Some things just never change. On the good side, we will always continue to be family oriented, mystically minded, spiritually natured characters in love with our food, heritage, envioronment, architecture, and poetry. Even if our country is balkanized and split into 10 little countries, our culture will survive another millenia.
On the downside, we will always look up to someone to save our constantly mourning asses, be it Mahdi or Soshyant. We will always kiss ass to the one supreme authority, whether it be the King of Kings, the Ghebleye aalam, or Vali-e faghih. We will always be fighting amongst eachother, and looking for the easy way out.
Some patterns just dont change. Some habits are just so hard to break. Call it determinism, call it genetics of the inevitable. The perrenial traits are there.
Take this fine example:
The president, the highest (supposedly) elected official representing the country of Iran is on record here saying:
"Let me give you another example of Iranian science and ingenuity, so youll know how advanced we have become. Right now, we have a person in Iran, who looks at the ground, gazes at the shrubs and surface vegetation, and tells you exactly what ore deposits and minerals exist below the surface of the Earth at that spot. And he guarantees it. He tells you there is metal here, manganese there, etc. This is a form of science, and we are using him right now to search for precious metals."
So tell me, is this not a re-occurence of scrying with the Cup of Jamshid?
Do mind that I'm not judging anything here. I'm just saying that some patterns seem to be repeated over and over again in certain societies. For better or worse.
I'll leave the interpretations of that up to you.
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No AO
by Demo on Thu Sep 06, 2012 05:35 PM PDTThnx for your straight 'NO' response. Answering 'No' to your question as well. Saving your 'NO,' however, for your upcoming blog about the 'GOD' whom you do not believe exist! GOD forbids!
No Demo
by Anonymous Observer on Thu Sep 06, 2012 05:28 PM PDTAgain, can't speak for Fesenjoon, but I do not believe in that tale either. It's a good story, and fun to read but that's all it is: a story, and a figment of some creative mind's imagination.
Now, you're not going to tell that this invalidates the entire Persian history, are you?!!
Yes or No Question?
by Demo on Thu Sep 06, 2012 04:51 PM PDTJust asking a very simple question from AO & Fesenjoon. And you both are refraining to answer that!
Fine. That is your call & respecting that. Let's try it this way now with a simple Yes or No question & asking You Two Your Honors to respond, please:
Do you believe in the legendary divination of the 'Cup of Jamshid?' Yes or No. Thank you in advance for your responses. Regards.
Demo
by Anonymous Observer on Thu Sep 06, 2012 04:18 PM PDTI can't speak for Fesenjoon, but I'm an atheist. I believe in science and evolution. I believe that all religions are creation of the human mind so that it can answer question to which it has no answer. But in this day and age, religion is obsolete. We don't know everything, but someday we will.
Fesenjoon
by Anonymous Observer on Thu Sep 06, 2012 04:15 PM PDTDawkins is THE BEST. Here, watch this video, beginning at minute 16:30, especially to minute 21. It shows the evolutionary process in the formation of the laryngeal nerve in giraffes. Asbolutely awesome.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL9FLibliUI&feature=related
Dude, I've seen the Daily Show exchange. That was a great one.
ei baba
by Fesenjoon2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 03:52 PM PDTStop beating around the bush, Demo. If u have something to say, say it.
Attn: AO & Fesenjoon2
by Demo on Thu Sep 06, 2012 03:30 PM PDTWhy is it when 'amirkabeer4u' asked the blogger about his/her belief in 'Cup of Jamshid,' the response was 'Tell me your belief first. I'm interested to know.?' Would AO & the blogger state their 'beliefs' or their opinions about that cup before getting into the 'cup of dawkins?' Thanks.
AO, you gotta see this
by Fesenjoon2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 02:33 PM PDTBrilliant:
//www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=6H9BuxeNro0
Dawkins is always fun to watch
by Fesenjoon2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 02:26 PM PDTHeres another Dawkinsian moment with muslims:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XRCYlZ4XOQ&feature=related
Nice video from Dawkins Fesenjoon
by Anonymous Observer on Thu Sep 06, 2012 02:15 PM PDTI hadn't seen that one despite being one of his biggest fans. I agree with you. More than anything, Islam is a political / military doctrine with a slight infusion of recycled relgious ideas from Chritianity and Judaism, both of which were simplistic, patriarchal, trash philosophies to begin with. Garbage in, garbage out in that sense.
The roots of Islam's emphasis on political and military doctrines obviously had to do with the internal power struggles of the Arabian tribes at the time of Mohammad. He, of course, was able to consolidate power in his person by cunningly using his "religion" and Khadijah's wealth. Quite telling that his own ucle, the man who raised him, never converted to his religion. The man knew something, and had principles. I have the utmost respect for him.
And the other video is just outright scary. Seeing that sea of people cheering the notion of cutting people's heads off. But I'm sure there's a Zionist conspiracy there somewhere. The video is probably a fabrication made in Israel. :-)))
One thing about Dawkins
by Fesenjoon2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 01:48 PM PDTOne things about Dawkins is that he recognizes that Islam is actually more dangerous than Christianity, if compared side by side.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=15UjzHMETS0
Islam, unlike Christianity, was designed to be a political ideology. People like Demo can deny all they want, but at the end of the day, this will always be the face of Islam:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFAkmsszTD8&feature=related
Seriously, Fesnejoon
by Anonymous Observer on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:05 PM PDTReligious fanaticism is a disease that has plagued Iran for millennia. Someone should force our people to watch this video--for starters, at least:
//lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/06/dawkins-evolution-is-not-a-controversial-issue/?hpt=hp_c3
Demo 2
by Fesenjoon2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 08:16 AM PDTI'm not even concerned with AN. We know he's a big fan of the occult and crazy conspiracy theories.
My focus is rather on the goosfands that are always sitting there in the audience listening to him with motefakkeraneh looks on their faces.
RG
by Fesenjoon2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 08:06 AM PDTThose Imam Naghi jokes are really funny :-))
amirkabear4u
by Fesenjoon2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 08:02 AM PDTTell me your belief first. I'm interested to know.
Demo joon
by Fesenjoon2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 08:01 AM PDTThe movie 300 was a crappy piece of fiction IMO. Disfigured women and post-apocalyptic punk kings. Are you kidding me?!
But I also noticed that Hollywood silently tried to rectify that film by making "Prince of Persia", which cast a positive light on ancient Iran. As expected though, most Iranians ignored it. We have a habit (as Iranians) of seeking and seeing the empty half of the cup. Somehow, we are always attracted to the negative part of things. We are a constant siyaah-poosh culture. Which is what this blog is about.
ای فسنجون: اول ایمان بیاور!
Roozbeh_GilaniThu Sep 06, 2012 07:41 AM PDT
دوم: نگاه کن این پایین، ببین چطور این آقا زده میخواد رد گم کنه و به خند!
سوم: یک حدیث در باره این گفتار ملیجک دربار خامنهای هست، به این شرح:
امام نقی (ع) با الهام از ائمه پیش از خود، تنها با یک نگاه به سبزه های مزبله (زن زیبا رو در خانواده بد)، معادن جواهری که زیر عبا و برقع پنهان داشتند کشف و شناسایی می فرمودند.
ایمان بیاوید!
Yeah dude, I did notice that
by Anonymous Observer on Thu Sep 06, 2012 07:22 AM PDTPretty funny. They should have gone all the way back to his prehistoric ancestors. I mean the guy must have crawled out of the water at some point. They should have just continued with the genealogy with something like Ibn triceratops, Ibn coelacanth, Ibn protozoa, Ibn basic amino acids...
AN Knows Nothing But Lies!
by Demo on Thu Sep 06, 2012 07:19 AM PDTNothing new about AN's lies. He is a professional lier & nothing new about that. But besides the Cup of Jamshid story, please let us know your own opinion about the 300 movie's tale. Fiction or real?
Fesenjoon
by amirkabear4u on Thu Sep 06, 2012 01:30 AM PDTTell me do you believe in Cup of Jamshid?
Did you count the number of
by Fesenjoon2 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:14 PM PDTDid you count the number of ibns in his title? The guys in blue jeans are also funny.
Dude, check this out -
by Anonymous Observer on Wed Sep 05, 2012 08:56 PM PDTthis is what a country's official news agency "reports:"
//www.mehrnews.com/fa/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID=...