Selective censorship, whether through threats of violence or deleting standard user comments, will undermine Iranian.com

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CIM
by CIM
23-May-2012
 

Misters Said Amin and Jahanshah Javid:

The administration of this website exerting selective censorship over this site’s participants in the manner we have just witnessed to impede the polite and free expression of opinion is unconscionable.  The article CIM posted had 14 comments and within the hour it was stripped down to 8.  We read the comments of the users that this site removed and there was absolutely nothing objectionable about the removed comments when viewed against standard publishing practices – They were basic expressions of opinion by several users; the general idea of the removed comments was that organized groups of commentators writing under pseudonyms are given special privileges to threaten others and to manipulate the site’s contents.  By removing those politely worded opinions and user experiences in essence the site has proven those critics right and sent a message to the public that they should not rely on the accuracy of the content or assurances on your site.  Simply stated, you may find that the public will not trust the information or guarantees provided on this site. 

Oddly enough, one of the issues that we wrote to you about – this site allowing certain users to threaten violence against the families of individuals with whom they have a difference of opinion – is not addressed by the site while the ownership and management allows that practice to continue. So people understand: A deliberate choice was made by the site to permit repeated violent threats and insults (though its terms andconditions indicate it forbids them) while the site removed comments of users politely describing their personal experiences on this site.  Two methods are being used: (1) publication of threats to discourage participation and (2) the removal of innocuous user opinions of the type one can expect to find on any reputable news site.

The suppression of users’ opinions by arbitrarily controlling the levers of publication is indistinguishable from deliberately disseminating propaganda.  What we observed and archived shows that the site you manage is cherry picking comments to convey a distorted outward message to the public.  By selectively deleting certain comments and preventing the public from accessing that information you are not enhancing the image of this website, you are in fact degrading it. 

As was written in our email to you before, there is no need to for threats, insults, and baseless innuendos because we have offered to sit down with you in an interview format (whether in-person orthrough a medium such as Skype) and to have a direct dialogue on these issues. Given the number of complaints we are fielding there undoubtedly would a great deal of interest in the interview and we request that you seriously consider the offer in light of the reoccurrence of complaints.

Thank you. 

CIM 

centerforindependentmedia@gmail.com

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Siavash300

Idiots should be banned anyway.

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Zorumbaa

Free or NOT Free, that is the QUESTION!

by Zorumbaa on

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iraj khan

you can't just censor people's comments and claim

by iraj khan on

nothing is sacred!

Why comments of those who stand up to 'Bomb Iran' crowd who are mostly Jewish and pro Israel  is deleted?   

Why?

Is the admin intimidated by this crowd too? If so then let us all know about it instead of deleting our comments.

Isn't it true that this same crowd threatens and demonize those who are for a diplomatic solution between Iran and United States because they live in the United States?

Isn't true that the pro Israel crowd is organized and attack in a group? //iranian.com/main/blog/first-amendment/israel-lobby

Do we have to give examples of those who left IC because of being harrassed at their work by the same group?

Are you telling us that admin after all these years is not aware of what was done to those who stood up against pro Israel crowd here.

I am not going to mention the names (users' names) of those who left this site because of harrassment and phone calls at their work place.

The questions raised by CIM are legitimate questions, 

Regardless of who and what CIM is.

Have a good day,

Iraj


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Agha Simorgh

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Seyyed Hedayatollah Shahab Ferdowsi died before the revolution in 1347 which is 1968 //www.ketab.ir/bookview.aspx?bookid=1227686

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Who is 'We' anyway?

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Darius Kadivar

Get a Life !

by Darius Kadivar on

No one is priveledged on this website one way or another.

 

SHAKEN, NOT STIRRED: Bless Mankind ... Including My Attackers ... 

 

Everyone including prolific contributors like myself have been banned twice in the past ( however wrongly and unfairly in my opinion) and I like everyone else had to struggle my way through by respecting a minimum set of rules like not using Profanity or abusive comments ...

 

My only reserve is when political correctness is used as a convenient argument to delete comments or interrupt a vehement discourse which at times can get personal because the two people debating know one another over time ...  then falsly claiming it was aimed at moderating the thread:

 

MY ORWELLIAN NIGHTMARE: Flagging Abuse based on Political Correctness is Not Fair

 

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Humor can also be thought provocative and often is a weapon to win an argument. So why Censor it ? We are not exchanging punches after all just words, ideas and images ...

 

As such when they occur No one is hurt except in one's Ego at worst.

 

I hope the new Administor of this site Mister Said Amin will understand that many contributors including me who have contributed regularly for 12 years now do so with an online personality which we have shaped overtime and which are now immediately recognizeable particularly if we do it with full accountability, name and identity.

 

Expecting us or demanding us to change our style is like killing us online and castrating us from what defines our personality.

 

If we do otherwise then we tend to disappoint those who support our stance and expect us to react.

Personally I react to a given blog or comment based on my own convictions and not what others may want us to say or expect us to say. That's how I operate. others may operate differently. 

 

Best,

 

Darius KADIVAR

Paris, FRANCE

IC Contributor since August 28, 2000 

 

//iranian.com/dkadivar.html