Persian Realm

DK Jaan

Love  most of your posts & contributions.

Wishing you a happy holiday season.

;)

SP I guess it's My Anti Iran Tirade Vs YOUR Anti Humanity Tirade

For someone who claims to be a major in History, you should know better ...

Murder in Sarajevo 1914

Instead of making Dumb Comments as usual ...

But Then I guess our different perspectives of what is good for Humanity is a Question of Values N'est ce pas ? 

Your Pseudo Republican Virtues :

VIRTUE IN TERROR: Maximilien Robespierre and the Reign of Terror (BBC)

VS My Constitutionalist Ones:

HISTORY OF IDEAS: Ian Davidson on Voltaire's "English Exile"

HISTORY FORUM: The Age of Enlightment in France and Europe.

But I guess to convince us of your deemed Moral Superiority and Legitimacy I guess YOU need to prove us that YOU are a Good Reader :

GOOD READ: All You Need to Know About The Enlightment Philosophers

before boasting arrogantly to be the outstanding History expert more obsessed by spelling and grammar rather than content.

So Please allow me to conclude my Anti-Iran Tirade by borrowing a Republican Quote From My Country's President:

LOL 

lol w/Darius

Yeah, I meant it. You made a lot of sense right up to the anti-Iran tirade.

Don't you get tired of that? What am I saying? Of course you don't. That's your whole raison d'etre.

Thank You SPink Jaan Coming from a Clueless Schizo Blurper

Like You I take it for a Compliment ! 

Roozbeh_Gilani Jaan

Thanks for your feedbacks.

I have always been a proponent of a Constitutional Monarchy and the British Model has always been one I have admired and continue to admire and see it one that could indeed serve as a model of National Reconciliation and Democratic Reconstruction.

After 30 years of our own "Cromwelian" Republic I believe we deserve it and would benefit from it greatly.

The Question today is whether or not as a nation we can reach that common understanding as the British So Far and until further notice despite it's ups and downs have been able to do and maintain to date.

The Other Model of course is Spain:

HISTORY FORUM: Franco's Ghost- Spain's Painful Road Towards National Reconciliation

ROYAL FORUM: Spain's Royal Family Cut Budget For First Time In History

Darius

You should have ended your comment right after "I am not so sure." You made a lot of sense until you started up again with your predictable anti-Iran venting.

Not just Britain also happened in Italy's Republic (Berlusconi)

These are symptomatic of a much deeper crisis in the Western due to the economic crisis.

The Violence in proportional to the frustrations people feel with what they deem unjust: Unemployment, social injustice, political incompetence to name a few.

Berlusconi attacked at Milan rally - 14 Dec 09

For 30 years after WW2 in what became known as "Les 30 Glorieuses" in France  the West benefited from a social and economic growth unprecedented in the history of mankind with the US Marshall Plan which helped reconstruct Europe from the rubbles of WW2.

The Oil Crisis of '73 and then '79 were two successive blows to the European economy hence the unemployment issue that has crippled our economies since.

One of the great ironies of France's May '68 revolution was that there was No Unemployment issue in France at the Time, nor was there any particular reason for the the uprisings except an aging political establishment deemed out of touch with the youth and embodied by an aging Charles De Gaulle who despite all his services to France was unjustly seen by the Youth as a dictator.

But today's Crisis is Far more deep in not just Europe but all Western Democracies due to the economic crisis and the general loss of credibility of a political establishment both in the US And Britain which are engaged in a costly and bloody war in Iraq and Afghanistan which they have a very hard time to come to terms with.

On the other hand the Rise of Economic Giants such as China or India ( a Former Colony) or even Russia where Nationalism is replacing the inferiority complex which inflicted Third World Countries for the past 100 to 150 years is turning the table of values and priorities in the world and distributing a new world order equally economic, strategic and political.

Hence the Chinese Snub of the Nobel Peace Prize

China anger as Nobel award looms

which has totally lost credibility as an Academic institution since the controversial awarding of President Obama last year and seen as a Political tool of the Western Governments to justify their own democratic Institutions seen as an arrogant attitude by non western powers.

Where in My opinion we are mistaken to rejoice is the fact that the fall of Western Powers in the World which in the past 70 years since the end of WW2 were seen as a Beacon of Freedom and Hope will be challenged by new Powers for whom democracy comes second to nationalism and a thirst for political and geo strategic recognition they have always been deprived of.

The genuine danger is less the loss of credibility of the Western Political Establishment in general than the lack of understanding of the rising Asian Powers of the road taken by the world's Oldest democracies to reach a common understanding of what democracy means and the price paid to have one and keep it.

The sufferings endured by Europe and America during WW1, WW2, the Holocaust are overshadowed by Europe's Colonial rule which for the majority ended more than half a century ago yet is often used as a pretext by former colonized nations or even Iran today of having been exploited.

The question is will the Rising Economic Giants like India, China, Russia offer a social model in a near future which would meet the democratic and humanistic standards from when the West largely benefited throughout the 20th Century and particularly ever since the end of WW2 and the creation of the Not so United Nations in 1948 ?

I am not so sure.

When a Bellicose regime like that of the IRI calls for the death of Western Powers since 1979, or it's President Organizes a Holocaust conference with total disregard to the victims (not just jews but gypsies, homosexuals, Negroes from German Colonies in Africa, mentally sick patients on whom the Nazis did experiences on)

HOLOCAUST A MYTH: Michelle Renouf on Iranian SAHAR TV

thus joining hands with the most undemocratic and racist political parties in Europe who rejoice at Ahmadinejad's comments each time they hear him:

Jean Marie Le Pen say's Holocaust Gas Chambers a minor Incident in WWII History 

or  When Ahmadinejad demands reparations for so called WW2 damages

Ahmadinejad Demands Compensation for WWII Invasion

when Iran hardly paid the heavy price of a country like France under Nazi Occupation despite having largely benefited from much of the western help at the time:

pictory: Allied Troops Bring Medical Aid to Iranian Children during WW 2 (1940's) 

And contrary to the Germans, Italians or Japanese which were seen as enemies of the West, Iran on the contrary was encouraged to join the Victory Parades as an Equal Ally of Democratic Powers:

Iran in London WW II parade

As Much as economic victory and rise of geo strategic influence is always a source of pride for any nation, it is wrong to think that the Fall of Democracies should be a source of joy to ANY Nation which aspires to seeing the same democratic become a standard in their own country.

As Such, what is happening in the UK, Italy, France, or America as opposed to Rising economic powers in Asia is not something to rejoice from.

If The Ruling class and political establishment in these Western Democracies are to blame but so are the people who thought for more than half a century that Democracy was to be taken for granted.

As for other's who arrogantly rejoice from this decline of the West, and who see in the likes of individuals such as Holocaust Deniers like Michelle Renouf (which they ignorantly present as a "Human Rights" Activist) a Role Model ... 

Well not only they don't know what they are talking about but more tragically are leading their people on a dangerous and unpredictable road to oblivion and totalitarian endorsements for which humanity at large paid the most heavy price.

History is bound to repeat itself if we don't learn from it:

Iran in London WW II parade (2)

Clearly many including on this thread still haven't.  

My Humble Opinion,

DK 

Protest to his royal higness for selling his country

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=eixlkiplLX0&feature...

That top photo is hilarious.

That top photo is hilarious. Thanks for posting.

DK: The British ruling class has been getting it for sometime

now. Perhaps since one of their Kings also called Charles was beheaded by the republican movement under Oliver Cromwell..

In my view the key difference between British Royal/Ruling family and our own is that the Brits learned the survival lesson very quickly, and gave up on the idea of absolute rule in favour of constitutional democracy. And I can tell you they are quite popular with the average Brit.

BTW I studied and lived in England for almost eight years before moving to US, where I've been living and working for the past 14 years. I can tell you that the British system of Governance is for more democratic than US version. So I find your obsession with anything British rather healthy!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Monarchy's Demise

Ahhhhhh..... The British royal family!!  one can say only two things about them : A) Richest clan on the face of this planet and 2) Bunch of sorry ass freeloaders.  Hey mates...get out of British commonwealth alltogether whose wealth you have stolen for more than a thousand years.  Hang man cometh!!!!!!  Monarchy just does not cut it anymore, especially in this day and age.  You hear that Reza?

0about them

Let Them Eat Cake, if They Can't Afford College!

Thanks DK.

That worthless Charlie, cheating on Diana with this old nag!

The Shah Must Be Grinning Now ;0)

Well Now the British Get a Taste of What Our Sovereign Had to Put Up With ...

LOL

Comme Disait De Gaulle: La réforme oui, la chienlit non ! ... 

Hee Hee