Faramarz's Latest Rambling

Dear Hajminator

Your point #1 is 100% valid.  Since my real first and last name start with F, I chose this name in haste several years ago.  Since I don't believe in changing or using different IDs, I kept Faramarz Fateh.  i wish I had given it more thought back then.

As for your 2nd point, I sort of disagree with due apologies.  Some of the blogs on Iranian.com are read by several thousand readers.  You can easily see the number of times YOUR blogs were clicked on if you are logged into the site.

When issues are brought up that people may have not thought about, or brought up due to taboo and discussion takes place, people learn from the interaction.  The learning doesn't happen all the time or for all blogs. But nevertheless it happens.

You are correct in saying that the path of Iran's history is being paved by the young men and women living in Iran. I am in 101% agreement with you.

But that does not preclude us in the West to do this little bit here in the cyber space.

One can never get fat on too much food for thought.

‫آقای فاتح

‫عذر میخوام همینطور میپرم وسط مطلبت. این موضوع اولی هم که میگم هیچ ربطی به بلاگت نداره. ولی شما که اینقدر از عرب و اسلام بدت میاد،خودت یک اسم کامل اسلامی داری! خیلی عصبانی نشی عزیز، ولی با این المی که برداشتی، یک ‫اسم ایرانی الاصل بیشتر اثر خواهد کرد.

‫راجع به بلاگ هم بگم که نظر من و شما برای موندن کسی در سایبر اسپیس اثری نخواهد داشت. روی این سایت ما چند عضو فعالیم ؟ ۱۰۰−۲۰۰، ... بگو ۱۰۰۰. این ۱۰۰۰ نفر این گوشهء دنیا با تایپ کردن چه اثری بر موندن آخوندها در ایران خواهند داشت؟ تاریخ ایران را دارن جوونهای ایران با خونشون مینویسن نه ما ۱۰۰۰ نفر با کلیکهامون. اینطور فکر نمیکنی شما؟

Dear Capt

To answer your question, may I refer you to my last blog which you have read and commented on?

I cannot say it clearer than that.

G.W. Bush and his admin (personally and in terms of their actions in Iraq) were and are still evil.  But they are out of power now.  

Why?  There is, on a relative scale, democracy praticed in the U.S. of A. 

Have to add

that you don't find more kaneh poosideh tar than disguised Basijis.So good luck .... I heard one of their theoreticians, Shah Gholam, saying that the battle for Palestine plays in the US! Do you know more abject and coward than this?

I think

that those who support IRI and live in the US are simply not honest and do not follow IR's foreign policies excluding any relations with the great satan. Isn't it true that one of the slogans chanted in IR is death to America? So how can people like Molla Nassredine, Mehdi, Shah Gholam, Jaleho, etc. pretend that IRI's values are good and that US are what mullahs say, and still live here?
So, I vote YES. These people have to return to IR or Palestine or wherever they preach their ideology.

Lets see

Question: Freedom of expression only applies to what we like to HEAR?? Other than that is evil???? Do I have it correctly?????

Who are we to judge?

-YT 

P/S I am certian everyone is aware of my personal dislike for the person subject of the thread. Soe e tafahom nashe khodaie nakardeh >:|

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Tof too rooyeh

har qui, who lives in the west and backs the criminal IR regime which kills, rapes our youths in Iran. May these adamnama evils return to where they come from: Hell.

Have we shut our mouth on this?

Wondering what Jaleho has to say about this

Hmm...Now you are ordering me

I guess now its OK for you to assume the position of authority and tell me to stop talking/blogging!    LOL  

How ironic.  Your true colors are slowly but surely showing.

"known evil is better than unknown forces who claim to be good. The least benefit is that you know how to react to the known evil, but you never know what kind of forces are those who are arriving. By shutting people`s mouths without being in the position of authority as you have just done, how do you assure me that your evil will be less severe than that of the Islamic Republic`s if you get to power. "

The above is bar far one of the most moronic statements I have read in a long while. Thanks for the laugh.

Mr. Fateh, I did not put

Mr. Fateh, I did not put myself in the Sardar'e Deevaan Ghazaa to weigh people's good and evils like Mithra.  It is you who brands people and tell them to shut up and go somewhere because that person doesn`t agree with you. 

You are right.  The Supreme Leader in Islamic Republic of Iran is elected by the member of the Leadership Assembly of Experts (who are directly elected by people) according to the constitution which has granted them such an authority.  It is totally legal, however anyone can dislike it.  Many people do not like existing laws; but people have voted for that constitution and have given authority to those in legal positions.  The same assembly is also authorized to remove the Supreme Leader.  You may refer to the constitution of the Islamic Republic.

Regarding to good and evil; it is not as clear cut and black and white as simple-mided emotional people believe and jump to conclusions.  Even in Western universities they do not teach about them as you did.  Whatever evil Islamic Republic is, you personally would rather to live in Iran under the same ruling government than in Iraq or other war zones.  Even known evil is better than unknown forces who claim to be good.  The least benefit is that you know how to react to the known evil, but you never know what kind of forces are those who are arriving.  By shutting people`s mouths without being in the position of authority as you have just done, how do you assure me that your evil will be less severe than that of the Islamic Republic`s if you get to power. 

Thank you very much.  Talk and let others talk.  No more word Sir. 

FF

Such an emotional and strong worded blog is going to attract attention.  I'm not sure I agree with your tone but it's for damn sure most decent Iranians agree with your point.  Some just want to muddy the waters by acting like it's about your harsh tone.  This "allowing" difference of opinions has GOT to apply to everyone or no one. 

Souri.  Your comment was personal and offensive.  Attack or dispute the subject of the blog or else don't correct others when THEY make personal comments.  That was out of line.  I think you are too much of a lady to follow in the footsteps of others that do and then cry "poor me".  I say this with much respect and regard for you.

Sam.  Your comment reminds me of the old saying. "keep your friends close and your enemies closer".

Maybe it isn't up to any of the individuals here to make that determination but Homeland Security certainly can. 

Q... I assume you're suggesting that Jaleho should come out and indentify herself.  Live in the US. Hide behind a fake name so you can periodically visist Iran, have some good food, and collect the rent money that the IRI guarantees for you. And then come back and pretend you are a (secret) "freedom fighter".  Great idea!!!!!!  Well, except we all know she's not a freedom fighter...:-)

Mr. Avaznia

I clearly stated in my blog that I have no authority.  Why do you keep going back to that?  Your computer screen does not show that part of my blog or do you selectively read my blog or you just have decided to ignore that part.

George Bush, with the W or without, is an evil doer himself.  The Iraq war as unjust as is the actions of the IRI.  However, the reigh of George Bush was 8 years.  His ass was thrown out of office by the American public.  Do Iranians have access to the same right?  NO!  We saw what happened with the last elections.

George Bush was elected by people.  Who ELECTED Khamenei?  He was appointed by a bunch of evil uneducated filthy Mullahs.

Answer this question, YES or NO if you consider yourself a moral person (not someone in position of authority): Is IRI regime evil or no?   

Mr. Fateh, your definition

Mr. Fateh, your definition of evil, Sir, and measures that you take is as short-sighted and self-centric (if not more) and George Bush II's which is an evil in itself.  I say that you are not in that position to define evil with an evil that you advocate and it is imposing your difinition upon difference of opinions.  This will not end with Jaleh or X and Y.  It always has started as you just proposed and will continue as deep as your own circle.  Right here you clearly showed that  without being in any position of authority, you have put yourself in the position of judge, sherrif, and police of morale just because someone has expressed an idea that you don't like.

Mr. Avaznia, you still choose to ignore evil

Perhaps you are under the impression that by repeating an opinion you can turn it into fact/truth.

In my blog I have clearly indicated why I believe poster JalehO and her elk need to go back to IRI.  That is, support of evil, evil ideology, evil behavior.

It would be one thing if I was calling for lets say lynching of JalehO; sort of like how the youth in IRI are hung from I-beams and cranes without due process.  All I am advocating in my blog is to send JalehO and ardent supporters of IRI back to the country and regime they so love.  What is wrong with that?  Is IRI soooooooo bad that you think it would be like exile?!   Your thought process does not make any sense.

You seem to be equivocating sending JalehO back to IRI with harsh treatment.  Please tell me what is harsh, especially for a lover of IRI, about living in IRI ?!!!!!! 

Mr. Fateh.  These days have

Mr. Fateh.  These days have provided a unique opportunity for some people expose themselves as what they really are; and what dreams they have for others.  Sir, you clearly have indicated that you have no respect for anyone who thinks and writes not in a way you like; and if you were in the position of authrity you would have treated otherwise thinkers harsher than many dictators.  Months ago I wrote right on this site that there is no reason to believe that secularism is more geltle than Islam towards its opponents.  Do you see a difference between your own stand and those whom you criticze and you portray them to be as you believe they are?  The only difference that I see is the fact you are not in power to implement your measures.  Do you not think that for the same reason people have lost trust in your way of thought?     

Who cares?

Honestly, I don't get all the obsession with her.

Reading her blogs is like reading "Kayhan"! There is nothing original or genuine in her ideas or writing or voice, etc...Basically, her style and whatever she writes is cliche and her actions and reactions are expected and easily predictable. So I don't think she has ever managed to convert or to convince anyone here.

Plus, I find her useful, since she reminds me of the reasons to appreciate my freedom here and to be grateful not to be living in Iran!! Plus, I see that many use her as a punching bag to calm down their frusteration with IRI. Anyway, if she leaves Iranian.com, probably another pro-IRI "id" would replace her...right? So why even bother, dear Faramarz?

Mr. Avaznia, since you missed it the first go around

I repeat what I wrote with the hope that you can comprehend English:

"JalehO's blogs are written to justify and further the cause of evil; that is, IRI's regime.  Her blogs are talking points given to her by elements of the IRI for publication on high traffic internet sites.

To that end, I will do anything and everything to expose her and put pressure on her in any small way I can.  Obviously I am not the sheriff of cyber space and cannot dictate who can stay here or who can go.  Neither am I the secretary of Homeland Security Dept. with power to deport JalehO.

If I did, her ass would be on the first plane back to Iran." 

Irandokht

I am sorry....I have so little respect for you (yes even less than Q) that I cannot spend any more time responding to you than these couple line.

With all due respect

 If Congress does not have the right to censor others.....don't you think it a bit drastic for us to do so. Now, I may not necessarily agree with  Jaleho's views but I certainly would not tell this individual to go back to Iran.

Now, given that the current President of Iran is not a citizen or resident of the U.S. please do feel free to censor and deport him back to Iran. Don't forget to throw some shoes at him too. :o)

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

www.usconstitution.net/const.html

Mr. Fateh has to wait until

Mr. Fateh has to wait until he gets to the position of authority and power and then tell people how to think and write.  He is not in any position to ask anyone how to think and how to write.  No government will wait for his stand or Jaleh's opinion to pursue a policy.  So the harm that he is attributing to Jaleh's opinion is just a justification for vilifying someone that he doesn't agree with.  I cannot imagine if he and those of his elk get to power, they do any better than those whom they criticize.

رئیس فاطی کماندوها نطق کردند(تخم دو زرده کردند)

طرف دوباره زبون درآورده, تا همین دیروز توی زیرزمین ایرانین دات کام قایم شده بود و پشت سر هم نوار توی تنبان آخوندیش را عوض میکرد, حالا آمده ادای حاج مصیب چک وصول کن را در بیاره. رو که نیست سنگ پای قزوینه.

when it comes to evil, one cannot be silent, Faramarz is correct

Dear IRANdokht and Souri, sometimes I don't agree with Faramarz Fateh. However, the comment he has on this thread addressing Capt_Ayhab is a very valid comment,  How would you guys think if you heard about someone who after General Pinochet came to power, went on and supported him on TV?  For that matter what do you think IRANdokht of other ones who spent energy defending the right of such person ?  Faramarz is absolutely correct where he says in his comment:

"JalehO's blogs are written to justify and further the cause of evil; that is, IRI's regime.  Her blogs are talking points given to her by elements of the IRI for publication on high traffic internet sites."

Irandokht

"I will join Q in thanking the universe that you have absolutely no power."

Should we instead thank the universe that the IRI, the regime Q supports, is in power?

در فارسی‌ مثلی‌ داریم

در فارسی‌ مثلی‌ داریم که میگوید: مرگ خوبه ولی‌ برای همسایه. 

کسانی‌ که هوای آزادی را در آمریکا و اروپا استنشاق میکنند و جمهوری اسلامی را تجویز برای ملت ایران، از پیروان آن مکتب هستند.

FF

What a ridiculous blog and how pathetic even for you! As soon as I think there is absolutely no way that you can stoop any lower, you surprise me with yet another complete bigoted input. Same goes for Minadadvar. 

I will join Q in thanking the universe that you have absolutely no power. What is the difference between you and all the other fascists and dictators in the world? How is it your business who lives where and what they think?

Don't get me wrong, if you had any valuable point that you'd discuss as an adult, I would fight for your right to express your opinion. But so far I have not seen any value to your hateful blogs or comments.

IRANdokht

FF,

Why would you like to oust the only pleasure we have on this site? Han? Jaleho is Keyhan's speaker on IC and it's really fun to respond to her BSs.

Souri

Thank you for capitalizing HAVE TO.  I may have missed it otherwise.

Mr Fateh

No I was not worry for your marital status, just got curious how far someone would go for expressing their ideas. ....

And yes, you HAVE TO stay polite when answering my question because as you said yourself, this is you who first had brought the subject here for disucss by all.