Gulf clash: Doesn't sound like Persian accent

Bahram
by Bahram
08-Jan-2008
 

I've listened to the recording that the US Navy "claims" came from the Iranian boat in the recent clash between US and Iranian boats in the Persian Gulf. The recording can be heard at this BBC link:
//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7177946.stm

If you ask me, I don't think it sounds like a Persian accent at all. I think it sounds like an American doing a very bad impersonation of some middle eastern guy. Let's not forget that Iranians typically pronounce "w" as
"v". So the statement "you will explode" would sound like "you vill
explode" and we also can't say "explode" we would say something like "
expelode". But the guy in the recording doesn't say it that way.

I'm curious what Iranian.com readers think? Listen to the recording and post your opinion if you want. If you ask me, this whole incident sounds
similar to the "gulf of Tonkin incident", which you can read about
here: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Of_Tonkin.

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barefoot

I agree

by barefoot on

I agree, the accent does not sound Iranian at all.  I've watched that footage over and over again, and the more I listen to it, the more fake and even cartoonish that voice sounds.  It also seems very odd that the American voices are fuzzy, despite the fact that the video camera is right there to record them, yet the Iranian voice, which is supposedly coming in through the radio, is loud and clear.  I also like how all this is so conveniently timed with Bush's visit to the Middle East.

We can sit here and discuss this amongst ourselves 'til we turn blue, but there will no consequences unless the mainstream media questions and investigates the authenticity of the audio portion of the recording.  (Are there any Iranian-American journalists out there??)  The next best thing is to contact mainstream media outlets and encourage them to investigate this issue.  I know it's a long shot, but it's a start.


Farzin

Agree

by Farzin on

The accent seemed odd to me when I first heard it.  So I played it again and it sure sounded like a young mid-westerner.  I can't accept that a pasdar, riding in a fast moving boat bouncing around, will speak such proper english with an american accent.


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It's all about oil!

by naft (not verified) on

As usual, this administration always applies the policy of "fear" to advance its devilish agenda. This incident was invented just before Bush's visit to the region so he can scare the neighboring Arabs and sell them his evil schemes. The plan is to portray Iranians as a dangerous bully in the region, so Arabs should accept the American presence in the Persian Gulf to counter the Iranian threat for many many years. Believe me, it's all about oil.


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Boats

by A B (not verified) on

It doesn't matter who it was, the U S Navy should have blown those boats out of the water.


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how can this be?

by Anonymoushimooshi (not verified) on

I find it hard to believe that those idiots can speak English. The fact they have been and are doing crazy things is totally imaginable and expected, but speaking English? them? no. It could be some other nations in disguised.


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To Fariborz Malek Mohammade, MD

by Shaboon Ba Mokh (not verified) on

Koondeh khar! Do you have to leave such long responses? Khob jendeh write short and only once. How many times I tell you? Go and look for a job! now you act like that othe stupid ass JAMSHID, LOOOOL


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Don't believe it

by Alborzi (not verified) on

its true that many Iranians speak with imperceptible
accent, but generally (at least the Iranian pilots and Air traffic controllers ) speak with heavy accent, let alone the pasdars, they must be so heavy you can tell them from a mile.
And now after all the LIES in Iraq, NIE and .... do you still believe these guys. In law we say these guys have perjured themselves and they cannot be ever trusted.


Kaveh Nouraee

The Accent is Meaningless

by Kaveh Nouraee on

I know many Iranians who speak English with absolutely no trace of an accent whatsoever. Also, don't forget that the Shah spoke English with a lot of British inflections.

Could the tape be faked? Anything's possible. But just as much it could be faked, it could be a couple of idiots who speak English fluently whose idea of a good time is to taunt U.S. Navy vessels, knowing the rules of engagement.


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America must leave Persian Gulf

by Nationalist (not verified) on

American Navy with enough bombs to blow the entire world is all around the shallow waters of the Persian Gulf. They not only threaten the lives and livelihood of the region, but also pollute the environment. They have absolutely no RIGHT to the region. Persian Gulf is not their territory and they must leave. Regardless of this incident, the Americans and westerners being there is lawless and against our national interest and sovereignty. If you think that the American Navy is not causing problems, or they are not spying on the regional countries, you are wrong. They are thousands of miles away from their land and have no business bossing Iranians around while in the Iranian turf. I believe that we must take this issue seriously and demand the American forces to leave the region immediately. Our lives and blood is as valuable as any Europeans, and they will never allow such foreign forces by their borders, people won't allow it. We should not either.


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Many Arab mercenaries are

by Anonymous13 (not verified) on

Many Arab mercenaries are members of the IRGC in the region because they speak Arabic. Many of torturers in IRan are Lebanese Hizballah...for example.


programmer craig

Naive?

by programmer craig on


You would have to be naive to believe the garbage that comes from these criminals.

You didn't notice that the Islamic Republic has already admitted the incident happened, but is only now claiming the video and audio is fabricated?

You aren't aware of the many other incidents in the waters that Iran calims are in it's territory, which includes the whole Indian Ocean, teh South China Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Straits of Hormuz and possibly even the Missisippi River?

What do you call somebody who denies an obvious truth? Not naive. Delusional, perhaps?

Anyway, the issue on the table is not whether or not the incident happened, but whether or not the video and audio evidence is legit. Has the Islamic Republic offerred up any of their own video or audio to refute it? I know they do take video on their ops, because they sure had plenty of video of those British sailors when they were captured, didn't they?

Lets see it. So we can compare.

 

 

 

 


MRX

Agree

by MRX on

listened twice and it does not sound like Iranian accent at all. More like some one faking mid east accent. Not to say the regime is not capable of doing this stuff.


farokh2000

More lies, of course

by farokh2000 on

By now, an average educated person should realize, looking back at the history of this U.S. administration, that they would lie about anything and to anyone to brain wash the public.

You would have to be naive to believe the garbage that comes from these criminals.

This is not to defend the criminal Mullahs, who are just as skillful at brain washing the public but just to point out that you need to have more facts before you can believe these people here.

Just look at their criminal record in the last 7 years in Office, where they lied and forced their way into.

I am sure if there is justice at the World Court, they will all be convicted of War Crimes after they finish their miserable time in office. They are swimming in the blood of Millions of innocent people.


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Other Possibilities?!!!

by Devil's Advocate (not verified) on

I know that everyone is jumping on the "fabrication" band wagon, but I want to offer a couple of alternative explanations. I have listened to the recording, and the accent does sound a little Arabic or Beluchi. There are various other possibilities for this: 1) Iran does have a sizeable Arab and Beluchi minority population and it could be that the person on the radio was from one of those regions of Iran; 2) It is a well known fact that the IRGC has many Arabs in its ranks, mainly South Lebanese Shias, and the guy on the radio could be one of those. This actually makes more sense since those guys will be more provocative against the U.S. and will jump an opportunity to conduct an operation like that.


Mehdi-Palang

sad dar sad!

by Mehdi-Palang on

Bahram jan I agree with your sentiments completely.  The first time I heard the audio the accent struck me as being odd.  The person who is speaking draws out the words slowly and the intonation does not even sound persian. 

 (I like your historical analysis on the Gulf of Tonkin) 


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The radio dude is not Iranian

by XerXes (not verified) on

1-That's not an Iranian accent.
2-That's Iranian waters
3-Hormoz blongs to Iran
3-no other nation except sisi Arabs and Westernized Iranian would agree with the Western agrression to be in the Iranian waters and regional control
4-Iranian live there and have a Right to cause hassle for the Persian Gulf occupiers
5-What the hell are the Americans doing with all those war ships 8000 miles away from their shore?
6-Iranian have balls, so don't mess with us!


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REPLY : IRREFUTABLE??

by Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on

I think it is most irrational to discuss the audio/video fake. the fact is that warships of strangers has nothing to search in waters which are thousands of miles away from thier "home". it must be most clear - of course only from a neutral and logical point of view - that devils are come to provocate. Now please acknowledge the following: IRGC: US Navy audio, video fake
Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:51:52
IRGC says the US video of Sunday's incident in Hormuz Strait involving Iran patrol boats and US ships is archive footage and the audio is fake.

A member of the Navy Forces of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) told Press TV on Wednesday that the footage released by the US Navy had been compiled using file pictures and the audio had been fabricated.

Earlier Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Mohammad-Ali Hosseini said the incident was a normal identification request by the Iranian side.

Hosseini explained that exchanging messages to identify ships in the Persian Gulf is routine.

Washington earlier claimed that IRGC speedboats harassed three US Navy warships in the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday.

The US Navy later released footage purportedly showing Iranian boats menacing US Navy ships in the Persian Gulf.
Now it is up to eachperson her/himself which side they want to believe. I for my part just whish that those on the doors of the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN standing devils and little tiny satans all barking and grunting should only dare to behave realy respectless against honored Iranian nation - for me count to that nation the ones who have founded thier ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN, are living there and are willing to protect what they have achieved in the last 30 years - and just come in and we will all see none the rats goes home on its own legs. I regret only that they know it too well and that is because they have not dared to come in yet. Greeting


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REPLY : IRREFUTABLE??

by Farbors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on

I think it is most irrational to discuss the audio/video fake. the fact is that war ships of strangers has nothing to search in waters which are thousands of miles away from thier "home". it must be most clear - of course only from a neutral and logical point of view - that devils are come to provocate. Now please acknowledge the following: IRGC: US Navy audio, video fake
Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:51:52
IRGC says the US video of Sunday's incident in Hormuz Strait involving Iran patrol boats and US ships is archive footage and the audio is fake.

A member of the Navy Forces of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) told Press TV on Wednesday that the footage released by the US Navy had been compiled using file pictures and the audio had been fabricated.

Earlier Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Mohammad-Ali Hosseini said the incident was a normal identification request by the Iranian side.

Hosseini explained that exchanging messages to identify ships in the Persian Gulf is routine.

Washington earlier claimed that IRGC speedboats harassed three US Navy warships in the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday.

The US Navy later released footage purportedly showing Iranian boats menacing US Navy ships in the Persian Gulf.
Now it is up to persons themselves which side they want to believe. I for my part just whish that the on the doorsof the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN standing devils and little tiny satans all barking and grunting should only dare to behave realy respectless against honored Iranian nation - for me count to that nation the ones who have founded thier ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN, are living there and are willing to protect what they have achieved in the last 30 years - and just come in and we will all see none the rats goes home on its own legs. I regret only that they know it too well and that is because they have not dared to come in. Greeting


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Faribors Maleknasri "M.D."

by V. Yazdanmehr (not verified) on

"Faribors" or whatever your name is:

First, stop wasting everyone's time by commenting on every article with your b.s.

Second, can you tell everyone what kind of a doctor you are, and where your office is located? Because you sound like an uneducated bafoon and we want to make sure that you are who you say you are.

Third, if you really were a doctor, you wouldn't have the time to write page long responses in broken English to every article on this site!


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REPLY : IRAN; THE PROVOCATORE??

by Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on

they come from thousands of mile along and if they are asked about thier identification, so they produce at once thier Video and say the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN provocates. And thier agents all over the world say and write the same. And one can also in "IRANIAN" read the Mullahs destroy even the last pieces of the country in order that nothing should be left heal when they are away. Now please acknowledge the following:
The National Security Agency (NSA) reveals that Washington had faked an attack on US destroyers to sharply escalate the Vietnam War.
In a report recently issued in response to a 'mandatory declassification' request, the NSA retold the history of the Vietnam War from the perspective of 'signals intelligence'.
The NSA, which is responsible for much of the United States' codebreaking and eavesdropping, exposed information that indicates the reported North Vietnamese attack on American destroyers was indeed a scam.
The then US Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara had told Congress that the evidence of an attack was 'unimpeachable' in a bid to force the then US president Lyndon Johnson to sharply increase the presence of American forces in Vietnam.
This is while the review of the classified signals intelligence proves that 'no attack happened that night', the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) said Monday.
"It's a dramatic reversal of the historical record," AFP quoted Steven Aftergood, director of the FAS project on government secrecy, as saying.
As one can immediately see the not soo great any more satan - since long laying in its death bed - can only try the old trics. It means not more and not less than the fact that: Its days are count. Greeting


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irrefutable video ???

by Anonymous Chicken (not verified) on

From which century do you come from?


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The irrefutable video

by Anonymous. (not verified) on

The insurmountable problem with your conjecture is that unlike the Tonkin incident, there is a irrefutable video of this incident.


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go Iranian Navy go

by Another lost iranian in France (not verified) on

hell yea !


Kouroush Sassanian

These incidents happen all the time, but

by Kouroush Sassanian on

there is no mention of any exp[e]losi[jeen]ons. The two Navys taunt each other all the time and eventually go about their merry way.