Best Of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

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by bahram9821
17-Dec-2008
 

President Ahmadinejad's most memorble clips. Look at him working the crowd like a Rock Star.

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killjoy.....

by YT (not verified) on

You say And then many wonder why Iran is such a backward country!

I was gonna let this one slide, but I'll be damned if I let such an ignorance, such arrogance and such narcissistic self appreciation slide by, without giving it a piece of my mind.

So, according to you, If in Iran, they did not know whether Giorgio Armani had sexual relationship with his Sister, and if they did not know which one of the over priced pieces of RAG got influenced by which, they are back ward??????

Let me tell you one thing my self-proclaimed intellectual and fashion GURU, in a country which has been ruled under UZI, and under one of the worst dictatorial regimes in recent history, where majority of people STRUGGLE on daily basis for UNIMPORTANT issues such as, FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER.

In a country where women are BRUTALLY ATTACKED, BELITTLED, IMPRISONED, RAPPED, by IRI goons for merely having flock of their hair visible from underneath scarves.

In a country where minors and EXECUTED for crimes such as homosexuality, or any other crime for that fact.

In a country where close to 60%(not verified) of population lives WELL BELOW POVERTY LINE. With unemployment rate of close to 20% and inflation rate of close to 18%.

In a country where young men are arrested, beaten, raped, imprisoned, for CRIME of self expression such as tight jeans and long hair, or tight T-Shirts.

In a country where HUMAN LIFE and DIGNITY has , almost NO VALUE.

In a country which daily necessities & services such as ELECTRIC, WATER, & etc are RATIONED................

According to you THIS country is backward because they MIGHT or MIGHT not know which designer used what freaking color scheme for this fall???????

Sir/Madame Your ignorance and detachment from REALITIES of live borderlines stupidity to say the least SIR.

Good day
-YT


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Yaa Gorbeyeh Morezaa Ali!

by Killjoy (not verified) on

And then many wonder why Iran is such a backward country!


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To our self-proclaimed fashion GURU - killjoy

by YT (not verified) on

Dear Fashion Guru-killjoy

That is my exact point....... stick to what you know, in this case fashion. Leave serious dialogues and conversations for GROWN UPS.

And you bet, anytime I need a Personal Shopper(if you what it means) I shall most definitely give u a buzzer.

cheers dude,
-YT

p/s.... I wear traditional suit-pants


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YT,

by Killjoy (not verified) on

You wrote:

"Good thing you told me this, but let me ask you why would you not respond??
Does it UPSET you when someone catches you in a blunder? Or perhaps it is because you THINK you are one of those KNOW-IT-All? Or even perhaps a sorry combination of both???"

As Bob Dylan said in his song: "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall"

"But I'll know my song well before I start singin'."

When I tell you, I know about fashion you must believe me!

I do not need to refer to Wikipedia and I can tell you the following and more. I know more about fashion than many other things.

I can talk about the world of fshion for hours only because it's one of my hobbies to learn about it.

I can tell you about Giorgio Armani, Gianni Versace, Gucci, Fragamo, etc. without referring to Wikipedia.

I can tell you using Arabic writings was done long ago by Issac Mizrahi.

I can talk about John Galliano's disastrous attempt at selling clothes with newspaper prints on them several years ago.

I can tell you the reasons why Louis Vuiton's sales have dropped in some countries and not in North America.

I can tell you about two Louis Vuiton boutiques in some corner of the world which have a combined annual sale of $160,000,000US.

I can tell you about the conspiracy theories the Italians have fashioned with regards to Gianni Versace's murder.

I can tell you about the sharp decline in Versace's sales in some countries in the world after his tragic death.

I can tell you why Hermes is so successful and talk about customers who wait for several years for some Hermes' bags.

I can talk about why Hilfigure's lines didn't last long in certain markets.

I can tell you when exactly Chanel decided to change some of its lines in order to increase its sales.

I can tell you the same about Coach and why and when the company decided to produce lighter bags.

I can tell you exactly which year Prada had the greatest sales ever and how it influenced other fashion houses.

I can tell you why designs change as quickly as they do.

I can tell you how the low-rise pants became popular.

I can tell you about Max Mara's top of the line coats.

I can talk about the ridiculous price tags on some Dolce and Gabana pieces.

I can tell you about Armani's influence on Ralph Lauren.

I can tell you about major fashion houses and how they are faring in different parts of the world.

I can tell you that Russians are the most welcomed customers in boutiques all over the world. The French like their money while despising them. The Italians take the money and enjoy the laugh to the bank. The Chinese want the market while the Russian White Supramacists hate other races altogether and have killed about a hundred of non-Russians in recent months. The Japanese are extremely jealous of their sudden success and Americans seem dumbfounded about the whole thing.

I can tell you much more and I can help you buy a whole wardrobe full of clothes in a matter of a few hours by only taking a look at your full-sized photo!

But based on your quote from Wikipedia, you seem to know more than I do!

And for the rest of your comment I only say:

Khoda rezgho roozito jaie digeh bedeh!


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killjoy

by YT (not verified) on

I usually do not get involved in childish games of name calling and stupid labeling games. I reserve that for arrogant know-nothings, who think [sharp tongue is sign of keen mind]. But since I see lot of frustration and desperation in your comment, trying to credit yourself and discredit my comment, I think you need to be brought up to par.

1. Joke or not,,, When one makes a comment, joke, satire or even insult one needs to be a bit careful not to make fool of him/herself by commenting on a totally irrelevant subject. i.e. Armani suites. I got your point in your original comment, trying to disqualify Ahmadinajad, However my friend, exaggeration like these[Armani suites] has an adverse effect on what you are trying to prove, and on yourself. These kinds of analogies and exaggerations are childish and are not to the point. The only thing they demonstrate is how shallow and desperate your compressions are.

2. Just FYI, there were in fact students who were in fact driven to school/colleges by their drivers. I should know, I did part of my under-grad work in Iran.

3. It is sign of a very backward and low [FARHANG] mind to even bring about subject of physical appearance.

When I read reactions like yours on this site to anything that is supposed to be a joke or satirical, I remember the chubby kid in the movie.

Tell me sir, what if that actor was a African-American, or any black person, would you have referred to him/her as[that Ni---o kid]?????

3. you say [Are you still in college?
If so,I think you'd better take some English courses before getting involved in a discussion of any kind....]

My friend have you heard the saying which goes like,,,[ When you assume you make an A$$ of both side], Unfortunately, seems like this time around you only were able to make an A$$ of yourself. Congrats my friend.

4. [Ordinarily I don't respond to comments like yours, so PLEASE do not try to get me involved in a debate about whether I know about the dismal economic situation of the Iranian college students before or after the revolution....]

Good thing you told me this, but let me ask you why would you not respond??

Does it UPSET you when someone catches you in a blunder?
Or perhaps it is because you THINK you are one of those KNOW-IT-All?
Or even perhaps a sorry combination of both???

Either case, Thanks for your response. You made me laugh, at least this time around.(WINK)

Have a wonderful day
-YT


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Jaleho........Becktel/Parsons Brinckhoff

by YT (not verified) on

Jaleho

1. Parsons Brinckhoff/ and her subsidiaries and subcontractors has always been in cahoots with Halliburton, through close ties and relations to GW Bush Administration and Dick Cheney

Ms. Kuhlman said it was too early to say whether the company would challenge the award, as it is allowed to do under federal regulations. Parsons had identified the Kellogg Brown & Root unit of Halliburton as a subcontractor in its bid. But Ms. Kuhlman said she did not know whether the controversy that has surrounded Halliburton -- where Vice President Dick Cheney served as chief executive until 2000 -- was a factor in the decision to reject Parsons. ''I hope not,'' she said.
//query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0...

[....Recently, the company has come under criticism for alleged mismanagement of the Big Dig project, illegal resource extraction in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, its financial links to the bin Laden family, and the manner in which it received Iraqi rebuilding contracts after the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. Politicians in the United States and in Europe have made accusations of cronyism between the George W. Bush administration and Bechtel....]

[..On January 23, 2008, it was reported that Bechtel/Parsons Brinckerhoff, the consortium that oversaw the project, would pay $407 million in restitution for its poor oversight of subcontractors (some of whom committed outright fraud), as well as primary responsibility in the death of a motorist...]

Major heavy-construction contractors on the project included Jay Cashman, Modern Continental, Obayashi Corporation, Perini Corporation, Peter Kiewit Sons' Incorporated, J.F. White, and the Slattery division of Skanska USA. (Of those, Modern Continental was awarded the greatest gross value of contracts, joint ventures included.)

Most if not all of these sub-contractors has been heavy contributors to and close allies with GW Bush administration, and Dick Cheney. Needless to say Mr. Cheney acted as chief executive of Halliburton for years.

2. you say[The tunnel under the street in Tehran, much smaller project of course, was made fantastically FAST and CHEAP in comparison, and it looks GREAT TOO....]
You my dear were the one who was giving the credit of Tehran Subway tunnel to Ahmadinejad, in your blind praise of the monkey.

Tehran Tunnel. originally was a project Shah-e-NOKAR started, the job was awarded to French companies, who abandoned the project after Akhund MUTINY. After few years of stalemate, Project was started back up with the help of group of young IRANIAN Civil Engineers, and Iranian contractors.

Corruption and lack of any regard for human life in IRI regime caused 100's death in the project. So my dear when you say the project was completed CHEAP, I can clearly see where you are coming from.

To top it all of, Your Mr. Ahmadijenad, in past 3 years, has been AWARDING every and ALL major infra-structure project to GENOCIDAL sazemane SEPAH. No contractor can sub-contract any project from these genocidal manics[SEPAH] without hefty BRIBES.

PROOF????? can you tell me who was awarded the automobile company(Sipa or what ever the freaking name of it is), after Ahmadinejad announced privatization of some of the industries?????

If you answered any body besides EX SARDAR E SEPAH (Ex commander in chief of GENOCIDAL sepah) you would be wrong.(for the life of me I can't remember the Chief GENOCIDAL Baboons name)

have a great day
-YT

P/S Doesn't Quran FORBID Bribe??????????????


Jaleho

PS to Killjoy,

by Jaleho on

BTW, thanks, I DID find your fashion wearing "rich bastard" come back on Ahmadinejad's humble origin statement funny.

I just found YT's trying to prove to you that not all of the universities, but maybe just "Melli" suffereing from the predicament you were talking about, by "PROVING" that Armani didn't start his fashion stuff untill 1975, and the fact that you should have checked your sources so you wouldn't make ridiculous statements.....much funnier :-) 


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Lackeys!

by Killjoy (not verified) on

I wouldn't be surprised if I found out your dad, uncle or your stepfather was one of Shah's ambassadors to some counrty.

You see, when it comes to the supporters of the regime there are several categories and you seem to belong to the most outspoken category. These are the supporters whose relatives served under the Shah and decided they wouldn't want to lose their status, so they turned into the current regime's lackeys, as well.

Fearful of losing their own satus, members of this group are among the most unreasonable and dangerous supporters of the regime. They would say or do anything to preserve the status quo.

Just go ahead and ask some of the real Muslims what they think about all the mumbo-jumbo you post on this site.

We can continue this talk after you've heard their views of yourself!

Good luck!


Jaleho

Killjoy. just because

by Jaleho on

some whiners and killjoy fringe Iranians over here have no self-esteem or pride in their country's achievement, it doesn't mean that MILLIONS of REAL Iranians consider Ahmadinejad's record as "disastrous!"

 

As you see in this very thread, as much as you try to spin realities (the millions who are shown enthusiastic about Ahmadinejad are brought there to escape school, etc!)....the fact is those millions who elected Ahmadinejad overwhelmingly, are the same people who are welcoming him en masse in this clip.

 

For those Iranians, Ahmadinejad, despite your dislike of his un-western-looking-hair-cut, is a loved leader. Ahmadinejad will go to history as a GREAT Iranian who not only did 8 years of sacrifice by defending Iran during the Iran-Iraq war, he was also THE PRESIDENT who stood steady on the face of the greatest world bully in defense of Iran's right to nuclear energy. His brave and strong foreign policy (demanded by Iranian poeple and NOT betrayed by him), not giving into bullies threats, helped divert an attack on Iran a la Iraq.

Ahmadinejad will go to Iran's history as one of the greatest characters for what he has done for Iran in every capacity that he has served, while you have been whining afar for the past 30 years!!

 


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The Broken Record!

by Killjoy (not verified) on

Jaleho,

You ARE funny!

Learn to laugh, lady!

Sometimes at what you yourself write!

What has Ahmadinejad's family tree got to do with his disastrous record as president of Iran?


Jaleho

What Kind of Pleasure

by Jaleho on

do some people get from spreading COMPLETE BS that they have no idea about? Beats me!!

Here goes Killjoy talking about Armani-wearing university students in Iran during Shah to counter my paragraph about Ahmadinejad, the son of a blacksmith, going to university in Tehran back then: 

"As we all know the majority of students at the universities in Iran at
the time were "rich bastards" who went to college driving foreign cars,
wore Italian clothes, lived in three-bedroom apartments in the best
parts of the cities they went to school and each had a maid and a cook.....

The cafeterias in colleges were divided into two sections, one for the
"rich bastards" and one for the poor suckers. Their lunch breaks were
at different hours, too. The rich, spoiled kids would eat first and the
poor would get the leftovers.
The chefs were all French and Italian
with some Brits who used fake Italian or French passports." 

Thank God that YT advises him to check his resources before writing BS and by showing that Armani started his fashion stuff in 1975, reminded Killjoy that only Melli University had some resemblance to Killjoy's arajeefs :-) 

 

Ever consider that this is Iranian.com and a good number of people in this site might have gone to those universities you're talking about, and are having a good laugh at your expense??!

 

And dear YT, the Resalat tunnel is an amazingly beautiful piece of civil engineering, it took 9 years not since Ahmadinejad was a kid as you claim, it is over a mile in length and is very sturdy and its beauty is nothing comparable to BIG DIG, here's some pictures:

//www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=382...

 

And you say:

"next time you lecture about how great Ahmadinejad been for Iran,
factor those LIVES(among many many others) in your praises of the
incompetent FOOL(Ahmadinejad).

Besides my dear lady, the collapse of ceiling tiles in Boston Tunnel
project, was due to incompetency of the private contractor (infamous
Halliburton), and not due to incompetency of the government of
Massachusetts.
Although State of Massachusetts is notorious for
corruption."

 

First, if you think that the tunnel was built when Ahmadinejad was a kid, why do you blame him as an imcompetent FOOL who casued damage. Besides, can you tell me where do you get your informations from? A valid link makes your claims more respectable.

Here's some structural info from the contractors who worked on Resalat: 

//www.payab-zamzam.com/Resalat.htm

And regarding BIG DIG, for the 3.5 miles project performed by the biggest construction company of the world, famous for some jaw-dropping projects, Bechtel-Parsons Brinckerhoff(not Haliburton, "infamous Halibutrton" does oil stuff, had nothing to do with BIG DIG) , it took almost 30 years, the estimated price of $2.8 BILLION was increased to about $27 BILLION, and finally at 2007 The Mass Turnpike Authority overtook it. Its cost won't be paid until about 2040!!

Now, you want to poo poo Resalat tunnel, everything done in  Iran is bad, go ahead all you want. But like you told Killjoy, first check your sources please.


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Dear IRANdokht,

by Killjoy (not verified) on

What has been written about the dismall circumstances surrounding Iranian colleges is true.

A lot of these guys never attended college courses and never sat for exams, but got their doctoral degrees.

I know of a former colleague who lost his job and was put under arrest because he refused to give grades to students who didn't attend his courses because thay were busy doing something else.

Of course they came up with "good" reasons to arrest him!

AN is quoted as saying, even if oil went down to five or six dollars per barrel Iran would not get hurt economically. It was after some reminded him that it cost more to produce the damned thing that he "chose" to shut up.

How illiterate can the AN man get?

You are right when you say we need to discuss larger issues!


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YT,

by Killjoy (not verified) on

Dear Sir/Madam,

What I wrote about the situation in Iran was in response to what Jaleho an ardent supporter of Ahmadinejad and others who keep bringing up this irrelevant subject every time they get a chance as if he were the only poor student in the whole country.

If you had read what the supporters of the regime and especially those who seem to admire Ahmadinejad's "down-to-earth" personality say and if you had followed the presidential election campaign to learn how he fooled many by pretending he was for the poor, then you would have understood the satirical tone of my comment.

Students with bullet-proof cars? Chauffered limos? Maids and cooks? FEMALE CHAUFFEURS for extra fun? Get real and learn to laugh! You almost spoiled the joke for me!

One's economic background has nothing to do with what he actually does when he's given the authority he doesn't deserve. This was supposed to be a revolution by the poor to help themselves. Now, look what's happening to the poor Iranians, altogether.

Did you know that the price of the large Isfahan rug Ahmadinejad sat on during his son's wedding could buy furniture for a whole village at an Ikea outlet?

When I read reactions like yours on this site to anything that is supposed to be a joke or satirical, I remember the chubby kid in the movie, "Stand By Me," who after hearing a joke says: "And then what happened?"

I know about Giorgio Armani's career. When you hear a joke you're not supposed to get into the details of it. Jokes are for laughing!

Are you still in college?
If so,I think you'd better take some English courses before getting involved in a discussion of any kind.

Mibakhshindaa!

PS.
Ordinarily I don't respond to comments like yours, so PLEASE do not try to get me involved in a debate about whether I know about the dismal economic situation of the Iranian college students before or after the revolution.


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kill joy

by YT (not verified) on

Dear sir/madam.

with all due respect, do some homework before you put your foot in your mouth.

Giorgio Armani did not start his business until 1975.

[..Giorgio Armani and Sergio Galeotti founded the company in Milan in 1975 with capital of $10,000. Armani today employs about 4,700 employees and has 13 factories around the world. It has nearly 300 stores in 36 countries. Recently, the house has begun a haute couture operation, showing in Paris during the Haute Couture fashion week, under the name of Armani Privé...]

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armani

Most importantly, most all of the students in prestigious Iranian universities, i.e. Daneshgahe Tehran, Saanati, Poly-Technic, & etc. IN FACT came from poor and non-cosmopolitan families.

Your assessment is marginally true about some of the students in Daneshgahe Meli.

Reading is fundamental.... plz remember that.

Mibakhshi ha........

-YT


Kaveh Nouraee

To "Iran educated"

by Kaveh Nouraee on

In response to the first part of your closing question, nom I am not questioning your credibility. However, this thread is not about whether your concours standings are credible or verifiable.

It is AN's credibility that I question. Academic, intellectual, professional, you name it.

The powers of the IRI are not going to approve a candidate who possesses an education or credentials that exceeds their own. These are power-hungry egomaniacs who are extremely insecure. Independent thought is a concept that they deem to be a threat to their revolution.

And to answer the last part of your closing question...the last thing I am is uninformed.


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Jaleho..... Tunnels in Tehran????????

by YT (not verified) on

you say: [The tunnel under the street in Tehran, much smaller project of course, was made fantastically FAST and CHEAP in comparison, and it looks GREAT TOO. ..]

With all due respect lady, seems like you are so UNAWARE of real cost of that damned tunnel since you are bragging about your Ahmadinejad, and how efficient they were.

First of all, the tunnel project had started when Ahmadinejad was busy playing [yegoul dogoul].

Secondly, real COST of the tunnel was in HUMAN LIVES of 100's of workers. Due to incompetency of IRI, government and their NOKAR [shahrdar], and due to the fact underneath Tehran is full of sewage wells, while digging, 100's of workers were killed because of collapse of the old sewage wells/walls.

next time you lecture about how great Ahmadinejad been for Iran, factor those LIVES(among many many others) in your praises of the incompetent FOOL(Ahmadinejad).

Besides my dear lady, the collapse of ceiling tiles in Boston Tunnel project, was due to incompetency of the private contractor (infamous Halliburton), and not due to incompetency of the government of Massachusetts. Although State of Massachusetts is notorious for corruption.

Respectfully
-YT


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education vs. intellect

by YT (not verified) on

Its rather customary in USA that elected official MOSTLY come from a high level university, i.e. Harvard, Yale & etc. Normally these officials have some sort of law degree, i.e. Clinton, Obama & etc.

question is, does a degree in any field equate intellect, and does intellect equate ability to lead a country.

When I see Ahmadinejad, he rather reminds of Mr. GW Bush. these 2 men are from totally different social back grounds. Bush being from a wealthy family and Ahmadinejad a common folk, among many other differences.

With all the disparity about these 2 gentlemen, they share a common STRONG bond and resemblance and that is THEY BOTH ARE STUPID AND A SORRY EXCUSE for an executive.

One has put USA in financial melt down and ruined Americas credibility in the eyes of the world, and the other one has disgraced Iran in more than one way.

-YT


IRANdokht

Dear Killjoy

by IRANdokht on

I wish you had read the entire comment.

The problem with AN is not his illiteracy, it's his backwardness, his mollah-sefati, his lack of vision, his corruption, his fundamentalism, his bigotry, his narrow-mindedness , his disregard for human rights, not being leader material and many more valid criticisms that you can make.

why discredit yourself by denying the one thing he has accomplished which is his degree in engineering?  isn't your argument against AN strong enough to hold up on its own? 

I am just being a realist. I know he went to Elmo san'at, so why should I deny his engineering degree when there are so many other things seriously wrong with him? We're not in kindergarten so we are capable of reasoning and criticizing someone while being realistic.   

IRANdokht


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Dear IRANdokht,

by Killjoy (not verified) on

You wrote:

"We're not in kindergarten anymore. When there are real issues that we can criticize someone for, why discredit ourselves by calling him stinky or bisavad in this case."

Exactly because we are out of kindergarten we should criticize people for their illiteracy or lack of qualifications. In kindergartens we are not supposed to criticize anything. We're supposed to behave ourselves, otherwise, we'd be labled bad/unruly kids.

Ahmadinejad's illiteracy is a contagious disease in the Iran of today and if one cannot relate this illiteracy to what's destroying the country then there's nothing to argue about.

Why is it that 180,000 young men and women are leaving Iran annually for better education and job opprtunities in other countries?

Why is it that a country like Iran with all its natural and POTENTIAL human resources cannot absorb its "best and brightest?"

Why are millions of highly qualified Iranians are forced to live in other countries and many of those who have chosen to stay in Iran are mostly involved in businesses unrelated to their academic qualifications?

Why is Iran so backward, both culturally and technologically, in the twenty-first century that even some of the well-educated hard-core supporters of the regime prefer living in the Western democracies?

Why is it that after thirty years, those holding key positions in a country as vast as Iran are a bunch of illiterate militarists and backward mullaahs?

There are many issues that cannot be addressed unless one deals with the type of individuals who are currently in power in Iran.


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ranks in concour

by Iran educated (not verified) on

sounds ridiculous when someone asks for the proof! when the results of concoor were pubished in Shah's time, the ranks were given next to the name in the paper and there was a code for the university they were accepted. All through the first year, the rank would show next to your name on all class assignments and school paperwork.
ask me where my proof is of the rank and I wouldn't have one to show, but all my classmates knew because they saw it next to my name for a year. does that make me not credible? or the fact that I had to explain this in a comment to you, makes you sound not-informed?


IRANdokht

not a kindergarten

by IRANdokht on

We're not in kindergarten anymore. When there are real issues that we can criticize someone for, why discredit ourselves by calling him stinky or bisavad in this case. 

There are real reasons why AN is not a respected figure, we should be outspoken about those issues, mainly human rights abuses and corruption in the government offices, arresting students and university faculty, political prisoners etc...  By trying to deny a known fact, we're only discrediting ourselves and we risk sounding unreasonably ignorant. How is that in the best interest of the country?

IRANdokht


Kaveh Nouraee

Quite Astonishing

by Kaveh Nouraee on

The level of apathy concerning this idiot is beyond belief. This guy is one of the key players responsible for the turmoil Iran is in today, and yet he is actually being lauded for his self-claimed academic achievements.

Jaleho, academic credentials, even legitimate ones, does not automatically render an individual "smart" or "open-minded".

Also, why are you mentioning the tunnel in Tehran in relation to this guy? Is there any evidence that he had anything to do with its planning, design or construction?

If this were some foreigner doing this, there would be a unanimous call for his head. But being that he's not, there is this notion that he is entitled to some sort of free pass.

Talk about Iranians disrespecting themselves!

 

 


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Jaleho put her foot in her mouth again

by Observer (not verified) on

"In short, again, some self-disrespecting Iranians who don't know jack about some fields themselves are quick to make fun of those who are smart, and open-minded! "

Ahmadinejad being open-minded? a real big hahahahahahaha


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The Rich Bastards!

by Killjoy (not verified) on

"The son of a blacksmith from a village, passed university entrance exam during Shah with a high rank, at a time that most of the people who are writing snide comments couldn't pass the exam, and their rich parents had to send them here to study :-)"

Reading the above, many fun memories of the past came to mind!

As we all know the majority of students at the universities in Iran at the time were "rich bastards" who went to college driving foreign cars, wore Italian clothes, lived in three-bedroom apartments in the best parts of the cities they went to school and each had a maid and a cook.

The very spoiled kids who didn't want to drive had chauffeured limousines. Some actually had female chauffeurs for the extra fun.

Giorgio Armani paid frequent private visits to the homes(mansions) of those college kids to hold his fashions shows there. The kids would fly back home for the shows which were held over the weekends. Some would put in orders for twenty to thirty suits a year. In fact, I heard Armani made most of his wealth selling clothes to rich Iranian college kids. This may only be one of those gossips made by some self-respecting Iranians. Who knows!

Right before the revolution, when the "Islamist" revolutionaries began abducting rich kids for hefty ransoms, many of the parents decided to send their kids to expensive schools in other countires and those who stayed in Iran had bullet proof German cars with two body guards and a chauffeur each.

During that period the majority of Iranians lived in cosmopolitan cities and there were only a few villages where the likes of AN(That's a nice nickname, IRANdokht. Hillarious!) hailed from.

The cafeterias in colleges were divided into two sections, one for the "rich bastards" and one for the poor suckers. Their lunch breaks were at different hours, too. The rich, spoiled kids would eat first and the poor would get the leftovers. The chefs were all French and Italian with some Brits who used fake Italian or French passports.

There must be many other good stories about those times, but at this age my memory fails me more often than it should. Could you guys share your fun memories, too?

PS.
I sometimes wonder why there was a revolution in such a great place.


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You have to see both sides of AN

by Anonymous-2 (not verified) on

One he is definitely neither dumb, stupid or ignorant. He may speak like the common folks when he is around the masses - that is called being street smart; but have anyone of you highly educated individuals ever spoken to him directly or been in a gathering where he is speaking to the so called "intellectual" class and is being questioned on the most complex technical questions - if you have you will see a totally different side of him.

Don't judge a book by its cover.


Jaleho

Again self-disrespecting Iranians!

by Jaleho on

As Irandokht indicated, Ahmadinejad went to one of the good Iranian universities. The son of a blacksmith from a village, passed university entrance exam during Shah with a high rank, at a time that most of the people who are writing snide comments couldn't pass the exam, and their rich parents had to send them here to study :-)

Prior to becoming mayor of Tehran, he got recognition for the extremely efficient construction of building units for the earthquake victims.

For those complaining about the construction in Tehran and its not being cost efficient, I guess they've never heard of the BIG DIG, the greatest construction project in history in Boston, with so many revisions on cost and duration, and finally when it was done after all the scandals, parts of the tunnels fell on cars and killed people.

The tunnel under the street in Tehran, much smaller project of course, was made fantastically FAST and CHEAP in comparison, and it looks GREAT TOO.

 

For Parthian who makes fun of Ahmadinejad for talking about some girl trying to work on nuclear energy at home, I guess he has never heard of Cold Fusion efforts. Schools like MIT here spent many years before they officially gave it up. Schools in Texas are still working on it.

 

In short, again, some self-disrespecting Iranians who don't know jack about some fields themselves are quick to make fun of those who are smart, and open-minded!


Kaveh Nouraee

Based upon common sense

by Kaveh Nouraee on

If defending this charletan's academic credentials suits you, then so be it.

He has claimed that his concours was ranked #132 out of 400,000. No credible proof of this exists.

I simply do not believe that his academic qualifications are completely legitimate.

 


IRANdokht

Thank you Paymaneh

by IRANdokht on

That was what I have been trying to say but can't write as well as you did.

Just because we do not approve of this man's agenda, policies, idelogy and because we consider him a traitor does not mean that we can sit here and just assume what we want and expect everyone to accept our views as the actual facts.

I am very much reminded of the head of the Amir Kabir's Islamic committee who spoke the same way Ahmadinejad does, even back then, it seemed to be a genre they all copied. No matter how I despised the guy and how much harm he's done to me personally and academically, I can't deny that he is an engineer from Polytechnic, just like AN is from Elmo Sanat.

IRANdokht


Paymaneh Amiri

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was an

by Paymaneh Amiri on

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was an undergraduate student at Elm-o-Sanat (Science and Technology) University of Iran at the onset of Iranian revolution in 1979.

Though Elm-o-Sanat was then a technical university, it was not the best in the hierarchy of Iranian universities.  Certainly Tehran University's Technical arm, Daneshkadeh-ye Fanni, Aryamehr University of Technology (Sharif), and Tehran Polytechnic (Amirkabir) all had better ranking and respect than Elm-o-Sanat.

Even so, I give Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the benefit of the doubt that he was an engineering caliber student.  His activities during his university education, and his well-known allegiance to the ruling mullahs of Iran after graduating Elm-o-Sanat, however, make his admission to his further degrees suspect.  You will have to remember that he was already an official when he was getting his Ph.D.  What were the chances of his flunking the entrance exams?

Speaking of his Ph.D. degree, many believe that he basically defied all other Elm-o-Sanat faculty members, pushing through with an idiotic idea he had which was centered around a monorail system for Tehran, a city that has been caught in the quagmire of its metro system for 40 years, and has not been able to solve its public transportation system problems and manage traffic. 

The ironic and shocking thing about that Ph.D. thesis after it got Mr. Ahmadinejad a degree is that once he became Tehran Mayor, he insisted on implementing the project in Tehran admist serious protests of traffic and city planning managers who thought the idea was not cost effective, nor practical for Tehran.  The project was started and abandoned in a while, costing a lot of money and bringing a large embezzlement case forward in which Mr. Ahmadinejad's brother was involved.

Regardless of what Mr. Ahmadinejad's degrees are, he talks like an uneducated man.  That is why he is called a populist, because he talks like the man on the streets (of the village).  He can't have it both ways.  Either he is an astute and savvy academician and politician who knows his stuff and talks knowledgably and intelligently about it, in which case he shouldn't be saying the things he is known to say, or he is an ordinary man with no knowledge about many important things, in which case he has no business being a leader of a country of 70 million. 

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a traitor to Iran and Iranians for putting them in harm's way, not because of the invalidity of his degrees, but because he is an idiot.


IRANdokht

based on what?

by IRANdokht on

Did you see him take an advance engineering test and fail? How would you be able to assess someone's technical background without engaging in a technical level discussion?

that's how you guys proceed and make up your collective mind about what's right and what's wrong, who's credible and who's not. 

I know he was high up in the Islamic committee of Elmo San'at during the cultural revolution (enghelab farhangi), and before that 3-year break, they did not accept anyone in the universities without the concour. It was afterwards when the war had already started that the martyrs families (khanevadeyeh shohadaa) were given a precentage of entries, and bassijis and pasdars could go to college after their tour of duty.

Sitting here and denying the facts will not change them! 

IRANdokht