Musings of a former chicken

Souri

You seem to have some sensitivity towards Tudeh and would like people not to talk about it. Well, that's not going to work, I am afraid.

Every day on this site people express opinions about Shah, Reza Shah, Reza Pahlavi, Dr. Mossadegh, Ghajar, MEK, NIAC and a whole bunch of other topics. Tudeh is also fair game.

If Tudeh needs to be defended, why don't you lay out the defense, and if this is a sensitive issue for you, just skip the posts? Isn't that how the freedom of speech is supposed to work?

Thank you again, Fred

Thank you. 

All ideologies lead to corruption

There is absolutely no doubt about the treachery of the Velayate Faghih, on at least four fronts:

1) Treason towards the Iranian muslim movement; for falsely  pretending to be a political party representing the muslims , but in practice colluding with the worst elements of corrupt classes.

2)Treason towards the entire islamic movement of Iran;  for causing division and confusion (immediately after the revolution, Mojahedin Khalgh- which were successfuly broken up by Velayate Faghists-were the biggest islamic political party, numerically, that Middle east had ever known...)

3) treason towards the entire Iranian nation for being the Fascist islamist regime, on orders and as agents of corruption, to defeat the 1979 revolution.

4) last, not least, treason to it's own members who were mass executed by the islamist regime in 1980's, after each individual had served it's purpose.

To Conclude, using the treason of the Velayate Faghihists as a stick to beat the entire islamic opposition, to ignore the sizeable islamic opposition to islamist rule, to ignore tens of thousands of Iranian muslims who have died at the hands of Pahlavi dictatorships, for their desire for islamic & social justice,  is an old & tired  habit of rabid shahollahis and communists, which we have no shortage of on this site. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

anglophile jon

shoma shayad bardashtid, vali zaheran kheili ha hanouz mashghouland!

Decent left?!!!!

ما دست از سر حزب تودهٔ خیلی‌ وقته که برداشتیم ولی حزب تودهٔ خیال نداره دست از سر ما برداره.

Mr. Rahmanian, agreed !

"Exposing those who share(d) the blame for the calamities of the past
three decades is part of any struggle against the current regime."

But how many times? How long?

Toudeh party is inactive since almost 30 years. If, you still have to prove their  "calamities" to the people, after all those years of trying non stop , this should say somtheing to you. Am I right?

Souri Khanoom:

Exposing those who share(d) the blame for the calamities of the past three decades is part of any struggle against the current regime. It's a learning process for all, except for those who have developed some kind of immunity to learning and change.

Very Well Put!

"Their desire for social justice is a virtue, their failure in achieving it within the policies of the party takes nothing away from their honorable aim."

Tudeh was never a 'working class party, it began as a 'Popular

Front' anti-fascist formation, on the orders of Stalin to help USSR  in its fights.

Do we all know the difference between a proper Working Class Party, and a mere "popular-front" formation?

Communist Party of Iran had real thinkers, with independent thoughts and actions within it. Soltanzadeh's thought was actually a lot closer to Trotsky's idea of permanent revolution than you might think.

Too bad you're  very unfimiliar with Soltanzadeh's historical writings on Iranian society, or Trotsky's take on Marx's idea of Permanent Revolution. Then again my good friend, you're a true product of Tudeh in its degenerate stages!

Fred: Yes, a commitment to social justice is a virtue. Tudeh Party has had many giants in its ranks. But , after a total diaster in 1953, another total disater after 1979, and a close to a total disaster in exile again, it is too little to late.

Vaseh fati tonbon nemisheh!

Fred jaan, why don't you write about  the decent  Left  in Iran? People like Mostafa Rahimi (RIP) and his comrades? Thank you.

آقایان محترم

Too little too late

Actually, the evaluation by the Toudeh party members, both current and former, although it is most if not all by the former members, is and should be welcomed and encouraged.

Their desire for social justice is a virtue, their failure in achieving it within the policies of the party takes nothing away from their honorable aim. Not all members were traitors and many were and are very honorable and decent people who love and want the best for Iran and Iranians.

Learning from where they went wrong from their own insider account is invaluable for the road ahead. The party apologists can also continue doing their thing, good luck.

I guess Heidar Amoo Oghli's vorasa

were the Maoists who never did anything but damage in Iran. Not that many workers in Iran were ever pro any other leftist group besides Tudeh which was the party that worked for the ideals of Heidar khan. Anyone who denies that has been espresso drinking in diaspora not being in actual demonstrations in Iran. otherwise they would know better.  Ask those who know and it was Tudeh who brought tens of thousands to May demonstrations after revolution.

On the historical treachery of Tudeh Party

Long before Tudeh Party  in Iran we actually had a Communist Party of Iran. Led by people like Avatis Soltanzadeh and Haidar Amooghli. This organization and the Adallat (Justice) party before it were the formations responsible for introducing workers to Labor laws, and all other types of Labor reform.

Tudeh party in almost every single phase of its existence 1941-1953, 1953 to 1979, and after the revolution has had nothing but stabbing Iranian people in the back, and now some of them are beginning to "evaluate" the historical mistakes.

Too little too late.

Roozbeh, all the laws for working class people in iran

were because of efforts of this party. You are the khaen who lies like this, and don't try to exchange comments with me because you simply don't want to accept the truth. You just want to continue with your lies.

Roozbeh_Gilani

علامت سئوالی در کار نیست، با خروارها سند و مدرک که نمیشود به خیانت این حزب شک کرد.  شاید منظور شما شمارۀ  ٢ است که نشانگر ادامۀ بلاگ قبلی است که در پی نوشت آدرس آن داده شده.  

Fred: Why the Question mark?

There is absolutely no doubt about the treachery of Tudeh party, on at least four fronts:

1) Treason towards the Iranian working class movement; for falsely  pretending to be a political party representing the working classes, but in practice colluding with the worst elements of ruling classes.

2)Treason towards the entire left and socialist movement of Iran;  for causing division and confusion (immediately after the revolution, Fadaaiian Khalgh organisation- which were successfuly broken up by Tudeh party-were the biggest leftist political party, numerically, that Middle east had ever known...)

3) treason towards the entire Iranian nation for working hand in hands with the Fascist islamist regime, on orders and as agents of KGB, to defeat the 1979 revolution.

4) last, not least, treason to it's own members who were mass executed by the islamist regime in 1980's, after the Tudeh party had served it's purpose.

To Conclude, using the treason of Tudeh party as a stick to beat the entire left opposition, to ignore the sizeable left opposition to islamist rule, to ignore tens of thousands of Iranian leftists to have died at the hands of Pahlavi and Velayat faghih dictatorships, for their desire for secularism & social justice,  is an old & tired  habit of rabid shahollahis and hezbullahis, which we have no shortage of on this site. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Fred

Via their association with socialists in Europe....the Ex Toodeh members, along with other Iranian leftists have now found other ways to hurt Iran and their new host countries.   We have a ton of them here in USA - and they have all been PLACED well enough to be politicaly active against Iranian and American interests!!!  

Fred, Great Point

Thanks for posting.