Iranian-Americans Beware: Norwegian terrorist’s Ideology not too distant from US far right Tea Party

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The Norwegian police charged a 32-year-old man on Saturday, who was identified by the Norwegian media as Anders Behring Breivik on charges related to bombing government building in central oslo, and a second shooting incident on an island 20 miles away – that resulted in over 90 deaths. Breivik has been identified as a "Christian fundamentalist with right-wing connections," according to the Times, as well as with anti-Muslim views, according to multiple sources.

Religious views: According to the BBC, Breivik has a Facebook and Twitter account that he set up a mere few days ago on July 17, where he identifies himself as a Christian and a conservative. There are several reports of his anti-Muslim views. In a post in Norwegian in an online forum on December 2009, a user named Anders Behring Breivik claims there is not one country where Muslims have peacefully lived with non-Muslims, stating that instead it has had "catastrophic consequences" for non-Muslims.

Political views: The Daily Mail reports that National police chief Sveinung Sponheim told public broadcaster NRK that the suspected gunman's internet postings "suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but if that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen." Furthermore, the Norwegian daily Verdens Gang quoted a friend as saying Breivik became a rightwing extremist in his late 20s.Frank Mersland, a journalist with FVN TV, says Breivik has been linked to the anti-immigration Progress party.

He wrote to Guardian via email:The suspect, Anders Behring Breivik, has been tagged as a former member of the right winged political party Frp (Progress party). It's the second largest political party in Norway and their main issues are lower taxes and a much stricter policy on immigration. The Frp-leader, Siv Jensen, verified his membership on Norwegian TV2 a little while ago.

A Norwegian analyst said : “I think this is in some ways, for Americans, reminiscent of both Oklahoma City and Virginia Tech (historic acts of terrorism carried out by homegrown attackers), and I think in a country like Norway, quite a shocking and horrific set of attacks”. I actually think Brevik’s ideology is not so distant from Tea Party (and Republican Party) leaders. Let’s see what Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachman have to say on similar topics:Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich's commented during a recent GOP debate comparing Muslims to Nazis. Gingrich’s affinity for religious freedom and his belief in God-given rights it would seem, doesn’t extend to Americans who are Muslim. Such outright bigotry and blatant hypocrisy from Gingrich, an avid historian and former college professor, is even more repulsive when you consider his reasoning. Gingrich’s paranoia that “America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization,” one must delve deeply into the polarizing, overzealous and paranoid minds of professional Muslim-baiters and the politicians who depend on their support and cater to their illiberal demands.

There was a also a recent report by the Center for Security Policy titled “Shariah: The Threat to America,” authored by a team billing itself as “Team B II” (in reference to the 1970s Team B notorious for its alarmist and now-discredited estimates of Soviet military capabilities)Here are some of their policy recommendations (p. 143 of the report):“…extend bands currently in effect that bar members of hate groups such as the Ku Klux Klan from holding positions of trust in federal, state, or local governments or the armed forces of the United States to those who espouse or support shariah.”“Practices that promote shariah – notably, shariah-compliant finance and the establishment or promotion in public spaces or with public funds of facilities and activities that give preferential treatment to shariah’s adherents – are incompatible with the Constitution and the freedoms it enshrines and must be proscribed.”“Sedition is prohibited by law in the United States. To the extent that imams and mosques are being used to advocate shariah in America, they are promoting seditious activity and should be warned that they will not be immune from prosecution.”“Immigrations of those who adhere to shariah must be precluded, as was previously done with adherents to the seditious ideology of communism.”This report was endorsed by Michele Bachman who also added on a recent campaign visit to Iowas, that  agrees with Republican Rep. Steve King, an immigration hard-line.

Bottom line, if you are an Iranian-American beware. The Republican Party is dead set at humiliating Obama, dragging the nation into fiscal bankruptcy, and emerging out of the economic chaos as the new party in charge. And this same party’s leadership endorse the views of Brevik.

If you don’t believe me, read this analysis from Rupert Murdoch’s Fox news, they have the audacity to blame Brevik actions, who is a right wing Christian, blond, blue eyed …wait for it …on Islam. //www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/07/22/how-to-make-sense-what-happened-in-oslo/

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vildemose

just as I thought:So

by vildemose on Sun Jul 24, 2011 04:23 PM PDT

just as I thought:

So while he say Hitler may have over reacted just a little bit in killing the Jews instead of deporting them, Anders does acknowledge that Adolph solved the "Jewish problem."

""Today’s conservatives and want-to-be Nazis are ignorant when they obsess so much over the Jews. There is no Jewish problem in Western Europe (with the exception of the UK and France) as we only have 1 million in Western Europe, whereas 800 000 out of these 1 million live in France and the UK. The US on the other hand, with more than 6 million Jews (600% more than Europe) actually has a considerable Jewish problem.""

//www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/24/998102/-Oslo-Shooter-Manifesto:-Exterminate-The-Liberal-Fascists?via=siderec

what a lunatic!


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Soosan Khanoom

“White Alqaeda”

by Soosan Khanoom on Sun Jul 24, 2011 03:38 PM PDT


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vildemose

He probably would have been

by vildemose on Sun Jul 24, 2011 03:34 PM PDT

He probably would have been a Nazi if he had lived in that era.

One of his main intellectual supporter is a rabid holocaust deniar and anti-semite...

//www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/24/998052/-UPDATED:-Right-Wing-DEFENDS-Anders-Behring-Breivik?via=siderec

 

His name is Kevin MacDonald, Professor of Psychology at Cal State Long Beach, writing on the conservative eZine Alternative Right,  admires Anders Breivik for his analytic skills and clarity of thought...


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پندارنیک

Thanks

by پندارنیک on Sun Jul 24, 2011 03:28 PM PDT

.


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vildemose

PN:

by vildemose on Sun Jul 24, 2011 03:27 PM PDT


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Soosan Khanoom

BiBi Yaboo

by Soosan Khanoom on Sun Jul 24, 2011 03:23 PM PDT

Does not call them bad jews. he calls them " self hated jews " ...

The difference between this Norway Guy and BiBi Yaboo is that he did not get any invitation to the U.S congress to make a fool of every single Neocons over there .... 


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پندارنیک

Sun Jul 24, 2011 at 05:25

by پندارنیک on Sun Jul 24, 2011 03:20 PM PDT

Link doesn't open for me. Anyone?


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vildemose

Sun Jul 24, 2011 at 05:25

by vildemose on Sun Jul 24, 2011 03:15 PM PDT

Sun Jul 24, 2011 at 05:25 AM PDT

UPDATED: Right Wing DEFENDS Anders Behring Breivik

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vildemose

He described Jews as good

by vildemose on Sun Jul 24, 2011 03:04 PM PDT

He described Jews as good jews and bad jews....

He divides Jews into the good Jews and the Jews who are part of the liberal movement. His good Jews live in Israel, but he says  the bad Jews are part of the race mixing liberals, who need to be exterminated.


Download his manifesto.

p.s. He is also a mass murdering plagarizer, typical of right-wingers, fake diplomas and degrees, etc.

 //www.balloon-juice.com/2011/07/24/mass-murdering-plagarizer/


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Disenchanted

Norway killer had aired pro zionist views (check the news)!

by Disenchanted on Sun Jul 24, 2011 02:43 PM PDT

 

       //www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=230762

      "So let us fight together with Israel, with our zionist brothers"

     


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salman farsi

Brother CoP

by salman farsi on Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:47 PM PDT

 

Did you read the rest of my comment? Or are you high again :) 

 For an Islamic democracy


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Cost-of-Progress

Salman, whatup?

by Cost-of-Progress on Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:35 PM PDT

Man, I go away for a while and your true identity surfaces....but the background of your flag should be green to be a true Wahabi, you know.

As for your reference to no such thing as "religious" terrorist......where do you get the stuff you smoke before you start posting your mumbo jumbo here? I want some. 

Besides, the perfect example are your trubanned idols occupying Iran now, These cockroaches are all terrorists with their main victims being the naive people of Iran.

Afwan...

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IRAN FIRST

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salman farsi

Brother Raoul

by salman farsi on Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:22 PM PDT

I am sure you are clever enough to understand what I meant. It is clear from the text of my comment that I meant terrorist and not terrotist (r and t are next to each other on my keyboard brother).

 For an Islamic democracy


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Raoul1955

salman

by Raoul1955 on Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:56 AM PDT

You are so right: There is no such an entity as a terrotist.  We all agree with you.  :-)

allah is akbar to you now.


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salman farsi

There is no such thing as Islamic or Christian terrotist

by salman farsi on Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:29 AM PDT

All three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) have unequivocally forbidden acts of terrorism and therefore by definition there cannot be a Muslim, Christian or Jewish terrorist..

vassalam. 

 For an Islamic democracy


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ayatoilet1

Rea Jan - Norwegian Justice is Weird

by ayatoilet1 on Sun Jul 24, 2011 05:47 AM PDT

According to several newspaper reports, the maximum sentence you can get in Norway is 21 years. He could be out by the time his is 53 years old. I just can't believe these reports, and I am wondering if there are and iranian.com readers that live in Norway and can comment on whether these reports are true?


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Rea

Can't comment on the US

by Rea on Sun Jul 24, 2011 05:08 AM PDT

..... only those living there know how it is really.

However, as far as this guy is concerned, there have been many theories. Extreme right, X-n fundamentalist, Mossad behind, well, name it.

IMHO, a deranged mind. Just as those blowing themselves up in the middle of public places are deranged. No ideology, religion, or whatever can justify such a horrible crime.

People like him should be locked away, for life. For once, I'd welcome American justice whereby you get a sentence for every victim. In his case, it would total +2000 years. 


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Soosan Khanoom

Tavana

by Soosan Khanoom on Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:45 PM PDT

I hate to argue with you over this but there is no mocking going on here . Some Akhoonds just talk Shit and they should be called Ayatoliet rather than ayatallah .... 

and no one here thinks of verses of quran when read this user ID but just the word sign .... 

Now .. take a breath and relax .... only fools take themselves so seriously ..   

his user ID and his avatar are seriously funny !!!

The kind of humor I like is the thing that makes me laugh for five seconds and think for ten minutes.   William Davis 


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Tavana

Friendly Advice 2

by Tavana on Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:20 PM PDT

Sorry for the typo error of the word Friendly Advice 1 below. With all the due respect 'Ayat' also means 'Verse' like any Ayat of any Surah in Ghoran. Moslem is ONLY & ONLY a 'title.' Momen, on the other hand, means  'believer' who is known ONLY & ONLY by GOD. Tavana is not here to debate these matters with nobody, nevertheless. Your user name is implying hatred toward the book, even though unintentional, to non-Iranians Moslems' views. Labelling others, with your reasonings, especially the whole group of people is 100% wrong & for sure is not going to work in fighting with Akhoonds. Nothing more to argue with here & therefore wishing all the best to come & thanks again for everybody's patience with the remarks. Always.

'Believers, do not let people mock other people who may be better than themselves. Do not let women mock women, who may be better than themselves. Do not find fault with one another, nor abuse one another with (offensive) nicknames. An evil name is disobedience after belief (Quran, Ayat 11 of Surah 49)'


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ayatoilet1

Tavana-Jan, Rest Assured

by ayatoilet1 on Sat Jul 23, 2011 07:36 PM PDT

The Ayatoilet writers ID is not in anyway designed to offend muslims. I am a muslim myself, though I have to say, not very religious. I do intend to degrade the Akhoonds in power in Iran. And I mean the name as I explained below in farsi. The way it is written or connected there is no offense to God...or to Muslims, but a real indication of what the akhoonds are doing to all of us and Iran...

Anyway, I respect your point of view. And please understand, that a little naming controversy, does help in pushing the message forward to where people actually notice it.


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Soosan Khanoom

Tavana

by Soosan Khanoom on Sat Jul 23, 2011 06:46 PM PDT

Ayat means sign.  Nothing less or more . It is a word and there is no God attached to it. Now you can use this word , attach it to the word God and call something a sign of God or as it was explained by the blogger here you can use it and attach it to the toilet and call this sign to be something from toilet  ... 

actually I like the blogger's explanation of his user ID ...  

 Ayat-Toliet is what some clergies are cause they are anything but Ayat-Allah...

I do not see the blogger here offending God, any holly book or religion but the clergies and some of them really deserve it ...... 

 


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Tavana

A Freindly Advice

by Tavana on Sat Jul 23, 2011 06:18 PM PDT

As a thank you gesture for your today's valuable writings about the Norway incident & for providing all the related fine links, reminding you that there are an estimated 1.3 billions Muslims in the world who believe in GOD & ascribe 'Allah' to his name. Ayat in Arabic means either a 'sign' or a 'verse' sent by GOD in Torah, Bible, & Koran. Akhoonds could call themselves anything they want to. They have to answer to GOD for their actions one by one. No doubt. But attaching Allah's name by a wise person like you means insulting Muslims with their faiths. Doesn't it? Thanks again.

PS: Could use the following keyboard site to type Farsi & then do copy & paste on comments section of IC.

//www.linguanaut.com/farsi_keyboard.htm

 


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ayatoilet1

Tavana Jan ...midani ke

by ayatoilet1 on Sat Jul 23, 2011 05:13 PM PDT

(Keyboarde Farsi Nadaram)

Ba kamale ehteram, midani ke in regime rideh be Iran, rideh be Din, rideh be Iraniha ... rideh be har chizi ke baraye mardom arzesh dareh ....ridan be time melli (football mardha va zanan), ridan be varzesh, ridan be abero va heysiate iraniha, ridan be daneshgaha ...hamintori daem mirinan. In akhoonda daem to kare ridan hastan. Ba dahaneshoon mirinan, ba amaleshoon mirinan... va midani ke badaneshoon boye mostara ham mideh!

 

Kholaseh, in Ayatollaha dar vaghe daem dar toalet hastan. Makhsoosan ham migan toalet (na mostarah) chon daran kesafat kari haye Englisha ra mikonan. Raftan to mostarahe farangi ...yani Toalet. Ayatollaha shodan Ayatoilet?

 

Be unhayi ke movafeghe in regime hastan (akhonzadeh hai ke blog minivisan, va pasdara va basiji ha, va nokarashonn) yek soal dareem: Aya unha ham mikhan beran be Toalet? Aya toilet??

 

Shookhi nist - kheliham onvane nevisandeh jedie.  


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Tavana

آیا توالت؟

Tavana
Sat Jul 23, 2011 04:27 PM PDT

عنوان نویسنده را درست بخوانیم میشود: آیا توالت؟


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ayatoilet1

Raoul1955 - you have to ask yourself a basic question

by ayatoilet1 on Sat Jul 23, 2011 02:58 PM PDT

Why did the crazy guy go after the congress woman ...and not someone else?

 

I don't think its ideologically liberal to say it had something to do with her pro-immigrant views in a state (Arizona) where the far right has polarized the immigration debate. Its this same type of irresponsible politics that leads these crazy guys to their mental limits and to go on a shooting rampage. These right wing politicians fan the flames - to get votes and this is what happens. Its very, very irresponsible. And really unnecessary... the Dutch did the right thing by holding Gert Wilders accountable for "hate language" and he found himself in court. IF only they did that in the U.S. to Newt Gingrich or the new Tea Party crowd that is emerging from Palin to Bachman. This is NOT a liberal ideological view point, this is about people in public positions acting responsibly...regardless of their political views.


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ayatoilet1

This is interesting ...

by ayatoilet1 on Sat Jul 23, 2011 02:47 PM PDT

Turns out the spokesman for Norway's Progress Party (right of center party that Beivik was a member of) has an Iranian Name: Mazyar Keshvari!! He is quoted in this article.

//news.yahoo.com/norway-police-arrive-90-minutes-firing-began-205033309.html

And to the bloggers that say my ID is not serious ...why so?? I think the the Mullahs in Iran are shiting on Iran, shiting on Islam, shiting on Iranians..no? Ayatoilets. No?? Very serious??!! NO??!! Most of my blogs are serious and from time to time, I'll include a joke or two. But they should be worth a glance!  


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Raoul1955

A few months ago

by Raoul1955 on Sat Jul 23, 2011 02:35 PM PDT

When a crazy man opened fire on bunch of folks in AZ we also noticed that liberals started making all sorts of claims about him being a ...


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Disenchanted

Humanity in CROSSFIRE!

by Disenchanted on Sat Jul 23, 2011 01:50 PM PDT

 

        Some fringe lunatic Muslims against some bonehead racist & anti Muslim right wings have the whole civilization in their cross-hairs! Bigotry of some knuckleheads in Republican party toward Muslims while embracing absurdities of Bible is nauseating!

      Nice quotes by SK! Lets see if someone jumps in and relates this to NIAC! I double the suggestion that a blog like this deserves a better name for the blogger!

       Toward a N. Korea future for Iran under Rajavi leadership! Horray...

 


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amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Time For A New Phrase

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:25 PM PDT

Christian Fundamentalist Terrorist.

And that was the worst opinion ever from fox news, implying the cause is muslims. 


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vildemose

The European reports on the

by vildemose on Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:43 AM PDT

The European reports on the suspect, such as in the Telegraph, point out that the suspect is a fundamentalist Christian.  Somehow, the Daily News decided to withhold that tidbit.  If he had been a convert to Islam, do you think they would have left that out?  


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