بجز شعار "استقلال، آزادی، جمهوری ایرانی" یکی دیگر از شعارهای معروف مردم به جان آمده همان "نه غزه، نه لبنان، جانم فدای ایران" است که چون از دلها برآمد فوراً بر دلها نشست.
حجت الاسلام والمسلمین محسن کدیور که یکی از دانه درشت های بخش اسلامیست جنبش سبز است و سفت و سخت معتقد به قانون اساسی نظام پر برکت و تطابق دین مبین با دموکراسی که البته در ینگه دنیا زندگی میکند سه شنبه شب مهمان برنامۀ تفسیر خبر صدای آمریکا بود.
از جمله سفسطه های ریز و درشتی که حجت الاسلام کدیور بافت که البته با در نظر گرفتن حرفه ایشان قابل درک است، یک عدد دروغ گنده هم چاشنی آنها کرد که تو کت هیچکس نمیرود.
حضرتشان در بارۀ اهداف خود و همکارانشان از جمله فرمودند:
"ما، اولویت اَولمون، این را هم موسوی ذکر کرده و دیگر رهبران جنبش سبز و مردم هم در خیابانهای ایران فریاد زدند، هم غزه، هم لبنان، جانم فدای ایران، این شعار اصلی مردم ایران بوده نه مسائل دیگر".
"هم غزه، هم لبنان"؟
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Kadivar lost the little credibility he had...
by Pari on Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:32 AM PDTKadivar lost the little credibility he had by not only lying about this particular Shoar but also talking contradictory about where he stands with many other issues. On the issue of 'Velayat e Faghih' he said he was against it but he for for Iran's Constitution to be executed exactly as is. He also said he was against any kind of discrimination but then again he thought Iran's Constitution ha d all the democratic elements. He also spoke as he represented the Green Movement in America. I have yet to see anything to indicate that people have asked him to represent them. Even Mosaic and Carob don't make that claim.
The most surprising element for me was lack of challenge from Ms. Derakhshesh when Kadivar said 'Ham ghazeh, ham lobnaan'. To let him get away with that obvious lye simply was poor journalism.
benross Jaan ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Jun 23, 2010 05:03 PM PDTI think You are Right.
That is why upon Restoration of the Monarchy I would like to see the Introduction of the Fessee aka spanking as a Public Humiliation each time an Akhound lies as a generous substitute to the far more dramatic public executions:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=igw9Q5-tJ08&feature=fvsr
That way they won't seek to repeat their silly behavior without giving it a serious thought !
It remains Fairly Harmless But Oh Boy What a Humiliating experience that would be ;0)) And what better way of getting over one's Schizophrenia ( Mon Surmoi) and put an end to any clerics political ambitions ...
I can Right Now Imagine the predicament of Mohsen Kadivar's Behind ...
LOL
Now just Try and Imagine Hamid Dabashi's ... ;0))
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX9SPTSY1iU
DK john!
by benross on Wed Jun 23, 2010 04:38 PM PDTWhat An Olagh ... Mohsen Agha is Giving me a Bad Name ...
It's time to face the reality DK jan. You have a double personality, like all Iranians. You never know which one comes out when!
WA HAPENT?
by Majid on Wed Jun 23, 2010 04:15 PM PDTNo comment from Mr. "Surgical attack" here?
That's a little strange! Doncha think?
A. Keivan ...Damet garm.
Comme A Dit Brassens: Quand On est Con ...
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Jun 23, 2010 03:12 PM PDTOn est Con ...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gznDOMKeWkA&feature=related
LOL
I understand under late shah, people had to swear alligiance to:
by fooladi on Wed Jun 23, 2010 02:26 PM PDTKhoda (Allah), Shah (valihe fagh), Mihan (Gaza), in that order.
Not much changed really, excpet allah and valih are knocked into one. As for the Mihan bit, well it is really a matter of opinion, isn't it?
The Funny Thing is he Endorsed the Monarchy in ... Japan ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:34 AM PDTand other constitutional monarchies in Europe as a Model for the Velayeteh Fagih if he were to be merely a Symbolic figurehead in an Islamic Democratic State.
I laughed so hard when I heard him say this so innocently as if he could overlook his own country's Royal History and heritage by suggesting a Turbaned Monarchy as a substitute.
This REALLY ... I Mean REALLY shows How Naive he is ...
Thank God ... ( Or Allah) cause I used to think these people represented a Threat intellectually speaking due to some credibility of some sort but now I realize how dreadfully out of touch they are even with their own constituency.
To think that Shirine Ebadi's recently published Novel La Cage D'Oree starts with a quote of Shariati of all people ...
Maloom Shod deegheh Noonoh Panireshoon roh as koja Meekhoran ...
Nourizadeh's slight critic of Shirin Ebadi as opposed to Ali Keshtgar's comment :We Are All Iranian Baha'is!:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcP7Hyk4OBQ
Een Reformistha Hamaroh Gool Zadan ... Az Nobel Commitee tah Mardomeh Khodeshoon ...
They merely used Ebadi as their Trojan Horse to give themselves some credibility in the eyes of the Westerners to present Khatami as the Iranian Gorbatchev and the Reformist Movement as their Perestroika:
Khatami, Democracy, & Islamic Republic :
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUza-yhd9dM
People won't be fooled a second time with their Lobbies either ...
Tables are Turning ... The Fun is Over for the IRI Think Tank who is now forced to be accountable for their own failure and cheating everyone with their pseudo Democratic virtues and ANN TELLECTUAL qualifications ...
They never had a ground breaking Vision anyhow ...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX9SPTSY1iU
هم غزه هم
ardeshir keivanWed Jun 23, 2010 11:01 AM PDT
هم غزه هم لبنان
هر دو فدای ایران
It is good that they are coming out of their holes
by cyclicforward on Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:49 AM PDTPeople are beginning to understand who these characters are.
kadivar olgh
by free vs islam on Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:09 AM PDTNorth Carolina: he should be in sought Carolina.
Take a good look at this Olag, these KALAM heads are from Mousavi green camp? KHAR AGA KADIVAR . ONE MORE TIME: NA GAZEH NA LOBNAN JANAM FADAYEH IRAN.
I wonder why the hell even they interview these morons and it is a shame that even these people to get a oppertunity to talk.what is olag could talk about but ar ar kardan.
Too bad Shirin Ebadi trusts such guys: Kadivar, Dabashi, ...
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Jun 23, 2010 09:34 AM PDTand other Panalists of the IRI Think Tank on Capitol Hill ...
She deserves Better Company don't you think ?
Dabashi, Kadivar & Haghighatjoo: Khordad 1388 - June 2009: Part 1 :
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sirNVOssmeg
Dabashi with Ebadi and Kadivar at Emron University:
Hamid Dabashi, Seminar on Iran's 2009 Election :
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFo1TR0Tq50
Shirin Ebadi, Seminar on Iran's 2009 Election :
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LUyBGmbDiY&feature=channel
Boshke training at its finest. Fits a molla perfectly
by oktaby on Wed Jun 23, 2010 08:48 AM PDTlying and bastardizing everything.
OKtaby
The Video Passage of Mohsen Kadivar's Gaza/Lebenon Comment
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Jun 23, 2010 07:53 AM PDTحرفهای دروغ جناب شیاد دروغگو: آخوند محسن کدیور
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcTpmFLlank
قدیمیا یه چیزی میدونستن که گفتن سگ زرد برادر شغاله
comradeWed Jun 23, 2010 03:21 AM PDT
آهای، شماها یی که با بزرگان، پالوده نوش جان میکنید و راه به
اندرونی از مابهتران دارید: بر حذر دارید دوستانتان را در صدای آمریکا از
نشیب آبرو باخته گی. گوشزد کنید به آنان بیراههٔ رسوای بی بی سی را.
Never late to learn....//davidharvey.org/reading-capital/
کدیور دانشگاه دوست
FredWed Jun 23, 2010 03:11 AM PDT
اکبر گنجی به نقل از مجید محمدی مینویسد: در شیراز، به گفتهی مجید محمدی، جلسات تعطیل کردن دانشگاه در منزل محسن کدیور تشکیل میشد. در آن جلسات محسن کدیور، عطاء الله مهاجرانی، مجید محمدی، ابراهیم نبوی، توفیقی (وزیر فرهنگ و آموزش عالی خاتمی)، کوچک زاده (نمایندهی مجلس فعلی)، کریم شورانگیز(استاندار کهکیلویه و بویر احمد در دوران محمد خاتمی) و... شرکت داشتند.
//www.ettelaat.net/10-juni/news.asp?id=47853&sort=Iran
عطاالله مهاجرانی وردست رفسنجانی و خاتمی شوهر خواهر محسن کدیور است
خانم جمیله کدیور مهاجرانی هم جزء گروه حجت الاسلام کروبی بودند و قرار بود معاون "رئیس جمهور " شوند. هردو زن و شوهر در لندن تشریف دارند و وب سایت شاخه اسلامیست جنبش سبز را اداره میکنند.
Astag Forella Shirazi Ham Hast
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Jun 23, 2010 02:41 AM PDTNow that will Tarnish my Name in my Dad's hometown too ...
Shucks !
Not to be confused with a GENUINE KADIVAR ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Jun 23, 2010 02:34 AM PDTWhat An Olagh ... Mohsen Agha is Giving me a Bad Name ...
LOL
So Repeat After Me:
NAH GAZEH, NAH LOBNAN, JANAM FEDAYEH IRAN !