MAHMOUD on Larry King

MAHMOUD on Larry King
by Haj Seyd Mammad
24-Sep-2008
 

Larry King of CNN interviews Ahmadinejad after his speech at the Annual General Assembly meeting at the U.N.

They cover a lot of subjects including the controversial comments such as wiping Israel off the face of the earth; denying the Holocaust; no gays in Iran; etc.

Quite entertaining - Hope you enjoy it:

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Bravo Mehdi for an excellent, factual analysis

by Ari (not verified) on

No need to say anything else. You are totally correct on the current situation and always demonstrate your un-bias and provide answers not out of hatred but balance both sides of the equation.

Now if some commentators just don't like it and want to just use insults just too bad for them.

I Love your comments!


Farhad Kashani

Mehdi, second response

by Farhad Kashani on

Mehdi, second response

 First paragraph: I have to disagree with the part that you said “right now and for the longest, I find that they all have ulterior motives. Anybody or any group who is genuinely interested in improving Iran and is wise enough to know how to approach, will find almost no resistance” The regime is anti progressive, anti Nationalistic, and anti modernism in nature. So I don’t see that happening. Our best and brightest have been marginalized and silenced by this regime. I agree with the rest of what you said.  Second paragraph: agreed, but its not because IRI has opened the door, it’s because IRI cannot stop the globalization movement, although its trying its hardest, maybe harder than most government in the world, to stop it. that “trying hard” is what has kept our country back, and caused disastrous consequences for our people.  Third paragraph: Agreed. For the most part.  Fourth paragraph: totally disagree. A- The bigger picture of Human Rights issue has become tremendously more important nowadays than it was 25-27 years ago. Some of the reports that come out these days criticize human rights abuses in countries like Sweden, US, Canada and France even, let alone Iran. The world is 1000 times more aware of issues like that.B- And I absolutely disagree with you that it is Israel that allegedly spreading propaganda about human rights in Iran is the main reason that issue is talked about. Ar you saying Iranians don’t care about the situation of human rights in Iran? I mean some of them don’t , yes, I’ve seen a lot. But the majority of Iranians have nothing important to care about than that. Their actions might not show it because of other priorities, but it is at least the most talked about issue among Iranians because if affects all out lives and is the center of all issues relating to Iran. if human rights were instituted in Iran, even issues such as nuclear energy would not be as controversial, cause through a sensible approach to the issue, which means letting the government have sensible people talking about and making decisions about the issue, which means showing tolerance and freedom of expression, the best approach would have been taken. So the core problem is the barbaric nature of the regime. The regime has closed down any possibility for making rational decisions about our country’s issues. It just doesn’t want to. It is based on irrationality.  


Farhad Kashani

Mehdi,   You did say

by Farhad Kashani on

Mehdi,

 

You did say AIPAC is the cancer of the world. And you just said that AIPAC is the source of trouble in the region. Anyways,

 

1-     Let’s say Israel “doesn’t show interest in the well being of any other nation”. First of all, that’s not true. Israel has made peace with many Arab nations and enjoys reasonably fair relationship with them. Second, Israelis elect their government to take care of their own business, not others’. Third, even if that’s the case, let’s say Khomeini was a wonderful human being that was made because “Israel was self centered”, again, how do you explain this irrationality towards Israel? So just because a government is “self centered”, Khomeini had the right to say “if all Muslim pick up a single bucket of Water and pour it on Israel, that regime will vanish from earth”? Same thing that Khameni is parroting these days?

2-     Agree with all of it, except your main claim that “most” Iranians do that. That’s actually minority of Iranians do that now. Mostly elders. Iran’s 70% young population thinks the total opposite, at least most of them do.

3-     Rightly said about other nations finding other reasons to fight. But 2 things, A – Who appointed Israel the leader of the region? They don’t even claim that. B- Yes Israel had occupied Arabic lands and it should get out, no doubt about that, but again, what most people around the world disagree with is the irrationality of Iranian regime’s actions towards Israel. You have to understand, this is not about Israel, its about the Islamic regime.

4-     Disagree with you about the Islamic regime statements, but agree with you about Israel. Israel should end this conflict by leaving occupied territories, free Arab prisoners and compensate the ones kicked out from their land by force.

5-     Agreed.

  

And your last comment, I have to say the regime has not been exaggerated, but clearly underestimated and not known. If the world truly knew the nature of this regime, things would’ve been different.  

 

  


Mehdi

FK: Your second comment

by Mehdi on

I don't see it that way. What I see is that when I left, after a while, I realized that this "fight" is really a very private fight between small groups but has managed to get everyone involved. The MKO, Cherik Fadaiee and their counterpart ultra hardliner hezbollahi/bazari, whatever. Average Iranian was not involved really, unless fooled by one of these. Those who are antagonistically fighting the regime right now and for the longest, I find that they all have ulterior motives. Anybody or any group who is genuinely interested in improving Iran and is wise enough to know how to approach, will find almost no resistance. It is only those who want to become future heroes or want power or want revenge or are not very bright that get involved in antagonistic approach and find it necessary to be violent, etc.

Contrary to what you say, IRI has opened up the doors, compared to earlier. When I left Iran was literally in shambles. I remember vividly that they weren't even updating the dividing lines on roads claiming they didn't have money for it. I remember NOBODY was able to get a visa to any country because Iranian money was so weak, average Iranian could hardly afford a flight ticket, never mind paying for other expenses. Also Iran was considered very controversial or crazy and countries would not want Iranians. This has changed dramatically. Iranians also had a hard time going for a visit but now almost all those who went to some country as a political refugee, are quite free to come back and visit Iran. This was NOT the case a few years ago. Things are improving despite what groups like MKO advertise. But with progress there is also power. As the country progresses it becomes more powerful and there is always the fear that that power could be used for evil.

Unfortunately that is one issue that Israel is running against. Israel has openly stated over and over that it will not allow any country in the region to become powerful unless that country first demonstrate tsrongly the of approval of Israel. But when you keep nations backwards through whatever treachery and force, you also create for yourself continuous danger as these are people that feel they have nothing to lose (unlike you). If you believe the official story of 9/11, witness how in the height of a feeling of safety and security, a bunch of nomads delivered such a devastating blow that its destructive aftershocks are still reverberating across the world. So if you think a lot of weapons would keep Israel safe, think again. The only thing that could keep a nation safe is having LOTS of friends. Israel must start learning how to make friends. It IS possible to do so and they must stop justifying why they can't.

It is ironic that 25 years ago or 27 years ago, Israel seemed very happy with IRI. The Iran-Contra Affair (you think Israel was not aware?). Israel had no problem with "human rights" in Iran when war the MKO was going on where many of them were hanged, etc. But now that IRI has reduced the number of executions, random killings, etc, Israel is all of a sudden very upset and is using propaganda to spread the "news" far and wide. What happened? Well, they cannot tolerate a strong Iran unless Iran first submits to Israel, like other nations that have. Those nations have had far worse human rights records for many years but Israel is not interested in those people - let them die!


Mehdi

FK: Batter late than never (response)

by Mehdi on

First of all, I never said that "AIPAC is responsible for all the death and destruction in the world.” Don't flatter yourself. What I said is that Israel/AIPAC is the cause most troubles in the region and even in the world. And I am sure you are quite familiar with that statement as it has been stated by many far more reputable sources than me. But to answer your specific questions:

1) There are many factors that caused this. One is that Israel in general show NO interest in the well being of any other country or people - extremely self-centered. That is why they are resented everywhere. Nobody likes a smart ass, as they say. This does not mean IRI has not contributed to this.

2) Most Iranians follow their "leaders" because they don't really know much about anything and they only consider these people as their "elders." It's a bit of religious beliefs and lack of understanding, etc. They chant whatever they are told to chant without really knowing what that means. The educated faction, the Tehranis, etc. generally have no interest fighting or having animosity with Israel. In fact, most don't even want to bother with Israel - they see no reason even thinking about Israel.

3) My viewpoint is that if today there was no Israel, these nations/people would most likely have other reasons to justify violence in the region. But I am afraid this does not absolve Israel of being the main responsible factor. If Israel doesn't want to be the main responsible element, it should not make itself the most powerful element. I am afraid responsibility goes with power. That's why a leader is responsible, because he has power. Israel, in a way, is now the leader in the region. But Israel is not acting very well as a leader. A leader must have wisdom and compassion and benovelance. Arrogance and hard-headedness will cause the demise of a leader. Temporary reign should not fool you.

4) I do believe that there is a difference between rational and irrational. In fact "reaction" is almost always irrational, because it is based on emotion and quick responses that are not based on wisdom and logic. No. Wiping out of masses and ethnicity are never justified. Even if someone disagreed with everything Israel stands for it does not justify the destruction of the people living in that area. Although IRI representative have loosely used destruction of Israel, I think recently when things became more serious, some of them clarified that they mean Israel the system, the regime, the ideology - not the people. Even Ahmadinejad said recently that he wants all people living in that area to have a referendum and decide the form of government, hinting that such an act would remove the Israel system/regime, and not the people. I don't particularly agree that that is the solution though. My viewpoint is that Israel must INITIATE some non-confrontational actions. Israel should do something else along with their use of force. A silly example would be for Israel to select a thousand non-Israelis in the area and pay for their education in a western country or something. Do something benevolent. Show that you can be useful to others. Such actions would open the door to peace.

5) I don't see IRI as a monolithic entity. There are elements within ANY government who are clearly working for themselves and have no interest in the country they are from - even in Israel. Worse, they are people who are insane and even their personal interest does not satisfy them. These elements, unidentified, cause tremendous amount of havoc and destruction. They usually do it while a hero too! Should I remind us of Hitler? A national hero at the time, but really just a raving lunatic who destroyed even his own great nation. So such elements will always work towards destruction of anything. They want a barren land. Sick people.

I am more than happy to help improve conditions. Mullahs are nothing to worry about if one knows how deal with the situation. They have been exaggerated way out of proportion. This is mainly because there are hidden hands at work that have not been truly identified - not the average mullah or even their known leaders.


Farhad Kashani

Mehdi, This is in response

by Farhad Kashani on

Mehdi, This is in response to your comment about Nazanin Afshar. It doesn't let me post.

 

I’m glad you brought this up.

 

When you left Iran, IRIs crimes were fresh for you. You can feel it. after staying outside the country for awhile, it fades out. On the other hand, IRI has closed Iran’s door to any outside exposure, thus, most of its crimes against humanity in Iran is unknown outside of Iran. They have done a marvelous job of that. Furthermore, in the U.S, there is a culture of care and human dignity. So people get used to the culture of supporting victims. Now that the communication means have revolutionized, Israel’s crimes against Palestinians are magnified 1000 times more than IRIs crimes. So, bottom line, in the eyes of someone who resided in the West, and lost some touch with Iranian people’s suffering, Israel is the one to blame. So automatically there is an assumption that just because Israel kills Palestinian, then automatically its the guilty side in its conflict with the IRI.

 

That’s what I mean by the IRI winning the propaganda war.  


Farhad Kashani

Mehdi, lets assume for a

by Farhad Kashani on

Mehdi, lets assume for a second that AIPAC is “responsible for all the death and destruction in the world”, for the sake of the argument, let me just ask you these following simple questions and see how you going to respond:

 

1-     Who started the animosity between Israel and Iran that caused AIPAC to “do nothing but conspire against the lovely regime of Iran!”? Why doesn’t AIPAC ask for the destruction of Jordan or Egypt although they went to war with it 3 times and as we speak, are helping Palestinian groups like Fatah which is fighting Israel?

2-     Do Iranians agree with this irrational animosity coming out of the IRIs mouth?

3-     What about the centuries old conflicts all over the world, especially in the Middle East, which have not been solved yet, and examples are numerous, that had nothing to do with Israel, hows AIPAC responsible for those?

4-     Generally speaking, do you believe that there is a difference between “rational” and “irrational” reactions? Or do you believe any “reaction” is justified to an action? Example, do you believe the wiping out of Germany would’ve been a “rational” reaction to the crimes the Nazis did?

5-     What do you believe the ultimate goals of regimes such as IRI, and is puppets like Hezbollah and Hamas are? Freeing Palestine and that’s it? Do you think it ends there? Before you answer this question, I will refer you to this following documents: IRIs constitution and Hamas charter.

  

I will help you expose Israeli crimes, no problem, but you have to help me and the 70 millions Iranians who are losing their lives and country under this regime, which is the real CANCER (let me take that back, Cancer is curable if diagnosed early), the real AIDS of today’s world, get their country back and free Iran from a vicious, moronic and savage regime.  


Kaveh Nouraee

AO...

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Don't forget that next week October 8th at sundown, Yom Kippur starts.

I'm sure Mehdi will be using that opportunity to perform teshuva to atone and repent for his vitriolic hatred of others based on their religious beliefs.


Anonymous Observer

Mehdi - Happy Rosh Hashanah!!

by Anonymous Observer on

Since today is the Jewish new year, I figured I drop you a note and wish you and your family a prosperous and hate free year.  Enjoy this lovely video:

 //www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6RuURE9Y44

Persia is Eternal.


Mehdi

Farhad Kashani: Because of international crime AIPAC

by Mehdi on

Do you know that when they order IAEA to not approve something, they can't? Until we get rid of this cancer (AIPAC) there will be no peace on Earth. Help me expose these vicious criminals. People are finding out, but we can speed up this process. Let's all join hand expose this shameful group of pathetic losers.


Mehdi

Anonymous111: Why do you feel compelled to re-write my comments?

by Mehdi on

People can read them. Why do you have to falsify them? Why can't you ever answer? What is this compulsion you have? I told you beofore, I have NEVER even brought up Palestinian issue, except in examples and as making points. So try a new lie.


Farhad Kashani

Mehdi’s “illogic”  

by Farhad Kashani on

Mehdi’s “illogic”

 

If Iran has “co operated with the IAEA more than required”, then why does the IAEA say “Iran has not cooperated with us and has not answered all the question and has not provided all the documents”??? that’s logic, ha? Or outrageous fabrication of undeniable fact?

 

Your beloved regime’s irrational position towards Israel has and is destroying Iran. Because irrationality is an undetachable part of this regime’s core nature.  


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Mehdi - Please Take Your Medication!!

by Anonymous111 (not verified) on

So, you call me a liar because I said that you scream about Palestine all the time, but in the next paragraph you scream about Palestinians being killed by "Zionists"!!!

So, let's get this straight. Your response to the video of mass killings in Iran is either or both of the following:

1) They did not happen, and this is all foreign propoganda, and / or:

2) If they did happen, they were justified because of the Israeli / Palestinian conflict. In other words, mass murder of Iranians is OK, and indeed justified, in retaliation for Palestinians that are killed by Israelis.

May God save Iran and Iranians from people like you!!!


Mehdi

Anonymous111: I have never screamed or even discussed Palestine

by Mehdi on

You are a aliar. I only at times refer to the bloodsuckers in tel Aviv as land thieves. I don't think anybody has any dispute over that fact. there are even UN resolutions about it. But when you are a shareholder of the stolen land, of course, it is very hard to notice truth.

My problem with Israel is that it wants my family bombed. 

And as for your link, I am very familiar with MKO propaganda which has been assisted by Zionist media. And that's exactly why I know Israel is the real cancer in the region and once it disappears, as it is by itself without anybody doing anything, you'll see an era of peace in that region. Take those videos and put it next to 60 years of baby-killing by your favorite Nazi regime and you tell me which one is worse.


Mehdi

Farhad Kashani's logic

by Mehdi on

He says if Israel doesn't even let the NPT in Israel it is better than Iran who has cooperated with the IAEA more than what is required. Of course any blind would know that even IAEA is afraid of Israel and their powers otherwise they would have left zero doubt about Iran long ago. Criminality of Israel is unknown only to the rich and greedy - they can never see it.


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Mehdi, What's Your Opinion on This One?

by Anonymous111 (not verified) on

Mehdi,

Instead of all your yelling and screaming about Israel "grabbing" Palestinian land, why don't you tell everyone here how you feel about IRI's atrocities against the IRANIANS. Here's a link form a blog that is recently posted entitled "Iran a Big Prison".

//iranian.com/main/node/40422

Since you are such an advocate of freedom and fairness, please tell everyone what your position is on this video.


Farhad Kashani

Mehdi,   Two

by Farhad Kashani on

Mehdi,

 

Two things:

 

1-     Yes Israel should comply, but the Iranian regime A- has 0 credibility when it comes to the world looking at it as a responsible and sane government. B- The regime is saying that is not developing nuclear weapons, but at the same time its not cooperating with the IAEA and is not adhering to U.N resolutions.

 

2-     tell you beloved Iranian regime that the people of Iran are well aware that the regime wants the nuclear weapons because it knows it will be able to A- strengthen its survival possibilities B – Terrorize the Iranian people C_ Terrorize the world 4- Possibly giving them to Islamic fundamentalist groups to use them in their worldwide war.  

  


Farhad Kashani

Niloufar,   Journalists

by Farhad Kashani on

Niloufar,

 

Journalists should ask the tough question and the questions that matter. Its not just me who is frustrated with the world not asking the real questions from the Iranian regime which results in them not understanding it, but Khamenei’s monkey himself was annoyed because he said “the last 4 years you guys have been asking the same question”. That’s called irresponsible journalism.

 

Nuclear issue: I don’t have to tell you that IAEA itself has said a thousand times that Iran is hiding info and is not cooperating with us. What do you think they have to hide? You tell me! Also, IAEA is incompetent yes, partially because of what you said, and partially because they simply do not have the tools to do it.

 

Islamic fundamentalism has taken in to a whole different level. Yes, all fundamentalism is rejected, but are you that naïve or just not seeing whats going in the world to see how Islamic fundamentalism is about to threaten civilization as we know it? When was the last time that a Jewish or Christian fundamentalist hijacked a plane or hit it into a building? When was the last time that one of those two strapped himself with explosives and bombed a girl’s elementary school in his own country? The examples will take days for me to mention.

 

Talk: Talk about what? Please tell me? Supporters of regime like yourself always mention “talks”, but never, ever , say what should these talks be about? Your last paragraph is exactly why the regime doesn’t wanna “talk”, because the regime doesn’t want the world to know whats going in Iran, and it doesn’t wanna soften its rhetoric, cause to them, that’s a deaths sentence for them, and that goes back to my original argument which is the world should ask the right questions. And you know what, they have started, just read NPRs and LA Times’ interview with him. Totally different than Larry Kind’s.

 


Mehdi

Farhad Kashani: the freedom fighter

by Mehdi on

How about Israel flatly refusing to even be a part of NPT? Oh, use, I forgot Mosad directive - you should never discuss Israel - you are ONLY here to demonize and spread falsehood to help the Israel's cause of war on Iran (more land theft). Since when are Zionist interested in Iranians and their "problems?"


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Farhad

by niloufarParsi (not verified) on

Larry king did a great job and was quite firm while friendly. He was clearly keen to learn more about Ahmadinejad's perspective. This is an example of how journalism should be. It is an interview, not an interrogation session.

Your ramblings about the nuclear issue are clueless. Fact is that Iran is among the most NPT compliant countries in the world today. USA, France and Israel are among the worst violators. The main reason why the IAEA is so 'incompetent' is because its member states and their close allies are so badly in violation of its own Treaty. It cannot possibly be bullish with Iran when it has so totally failed to deal with Israel in all these years.

Islamic fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism and Christian fundamentalism are all mirror images of one another. Why are you keen to unleash one on the other?

Your last para betrays the fact that you are fully aware of just how well Ahmadinejad responded to several issues. His call for dialogue was his winning card. He wants to talk.

The influence works both ways when you talk. The IRI might well soften up and open up if it sits around the table with other powers. Its internal actions would be more visible to the world if it were friendly with the rest of the world in this age of communications. It would then have to listen to its own people, and its own guards and gatekeepers would refuse to oppress their own once the foreign 'threat' is suddenly removed. It is time to talk.

Peace.


Monda

And Ahmadinejad's interview on Democracy Now

by Monda on

For those of you who are interested:

//www.democracynow.org/2008/9/25/stream

 


Mehdi

Mona 19: what are you talking about?

by Mehdi on

Did I slander you? I don't think I have ever talked to you? Are you talking to me?


Farhad Kashani

Real quick on the

by Farhad Kashani on

Real quick on the interview: the media around the world has been so soft on Khamenei’s monkey (i.e the appointed and selected so called “president” of the illegitimate regime), that its just pathetic. U.S, Europe, Asian and ther media, never asked the right questions. Larry King killed his reputation by repeating the same ol dumb question, that even Khamenei’s monkey himself said that why you guys keep repeating the same questions??!! And then they tried to give him a human face for asking about his children !!! Thanks Turner for contributing to the suffrage of the Iranian people!!!!

 

The only way to go after the Iranian regime is through its horrific human rights records and its inspiration and support for Islamic fundamentalism. You’re not gonna get them using Nuclear Weapons or Israel issue, because nuclear weapons program is so hard to verify since we have an incompetent organization like the IAEA to do the job and the regime has taken the initiative in the propaganda war, something the U.S is just about to lose because the regime uses evil tactics and fabrications, and the Israel issue is not gonna work because Israel’s actions in Arabian lands has left little room for sympathy for them.

 

However, for the first time, NPR and LA Times went after him with questions that makes the regime understand the world is waking up to them and is after them for that. Did Larry King expect Khamenei’s monkey to say Iran is developing nuclear weapons? Or that he wants the Jewish race to be exterminated? Of course not! Of course they not gonna say it, and he has gave the same answer a trillion times!!!!! All some media want to do is to be outrageous so it attracts people to watch. Yeah the media in the U.S are free, but news in some corporate media is not necessarily only news, but rather, news”terntainment”. CNN and FOX are the most notable examples. But good job NPR and LA Times, shame on you Larry King.


Mona 19

Mehdi...

by Mona 19 on

Does the slander, name calling and verbal abuse make you look smarter and get your point across better?

Does it make you feel bigger, better, and tougher?

You should know better than me Mehdi about this verse "O you who believe! let not (one) people laugh at (another) people perchance they may be better than they."

I really like to know why do you hate us so much.

 

Respectfully,Mona 

 

 

 


Mehdi

Seagull: I don't think you speak English

by Mehdi on

Sounds more like some drug induced dazed ramblings of a very depressed and incoherent individual. I guess it is supposed to hypnotize people? So is life really that dark and incomprehensible to you? What have you done? Confession is good for the soul, you know?


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I wish that your moment of sobriety WOULD NOT BE your last momen

by Seagull (not verified) on

Habla English Mehdi!?
You need to read carefully!!
I said "I wish that your moment of soberity WOULD NOT BE....
If you spend the time and read before you jump the gun, you will learn something.

As far as repenting goes, leave it to Allah, you are excused from it anyways.


Mehdi

ali arasteh: dadash work is slow

by Mehdi on

So to entertain myself, I enjoy having a little friendly chat with our "chosen people." Others should try it. It's fun!

The IRI actually pays in sheep. For every 8 hours of work you get 1.2 sheep. But there are bonuses. When there is a great victory against mafia, you get "gifts." Of course our ultimate pay is the 72 virgins that I personally can't wait to get! But to get that we have to be subjected to that "certain amount of violence" that zion has explained in the past ;) I'd say it's a good deal, don't you?

But I am checking into Mosad pay too. You never know when these bastards collapse. One should have alternatives in mind, if you know what I mean.


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مهدی

ali arasteh (not verified)


شما چطور

از دم کامپوتر تکان نمیخوری، قربانت برو یه قدم بیرون بزن یه با د به سرت بخوره.داداش یه سوال دارم ساعتی‌ بهت میدن یا هفتگی؟چطوری به حسابت واریز می‌‌شه؟

دستت زیر سر ما از کار کردن خسته شدم به خدا.به من یه زنگ بزن.(۳۲۳)۲۴۵-۸۷۶۵.

عزت زیاد


Mehdi

Anonymous Observer: Quick question

by Mehdi on

Now, is the pay a share of the stolen land or do they pay you guys cash? :----)


Anonymous Observer

Mehdi - You've Gone of the Deep End--Again

by Anonymous Observer on

What lies?  First, I was addressing Abarmard and not you (which only proves my point that you are a "nokhod-e har ash"), and second, I asked whether or not you were "Mammad".  Where's the lie in that?  Actually, despite his ideological shortcomings, Mammad is a much more articulate person than you.  So, you should be flattered for being compared to him. 

Look, I know that you have had an overdose of endorphin production after seeing your president's interview...trust me, I understand....but that's no reason to take it out on us by illogical and nonsensical attacks...

As far as AIPAC, yep...everyone on this site who doesn't praise Ahmadinejad is on its payroll...do you even have the intelligence to realize how stupid this claim is?!!!

Persia is Eternal.