Musings of a former chicken

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Nilofar - you realize Tim thinks Christian Jihad is good forIran

Don't waste your time. Religious nuts are all the same.

NP jaan

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tim

yes absolutely. you understood right. you are a neocon warmonger.

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kouroshs

well, one thing that is important is that you obviously do not read my comments before responding. but, every time i mentioned you did not respond to my question, i also said it's not important... really, i don't care if you do not respond, but i do care if you claim that you did. see the difference? but that too, is not really important.

tim

you are so full of neocon garbage - it's quite shocking that after the americans voted that garbage out with bush, you still hang on to cheney's ideological skirt and bold lies. good luck to you. i have little time for you

NP

I don't speak for the Iranian people. I speak for myself.

I have not even responded to esmail. I have never insulted him in any way. Nor questioned his right to his opinions What gave you that impression.

NP

what is not Important? Other people's opinions?
Hmm. I should have know that would be your response.

Trust me. The "rest of us" won't even bother listening, so i won't bother talking to them.

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kouroshs

that's funny, i keep telling you it's not important...

careful you don't trip over as you turn back to talk to the rest of us who are way behind you. 

vpk

By what authority do you speak for the Iranian people?  it is a question that can be asked of anyone. including you.

if nothing else, esmail is another iranian view. by what authority do people here hound and insult him?

Peace

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Niloufar 2

" i just don't think that you represent the view of most iranians. i find esmail to be more representative."

Read my previous post again azizam...you are wrong, is all I can say. I believe there are both schools of thoughts. It happens that the one I disagree with has hijacked my motherland for the past 30 years. As for which is the majority..I ask how many like to be ruled with an iron fist, and which ones hold the guns?

How many you think???

Esmail represents the view point - as VPK pointed out - that you agree with. That's all.

I have no stakes other than wanting to see my motherland free and her people enjoying the prosperity they so much deserve. It is impossible to achieve anything positive with the bunch ruling Iran now - IMPOSSIBLE.

"who said we have to have this regime to be independent? who said this regime was ideal?"

You and those who behave like you say it every single day here and elsewhere - That's who. Besides, if you agree with this esmail character, then you've already answered yourself.

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Niloufar

who said we have to have this regime to be
independent? who said this regime was ideal? i just don't think that
you represent the view of most iranians.

By what authority do you speak for the Iranian people? You are one person with your own opinions nothing more.

i find esmail to be more
representative.

You mean more to your liking. Right if you like it then it is representative.

Niloufar

I am not trying to please you. I do believe that people who support this idiotic excuse of an government are traitors. Look at how many Iranians have left Iran. As soon as someone is able to they run away. Is that the government we want?

Regarding McCain I have always opposed him long before you knew me. My criticism of McCain is not half hearted. It is full and heart felt. I have not insulted you because I show people respect. But you have directly insulted me. The funny thing is that I don't really care though. The Marxist so called "peace activist" types discredited themselves long ago. They don't need me to expose them they did that on their own.

Regarding Israel, I have never "supported" it. My main thing is that: I don't care about Israel. Neither do I really worry much about Palestine. Are you telling me that because USA killed people it excuses the IRI? What does Israel's actions have to do with IRI? You IRI supporters are programmed to scream Israel and Zionist. It is an automatic knee jerk reaction. Does the fact that US killed a larger number of people make an Iranian victim or IRI feel any better! Plus the war with Iraq was deliberately prolonged by Khomeini. There was an offer basically Iraq surrendering and Kuwait paying Iran damages. The Imam chose war . When they finally forced him to accept peace he said it was like poison to him. I know who was responsible for the deaths. 

Back to Israel. My interest is in Iran not the other places. I will say thig again. Those who put Palestine above Iran are full of it. They are the ones who want to put Iran in danger to satisfy their own idea of justice. Meanwhile sit there in their nice cozy Western homes and yell "Lengesh Kon". Why don't they go and fight Israel themselves? 

progress

who said we have to have this regime to be independent? who said this regime was ideal? i just don't think that you represent the view of most iranians. i find esmail to be more representative.

VPK

you are a little – but not much - cleverer than i thought! first you come up with a meandering
definition of 'traitor' to try and call me and a good number of other iranians 'traitors', and then you cover your backside with a
half-hearted attack on mccain. where you lost the game is in the fact
that you forgot to put all those pro-zionist and pro-american
apologists – like yourself - on the list of traitors in your definition. didn't you?

go out and treat yourself to an icelolly or something. you deserve it. when you cool down, note this: you can actually quantify – or measure – the damage done by various actors:

timeframe: 1979 to 2010

the number of iranians killed by the regime

the number of iranians killed by iraq and her backers (pretty much everyone)

the number of human beings killed by the regime globally

the number of human beings killed by israel globally

the number of  human beings killed by usa globally

the number of un resolutions condemning iran versus those for israel (despite the fact that zionists have too much influence over the un)

the number of international laws broken by iran, israel and the us

the number of countries attacked by iran, israel and usa

the number of people tortured, raped and killed in prison by iran, israel and usa across the world

before you start screaming about the
iranian regime's atrocities against iranians in the 1980s, no there is no excuse for it. there was war, sabotage and many other factors,
but the regime totally went overboard, and those responsible should
be brought to justice. but take a look at the bigger picture, and count all human beings as human beings. and you won't be able to deny that in fact, the numbers show the opposite when compared with israel and usa. yet you did not include
american and israeli apologists as traitors. how is that vpk?

tell you how: you are an anti-iranian apologist.

Niloufar

"typical Iranian view"? Are you kidding me?

Like I've said before, for every one of these so called Iranians, there are thousands upon thousands who are silent INSIDE IRAN - and just because they are, does not mean they are in agreement with the anti nationalist regime of the unelected clergy.

Do not mistake silence for submission or passivism for approval.

I have had my disagreements with you in the past as you defended the likes of that prick, Q, but this takes the prize. You guys with your zionist this and zionist that crap should come up with new stuff. That shit's gotten old dear. has nothign to do with zionism and everything to do with the filthy un-Iranian regime you supposedly "disagree" with.

For the bizilionth time:

Why do we have to have a religious/brutal regime to supposedly reap the benefits of being independent"? When was the last time any religion did anything constructive for anybody in recent modern times?

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Agh e-small

آخه پدرسوختیه عرب، اگر تو جون عمه ات ایرونی هستی که باید حداقل فارسی بلد باشی بخونی، نه؟

میگی یک سوریه عربی بهم بدین بلدم ترجمش کنم ولی وقتی فارسی میذران زیر دماغت، مثل خر توش نگاه میکنی !! عرب، که شاخ و دم نداره، جانم! ما اینجا میگیم اگر عربی، باش... فقط خودتو جای ایرونی نزن، همین!

حالا برو هی فاک، فاک کن.

esmal khan

thanks for putting my name on your comment; for as much I love and breath IRAN here 24/7 but.......

FYI for as long as mullas are looting Iran I'll have no desire to return and holding that shameful kharchangi passport.    Maziar

Nilofar parsi

i seriously cant comprehend how a human being can degenerate to such filth , they never answer any of my articles instead they are fixated on where I am from (such is the result of vatanforoush followers of mohammad reza) call me a taazi traitor and attack with insults . Im probably the youngest person here too and im still more mature than most people here. Did getting thrown out from iran on their asses really hurt them so much? thank god that happened too.

progress

for once we have someone who truly represents a typical iranian view from inside iran. why are you pushing him away? you know all that will happen is he will come back under a different name. so why not engage him?

esmail

keep cool. it's just a typical tactic to get under your skin when they lose arguments. you are the closest thing we have here to a typical iranian perspective on such matters. it is called 'iranina.com'. so stick around. as is, the place is littered with zionist propaganda... :)

tim

mccain is a fascist charlatan, i repeat.

us war machines and soldiers on drugs have surrounded iran. they have done that because they are slaughtering and pillaging on a daily basis. that you seem lackadaisical and jovial about it reveals your ignorance and numbness to human suffering. same reason that mccain jokes about bombing my people.

name me a country that iran has attacked in the past 100 years.

now name me the countries that the US and israel have attacked in the past 20 years. i won't say 100 as we don't have all day!

now name me the countries that the US is currently threatening to attack.

i find you a little shallow tim, i have to say.

im not an arab

im not an arab, get it through your thick skull,  ive had enough with the goddamn childish attitudes on this website , no wonder you are a bunch of failures in your lives and can only amount to ridicule and questioning where a certain person is from . get a life. 

There won't be an attack

as US knows it would be a mistake.

The filthy regime in Iran is itching for a war to remain in power and rape Iran and her people for another 30 friggin' years. While the US has made a lot of mistakes in its foreign policy over the years, I am pretty sure they won't make this mistake. At least, I hope not.  

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Niloufar

US also vetoed an attack by Israel on Iran thanks to G W Bush. I know this. The attack on Iraq although unjustified was quite helpful in increasing Iranian influence in region. The attack on Taliban was absolutely justified and I hope they wipe them out. There is no excuse for Taliban who make McCain and Palin look reasonable. 

McCain

is a loose cannon who says stupid things. Politicians in America are required to trash Iran just like politicians in IRI are required to trash US and Israel. This does not necessarily mean they are serious. For example Hillary Clinton made some dumb statements about destroying Iran. It was incredibly offensive and made me stop supporting her. But I don't think she meant it. The problem with McCain is that he does mean it. McCain is a nut job plain and simple or is it Palin and simple :-) Regardless we don't have to worry about him. Because the dude is too old and will be lucky to keep his senate job next election so don't worry about him. Thank god for small favours. Palin is the real nut to worry about. We should all put our effort to help Obama win next time if we want to prevent bombing of Iran.