Musings of a former chicken

the stupid ss argument

he is 84. back then he was 15 !! He was a child when Hitler rose to power. I am amazed at the level of intelligence of these Israeli firsters (that includes Netanyahu).

What else have you got? Nothing! 

Günter Grass's Fans!

A quick look at Günter Grass's fans on this thread says a lot about the poem!

Name-calling, Flaming, Attacking the messenger-It's No Use, Fred

"The nuclear power Israel is endangering a world peace that is already fragile."

It's good to be a Marxist/Leftist and German........

Had Gunter Grass been an Iranian Marxist/Leftist, he'd have a long time ago been arrested, tortured, murdered  and burried in one of many known and unknown mass graves, like tens of thousands of other Iranian leftists & marxists,  by the very same Islamist fascist rulers of Iran who are now cheering his stance for peace. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

The return of "Disenchanted" as reader1

welcome back!  

Membership in the SS is defended...as long as The Jooz are being

denounced. Some folks will defend anything and anybody as long as they are against those Evil Jooooooooz.

Distortion of truth!

As a matter of fact, he does refer to the plight of Iranian people as "being oppressed by a petty dictator" in his poem!

Speaking of Gaza Tearjerkers ...

Three prisoners, including one accused of collaborating with Israel, have been hanged in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

It's just a poem !!

It's just a poem !!  Israel supporters please don't be upset. At least pretend that you stand for democracy and freedom of speech. 

Israel has it, has never signed the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty, and if needed will be going to drop it.  TIme to move on to the next interesting subject and that would be the Shah of Sunset. 

Gunter was drafted or may be volunteered to join SS ..

... at age 17 , the same way Israelis are currently drafted to serve in offensives in Gaza.

Yes, Grass admitted he belonged to the Waffen SS

Not that there is anything  wrong with that. The Jooooz have made up all sorts of things about Nazi Germany in order to justify their extermination of the innocent Palestinians.

Germans should think twice

Germans as a country who is responsible for holocaust should think twice before say anything!

Didn't Gunter Grass belong to Hitler Youth?

And welcome back Comrade/Pendar-e Neek/ Jomhurikhah...BTW, is it a Zionist/MEK/Mossad/AIPAC/neocon thing to call the Hitler Youth antisemitic? West-residing IRI Groupies, please advise.

Confused Hajjis

Confused Hajjis need to address the content of the blog and not make a guess at what the silent majority might be thinking.

A deliberate misrepresentation of what Gunter Grass said ...

... in his poem.  He was merely expressing his concern that Israel "could wipe out the Iranian people" with a "first strike". He is not an anti-semite and nor are the majority of Iranian people. His views are shared by a "silent majority" of the world's citizens including a sizable decent Isrealis.  I doubt you have read the poem, herewith what he said:

Why do I stay silent, conceal for too long
What clearly is and has been
Practiced in war games, at the end of which we as survivors
Are at best footnotes.

It is the alleged right to first strike
That could annihilate the Iranian people--
Enslaved by a loud-mouth
And guided to organized jubilation--
Because in their territory,
It is suspected, a bomb is being built.

Yet why do I forbid myself
To name that other country
In which, for years, even if secretly,
There has been a growing nuclear potential at hand
But beyond control, because no inspection is available?

The universal concealment of these facts,
To which my silence subordinated itself,
I sense as incriminating lies
And force--the punishment is promised
As soon as it is ignored;
The verdict of "anti-Semitism" is familiar.

Now, though, because in my country
Which from time to time has sought and confronted
Its very own crime
That is without compare
In turn on a purely commercial basis, if also
With nimble lips calling it a reparation, declares
A further U-boat should be delivered to Israel,
Whose specialty consists of guiding all-destroying warheads to where the existence
Of a single atomic bomb is unproven,
But as a fear wishes to be conclusive,
I say what must be said.

Why though have I stayed silent until now?
Because I thought my origin,
Afflicted by a stain never to be expunged
Kept the state of Israel, to which I am bound
And wish to stay bound,
From accepting this fact as pronounced truth.

Why do I say only now,
Aged and with my last ink,
That the nuclear power of Israel endangers
The already fragile world peace?
Because it must be said
What even tomorrow may be too late to say;
Also because we--as Germans burdened enough--
Could be the suppliers to a crime
That is foreseeable, wherefore our complicity
Could not be redeemed through any of the usual excuses.

And granted: I am silent no longer
Because I am tired of the hypocrisy
Of the West; in addition to which it is to be hoped
That this will free many from silence,
That they may prompt the perpetrator of the recognized danger
To renounce violence and
Likewise insist
That an unhindered and permanent control
Of the Israeli nuclear potential
And the Iranian nuclear sites
Be authorized through an international agency
By the governments of both countries.

Only this way are all, the Israelis and Palestinians,
Even more, all people, that in this
Region occupied by mania
Live cheek by jowl among enemies,
And also us, to be helped.

MvP, It's reality and a baby will be here in less than 9 months!

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhh3me9c4Bg

Dr. Love, Ph.D., M.D., J.D., Member of Iran-Israel Love Making Association.

Iran and Israel touching........

........I don't see much comedy there.........there has to be a reason for the blue strips on the Israeli flag........one depicts the Mediterranean sea........The expansionist Zionists have be stopped.........no jokes there.......

Israel touching Iran

" Iran and Israel could be touching each other and the 2500-year dream of
Cyrus and Moses will finally come true, together and in one piece."

Sounds like a romantic comedy, if you know what i mean. ;)

Anti -Semites Truckers' Magic!

A group of only 2500 of such ASTs taught BiBi a lesson in 2006 Lebanese war that he would never ever forget!

PS: It's about time more people like Mr. Gunter Grass come out and tell the truth & nothing ut the ruth! The world might then be a better place. During WWII, people were afraid to speak agains the Nazy Germany, and we all know what happened. Now they are afraid to speak against Israel for being branded anti-semite.

FYI: Semites are Arabs! Anti-Semite then becomes Anti-Arab! Doesn't it?  

Make no mistake and have no doubt!

Iran loves Israel and Israel loves Iran! In fact, Iran should not mind at all if Israel annexed the rest of Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon as its promised ancestral territory. With Iraq as its 35th Ostan, Iran stretches westward near the greater Israel border. Iran and Israel could be touching each other and the 2500-year dream of Cyrus and Moses will finally come true, together and in one piece.

Cyrus and Moses! Persepolis and Jerusalem! Like a binary star system, turning around each other.

Dorood and Shalom to Cyrus and Moses!

Dr. Love, Ph.D., M.D., J.D.,

Join the Members of Iranian-Israeli Love Association.

Thank you for proving my point Fredowitz!

In your Israeli firster world view, anyone who opposes the criminal punishments of ordinary iranians through the means of economic warfare and physically warfare must be an islamist  anti=semite.

DO NOT WORRY FRED

BiBi has the support of Romans.. OoOops, I meant Americans this time.  The world will be crucified for his selfish desire, for his ego, for his stone cold heart and for his chosen race.  There is no God but BiBi and he gets the final word. 

AND you are right the  Gentiles trucking does not worth a SHIT. 

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Keep on trucking!

Thank you to all the Islamists/rabid anti-Semites and their likeminded lap poodle of lefty allies for proving the point of the blog by their asinine comments. Keep on trucking!

MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Has Fred's true self ever been hidden?  He prayes 5 squared times per day to the God of Israel the one and the only BiBi.  And he is very proud of it.  

Congrats for revealing your true selves Israeli firsters.

Congrats for showing that contrary to what you write on an Iranian forums you have Israel's and only Israeli interest at heart. you do not care if ordinary iranians suffer the consequences of war and crippling sanctions.

 Congrats for your hasabra campaign, for cherry picking Gunter Grass' view points to suit your agenda. He is very well against the despotic regime in Iran. 

 Gunter Grass is many things, his poem sucked, but he broke a taboo in Germany which all you Israeli firsters hate. Criticizing the all mighty Isreal for their crimes and illegal behavior which puts it on par with the regime in Tehran.  

Sanity's Voice?!

Case closed!

Right, said Fred. You are

Right, said Fred.

You are becoming the only voice of sanity on this forum.

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Sooner or later the Zionist regime has to understand that is stretching it too thin. Time is indeed fast approaching...........Israel has to go back to her international borders of pre-67, and relinquish her policy of nuclear ambiguity by signing the NPT..................The Zionist regime of Israel which has virtually enslaved the Jewish people must recognize that world can no longer afford her stubborn attitude and irrational expectations............It seems to be just the beginning of the end...................Isn't the "Passover" time suitable for reflecting on one's wrong doings and taking corrective action, before it's too late?