Musings of a former chicken

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Mien Führer

Mien Führer, either Obama is the President or not, if he is, then like it or not the entire policy is his.

BTW if you are really interested who backs the Jundullah murderers ask your Islamist Rapist brethrens who have been fighting Saudis through  a proxy war in Pakistan for many years.

You are too green, do not skip class.

Again, clueless Fred

foreign policy establishment is not a one man show.

good try though, distracting form the main point of the thread, which is Jundullah and its friends.

Mien Führer

Mien Führer, your own words:

 “the foreign policy establishment still runs on neocon”You are too green , do not skip class.  

Who said Obama is a neocon?

Stop putting words in my mouth. What I'm saying is that he is continuing the Bush policies. Does it make him a neocon ideologically? I dont believe so. I believe he is a pragmatist who likes to appease the major forces at play in order to push his policies foward inches by inches. do I agree with what he does as an Iranian? no.

And conveniently, you still have not responded to my question about Jundullah's ties with the "democracy central".

fooladi, you still have not seen a fully destabilized iran, dont kid yourself. and dont try to justify the actions of wrong doers (even if they are against IRI).

Mien Führer

Mien Führer either Obama is the Commander-in-Chief and the buck stops with him or he is not, if he is then what is all your nonsense about him being Neoconservative?

Look what happens when you skip your Islamist demagoguery class, your Islamist Rapist brethrens are way more competent in twisting and turning facts.  

Your nonsensical argument about people/forces around him make him be Neoconservative can be used for any and all other U.S. Presidents.

Again you are too green, do not skip class.   

"when iran is fully destabilized by military strikes"

A reader commented.

I say: Iran is already more than fully destabilised thanks to islamist khalifat regime. US and Israel can save their ammunition for another occasion, region, country where their interests are truely challenged.

clueless Fred

Shows how much you know about policy making in the US. Obama is no superman with god like powers Fred. He is influenced by the forces around him, by political pressure and what not.

Again, do you refute my point that Jundullah is supported and funded by the "democracy central"? or do you refuse to acknowledge anything that goes against your world view?

//www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/0807...

Closet neoconservative

If you say so mien Führer, of course it is hard for Islamist Rapist Republic supporters to face up to the ugly truth.

Yah right Obama is a closet neoconservative, blaming all but IRR is your specialty.  

You are too green, do not skip class.        

the foreign policy establishment still runs on neocon

and to say otherwise is ignorant and foolish at best. the campaign for military strike/sanctions is right out of the playbook of hawkish pro-war lobbies in washington. the entire narrative is neocon filled nonsense, anything else is portrayed as an appeasement in the mainstream media.

And Obama of course does not have the spine to say no to them. He needs them infact if democrats want to not get destroyed in November.

And despite what you black and white IRI like neocon apologists say, they too share the blame. IRI is not alone in this.

not to mention last time I checked, CIA was still funding jundullah.

//blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_ne...

//www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/0807...

Earth to mien Führer

Mien Führer in part says: 

“They are not helping the region by isolating Iran. neoconservative policy for iran is foolish and extremely anti-iranian.”

Earth to mien Führer, the people running things now are many things Neoconservative they ain’t.

The good old days of Bush when IRR's supporters and lobbyists blamed all the savagery of their Islamist Rapist regime on “neoconservatives” is long gone.

No one else to blame, time to own up to what monstrosity the Islamists/Anti-Semites and their likeminded lefty lap poodles have and are supporting.  

Ps. to IRR supporters Islamist Rapist Republic and Iran are one and the same, to sane people they are not.   

This is just a glimpse ...

...of things to come if/when iran is fully destabilized by military strikes and/or sanctions. IRI is party of the blame but the so called civilized world should also take note. once Iran goes past a certain destabilization point, various elements will try to fight for a piece of the pie. it will destroy iran as we know it.

They are not helping the region by isolating Iran. neoconservative policy for iran is foolish and extremely anti-iranian. Need I remind you all what the Jane Harmans of America think about Iran?

Only one "ideology" can and is filling the political vaccum

created in Iran by almost 60 years of Bruital suppression of any secular ideological alternative: The political islam.

So here we have, the young men who very rightly are outraged by the virtual religious and racial apartheid imposed on them by the islamist khalifat regime, in their own homeland, instead of being mobilised under a revolutionare party focused on overthrowing the regime, blow themselves and other misguided Iranians up in the name of Islam.

Terrorism of any kind should be condemned

But, the Islamic Rapist Republic had this one coming to them.  As Fredson says, equal and opposite reaction.  When IRR supports terrorism against Americans, israelis, Europeans and South Americans, then it cannot accept sympathy from the world.  Especially since most if not all dead were Basij, Pasdars and high ranking IRGC commanders.  The same elements who would have strapped bombs and blew up synagogues, churches, soccer gatherings and other venues.  Well perhaps they are going to meet the 70 virgins promised to them don't you think?

That is SO RIDICULOUS!

Fredsy Rumpelstilzchen, this blog doesn't become your usual (somewhat) good brain, which I've so far enjoyed cyberstalking.

Pinning an "objective" universal law of phyics onto "subjective" human behaviour patterns (interpreted as such!) - just too much. It's beyond 'folk physics'!

Making scientific claims with no evidence whatsoever to back it up, just to gain credibility.Tut tut!

Too ridiculous and desperate to even discuss. (Try , who is funding whom....)

If I had a mind; I'd change it.   - Marjaneh

I wonder...

If this has anything to do with Shahram-gate!