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Thank you for your tears...

I tip my hat to you my dear compatriot. For, you have the merit of fighting for the truth!!

Dear Atessa, I like to say I feel your torment, but I can't

as I did not experience it. I did shed tears not just for you but for 2 generations that have been tormented and deprived by IRR and everything since 79. Thanks for your frank description. I feel the pain, agony and see the misery wrought on Iran but I never lived it directly, even if I was negatively impacted by it like most and saw the conflict in brought to many families. I feel fortunate & guilty about that simultaneously and perhaps that partly explains my zeal against IRR. I think your experience best validates the point of many on this site and mine. I was no fan of Shah, had protested against him and even as a young teenager could see how 'shah' had creeped above 'khoda' in the famous old 'khoda-shah-mihan' trio slogan. That was the megalomania I mentioned. However, Iranians in general were a happy successful nation despite many shortcomings and flaws associated with a system that lacked democratic institutions; and I had well travelled the country so this statement is not Tehran centric. The extent of lie & deceit about pre 79 life is itself a good indicator of the kind of criminals and mercenaries that we were duped into accepitng. You also reminded me of beautiful, no... wonderful, summers in Darya Kenar.

My generation....

Thank you for your answer. I think my comment was based on emotion more than logic.  

I grew up under Islamic Republic. The time of "Bad" Shah for my generation was only in books and Regime propagandas, while the time of "good" Khomeini was an every day reality. We could only see the time of Shah via old black & white videos "Ganj Gharoon" "Soltan Ghalbha". We could see a time, when in Iran, happiness was not banned. The answer to joy and laughter was not public lashes or being clean & loving beauty was not against God & faith! So we wondered & asked & searched to understand why our parents have revolted & why they were avoiding giving answers to our unanswered questions!! The Regime’s official version on Iran before 1979 and the identical echo of Regime’s propaganda in foreign media just pushed my generation to reject this information all together and search for ourselves. They were truth that neither the Regime nor foreign historians could falsify!! The fact that what ever we had in Iran, tap water we washed ourselves in the morning with, electricity we used to study, the pavement & streets that we walked, the school we studied in, the car we drove, the bus we took, the “Candowan” tunnel to Caspian sea, the university we wanted to enter, the airport & even the airplanes we used to get out of the hell (Iran), etc, etc….were all made during Shah’s time…Everything we had, everything we used had Shah’s fingerprint, while, everything we endured, suffered or lost had Khomeini’s finger print!!

So I say, on behalf of my generation, Mohamad Reza Shah Pahlavi, May you Rest in Peace!!!

Hakeem jon

with all due respect Titanium (metal) is not mined, but processed. Perhaps you mean Titanium ore, which of course is mined and must go through a trecherous process whic involes the making of titanium tetrachlroide and then through a separate process to titanium metal.

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IRAN FIRST

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Amen Shushtari. Amen

The unknown and where we must all show our love of country is can we replace it right. We have all the tools and talent.

the silver lining here....

is that the mullahs, despite their desperate efforts to brainwash the younger generation, are widely hated by the youth of iran....

the same youth who has know idea what a beautiful country iran was prior to the fiasco of '79....or the peace and security which iranians enjoyed those days....

this the achilles heal of the akhoonds- the fact, that despite their continuous oppression, the next generation of iranians are even more patriotic and secular than their parents who betrayed their homeland!

MAKE NO MISTAKE, IRAN WILL BE FREE SOON, AND THE AKHOONDS WILL BE GIVEN A ONE WAY TICKET TO HELL! 

Hakeem, not sure if this is related to a very focused subject

at hand in my blog. Perhaps you should post it as a blog to get responses to many items and specific perspective you bring up.

The Stories of Oil & Gas

Ba Salam.

Thanks for posting the video which caused a general discussion.

As this platefom (IC) is an apportunity for self expression and learning. Dialogues should be Constructive, Authentic(with facts & figures, this video was really nice, ) and Conclusive with a bit Fun to make conversations pleasant.

We all LOVE IRAN and this is enough to motivate us for furhter derive.

First of all, the late Shah of Iran was an Staunch Patriot, no doubt. He tried his best to make Iran a world class country competing with the West. I highly respect him. I am NOT a monarchist. Like all humans he had achievments and failures.

Regarding natural resources of a country, I doubt the possessor would always be the real owner. Iran is rich in oil. But Iran is also rich in natural gas, Aluminum, Iron, Copper, Titanium, Uranium, Gold and a lot more. This does not mean at all that Iranians are the sole owners of those. Oil is really a volatile and sensitive issue. This is Energy (the cheapest form so far) plus hundreds of other precious derivatives.

When in 1908 oil was found in Masjed Soleiman and Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC) was founded to explore it, Iranians barely knew what oil was, including Iran's Shah himself. Earlier in 1901 William Knox D'Arcy, a London millionaire got exclusive rights to explore oil for 60 years in lieu of 20,000 Pound Sterling, from Mozzafar-al-Din Shah Qajar.

Until 1953, Britain was the sole owner of the Iranian oil. After 1953, Americans came into the deal as well. Iran was as helpless as 1901 to be able to make any concession to 1953 treaty. With this Treaty Shah displaces an elected and democratic government of Dr. Mossadegh with the Help of EVIL & SICK nations of The United States of America and the Great Britain!!!

USA and UK are only bad for IRI and not for bringing about Shah. Is that true?

It was as LATE as October 26, 1973 Arab-Israel War and QUITE inadvertently that the rest of the world came to know about importance of oil. In fact prices jumped up 4 folds. Shah wanted to sell the oil on his own TERMS. He could Not. The West wanted its own TERMS and they DID it.

There is a difference between wanting & wishing and be able to achieve it. Islamic Revolution of Iran in 1979 proved  for the 3rd time that Iran was as helpless as she was  in 1901 and 1953, to dictate her TERMS.

Look at how Shah was furious and uttered with contempt and hatred that the BUYERS had to QUEUE to get their oil ( just like vassal states of Achaemanid used to QUEUE to offer their tributes and gifts to Shahanshah Dariush Avval). Well, it was a personal remark by Shah and he had full advantage of freedom of expression. BUT  he FORGOT that his father, Reza Shah Kabir had became King due to the WICKED & BAD Englishmen(Engliseeha aslan khaylee badan). Again, unfortunately, he FORGOT that he himself was placed by EVIL & SICK Englishmen plus American men.

BUT the English and the Americans did NOT. He who can place anybody can easily replace anybody else!!!!!!!! 

The BEAUTY of Politics involved in the formation of the Islamic Republic of Iran in 1979 was so intrinsic that ALL the devastation was done by the Iranians themselves.

Even as of today, 2010, Iran despite 2nd to Saudi Arabia in oil reserves, imports 40% of its Petrol from abroad!!!

Once talking to Commercial Manager of Sepahan Oil Company in their Tehran office, he revealed that 2 Amercian Enginners, at the request of the refinery, on their visit to the refinery were surprised to see the Catalysts used in the refinery were intact still after 20 years of continuous service. There are hundreds if not thousands of Mechanical, Electrical, Electronical, Chemical, Digital etc. etc. components used in a Refinery most of them cannot be produced by the Iranians even today.

In 1973, Shah was talking of increaasing oil production from 4 million bpd to 8 million bpd.

In 2010, Iran is producing 3.7 million bpd.

Saudi Arabian oil production is 12.5 million bpd, as of today.

Some Gaseous ----- The Turkmenistan - China natural gas pipeline was officially inagurated on 12 December 2009. It passes through Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan to reach China. It is 1833Km (1139 miles) long and pumps 40 billion cubic meter per day.

Iran has been unable to develop South Pars Gas field which is a common gas field with Qatar and 2nd to Russian gas reserves,  due to lack of liquidity, lack of technical expertise, lack of equipments and political instability, while Qatar is 11 years ahead of Iran, other than gaas even exporting LNG.

Iran has failed so far to export gas to Turkey (pipeline already laid, Turkey is NOT willing to buy) instead Iran imports gas from Turkmenistan!

Apart from all the Oil & Gas stories, the Islamic Revolution of Iran in 1979, subsequent mass killings of iranian elites, exodus of Shah o Mellat to 4 corners of the world, sad demie of Shah in exile in Egypt, fierce internal bloodshed amongst Iranian rival factions, 8 year Iran-Iraq War with $ 3000 billion Net Loss for Iran, over 1 million dead and a couple more handicapped and inabled, vast destruction & devastation, bankrupt economy, unemployment, international isolation and many many more were just BONUSES from the United States of America and the Great Britain. That is why i always stress that Politics is a very delicate and specialized field.

I shall be more than grateful, if anybody could advise me of Major Iranian Achievements since 1797, the year when the capable & competent army chief, statesman, scholar and founder king of Qajar Dynasty of Iran, Agha mohammad Khan Qajar was assasinated.

Last but not least, a couple of months back in the Daily Arab News, I read a news that Saudi Arabia, in order to cope with its agricultural needs needed to hire cultivation lands in Pakistan. The US opposed the view and had asked Saudi Arabia to find lands in Mauritania, Somalia and 3 other African countries, i don't remember their names.

You see, people are NOT allowed to cultivate agri-products on thier desired lands and people talk about Oil, Gas, Nahjul Balaghe and Imam e Zaman. 

The British are one sick evil former empire

Dear friends specially Hovakhashatare: everything you are saying is true. I know it as a fact that British were deeply  involved in bringing Khomeini to power.  You are also right that Iran would be Paradise by now if Shah remind in power. We all know how BBC was then and is now protecting the IRR. Shushtari jan: I hope you are right; Iran does recover from IRR this year. If we do it is despite Britain's best efforts. In any event,  we may not change the past. But we can learn a few things:

• Never trust foreign powers or media specially the Europeans and among them specially the British. They are the most malignant and anti-Iranian of all nations.
• Never trust the BBC. I would go as far as to kick them out of Iran post IRR. Never let them back. The BBC bastards came up with "The Gulf" garbage.
• Do not look to foreign nations for help. We must solve our own problems.

The man is honest

He is saying to the international oil oligarchy that he wants a fare price for oil and complete control of Iranian oil industry from production to distribution once the contract is up (1979) . well he challanged mighty powerfull people out there and they unlished the darkest hours for iran. 30+ years of nightmare.......................

one day (hopefully) we will be able to find out how much oil IRR sold (gave away) and where all the money went to..............onecan only hope.

MK, cheap talk started by tone & manner you pose your question

but I will oblige you. The alternative is a temporary government (in formation) from various groups to manage day to day affairs and maintain general calm while the ground work for referenda, election process & then elections takes place based on consensus. may the best man win. If you want me to name an individual, it is unknown at this point, but important is not that person. Impostant is the platform & constitutional framework within which that group S/he represents, operates, as approved via referendum by the Iranian nation. This is not about who, as your question suggests in type of thinking and mindset, but the path we choose.

dear Atessa, there are two distinct considerations

one is Shah and what he should/should not have done which I did not cover except as a lateral point. Second is the broader of context which was a foreign conspiracy against Iran that leveraged Shah's internal missteps for their purposes.

Backed by a mighty military and an increasingly flowing coffers, by 1973 Shah had started to show independence from former masters. However, he overread and overplayed his hand and underestimated the influence of oil companies, or the Green belt strategy (or unaware of it?) . It is a broad subject for coveing in a line or two but there are many good books and resources available on this. Partly, it was due to his natural character flaws (fairly well documented in All of The Shah's Men, S. Kinzer) one of which was partial megalomania. The other was formation of special but competing interests giving Shah bad input & advice, and penetration by Israeli & American spy/military operatives into Iranian security & Military.

However, we Iranians, as a people became victims of our own unawareness of history, emotional nature and few other things that enabled enemies of Iran, foreign & domestic, to literally watch us walk into their trap.

Why did he need to cry it out????

I am utterly touched by this posting and very sad! This exposes many lies stated against the Shah. So 1979 contracts were suppose to End and they did everything they could to End him before!!!  But for goodness sake...Why did he need to alert the whole world about it! He could do it …work towards it ...Without warning them!!  May you Rest in Peace Man.

Aghaaye Hovakh?

Since you advocate regime change in your last paragraph, who is your alternative?  No slogans and cheap talk please.

آقای فانتوم، شما چکار داری که ما بنزین داریم یا نه

شما آمدی که حرفی‌ که میخواهی‌ بزنی‌ و زدی. این حرفهای شما چه ربطی‌ به بلاگ من دارد. اصلا وقت صرف کردی که بخوانی و بفهمی؟ مجبور نیستی‌ هر وقت اسم شاه را میبینی بر حسب عادت شمشیرت را از غلاف بیرون بکشی. همانطور که در جملهٔ اول بلاگ نوشتم منظور صحبت در باره شاه نبود چون میدانیم که بسیاری مثل شما با آوردن این اسم خون از مغزتان یا قطع میشود یا جریانش زیادتر میشود.  نکته این بلاگ شاه نیست. دوباره بخوان

Dear Shushtari & divaneh, there is no question we were duped

however, it is important to shut those who continue this farse about khomeini & islamic thuggery as though it has any legitimacy whatsoever. IRR has been one of the most profitable enterprises ever for foreign forces. There are dozens of documents, documentaries and books that readily reveal this conspiracy against Iran and still there are those who want to put this in the context of Islam. even though islam was the the very tool the foreigners used against us.

Your account divaneh is similar to dozens from my own friends and family, as well as what I saw unravel here among student organizations and American TV and BBC. We should do our utmost to spread these facts at this critical time. As you know the islamist (khatami/Mousavi/Kahroubi/A.Ganji...versions) are still at it.

چقدر خوب که جنابعالی هنوز تشریف دارین

با احترام به خواست شما برای پرهیز از سخنان شاه ستیزانه، اجازه
بدهید فقط، به اختصار کامل و بر مصداق عاقل را یک اشاره بس است،  به این
نکته اشاره کنم که این فرمایشات ملوکانه در زمان ریاست جمهوری نیکسون و
خریدهای سرسام آور نظامی معظم له، بدون احتیاج به تصویب کنگره آمریکا،
صورت گرفته است. اطمینان خاطر خطیر همایونی از رضایت آمریکا ئی‌‌ها از
نحوه عمل ذات اقدسشان به حدی بود  که معظم له‌ اساساً اروپا را از
معادلات سیاسی خود حذف فرموده، به آنان فقط به چشم مشتی مشتری زنبیل به
دست، عنایت میفرمودند.

تا اینجا که به اسب شاه یابو نگفته ام؛ قبل از رفع زحمت عرض کنم،اگر
خانواده پهلوی دارای پایگاه ملی‌ و مردمی بود، آمریکا و اروپا و گوادلوپ و
چه میدونم جادو جنبل کلفت زاده‌های قاجار که سهله، همون حضرت عباسی که به
قول خودش یه دفعه قبلاً نجاتش داده بود، هم نمیتونس حال و روز خانواده
پهلوی، آقایی مثل شما، و رعیّتی مثل منو، اینجور پریشون کنه. یعنی‌
میخواهید بفرمائید توی این مدت سی‌ ساله ما معطل همین ویدئو بوده ایم...

The Pahlavis, all mullahs, and all public figures associated with the Green Movement  must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth/income.

Eye Opener

Thanks for posting Hovakh. I still remember the writings on the wall at the time of last revolution "Be bbc goush konid - Imam Khomeini", and that was where every speech of the devil was relayed to people.

perfect analysis.....

that you very much for speaking the TRUTH.....

THE MULLAHS, AKHOONDS, BACHE AKHOONDS, AND THEIR FELESTINI ASSASSINS ARE NOTHING BUT THE TOOLS OF THE BRITS, CARTER, AND FRANCE TO TAKE IRAN BACK TO THE STONE AGE.....

IRAN WOULD HAVE BEE PARADISE NOW, HAD THEY LEFT US ALONE!!!

BUT ON A HAPPY NOTE, I THINK WE WILL BE THERE SOON! 

Fatollah, I noticed on several threads that the story of 1979

is still spoken as though khoemini had the brain or wherewithall to actually pull anything like this off without the very countries he rallied people against including Israel. It is important to expose that and terminate at least this type of misinformation. Glad you appreciate it.

Exposing his intent within the timeline of Oil contracts

to protect Iranian Oil revenues, almost guaranteed he will be gone by 1979, the year of contract renewals. Coincidentelly, several weapons delas with Brits and other europeans were also in play and latest information shows how khmeini had guaranteed at least the British contracts (likely French as well) in return for financial and political support to help him to power; which he got from both of those countries, among others. Timely post.

OKtaby

by the way

by the way, Shah was very well in touch with the realities of Iranian society, unfortunately time was not on his side. and we made poor choices.

Hovak

thanks for the post. 

I have said it many times

I have said it many times in the past, an experienced politician does not speak so frankly about foreign affairs in public.

It will definitley give ammunitions to those who are against us.

And that is why we had the so called revolution of 1979. 

He loved the country but was ill informed as to how and when to

speak his mind.

But god bless his soul.