Capt Ayhab

IRI is bad

IRI is a disgrace but unfortunately the atrocities commited by IRI is currently being manipulated in order to gain control of Iran due to its ecnomic and geopolitical importance (see PNAC).

Lets take the case of homosexuals and their current lack of rights and on going persecution. Iran being a population of 70 million will have say 350,000 practising homosexuals (if 1% of males are gays). They have very little rights and say 1% of them are killed  or imprisoned per annum by the IRI- this is a figure of 3,500 badly persecuted individuals.

Now take Iraq for example. 4% of popluation have died. So persumably 4% of Iranian homesexuals will die if US/Israel occupy Iran. The figure of loss to this group will be 14,000. 

So when IRI is chastised for its treatment of gays as a pretext to lay the foundation of an attack, should this become feasble, then 4 times as many of this group (along with a great many muslim, christian, bahais etc) will die in this event than under the IRI itself.

So personally I will not critisize IRI till the external threat to Iran is removed.

Ba azhareh aradat

Khlaeh Mosheh 

Responsibility is different from blaming.

I am not blaming, but WE including me , are responsible to change our way of thinking and care for all.

That is my 2 cents, not blaming but being informed and advocating for all Iranians.

The real question is...

Cap Ayhab,
We are all bearing the collective punishment now. The responsible party is and has been our intolerant leaders.
Taking collective responsibility for the majority is to accept the past mistakes and learn new ways to deal with old problems. The legal responsibility lies with those to whom have been committed the welfare and the protection of the nation. Them will have to bear the responsibility of running this ship ashore, putting the country and the nation in harms ways and committing criminal acts incompatible with the task they have accepted.

The people of Iran regardless of their respective background are and have been the victim of unwise and ignorant leadership.
We must take responsibility to educate ourselves to let go of the culture of trauma, total desperation and find hope in new horizons well within our reach.
We need to upgrade not only our software but our hardware as well. That is our collective responsibility.
And we must never lose hope.
with regards,

Tahirih

My question is, 

It is a known reality that almost entire population of Iran are held hostage under this brutal regime:

Women are brutally suppressed, beaten, jailed, raped, executed and kept under constant brutal iron fist.

Children are raped, executed and jailed.

Gays are executed.

Young men are brutally suppressed and jailed for offenses as little as expressing themselves, tight jeans, T Shirt and long hair.

This has been going on for 30 years, these people, along with Baha'is, Jews and ...... are under an IRON FIST of brutality. 

Are you telling me these people are RESPONSIBLE for what is being done to Baha'is???? What about themselves?

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Question: can entire society of Iran, or Shi'a population....?

However Question is, can entire society of Iran, or Shi'a population be held responsible for action of few?

In my opinion, NO! Because Shias arent cloned and programmed
uniformly. They do have differing beliefs (religious or otherwise), practices and political views.

I do understand the frustration of many towards Iran's current regime, but it would only be silly to blame the entire shia population for the wrongdoings of Iran's gouvernment. Also, let's not forget that the vast majority of Iran's population are shias, so the people mainly affected by the regime's atrocities are in fact Shias themselves! Shias are the ones suffering, and they should be blamed for it too? I just dont get the logic in that!

To: Khaleh

Why does every thread had to turn into Israel?? Do we have to wait for Huffpost, dailykos to start complaining about the IRI atrocities before we start to take notice of our own backyard??

Zionists bad, We get that. Why don't you make that video into a seprate blog?

Khaleh Jan

with your permission.

Thanks

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Tahirih

As a human being, and as one who has a close relative who is of Baha'i faith, I do relate to your plight and I do sympathies[to say the least] with the brutality of IR regime in dealing with minorities, particularly Baha'i hamvatans.

However Question is, can entire society of Iran, or Shi'a population be held responsible for action of few?

And If so where  does this blameworthiness start and stop.

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Who is responsible for this?

It should not be blame game, but...

It is a matter of taking responsibility!

The day My Bahai husband went back to the university admission in Iran after cultural revolution! non of his class mates talked to him , not even the ones who were friends with him?? why ?? they did not want to be seen talking to a Bahai. I am not blaming all, and I am not speaking for other minorities, but there was no support from anyone when they  killed our 17 yrs olds!

we have to all take responsibility for our in action, and also demonising a group of our citizens by calling them Zionists, or Zionist sympathizers, or spies of Britain and so on.....We bahais have been called many things, to make it easier to look the other side when they kill and prison us.

The responsibility starts from the time you hear about our plight , and do not a thing to help. When people are not aware that is , ignorance, but these days with the use of e - mails , no one can say " I did not know"

Yes, we are all responsible!!!

Tahirih