Brian H. Appleton

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NO WMD - but we still have to kill 'em!

If this war were a novel/screenplay/idea, it would be laughed at. These scenes are kept secret for a reason. They pose a threat to the funding of this senseless war. 

The military is a joke. I just heard the Abu Ghraib unit is headed back to Iraq for more stellar service and tax guzzling. No WMDs, but we need to stay anyway and just shoot at people to give the impression that we're "doing something to help." LOL.

It's always sex, lies, and videotape.  

Mr. Appleton

As you might have noticed, Iranian in US are not the same as Iranians in Iran. That's assimilation, I hope that you understand.

Looking forward to your next piece.

Rasool

Can you please remind your readers of how you justify your courtship with Amir Ahmadi. Did you ever question his association with some of the perpetrators of the 1988 genocide?

FR

The number of executed in Iran in the 1980's was 4,000 somthing

according to the site called Omid:

//www.iranrights.org/english/memorial.php

Free On, your abusive name calling sociopathic behavior belies your intelligence. If you would just stick to the subject and the facts, you would have some interesting arguments instead of being such a garbage mouth and giving outsiders an opportunity to think ill of your people whom you claim to represent. It is an insult to the dead and the suffering that you would seize on this platform as an opportunity to have a slug fest with me as if it makes any difference who wins or has the last word...grow up.

a liar and a coward - that is "Free) ;)

No, you make a statement, you back it up with evidence!  As I mentioned, there are various figures in relation to those killed in the summer of 1988 and they are all around 3000, which is bad enough as far as I am concerned.  But you claim the figure of 30,000 in the summer of 1988 alone!!!  Back it up with a reliable source or shut up.

I have done 'my homework', I have studied this history in minute details and sought comparative accounts, and that is how I have exposed your for the liar and the coward that you are :)

Appleton stop while you're way behind...

Firstly, Fozouli, go do your own homework, pal, it's not my job to school you. 

Appleton writes, "to assume all Italians were fascists is inaccurate. It is not because Germany and Italy were humbled by defeat, it is because their culture and millenia of civilization could not be wiped out by a single renegade regime..." 

Mr. phoney friend of Iran, you're so incompetent it's laughable. No one said that ALL Italians or Germans were fascists in the 1930's, just as no one is saying that all Iranian people in Iran today are hezbo fascists -- ONLY THEIR LEADERS, you hear??? Do you speak English? The average citizen in Italy or Germany were not all fascists, but the Nazis were, all of them, as is the case with the IRI leaders. Try to distinguish between average citizens and their leaders!

And the fact that German and Italian culture were not wiped out by the fascists has a lot to do with the allies destroying the TUMOR of fascism that had taken over their societies and was on the verge of erasing a huge part of their culture -- the Jewish part and the Gypsie part, etc. But for the allies, one can make the case that, indeed, a huge part of German/Italian social structure and cultural life would have been wiped out from the pages of history.

Get outta here, pal. Mr. Homeless Freemason. You don't know jack! Go somewhere else and spew your incompetent jibber-jabber!

The topic was about US military killing innocent civilians...how

can anyone defend that"? "I am left wondering what my detractors are actually advocating?"

Dear Brian this is exactly it!!  You committed the sin of questioning the US killing innocent civilians.  

Have you noticed "Free" (!) who made the statement of IR having killed "30,000" in jails "in 1988 alone", has not provided any source despite my twice questioning his assertion?!  This is the 'truth' they advocate!  

Pirouz bashi doost-e aziz  

There is a road between Bologna and Florence called La Futa

and every cross street along that road is named after a young partisan who lost their life at 19 or in their early 20's fighting Mussolini's facists long before the tied of war turned against him. I walked that road when I was 19...to assume all Italians were fascists is inaccurate. It is not because Germany and Italy were humbled by defeat, it is because their culture and millenia of civilization could not be wiped out by a single renegade regime despite all the text book burning and inprisonment, torture and execution and secret police...look at what happened to the USSR...it did not collapse from military defeat...it collapsed because you can't hold people and nations against their will forever and the same thing is destined for the IRI

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

internet a good refuge for trolls

I have to apologize to my readers for my participation in this slug fest...at the end of which I am left wondering what my detractors are actually advocating? The topic was about US military killing innocent civilians...how can anyone defend that?  

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

Free on you are projecting

and not only that you are predictably boring ;0) 

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

My contribution to Iran

is to make her enemies look foolish. Example: the curious case of Brian Appleton. 

and by the way China owns our debt

and you are no Howard Baskerville either...what contribution have you made exactly to Iran? Where exactly do get the authroity to speak for Iranians?

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

Appltetonian nonesense

Listen, pal, you still sound like a creepy homeless person who has no national home nor identity. YOU'RE NO HOWARD BASKERVILLE, pal, go back to where ever the heck you came from and leave Iran to Iranians!

Just a sample of Appletonian nonsense -- this from a man who vociferously protests against military action in Iran. 

He writes, "Today everyone loves the Italians and the Germans and their culture but it was only 60 years ago that they were the enemy...the hopeful thing about humanity is that it is capable of change."

Guess what, genuis? Italy and Germany became model citizens of the world only AFTER America destroyed them IN A BLOODY WAR!!!!!!!!!!! That's how CHANGE arrived in Germany and Italy!!!!!!!! Remember the Axis Powers, Hitler and Moussolini???

Not that I'm advocating war against my homeland, but if you're going to argue against war in Iran and promote the need for negotiations and rapproachment with Iran, why would you bring up the examples of Italy and Germany, two former FASCIST countries, much like the IRI, who would have NEVER rehabilitated themselves under Hitler and El Duce, nor negotaited in good faith (remember Nevile Chamberlin's "Peace in our times" document)? Germany and Italy were humbled and  humiliated in war, because they were toxic FASCISTS, just like the IRI, and that is the only reason that they are now model citizens.  

See, you're not very smart, Appleton, and that's my whole point. The entire US diplomatic delegation in Iran in the late 1970's, including your commander in chief by the way, were either incompetent fools or tools of the global New World Order establishment, or both. And with your Freemason ideas of one world order, you fit both categories quite well.

See, you're a bit of a weasel too. Instead of the Germany/Italy examples, you should site the China model. But knowing that people would object to China's human rights violations and lack of democracy, you bring up two democratic countries (Germany/Italy), hoping to fool some suckers into following your inept line of thinking regarding the natural forces of change.

Let me put it to you clearly: Following the China rapproachment model leads to present-day China, a country with no democracy, no human rights, no freedom of speech, a country that executes the most people on the planet, with the IRI being second. Following the Germany/Italy experience would lead us to a bloody war. Do you get it, pal?

Or am I going too fast for you?

Hate is a strong word but thanks Mullah Nasrudin

I see your point...I probably like Iran more than they do...I think I'm going to retire over there ;0)

By the way, Makhmalbaf was supposed to speak at Stanford tonight but it got cancelled :0(

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

Brian,

They hate you because according to their illustions "white Americans are supposed to hate Iran and Iranians". But you have shown compassion towards Iranians and you've accepted them as they are. In their eyes you have "sinned".

Let's not generalize Fred, Free on and Genghis Khan are not Iran

Anyone who goes by the moniker of Ghenghis Khan is not representative of Iran as the monguls rained down a destruction on Iran so deadly and devastating that it can be argued that it has left a negative effect on the national psyche forever. 

Despite thousands of years of dictatorship and foreign domination Iran has maintained its identity.

Iran can boast of a proud culture and heritage and actually during Sassanian times preserved the Ancient Greek mathematics and Science at a time when it was being persecuted and suppressed in the Eastern Roman Empire. Iran is known not only for its poets but its scientists like Ibn Sina. Today the Shariff University is a sister college to Stanford University. In modern Iran they do stem cell research and heart surgery and just about every kind of scientific research one might find in any Western nation including nuclear research. Now there is the problem. The neo-colonialism of the USA is similar to the old mercantile system of the British Empire and frowns upon any third world country which insists on its own sovereignty and is not economically dependant upon it. The fact that Iran does not have enough refinery capacity to meet its own consumer needs is indicative of this.

If there had not been such a large illiteracy rate in the nation with the second largest petroleum reserves in the world, it would have been much harder for a theocracy to take over. It was only within the Shah's regime that feudalism ended with the granting of land deeds to the former serfs despite his motive of wanting to bust up the power of the old aristocracy.

The reactionary grasping at religion in the face of modernity is a trend that we see in the USA as well with the religious right who have tried to corrupt the public educational process by infiltrating religion into biology with their evolution by design nonsence. Iran has no monopoly on ignorance. There is much about modern society that flys in the face of traditional societies. The loss of family values, extended family and community as people migrate from rural areas into cities for work is a trend which has caused social disfunction everywhere. It is a natural reaction when something is not working to try to recapture an idealized past so the advent of the IRI has to be taken in context and even so there are many who opposed this regime right from the start and continue to do so, who have not fled Iran.

At a time when we see brave men, women and children in the opposition movement, we should be proud of their courage and support them in every way we can rather than continue the endless infighting which has made the Iranian diaspora ineffective. At a time like this sanctions and threats of war which have not worked for 31 years, need to be abandoned and an era of cultural exchange like the Ping Pong diplomacy that opened up the Bamboo Curtain is what is needed.

Today everyone loves the Italians and the Germans and their culture but it was only 60 years ago that they were the enemy...the hopeful thing about humanity is that it is capable of change...

Even within the IRI there are clerics who are part of the opposition...Montazeri was opposed to clerical rule right from the start. Every land has its good people and its bad characters and it is gross generalization which creates propoganda and removes our natural inhibitions against warfare and bloodshed by demonizing and dehumanizing the enemy...so let's not descend to that kind of commentary...

And for you warmongers and hawks...war has never resolved anything...Warfare only makes things worse...

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

Why everyone looks down upon those folks

As I read the material posted in response to Mr. Appleton I am reminded of how impulsive, irrational, and childish most of the folks from that part of the world are. We should remind everyone that Iranians became the only nation in recent history that voluntarily gave up all their social freedoms including freedom FROM religion in favor of a 7th century Arab regime, and they did that due to their emotionalism and lack of rationality.   These folks haven’t learned that no matter what is presented, that they should either respond in a meaningful fashion or refrain.

Free, a reminder

Brian should remind us, all,  of a dog which is capable of eating his own feces, yet keeps barking to be fed.

If my body dies, let my body die, but do not let my country die.

Apples,

You remind of a CREEPY homeless person.

Free on

you remind me of a little dog barking...is anbody listening? 

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

and by the way Sanctions don't work...

During the period Iraq was under UN sanction, it is estimated 15,000 children died from lack of access to antibiotics but it did no damage to Saddam...these politicians toss sanctions around casually like a beach ball because it makes them appear tuff minded to their constituents but it costs them nothing, it's a freebie... but the gasoline embargo on Iran will only cause the average citizen to suffer in gas lines and from no heat in winter but it will do nothing to oust the regime but rather only harden its position...it thrives on xenophobia and blaming the outside world for Iran's ills. I am not the only one who thinks sanctions are of no benefit and actually detrimental...I would refer you to our new Ambassador to the Iran desk at the State Dept, John Limbert and to Roger Cohen of the NY Times for openers...

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

Appleton is truly senile

"I am not talking about a utopia but essentially we need world government such as the UN with actual power."

Oh, yes, the lovely UN, who actually in the last few years has had the perverted regimes in Syria and Iran preside over their "human rights" committees. Get the hell outta here, Appleton. Your other incompetent post is so polluted with misinformation and outright lies and propaganda it's not worth wasting my time. You're a shameless propaganist at best, and an amoral Freemason at best. Either way, you're no friend of Iran, pal!

In fact, you are the face behind the enemy!

Not that it makes me an expert

but I spent the summer in Iran two years ago...  I am not just talking from my arm chair in my living room. When is the last time you were there?

There is no proof that the IRI has a nuclear weapons program. The UN inspectors have never been able to prove it and Iran unlike any other member of the NPT has voluntarily subjected itself to UN inspection. Israel has nukes, Pakistan has nukes, India has nukes and non of them are even members of the NPT. An invasion and occupation of Iran would only replace the IRI with some other form of dictatorship making Iran a vassal client state with a pro US puppet again which would not be in the best interests of the majority of Iranians and is why they had a revolution in 1979 to begin with.If you imagine there was no human rights abuse under the Shah with his Savak, you have poor memory. Look what has happened in Iraq and Aghanistan...do you really imagine the US military leaving any time soon. Besides an invasion would not be "surgical strikes."There would be much chaos and bloodshed and suffering which I would not wish on anyone. The civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan continue to mount and continue to be covered up by the media.

On the other topic of social disfunction and crime in America, it is not just about dictatorships being crime free by repression and democracies not. In Iran when I broke some rule, I was literally able to talk my way out of punishment. Things are still measured on a human scale which you probably think of as corruption. Try talking your way out of a traffic infraction, etc here and see what happens. It's a question of following the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law. Following the letter of the law often creates an unintended disaster.

Iran is also made up of many diverse ethnic groups and is far from being a homogeneous society but there are aocial values which I maintain are not imposed by the state or by religion, social values which make it a more civil society than I have experienced here, where competition and "winning" are everything and it's all about "me,me, me..."...where elderly and small children are disenfranchised and where people suffer from alienation and loneliness on a massive scale...where more people undergo therapy per capita than anywhere else on earth and not just because they can afford it..we may have beautiful and just laws and freedoms on paper but the day to day reality of our existence is quite different...

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

Nationality is becoming outmoded

I am not talking about a utopia but essentially we need world government such as the UN with actual power. Nationality is becoming meaningless. Pax Americana, Pax Mongolica, Pax Romana implies that world order can only be maintained by an empire. I just don't believe that. I think that foreign relations between nations must be based upon policies which benefit both sides equally and the majority of the citizens not just a narrow elite. This is not an impossible dream. We just need real statesmen instead of politicians.

Brian H. Appleton

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Rasool Aryadust

Khers - 30,000 executed in 1988?!

There is an Amnesty International report that over 3000 mainly MKO members were summarily executed in jails at the end of Iran-Iraq war in July 1988, following the MKO's 7000 strong attack across the border from Iraq.  This is an approximate figure and there are similar figures in various accounts.  

So, where does the figure of 30,000 in "the summer of 1988 alone" come from?! 

relevance please?

What does IR crimes has to do with this one? relevance please.

-YT 

I love it

when people ask for documentation of IRI's crimes.  It's as if the IRI is going to disclose its records, or allow someone in Iran to do the necessary research and come up with a compilation.  :-)

cute

Who else would hi5 a Fred? A Genghis Khan

-YT 

Right on Free

I'd like ask this Rasool-o-shaitaan, or even better safir-o-shaitaan, one simple question:

Which country do you suggest should be the world's superpower instead of the USA? What is the alternative, Arya Kosh?

And please don't waste my time with a poetic, or a philosophical answer-evader; we are all fully aware of the beauty of a harmonized, peaceful, and heaven-like world. But my question is from a pragmatic point of view: How can you envisage a better world without the US, on top?

If my body dies, let my body die, but do not let my country die.