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Israel's hstory of deception

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7 Reasons why Romney was behind Libyan Attack...

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Romney Over-Hypes Libyan Attack --- WHY?

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Amir-Jan, I think in the final analysis ...

The majority of Americans will realize that spending $2 Trillion dollars more on the Military, which is what Romney is proposing is not something the U.S. can afford right now. The debate is changing in subtle ways from war with Iran, to upgrading U.S. military capability. And Romney is actually pushing for higher spending. And ordinary Americans, those that are thoughtful about this, realize they just can't spend this extra cash - and that will swing the elections to Obama.

There are good guys? Where do you see them in the US?

The Citizens you speak of are likely the ones you see trying to get by in US society and they have never had any impact on the US governments Policies.  You Niavely misunderstand what is going on over in the USA.  Refresher for your eyes only.  No Government can start wars like the US Government and scare a consensus into supporting it.  It starts with part 1), all the personal income tax of all people paying it in the USA, which doesn't even cover the cost of the 10 Aircraft Carrier Battle Groups the US has around the world or its thousands of foreign bases.  Then you have part 2) unlike the countries in the Europe, which you rightly criticise, when soldiers come home, no one in the USA pays their bills adequately.  That is why the USA can fight and start wars for PROFIT , while none of the other powers can.

So in the USA case, when you have the hundreds of thousands of Post Traumatic Stress victims in the US military who will never be able to work another day in their lives or due to other reasons, wounds, gulf war syrdrome from depleted uranium you literally have hundreds of thousands of people that need care for the rest for their lives.  These are the USA's poor normally, sadly thinking they are being patriotic, but in practice they are just being used by a government that doesn't care for them.  These US vets end p homeless on the streets, its a reality we don't see in either Russia or Europe.  In the UK, the govt alone gives vets, 7,000 Pounds cash a year for food and bills, no taxes for their homes saves 2,000 to 4,000 pounds, free doctor and drugs, and rent if they need it (capped at 2000 pounds a month max). 

Ayatoilet, if the US Govt would only do one thing, that is serve the people its supposed to and meet their needs instead of devising ways to use the people of the USA as cannon fodder so weapons companies can turn a PROFIT. Then the USA wouldn't be at war with every single country in the world.  If the USA actually paid its soldiers bills the way it is done in the UK/France etc they would face the same dilemma and not be able to start wars as it costs money to care for the returning troops.  So we have you moving from  " the USA is the greatest hope for freedom and democracy,  a suggestion of such bs, no one could say such a thing with a straight face if they were living in a society where the media was free and peoples attention was not bought and sold by money"  to lecturing me about what approach will bring us towards peace and progress????

These people you say you love in the USA, don't even pretend to be their friend, if you were their friend you'd wish for freedom, justice and democracy for them. Something You are pretending to not know in your observation is that Obama came to power on the promise of change and yet started and escalated major wars, by supporting the worse extremists that the CIA had access to (of course if you were influenced by the Nobel Peace Committee then you would not call them wars) make no mistake these were wars and they did create greater turmoil and instability, not peace and progress.

In a situation where you have a Obama and A Romney, you really don't have a choice like you think you do.  You have openly against russia versus covertly against russia.  You have the use of sepratists and extremists openly against IRI without the US military directly involved or you have sepratist and extremists covertly.  Romney will steam roll over the UN to break up Iran/support extremists ex MeK, the "you're either with us or against us approach" of George Bush, Obama will use the "here let me reward you with a gift and stab you in the back approach" to Break up Iran/suppot extremists ex MeK over a gradual approach. 

You say "With your approach there will NEVER be peace or progress."  Look Iranians level of awareness needs to be far higher as a community.  That way Iranians can flow along with the disasterous forces armed against them and steer Iran back towards Peace and Progress based on National Understanding when they have the opportunity.

Personally I can't see Obama Losing to Romney as a practical matter the USA doesn't have the money to start actions that could lead to new major world wars. 

Dear Amir-Jan, My point is misunderstood...

Some elements in the U.S. are the last beacon of hope - not the ones that support extremists. I think Romney and Ryan are from Reagan's mold of making secret deals with the Mullahs! That is the very point of my article.

Let me just restate for the record that I absolutely hope that the good guys among the U.S., and among the Israeli's make it to power! There are good guys. I have deep respect and real sincere appreciation (call it love if you will) for many if not most of the Americans and Jews I have met. Do NOT misunderstand.  And you should not confuse ordinary people's decency with the ruthless manipulations of an evil set of politicians (and the small group of business leaders behind them in certain industries). Do NOT throw the people out with the bathwater. Americans ingeneral support the liberation and freedom movements in other countries - including Iran. It has been certain government and organizations that do not.

With your approach there will NEVER be peace or progress. The first step in going foward is to know where the dangerous paths are; and avoid them. There are people in all nations that Iranians can partner with. Netenyahu is not one of them.

There is no contradiction here.

On the truth getting out. I hope discovering the truth

partially helps you realize what ridiculous propaganda you have running around in your mind.  On: US is the last beacon of hope people in countries like Iran have for liberation or freedom.  The USA has been the opponent of Liberation and Freedom for countries like Iran and the region it is Africanizing.  The USA brought Khomeini, the USA supports extremism.  I'm not sure why you contradict yourself so often based on current news its not healthy.

Nozar: This is about Netenyahu - not Jews

People need to understand that when people criticize Netenyahu - they ARE NOT criticizing Jews. Iranians, my friend, love the Jewish community and have always gotten on very well with them. You need to be less sensitive and learn NOT to connect the two together.

As for Jewish influence, lets just agree that the Jewish community has a disproprotionate influence in U.S. political life. They form roughly 2% of the U.S. Population, but control over 65% of net assets (that means wealth) in the U.S.; there are over 100 Jewish Billionaires. More than 65% of U.S. lawyers, more than 65% of U.S. doctors, I could go on and on. They own the media.

And now, its is very clear the elite in Israel, are in bed with the Mormons in the U.S. and have essentially undertaken this to humiliate Obama via the embassy in Libya. Congressman Jason Chaffetz that ran his mouth at the hearing for the Libyan Embassy deaths this week - has a Jewish Father and converted to Mormonism. He ran the show on C-Span.

We are in a new age! The truth will get out.

Humorous views, all else are paid for by others LOL

Not that it is the mass Media and University institutions Misinform the public and then people act based on their conscience with out much true information, in Irans case allowing lies in, but what's funny is that you feel that you are immune to all this.

• US is the last beacon of hope people in countries like Iran have for
  liberation or freedom.  LOL after helping MeK, the deceit still has a hold on you after all that has happened LOL.
• The Europeans for sure could not care less about
  freedom anywhere else.  No Western Powers care about freedom for anyone except for their own, especially the USA.  This is based on 250 years of track record.  It's individual societies responsibility to care for their own Freedom.
  
• And even in the U.S. there are powerful forces
  that would thwart the legitimate aspirations of ordinary people in
  places like Iran. LOL that includes those who purchased OBAMA's postion.
• People should NOT forget that the Democrats - yes the
  Obama adminstration has freed over 100 Million people from Tunisia to
  Yemen. Its clear what the Democrats stand for. 
  LOL especially after Khomeini and MeK recently.

You are a Victim of serious propaganda, if you can hold any of those views with a straight face.  In the last 4 Years the USA caused a serious global credit crunch and in co-operation with the Europeans sent over 800 Million people into extreme povery, god only knows how many hundreds of thousands of people died of starvation.  You forgot to mention OBAMA is a recipient of the Nobel Peace prize, that'll come in pretty handy as the Democrats support extremists and demonize those who oppose them. : )  

With all due respect,

The definition of fact(s) which you are familiar with, for lack of a better PG13 word, is plain wrong.

Show me a "fact" in these 3 paragraphs of rampant ramblings:

Hopefully the facts will come out soon enough - and not 20 years from now like the October Surprise in 1980 when the Republicans alligned with the Mullahs in Iran to humiliate Carter - with the U.S. embassy hostages in Tehran.

Raddatz asked: "Wasn't this a massive intelligence failure?" Did she mean that the U.S. does not have people inside Israel's Mossad? (It's long been known that Israelis have people inside America's intelligence system).  Was Raddatz hinting that she knew that the Israelis were behind this too?

Its clear that Romney and Netenyahu are old buddies, and Bibi Netenyahu has clearly entered into America's election with the death of U.S. diplomats. And Romney, like Ronald Reagan in 1980 is clearly behind this with Bibi.   

Stop already with this Israel this Israel that!  True that there are bunch of super rich Jews in New York and LA.  True that they all are active in the political arena.  But for every 1 Jew in this category there are 30 Christians.

Why don't folks like you hang from the testicle of Christian rich as you do with the Jews?

Give it up buddy....if Jews had as much power as you and people like you want the rest of us to believe, they be ruling the world and then some.

Jews are just like you and me.  They want to protect their ass and their family's ass.  To that end, they will do anything.  Hopefully you will do the same for your family too.

Instead of moaning and complaining about the damn Jews, think of a way to unite the Iranians and have them establish a lobby to influence law makers.  

God knows Iranians have lived in the U.S for long enough and there are enough rich amongst them to create a lobbying entity such as AIPAC.

You always seem to be smoking good stuff ... BC bud?

Bad Stories for Bad Kids

Romney Should Be Arrested

So a bunch of "wankers" paid for by you know who - come on IC and comment that all this is garbage. But you simply have to look at facts. Its facts that dominate - NOT - these wankers.

Hopefully the facts will come out soon enough - and not 20 years from now like the October Surprise in 1980 when the Republicans alligned with the Mullahs in Iran to humiliate Carter - with the U.S. embassy hostages in Tehran.

Raddatz asked: "Wasn't this a massive intelligence failure?" Did she mean that the U.S. does not have people inside Israel's Mossad? (It's long been known that Israelis have people inside America's intelligence system).  Was Raddatz hinting that she knew that the Israelis were behind this too?

Its clear that Romney and Netenyahu are old buddies, and Bibi Netenyahu has clearly entered into America's election with the death of U.S. diplomats. And Romney, like Ronald Reagan in 1980 is clearly behind this with Bibi.  

Romney should be arrested this. He is at least an accessory, and more likely the schemer with Bibi. Obama should show up at the next debate with police to arrest Romney. That is how it should dealt with and these Republic shenanigans will stop for ever.

Its absolutely dispicable. Democrats should not give an inch. And again, this is NOT about Democrats vs Republicans - this is about democracy in the United States of America. US is the last beacon of hope people in countries like Iran have for liberation or freedom. The Europeans for sure could not care less about freedom anywhere else. And even in the U.S. there are powerful forces that would thwart the legitimate aspirations of ordinary people in places like Iran. People should NOT forget that the Democrats - yes the Obama adminstration has freed over 100 Million people from Tunisia to Yemen. Its clear what the Democrats stand for.

These Republicans working with Netenyahu are scum. Americans , Iranians, the world should NOT stand for this.

Disturbed and Very Twisted

Very disturbed and twisted, inscrutable and fatuous. Paroxysms of rage at its best. Spurious example of author’s familiar babble and tattle as a political analyst and commentator.  Advice for all IC crowd: watching the VPs debate may prevent you to cogitate!    

Watch the VP debate

and burp a new conspiracy theory.

Un-friggin-believable!

Dude, get a hold

of yourself and reality.  Next you'll blame Israel for excess abdominal gas even though you finished a bowl of Adassi appetizer and Loobia for main course.

Israel could easily rule the planet if it could actually do everything some Iranians attribute to it.