Sepideh: Yes Azizam, as soon as I figure out how to photoshop these ordak pictures to make them look like ghaaz for you.

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Dear Monda, thanks for summary of e-mail.  Please send me the complete one. It will be great to know more about whales by the time we go whale watching.  Then we will know what to look for.


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Anahid, just got this in an email

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To Whom It May Concern:

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I'll send you the complete email later. 


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Anahid jan,

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It's so nice to see your enthusiasm! Let's wait to hear from Ari about the right time.


Anahid Hojjati

Monda & Ari, looks like whale watching trip is coming together

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Dear Monda and Ari, it looks like the trip is going to happen. Thanks guys.


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Sounds good Monda,

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I'll talk to the tourist boat folks and maybe a local marine biologist to find out what the best time would be. I have a feeling we would see more males in the February part of the migration and more females with babies closer to April (Field notes on humans often mention mom  still packing for the baby while dad waits in the car).

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Aye here too... Ari, what do you think

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about calling the IC Fundraiser Whale-Watching Social?  

We could serve rum and whiskey in small bottles to keep everyone warm. Also hot aash reshteh would go well with the scenery, right?

It's great to hear JJ loves whales too, maybe he'd get involved with the project :o) 

 


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any weekend is good if...

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the whales are there. 

 


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Hmm

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Well, many of you know how much I love whales. I have one tattooed on my arm! I'm all for it :)


Anahid Hojjati

Great Ari. Will a February weekend work for most of us?

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Dear Ari, sounds fantastic.  Will you let us know what we need to do? I guess first step is to come up with a date that most of us can make it.  My preference is to do this in a weekend in February since chances are in March people are busy with NowRuz (I know I might be starting another mini debate about the spelling) activities.  Monda, Ari and other Bay area friends who are reading this, will a Feb. weekend work for you?


Ari Siletz

I vote aye.

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JJ, lets you, me, Monda,Anahid and the rest of the SF Bay IC gang go fundraiser whale watching. Between February and April Grey whales swim back to Alaska from Mexico, staying close to the California coast with their calves.

Anahid Hojjati

Monda jan, your Whale watching fundraiser idea is great

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Monda jan, I like your idea about whale watching fundraiser, what does Jahanshah say about this?

 


Jaleho

Very interesting Ari, thanks

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This clarifies it. My lab is quite gorgeous to watch( at the moment it looks like an arts master dipping all the trees in confectioner's sugar and shaking it gently with glittering soft powder in every little branch and one side of the trunk!), but lacking a minimum of theoretical background prevents me from getting full benefit of it. Actually I thought that the geese are fighting for food or something when they ganged up against one, my nature oriented neighbor told me that it was a sexual ritual of male geese against the poor female.

Now, do you realize that you just provided a Dayee jan Napoleon grafted version of Darwinism for permanent prevention of rape, much to the detriment of male spicies? Just imagine! A world without rape or aggression, AND handsome guys all around dancing and singing wonderful songs and building gorgeous houses.

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Jaleho, its really rape

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The article is badly written and the photo is confusing, I agree. I cited it because it clarifies that Anserinae (swans and geese) don't dive, not because it says some ducks don't dive either. If it dives, it's not a goose. If it doesn't dive, it may be a goose or it may be something else, for example a non-diving variety of duck or lions.

Don't know about female geese having semen blocks, but female ducks do. Why do drakes rape? One answer may be because they can (though I think this answer is unlikely). Most male birds don't have penises and have to dance, sing, wear fancy feathers, build elaborate nests, anything but play chess to get the female's consent. Ducks and geese on the other hand are among of the few birds that do have penises and so rape is possible. So female ducks have evolved oviduct anatomies that helps them regain control of paternity. You've got an interesting lab in your backyard.

 


Jaleho

Ari, I am completely confused now!

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See, the first link you provided had this piece:

"Merginae (seaducks) and Oxyurinae (stiff-tailed ducks) are characterized by diving

underwater to obtain their food, while Anatinae (dabbling ducks) and Anserinae (swans and

geese) primarily feed at the water surface by “dabbling” their bills in the water or by upending

(tipping their bodies so that their head is underwater and their tail remains above water; see

photo) to reach deeper."

Then it has a photo of the bird upending and under it it writes: male mallard upends.

So, I thought I erroneously had assumed in the past that mallard is a duck. Now, you're telling me that mallard IS a duck and upending is not the same thing as diving, I thought it is the same thing. Sorry, it all got too technical for me. I also really thought that it is just the mating process when all those male geese attack the female one, I used the gand rape jokingly. Now, you're telling me that the female duck (or goose) has evolutionary devoloped to prevent fertilization in that kinda mating process?


Ari Siletz

Jaleho, photo hints

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Yes, the photo in the article is a mallard duck , and he's "upending"  not "diving." Here's a photo of a duck diving. As you can see, there's no duck because he's  underwater. To document diving geese, the photo from your window should show the goose re-emerging head first from the water as with this duck. Bird watchers would be interested in such a photo.                                     Dunking during waterfowl rape is common, and unpleasant to watch. Why ducks rape so often is controversial because the science gets mixed up with human sociology. Those who say it is an evolutionary adaptation for the males tend to get in trouble. From the female side, though, the adaptation is more obvious because she has evolved physical barriers to prevent fertilization from rape.  

Monda

Gottman findings in friendships?

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I'd say depending on friends' styles, settings, length of relationship, stage of friendship, and their friendship focus, i.e. their levels of comfort with affectionate expressions. 

Humor on the other hand, is always a serious gauge in any relationship from corporate to intimate :o) I don't need Gottman to research that one either.

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My god issues don't belong here, maybe I'll go back to JJ's blog. 

 


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Ari, beacuse I want attention jigaram,

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The article you sent had so many names I got confused what name is a duck and which ones are goose. To begin with, I always thought mallard is a duck. And the picture of that pretty white butt that you provided, was exactly what I thought of as duck!

But really, did I contradict you? NO, or I didn't mean to. I just thought you'd find it interesting to know that I get to see these geese (many of them) in my yard doing all kinda funny things, including MAKING one female dive like that. Next spring, I'll get the camera to provide proof, if you promise you wouldn't become jealous.


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Thanks Jaleho

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To begin our Siavash vs Sepideh argument, why do you always enjoy contradicting me? Did I say geese don't dive? I said geese typically don't dive? More seriously:   Yes Azizam, I'm always happy to yield to empirical evidence. Send photos of diving geese from your window. Also send a copy to Julia Halverson who wrote a piece called, ""Diving Canada geese, an unexpected behavioral observation on the Green River." She saw a diving goose on June 16, 2006.

Jaleho

Good one Ari, and that

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Darvag poem moves every nerve in my body with its beauty. Thanks for bringing it back to me, long time i have not heard it.

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Ari Siletz

Monda

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Very interesting about shared sense of humor and affectionate words helping couples stay in relationships. would you guess the same idea is at work with lasting friendships?  I would be very curious to see different couples act the skit, and watch how they interpret Sepideh and Siavash's tone, posture and body language in their acting? It would be a great party game, and would say something about where they're at with each other (especially if there's a therapist in the mehmooni).    In this case, I get the impression Siavash wants more attention from Sepideh, which is why he is jealous of the camera. Not to mention the fact that the camera contains ego-busting  proof that he was wrong about the number of birds and their species and how much more he misses about nature than his wife.

Sorry to hear you're blue with the flu. Hope you feel better soon.  Have a touch of it myself, and I've been doing my namaz roozeh religiously. So it can't be God, unless He's cranky with the flu Himself. He may have gotten it from Gabrielle who was visiting Earth lately.

Emotional reaction to JJ's love link? Maybe if you said more.  

 

 

 

 

 

 


Monda

Ari, John Gottman

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At his Relationship Research Institute in Seattle can predict Siavash and Sepideh's stability as a couple, by watching only about 5 minutes of their interactions, in postures and facial nuances.  Shared sense of humor is on top of his list for positive values.  Partners' referring to each other in affectionate ways like azizam is another one.  So there's much hope for your characters. 

I still don't get your Love God link (on JJ's blog) and I'm having an emotional reaction to that in my gut.  I'm home with stomach flu. Maybe it's God's wrath? :o) 

 

 


Monda

anahid, you and I live near this nature too

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but we don't know our birds from our non-birds!  it's Ari's style of being that knows how to integrate all natural and unnatural elements into some stimulating wonderful piece to remember. 

Nahang dar koozeh made my tear come down.  

Let's have an iranian.com Whale watching fundraiser, how's that?


Jahanshah Javid

Aman az dasteh bitchy couples!

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Vah vah vah... Khoda naseeb nakoneh... :)))


Anahid Hojjati

Dear Ari, Many thanks for all great information in your comment

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Dear Ari, that was real beautiful about whale being released from tiny water vessel into the ocean.  Many thanks also about letting me know about the Farallone Islands.  I hope to visit this Island and to be able to write poetry about it.  As far as Shomali writers using more wildlife imagery, it would make sense since there is so much magnificent scenery and so many different species in Gilan and Mazandaran. 


Ari Siletz

Anahid

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For someone who grew up in Tehran, I feel so lucky to live in the SF bay area where there are so many easily accessible forests, marshes and tidepools with an incredible variety of wildlife and plants. This is bound to affect how we write.

 

For example, a few years back we spotted a humpback whale near the Golden Gate bridge during a scattering of ashes ceremony for a friend. When I was working on a brief bio of my friend as a memorial, I called the piece "Nahang dar koozeh." This friend's vast talents had been stifled in Iran; when he came to the US to become a super success it was as though a whale trapped in a tiny water vessel had been released into the ocean. 

 

Check out the Farallone Islands, a few miles by tourist boat off the SF Bay. Whales, sharks, dolphis, seabirds I am certain you would write verses about.

 

PS: Do our Gilani and Mazanderani poets use more wildlife imagery than our other poets? I really like Nima Yooshij's Daarvag.

 For the reader:

 

داروگ (frog)

خشک آمد کشتگاه ِ من
در جوار ِ کشت ِ همسايه .
گرچه می‌گويند : « می‌گريند روی ِ ساحل ِ نزديک
سوکواران در ميان ِ سوکواران . »
قاصد ِ روزان ِ ابری ، داروگ !  کی می‌رسد باران ؟

بر بساطی که بساطی نيست ،
در درون ِ کومه‌ی ِ تاريک ِ من که ذرّه‌ای با آن نشاطی نيست
و جدار ِ دنده‌های ِ نی به ديوار ِ اتاقم دارد از خشکيش می‌ترکد
- چون دل ِ ياران که در هجران ِ ياران –
قاصد ِ روزان ِ ابری ، داروگ ! کی می‌رسد باران ؟


Anahid Hojjati

Dear Ari, you are so good with knowing behavior of ducks and..

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Dear Ari, I am impressed with your last comment.  You seem to know a lot about animals.  I am so bad with animals, flowers, all nature.  The best I can do is to write poetry about "Baran sabok" and "baran sangeen".  I need to learn more about nature.  Additionally, you know about music too.  By the way, we missed you yesterday.

 


Ari Siletz

Divaneh

by Ari Siletz on

I too tend to take Sepideh's side in the argument. The fairy tale is call Haft Kalaagh and not Haft Ghaaz. Also I have a feeling that Sepideh has a picture of ten ducks in her camera. But she should have picked her argument in proper order; first tell Siavash that they are ducks not geese, and then argue about what the story is called.

To me, the behavior and description of the birds suggests Sepideh is right to think they are ducks. Male geese don't look that much prettier than the females (duck males do), and geese typically don't dive (ducks do).


divaneh

Funny dialogue

by divaneh on

It always takes two to tango, but if you ask me Siavash pestering her too much (Zeeyadi geer meede). Thanks for the entertaining piece.


Ari Siletz

Thanks folks, always a pleasure.

by Ari Siletz on

Hovakhshatare, don't know if you're married or not, but if you are:

 

سنگ هاون، نیش سوزن، گر سزاوارت نیست هرچه او گفت تو مگو